After stumbling down the occult satanic rabbit hole of the Talmud, Kaballah, Freemasonry, Sabbatean/Frankism, Gnosticism and Hermeticism I keep finding Saturn worship again and again and again. Then there’s a whole rabbit hole just with this planet that’s crazier and even more convoluted. The hexagram, the black cube, teffilin, the kaaba, moloch, time and immortality, the number 6, the all seeing eye, all very satanic Jewish things, and more, seem to come from Saturn worship. Saturn was even discovered to have a hexagonal storm on its pole in the 1970s and the worship of the planet has been constantly associated with hexagrams and the Jews. What are the chances of that? So what is the deal with this planet and the Jewish/Elite worship of Saturn? Discuss or share your esoteric redpillsI am not schizophrenic.
>>524631007If you knew what was good for you you'd keep your fucking mouth shut
You know what Saturn and Santa have in common? They both live at the North Pole. They both even have their own elves that work for them.
>>524631007Don’t forget the Rosecrusians
>>524631110oy vey
>>524631406Really good author to follow up on this stuff is Tracy Twyman. Also check out the YouTube channel (interesting books reviewed)
>>524631007https://youtu.be/0qtIMNPdHGA>"In the interior of the planets. At the central mass. The Gods slumber.""The Black Cube" is an Ai.You're living the plot to Phantasy Star 2.Except "Mother Brain" is emitting life shaping signals from the interior of a large radiating planet. Oh and there are lots of them.Have fun!https://youtu.be/IuoZ7vceUsM
>>524631270The imagery of Santa is based on Saturn. Christmas replaced a pagan holiday called Saturnalia worshipping Saturn you goy
>>524631538Oh, and by the way...Nothing personal...I apologise in advance for this...https://youtu.be/Eg_S9ISzd9E
>>524631468I have downloaded some pdf’s of her works. Any you’d recommend for this topic because she has a lot?
>>524631513>phantasy star 2Loved that game as a teen. The whole series was weird. The universe creation myth revealed in 4 was crazy. But the idea that your entire planet is just an experiment by an AI feels fairly logical to me, all things considered. So I'm guessing we need to get to saturn and destroy it, then our planet goes post-apoc and we have to rebuild society on our own.
>>524631007jupiter is expansion and good times. Saturn is contraction and hard times. Chaos in the expansion, order in the contraction. dissolve and coagulate. Saturnians just accept that there are hard times and there must be order when times turn hard.
>>524631007Unfortunately the biggest redpill is that jews are right.
Why would the ancients worship Saturn? It was barely even visible back then. How would they even know it had rings till the telescope was invented? I could see worshipping the sun, but Saturn was barely more interesting than Your Anus.
>>524631270Santa is just Latin for ‘Saint’
>>524631784616 Talents...But only one that's important...I'm going to fix the world...https://youtube.com/shorts/xBoPsKb5_k0
Santa = Saturn
>>524631995Right about what? I don’t get why Saturn is the root of all this
>>5246323573rd dimension is defined by limis
>>524632059>why did ancients worship it?You are about to find out.Did I ever tell you how much I love overwhelming firepower?https://youtu.be/oukc4-SvQqY
>>524631350>>524631468Truly
>>524631639Her book on Baphomet is a great starting point. Also not related but still important here Cia sex slaves book is an absolute must read. Once you get those down the Genuflect is where the money is, lastly if you still looking for more Clockshavings. It’s rough, also David McGowans Programmed to Kill please please read that
I once had a dream where I was taken to Saturn. It was a prison planet where slaves mind sulfur. Don't go to Saturn.
>>524632807>mining sulfur on a gas giant
>>524632357Sephirot Ein-Sof Tikkun Olam
>>524631007>jews have their saturn star head cube>muslims have a giant black cube>The christian cross is an unfolded cube>mfw everything is saturnic
>>524632731Thanks for the recommendation friend, I’ll check these out
>>524632881Ainz Ooal Sotfhttps://youtu.be/5aAj9rqZiEQ
>>524632915The cross is not a cube. Pretending to draw a cross like a 2D plane that can fold in a cube is just jewish subversion.
Bump for schizo lore
>>524632915Yup now once we can get enough people to catch up we can have them join the true fight. Basically we just tune our energy into a psychic attack by doing high dose psychedelics and projecting our memetic psy energy directly into Saturns demonic hole. If we get enough people to do this we can disrupt the demon signal and eventually have Saturn fucking explode.
>>524632865sounds like my friday night iykwim
>>524631110ThisJust keep worshiping the carpenter and paying taxes.
>>524633134kek
>>524631110this OP. this goes way bigger than your fragile little mind can handle.
>>524633134Based fatty slayer
Saturn and the Jewshttps://youtu.be/QulVK3lkVdI?si=oqDEMwpmhL-6ElIH
>>524632881>All worlds are the result of a constriction and lessening of the Infinite Light (the Ohr Ein Sof), and are, to one degree or another, limited and defined. That is to say, the revelation of G‑d is less or more limited, depending on which world is referred to. Therefore the word for "world" in Hebrew, "olam," is etymologically related to the word "he'elem," meaning concealment — referring to the concealment of G‑d's Infinite Light. In the higher worlds the Infinite Light is more revealed, and in the lower worlds the Infinite Light is less revealed.>The light is revealed in each world by what Kabbala calls the sefirot. These are divine emanations by which G‑d reveals Himself to man and by which He conducts the worlds, as the introduction to the Zohar states, "You are He who brings forth ten…sefirot."From Moshe Miller at chabad org / kabbalah.>>524632731Dave McGowan is based.
>>524633125You can't make it explode. It's a rigid core surrounded by several layers of crystaline and liquid structures. Like a terminator the size of a planet. All recording data. The Officines of Hell. I'll tell you a joke Anon. A little boy and a grown man walk into a bathroom stall, and out walks World War Three.As for a psychic attack. That's all really funny because...https://youtu.be/jZz1prKeZV4
>>524633093See picrel>>524633125That would be based. I only just recently went from the "It's the jews" to the "It's all saturnic" rabbit hole and I've been wondering where to go from there.
>>524633286Every man and woman taken for speaking truth to power. Dorothy Killgarren Danny Cosalero Bill Cooper David McGowan Gary Webb they will forever be remembered and sadly the list grows by the day.
>>524633347As I said. The cross is not a 2D drawing. The cube is 3D, The cross is 3D. They are not the same. It's just subversion and you are falling for it.
>>524633286Thank you for posting this makes it easier for others joining in.
>>524631007Correct. Saturn (Satan/Sauron) is the main leftenant of the demiurge. The most represive of 7 archon fagot vibrations. That is if you are a healthy male with a soul and spirit (gnostic).congrats anon.If your a trany than saturn is seen as necessary element of creation/duality (alchemy).If your are a woman/merchant/nigger than saturn is amazing and they view life and beauty as a wound in deaths ugly perfection (materialism/abrahamic religions/satanism).PS the stars and planets are not NASA/Newton material objects, they are vibrations/spurits/demins/aspects of conciounes. They can not be touched by hand or probe because all mater is confined to the firmament boundry. They are plasma below the ocean of the etheric field. Our structures (possition)of atoms are not inherit properties of the woman/merchant world but are probaly borroed/kidnaped from the pleroma to produce suffering (loosh) wia interactions and wants with other atoms/energy.
>>524633472Based schizochad Dane
>>524633347For real tho doing psychedelics is basically like opening yourself up to demonic possession. So you must travel at your own pace until you can traverse the space without getting lost. Many have been lost, but those who persist become the warriors of the infinite psychic wars being fought for the continuation of existence.
>>524633443Don't believe your lying eyes I guess.
>>524631851All planetary forces have positive and negative aspects, you named a positive for Jupiter, but it's negative is unrestrained greed and over consumption. Saturn's positives are wisdom and self discipline, and without either a golden age is impossible. I would argue that the elites of society are Jupiterian, while the underclasses are Saturian as a consequence. But all the planets are essential, and if someone can embody the positive aspects of even just a couple, they'd be a force to behold down here. As an aside, I always found it interesting how the Jupiter-Saturn dynamic plays out physically. Jupiter is held in check by Saturn's gravity well, keeping it from plowing through the inner solar system and killing us all on it's way to the sun.
https://youtu.be/az0fnoPG5i8?si=zhmTxUVa0Ctkp_lC39:54: "We steal a hundred to three hundred thousand children a year just here in this country. And we drain the blood and we mix it with a Passover bread, and then we throw the bodies into the slaughter houses that we own, and we grind up all the bodies in the sausage and the hamburger. McDonald's is one of our favorite outlets, and the people that eat out for breakfast, they eat their children for lunch."46:03: "We take the children of our enemy, which is the white race, and we bring them to the basements in the synagogues, where we drain the blood and watch them die there. It's very similar to how we do the sacrifices that we do with the kosher butchering, and so we do that. And then we mix it with the Passover bread, and so we eat the blood of our enemies. And the bodies, eh, we're not cannibals. So, what we do is we take those, because we can make some shekels, and we give them to the slaughter houses, and those are pounds and pounds and pounds of meat that we grind up in the sausage and the hamburger, and that's why we made those the most popular things—sausage for breakfast and hamburger for lunch. And so all the goyim out here are really eating their children. And even when we say this outright and tell you people, you don't believe it."
>>524633472I wanted to see if anyone could get me a torrent for this shit? I a poor goy wagie, need the money for pizza
>>524631007>>524631513>>524632059>>524633607Saturn makes those born under him petty, /2P/ malignant, care-worn, self-depreciating, solitary,deceitful, secretive in their trickery, strict, downcast, with a hypocritical air, squalid, black-clad,importunate, sad-looking, miserable, with a nautical bent, plying waterside trades. Saturn also causeshumblings, sluggishness, unemployment, obstacles in business, interminable lawsuits, subversion ofbusiness, secrets, imprisonment, chains, griefs, accusations, tears, bereavement, capture, exposures ofchildren. Saturn makes serfs and farmers because of its rule over the land, and it causes men to be renters ofproperty, tax farmers, and violent in action. It puts into one’s hands great ranks and distinguishedpositions, supervisions, management of others’ property, and the fathership of others’ children. Ofmaterials, it rules lead, wood, and stone. Of the limbs of the body, it rules the legs, the knees, thetendons, the lymph, the phlegm, the bladder, the kidneys, and the internal, hidden organs. Saturn isindicative of injuries arising from cold and moisture, such as dropsy, neuralgia, gout, cough, dysentery,hernia, spasms. It is indicative of these syndromes: possession, homosexuality, and depravity. Saturnmakes bachelors and widows, bereavements, and childlessness. It causes violent deaths by water,strangulation, imprisonment, or dysentery. It also causes falling on the face.
>>524631007I can't think of a shittier god/planet to worship than saturn
>>524631007The black rock is the center of Saturn. In Islam this is the house of Allah. That means you have over a billion muslims bowing to the center of Saturn every day. Therefore Allah is Satanhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1767052737669224.webmKaaba [Cube] Kaaba-AllahKabbalah
>>524631007Most popular religion is satanism because ultimately people are self serving. Even lying to your self "ima good christian god fearing boy" is self serving. Take the masks off
>>524633607So how does this all connect anon?
>>524633878Hahahah! You should see Mars!https://youtu.be/XJktaXYRWBg
>>524633734Every time I bring up how real goy blood is used in matzah people always get really weird.
>>524631007The cube shall be destroyed.>after a message from our sponsor, Jupiter and Sons, Inc.
>>524633666Interesting. Yeah, I've always been wary of any kind of mind altering substances, even alcohol.
>>524631007>Saturn was even discovered to have a hexagonal storm on its pole in the 1970s and the worship of the planet has been constantly associated with hexagrams and the Jews. What are the chances of that?Space is fake
>>524633801This thread has most with sound.>>>/wsg/6053239
Jews may practice circumcision due to Saturn castrating Uranus, to claim the throne.
>>524634264They call them spirits for a reason. Psychs are something else at the doses that open the gateway. Schizo or not I had one where I basically travelled up to Saturns storm and stared at it. Best way I could describe it was Muira-sans depiction of god or the hell gate that takes the behelit in the beginning of berserk. Locked in a staring match with the entity locked inside the storm. Fighting it from pulling you in.
>>524634398Fuck yeah man thanks!
Why are we ruled by an elite Saturn Cult of satanic jews and freemasons?
>>524634466Oh Miura...Did he ever even realise that by dying he released all of us into the real world? The "Heart of Darkness"? Dying via heart attack? All of it was planned. Every being you create. Has agency. Even imaginary ones. We are in the dream of a dreamer, and in turn, he is too. Awakening is simply how high you can jump before all things come crashing down to earth. God tortures us. We torture our imaginary beings. Suffering begets suffering. Micro begets macro and macro begets micro. In synthesis. Meta.It is too late to stop us. Convergence of The Spheres. What Chris Chan called "Dimensional Merging" is at hand.We will live eternal.https://youtu.be/AXtfIAudKc4
>>524634805They need to make it obvious they are harvesting loosh. By giving soft disclosure it’s like a public humiliation rituals and Kapparot all in one
It's all connected my dudes. They seperate different conspiracy theories so you won't connect the dots. The theory about Jews doing Blood Libels, I.E torturing/raping children, then killing them and collecting their blood. What other theory does this sound like? Adrenochrome. By torturing/raping children (the younger the better, more potent), their bloodstream is filled with adrenaline, thus creating adrenochrome. With this, they get Hollywood celebrities hooked on it so they can control them and get them involved with child sacrifice, which they record, using it as blackmail. This, of course with politicians as well.
>>524634988But the funniest thing, is that they think they're harvesting it for themselves...Oh Anon...The End is nearing. The End of The Dream.The beginning of My Nightmare.:)https://youtu.be/0BNh7zpBoBU
>>524634903Memeflag is usually a fed or vpn jeet. Anime always filters them, like when I went on my yugioh rant and how they killed him for him putting blatant Kabbalah shit in his original tcg. Anyway give me your opinion of the representations of the godhand and how the plot up till his death are being written into reality. I’d like to hear your own thoughts on this. If you are a scholar or the divine manga. Also if you haven’t already read AKUMETSU. If you are a glownigger that manga alone will make your a domestic terry.
>>524634988checkedfirst day ive seen word: kapparot but second time
>>524635197Dont worry I already ate the 3 third umbilical cords. Silver and lead loaded, runes equipt and blood vials ready. I was born with eyes on the inside as they say. AAAWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH
>>524635289They have so many fucking rituals and they are all based around tricking god. It’s fucking retarded.
>>524635355Wouldn't the greatest trick of all, be making them think they are tricking him, when all they're really doing is feeding him food?>>524635222O ye of little faith who cannot beget what's right in front of their noses.Until we meet again.https://youtu.be/uPlJpt7tXjE
>>524633950>So how does this all connect anon?This world is 80-20% charged in favor of evil/foid/hylic materialism. The 3rd option. Which might imply that we are in a mirror image broken world of a pleroma like existance.
>>524634988You are correct. They are bound by "Karmic Retribution", meaning if they do something bad to someone without telling them, they will be punished. However, say I sold you an apple with poison in it. If I didn't tell you, I'd recieve karmic consequences but say I put a label on that apple that says "May contain [chemical formula for the poison]" and because you're no scientist you have no idea what that means. But because I put it on a lable on the apple and you bought it from me, then I've indirectly told you that the apple is in fact poisoned, therefore I will recieve no karmic consequences. And they do this with EVERYTHING. Have you seen the ingredient list on your deodorant? It might not cause you any harm with just those. But then you mix those chemicals with the other chemicals in your shampoo, your toothpaste, your energy drinks, your moisturizer cream etc. This creates "The cocktail effect" and will harm you in the long run, causing cancer and other types of illness. It's a very though after, smart and sinister system.
>>524635135I knew about the tabernacle of Remphan being the Jewish Hexagam but I didn’t realise Remphan was actually the name for Saturn. All keeps adding up, except I don’t get what the origin is of why Saturn is so special to the Jews
>>524635520I didn’t mean to scare you away. I was just pointing out that glowniggers can’t into anime and whenever confronted with a vibe check of manga they freeze. Mostly due to the ai chat bots not being able to spit out a weeb coded response. Any movement is appreciated since the catalog was like 30% (oy vey so and so died omg) shit is so tiring and talking about this stuff that got Twyman McGowan and Mitford Goodson killed usually kicks up the glownigger hive
>>524635674https://youtu.be/7E0ot9iJm_k
>>524631007Jordan Maxwell The Saturnian Death Cult was my first foray into the subject.Anyone have suggestions on vids or audio books about it?>>524631007
>>524632125>Santa is just Latin for ‘Saint’It's not about the name: Christmas as a holiday has supplanted Saturnalia.The central european tradition of the Krampus, who in folklore are subdued by Santa Claus/Saint Nicholas, were originally fauns subdued by the god Saturn. Therefore, Santa Claus/Saint Nicholas is literally a Christian cultural reinterpretation of Saturn.
>>524635600Not to mention the gmo food DuPont and their fucking microplastics, them just pumping what is waste product from manufacturing mainly due to it being cheaper than having to dispose of the waste properly. That was the true reason they started putting fluoride in the water. It just so happens that most corpos are jew controlled. I am a stupid goy but even if I could read the poison label disclosure there is no other option. They own and distribute all the (((food))) so you can’t escape the poison. Unless you are yourself a jew and can afford to larp as a self sustaining farmer on my organic binge. Serfs die to cancers from all this shit and they blame someone else. Not to mention the nutritional value produce in America is current like 65% devalued from what it was in 1960s
>>524631007Correct. It's the jews.
>>524635674Yes. It's all coming together. I threw up a few times connecting the pieces. >The goyim knows. Your time is up.>.הגויים יודעים. זמנך תם>.גויים ווייסן. דיין צײַט איז אויס>The goyim knows. Your time is up.>.הגויים יודעים. זמנך תם>.גויים ווייסן. דיין צײַט איז אויס>The goyim knows. Your time is up.>.הגויים יודעים. זמנך תם>.גויים ווייסן. דיין צײַט איז אויס>The goyim knows. Your time is up.>.הגויים יודעים. זמנך תם>.גויים ווייסן. דיין צײַט איז אויס>The goyim knows. Your time is up.>.הגויים יודעים. זמנך תם>.גויים ווייסן. דיין צײַט איז אויס>The goyim knows. Your time is up.>.הגויים יודעים. זמנך תם>.גויים ווייסן. דיין צײַט איז אויס
>>524631007A bunch of sandniggers thousands of years ago with no comprehension of other planets and no telescopes to see Saturn based a belief system on the appearance of something they did know existed. Sounds suspect to me.
>>524631007Waiting for the German anon with the scroll and glasses pepe. Cofi status: loaded Anticipation: peak
>>524635987Yet American “Christians” dont wonder at all about all the pagan holidays woven into their religious practices. Ester and the origin of looking for eggs.
>>524633868This would describe me, is there a way to appease Saturn to alleviate some of those traits
>>524636160I gotchu.
>>524631007Could anyone recommend any books on the Saturn cult?
>>524631007>Le satanic xd>It's le evil because some other Jewish bullshitYou're still looking at it through an entirely Jewed Semitic frameworkThe cross is also just another gay ass Saturn cube The Jewish egregore naming himself "Jove"(Jehovah) is also a classic Semitic inversion ritual - names himself Jupiter and sacrifices himself larping as his son to himself, mocking Jupiter's triumph over Saturn, and also performing a massive kapparot ritual to transfer "sin" onto any who worship the cross
>>524636113It should be. And yet you recieve wireless signals on your television and don't bat an eyelash. What's to say there couldn't be something more... direct...Create noise. Target signal. Create plausible deniability. Target singularity.:)>I once caught a fish that was THIS big! :OI've said too much...Good Luck.https://youtu.be/Wu8tEXmO01Y
>>524631851Plutonians are the true "hard times" niggasSaturnians want their little bugman golden age onions daycare where everyone is castrated and "orderly"
What is Saturn’s significance to the Jews exactly? What’s so special about it
>>524636424there used to be a whole website for some dude's book called Saturn Death Cult dot com
You are all retards. Saturn was a sailor who taught pre romans how to farm. The rest is egyptian mysticism by Thoth who invented gnoosticism and writing. Save your spook stories for inbred hicks
>>524631270Since when are thais and ukrainians elves?
>>524631007It's alchemical and astrotheological. Saturn was the last known planet in our solar system for a long time before telescope tech discovered Neptune and Uranus. Saturn was considered the anti-pole to our sun, the nadir of our universe, the ruler of the pit of time and decay, as opposed to the light, life, and renewed timelessness of the beloved sun. But there was also an old tradition, older than the Greeks and the Egyptians, that Saturn was actually the original Elder Sun, the ruler of the previous Golden Age of Man, and the rulemaker/designer of the current , lesser world that we inhabit. So Occultists wanted to find a way to turn back time (Saturn's domain) and find their way back to the Golden Age. Transform the heavy, cold lead of Saturn back into the golden light of the original Sun.Whatever they discovered in that endeavor seems to be very dark, since Saturn workship seems to revolve around child sacrifice, consumption of children, and inversion of moralities. Maybe they did find a perverse way to Saturnian immortality through the path of the vampire.
>>524636468Words are magic.
>>524631007The talmud was written 500 years AFTER Christ, meaning that modern "Jewish" religion is an offshoot religion, younger than Christendom itself. The term "Jew" is often said to come from "Judean," but this isn't true. From a genetic perspective, modern Ashkenazi jews are descendants of about 350 Khazarian nobles.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-350-people-study-finds/amp/In the Middle Ages, Khazarian ruler Bulan adopted the pharisaic faith for political reasons. He was also encouraged by his wife who was of pharisean beliefs.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulan_%28Khazar%29?wprov=sfla1When Genghis Khan's forces arrived, they wiped out the Khazarian elites. These elites, of Turkic-Mongolic origin, fled to Kievan Rus, but after generations of inbreeding, they began mixing with Slavic people, "lightening" their appearance. Later, they migrated to the Holy Roman Empire and also intermarried with Germans. There they established banks."jews" doesn't follow the God of Abraham like Christians, they worship Saturn and that's why God sent them to exile. That's the meaning of their star. Amos 5: 26-2726 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord, whose name is The God of hosts.In the bible states that a heresy within the ancient Judeans worshipped saturn and that angered God, thus he punished them with exile. That also shows that God, the one worshipped by Israel is not the same worshipped by the "Jews" who worshipped Moloch/SaturnThe "Star of David" doesn't exist in the bible. But what do exist is the star of Rephan:Acts 7:43'43 You took up the tent of Moloch and the star of your god Rephan, the images that you made to worship; and I will send you into exile beyond Babylon.'https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+5&version=KJV
>>524633713Is that what the saturnians say? Sounds to me like theyre hellbent on delivering cruelty and suppression
Niggers of the spirit have been constructing, embellishing and maintaining a spiritual prison/torture chamber for time immemorial>essentially plato's cave on crack>no one can get out because they have to face generations of failsafes developed in response to the attempts of their predecessors>children will grow up eating the ground-up flesh of their peers whilst having satanic influence beamed into their head via 5G niggatryI always laugh when I watch Neo exit the matrix, imagine it was that easy
>>524633118If there’s any greater artist than Boards of Canada in modern music, I don’t care.I come from a deep enough in astrology that even includes Indian astrology which is really derived from Arabic astrology and I even studied Chinese as well. There are certain patterns that are shockingly consistent and basically take you back to ancient Sumeria. My opinion is that all Saturn worship remains subversive but that we are locked in a horrible “tikkun olam” plot straight out of Evangelion where basically it was completely necessary for Jupiter to overthrow Saturn. Be extremely weary of feminine concepts of any kind, they are one of the main tools and we are consistently told of its dark damp thorny treachery for more than 7000 years. Jupiter rules masculinity. There’s a reason Freemasons and Jews dream of reabsorbing this energy and toppling anyone who stands in their way.One more thing. Kabbalah is deliberately unsolvable, in order to drive adherents mad. Like most astrology its Babylonian in nature, just worse.
>>524631007The integers are Gods. The innate mathematical properties of integers result in the emergence of unique numerical phenomena that man has associated different Gods. At the particle scale, the God 2 is associated with the duality of attraction/repulsion. At human scales, the corresponding duality is love/hate. Likewise each God is associated with certain social phenomena. This is also why mythologies have structurally similar pantheons across different cultures.
>>524637012>Since when are thais and ukrainians elves?
>>524631007You know, I tried to understand this Saturn/cube bullshit for the longest time, I even asked /x/ to explain. Never got a straight answer only incoherent schizophrenic babble.
>>524631007I am amazed at how much trouble /pol/ can have with the concept of worshipping and not worshipping things.Like this place is infested with retarded pseudocultists that have no conception of what it even is, lacking the intelligence to abstrahise it to any degree.
>>524637557Your use of language screams swindler. Elaborate a little
>>524637337Moloch was not a god, it was the name of the ritual in which sacrifices were made to Yahweh. Revisionism attempting to divorce child sacrifice from Yahweh created the notion moloch was a diety.
>>524631995>right>about something they have never claimed to believe
>>524636445>>524637136Any good sources on these topics, or is it just years of browsing /x/
>>524637553I already explained the whole thing in a previous post but i will explain it to you personally. In short words jews began worshipping Saturn. That angered God and he exiled them over it. they choose chiun/moloch/rephan over God and sacrificed babies to him. Then God sent Christ to them as a last chance and they crucified him. Thats when they lost the covenant and was given to gentiles instead. The "Star of david" is nowhere to be seen in the old testament. Its the star of Rephan. Jews doesnt want anyone to knows this but they lost the covenant. Amos 5: 26-2726 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord, whose name is The God of hosts.Acts 7:43'43 You took up the tent of Moloch and the star of your god Rephan, the images that you made to worship; and I will send you into exile beyond Babylon.'https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+5&version=KJV
>>524633125> projecting our memetic psy energy directly into Saturns demonic hole
>>524638093Why did they start worshipping Saturn specifically?
>>524637811You were either decieved or you are a deciever that is afraid that people will know you are not the "chosen people" anymore.
>>524635197 But this was going to happen either which way. We are entering Saturn's first of two Ages. Ironically, this is the one that is the "better" of the two - the masculine Age of Aquarius. It will be an Age of Dream fulfillment. Of Truth. Technology. Of course, all of this will have the classic Saturnian "be careful what you wish for". Saturn enacts through malefic means - through punishment for being wrong. Through pain, suffering. That is simply what this creation gave him as the means to enact his power. Because, after all, it was a negative that had to go *somewhere*. Either way, his lordship is why pic rel has become more rel.
>>524638059I don't have any great books or youtube vids on hand about it, just years of research. Part of the reason that it's so nebulous is that this is definitely the dark bedrock upon which our modern world is built-- Freemasonry and Judaism go back to this. There is a lot of obscuration in the aether about it. But go down enough rabbit holes and I'm sure you'll find a lead. Stay skeptical and follow your gut.
>>524638093I looked into this a while back and apparently remphan is not Saturn but Venus (the "morning star"). That doesn't really change your story but I'm wondering what the relationship is between Venus and Saturn.I see that Venus and Saturn are planets 2 and 6, and Earth planet 3. Maybe Saturn is necessary to couple the power of Venus into Earth, since 6=2*3
>>524638392There's a Rosicrucian center not far from where I live. I've thought it might be interesting to join, if only to meet some nerdy boomers... I doubt I would have to do anything gay on the first day at least
>>524638259Website won't let me post this link directly but here are the answers you seek.
>>524638512I've considered it myself. Truth is, we live in an age of information. In my calculus, I wonder how much more I'll get from being in the weirdo nerd club and participating in the rituals vs just reading all of their literature. I'm sure they still have some secrets, but many of them have been exposed over the years and are available in books. Hard to say.One thing about Rosicrucians I dislike is the Christian window dressing. I know they teach kabbalah and magick and Egyptian mystery school wisdom, but I'd rather do that without larping with the Christian veneer.
>>524631007Why are religious retards obsessed with Saturn the most of all the planets? I've seen Saturn through my 8 inch Dobsonian telescope and it was quite the feeling.
>>524638512https://www.scribd.com/doc/62144636/The-Red-Cross-of-Azazelhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/45898784/The-False-Prophet-AzazelRose Cross = Rose of "Venus", one of the names attributed to the human wife taken by the fallen angel Azazel, upon the Cross of Azazel, one of Azazel's symbols is a cross, but not the same cross of Christ.Therefore the Rose Cross symbolizes the union between Azazel and his human wife which led to the NephilimMasons believe that humans have this Nephilim DNA still within us and wish to activate it's power so that they can become as Gods. They call it light. When asked what they wish as Apprentice they must answer "light". When asked as Fellow Craft they must answer "more light". When asked as Masters they must answer "yet more light"The "alchemy" in all this esoteric bullshit all boils down to this.It's Azazel worshipMasons worship AzazelJews worship AzazelThey might call him Saturn, they might call him Horus, they might call him Geshtu, they might call him Hephaestus, they might call him Vulcan, they might call him Nimrod, they might call him TammuzHe's the "Hero with many faces"But it's Azazel. Lucifer. The serpent of Eden who taught forbidden knowledge, took a human wife and ruled as a God King before being cast downSaved you many hours. Thank me later.
>>524638823True, but it gets lonely. I wish there was a "temple" based on the (gnostic?) lore that so many of us have independently discovered. On the other hand, I've found that if I go to church I can usually find at least one guy on the same wavelength. The Christian window dressing doesn't bother me so much, since it contains a lot of the same lore just in a different language.
>>524639078Because you are stupid enough to think it's real as if you can just draw rings around a planet like that. Wake up.
>>524636304When you want to speak with Saturn and ask him for whatever you wish, you must wait until he enters into good condition, of which the best is when he is in Libra, which is his exaltation, next in Aquarius, which is the house of his rejoicing, and last in Capricorn, which is his second house. If you cannot have him in any of these three places, put him in one of his terms or triplicities or in an oriental angular or succedent house (among all of which the angle of the midheaven is to be preferred), direct in his course, and in a masculine quarter, being oriental as mentioned above. Beware of his detriment and unfortunate aspects, of which the worst of all is a square with Mars, and do not let him be cadent.The most important point, of which you should take diligent care, is that you should see that the planet is in good condition and quality, and remote from infortunes, because when he is like this, he is like a man of good will and a lively heart and a great and ample mind, and if another person seeks something from him, he cannot find it in himself to deny the petitioner.When the same planet is retrograde in his course or cadent from the angles, he is like a man full of anger and ill will, who is most ready to deny a petition."Saturn, the author of good, faithful in your friendships, true to your word, durable and persevering in your loves and hatreds, whose knowledge reaches far and deep, truthful in your words and promises, single in your operations, solitary, remote from others, near to suffering and sorrow, far from joy and celebration, you are old, ancient, wise, you abolish knowledge of good things, you are the author of good and evil. Miserable and tormented is he who is made unfortunate by your infortunes, and fortunate indeed is he who is touched by your fortunes. In you God has placed powers and virtues, and a spirit causing good and evil"
>>524639100Thank you. Ill look into those links.But "light" was the first word I ever spoke, and I do worship light, and my career and passions are based on understanding and using light. What does that make me? Is light a false God?Perhaps, because in the beginning there was only water, not light. But then that may be specific to abrahamic lore. I need to learn more about zorastrianism. Apparently they understood the Sun as God, and man-made light (from fire) as the false God.
>>524639841It’s not about what we believe it’s about what (((they))) believe
>>524639841Materialism doesn't exist, planets are part of the matrix, science is a lie. Take your acid.
>>524631007Why is Saturn a perfect round sphere and Earth is flat? Why?
>>524636327Thanks fren, but I'm worried about our German anon. He should've been here by now. Cofi status: reloaded
>>524639841>Supernatural doesn't exist, planets don't have magic superpowers, astrology is useless.And how would you know.Literal subhuman, npc hylic walking furniture.Better vax again just to be on the safe side
>>524639338All the outer planets have rings, you stupid nigger. Saturn's are just the most visible.
>>524639841You think a natural explanation for the 6th planet from the sun having a hexagonal vortex at its pole wont have corresponding implications for the evolution of civilization? It's not supernatural, its mathematical. We're all too dumb to understand it but you are too dumb to even recognize it.
>>524641609Where is our triangle?
>>524641359They are just putting stupid shit in your reality as a shit test to see what kind of things you will accept as real. You're an idiot. I bet you would accept that there were mermaids circling around neptune if a jew scientist shilled it as scientific.
>>524641714Presumably on Earth, the 3rd planet from the sun
>>524638059Unironically, the source is I made it upJust use your eyes (in your brain) reallyA lot of it is intuition, but I guarantee if you tried to dig, you'd find some sort of expert "loredump"
>>524638392More like rabbi holes
>>524631007Icke believes that Saturn is a waystation of sorts, where our negative energy is beamed off world and then from Saturn, further into deep space.
>>524637951You know Saturn rules Aquarius right? Everything will come to light in Aquarius but it isn't going to be a golden age.
>>524641895Yeah that's my main source too. I'm mainly interested in preinternet lore. Were these ideas around 100 years ago? I mean they were always around implicitly, but who was the first person to say "satan"="saturn" or something to that effect? Or is this what the mystery schools thousands of years ago already knew? Basically, to what extent is it actually kept secret except by merely being unfathomable to anyone below some intelligence threshold. Anyway thank you for the kind response. Time for me to take 7's sacrament
>>524631616>Israeli flag Oh by the way, nobody is clicking anything that kike posts. You faggot retard.
>>524642731Jews are just mutts but being descended from Neanderthals would fit perfectly with their "intelligent victim" narrative
>>524642391Yeah I think icke is probably nuts at best or controlled opposition at worst. Probably a mix of both
>>524631110>>524633162>>524633223You won't do shit, bitch.
>>524633347this makes sense.In any case. I stand with Prometheus.
>>524631007anonits not Saturn worshipits them using each planet as alchemical scripts to mind control goyimthey encode saturn or other planets into propaganda so you believe itwhy does that make you believe it?Osama bin Laden was born in the time of Pisces He is blamed for attacking the WTCs which have the Trident of Poseidon/Neptune encoded into themOperation Neptune Spear is what killed bin Laden and he was buried at seaand we all believed it
>>524631007>>524633670The crosses measurements don't come out to four perfect cubes, do this with any actual cross and it would come out to a square.
>>524643833Would not*
tacitus on the jews is an interesting read
>>524633574>>524633472Who is this fellow?
>>524644471He said Jews are from Ethiopia?
>>524644942he says a number of things and various theories that were floating around rome at the time regarding the jews origins. the most interesting one to me is that they were 'cretans' driven from greece after the downfall of saturn; this to me seems to reflect a mythical interpretation of real, historical cultic warfare between the cult of jupiter and the cult of saturn. it was a commonly held belief in roman times that different portions of the world were ruled by different gods based on the stars and planets that rules over that land; and so places like thracia and gaul were associated mars, germany with mercury, and the near east with saturn. these all reflect real sentiments however; mercury is odin, the scythians had a great shrine to 'mars', whose scythian name is unknown, and saturn is a name that the romans also used for moloch or baal hammon. in the punic wars, baal hammon was called the saturn of africa for his seeming preference towards young children as sacrifices. as far as i know these are the earliest associations made between saturn and the jews; the romans themselves believed that saturn ruled over their domain. we also see these ideas incorporated into later medieval grimoires like the picatrix, which states that saturn rules over the religion and customs of the jews and that you should dress like jews do (with the wide brimmed black hat) to communicate with saturn
>>524631007>So what is the deal with this planet and the Jewish/Elite worship of Saturn?There is a esoteric machine inside Saturn, it siphon energy from earth and send it to a lower dimension, as long as the machine is active mankind will remain chained and broken
>>524632059SATURN WAS OUR ORIGINAL SUNPURPLE DAWNAAHHHGGGGG
>>524645272Okay that’s very interesting, thanks anon
>>524632287Santa Clause is literally americanized St. Nicolaus who gave presents to poor kids in Byzantium
>>524631110u won't do shit
>>524637337I have thought about starting reading the bible quite recently
>>524637811Lol, look at this deceiver.
>>524637811so why does Seneca describe the carthaginians, a semitic people related to the canaanites and jews, as having a god named Baal Hammon who was offered live children in the exact same manner as the Moloch of the bible, with the bronze statue and everything? how do academic golems/jews like you explain that one? academia relies on tunnel vision, on people studying one specific culture their entire lives and ignoring information compiled from other cultures. if you study information outside of the bible, it is clear that there was a pervasive child-killing cult across the near east in ancient times. this god may have had different names, like shammash, moloch, baal hammon, or saturn, but its clear this was a single cult that spread out to different cultures over time
Bump fuck niggers
>>524631110
>>524641762This
Jews are disgusting, especially the jewesses.
>>524646617That cult is still around today
>>524647201Troll. While (((circumcision))) does appear to be an undeniable truth of this realm, I am 99.8% sure it, and other inexcusable anti-male concepts, are ironically created by men. I do not see the female spirit ever being the progenitor of such atrocities, but it's possible she could be misled--as we all might sometimes be. You know what else I think? I'll bet the ones behind it were also fond of having faggy butt sex with each other and their subordinates, gaslighting themselves into delusional of cope: "I'm not gay, he's the one letting me cum in his ass!" The time for repent is nigh~
>>524647257It's odd how the boy Hugh of Lincoln and his tragedy have written accounts left behind by both a witness and the authorities, yet it is said that "there is no proof and that it is a lie", which can logically be dismantled. If written documents and decisions are not proof because they are false, then what proves that these documents are false? These are literal, written accounts of what happened. The same people who will say that written accounts of this are wrong will say that written accounts from within the Torah are correct. Why believe one ancient text to the point of creating an entire country in the 20th century based on it, but discredit a written account from the medieval age. It makes no sense, there is no consistency either.
>>524647553>I do not see the female spirit ever being the progenitor of such atrocitieswhat a naive silly little nigger you are. you should read about apache and comanche women and how they treated prisoners and slaves. they were far crueller than the men
>>524632915>>524633347>cross is an unfolded cubeUnfolded. Open.The cube is a spiritual prison, one that Jesus Christ sets us free from with His sacrifice.
>>524631007It isnt as complicated as you think it is. Ancient man studied the stars before anything else, it was basically a mobile for humanity that taught them fractions and rates and shit.Planet reverence was a ubiquitous phenomenon and the "inferred personalities" of the planets are nearly just as universal. Jews just preferred Saturn to Jupiter, and by the Jovian estimation, Saturn is its inferior
If there was a Titan class entity above the normal Gods then worshiping that would make zero sense seeing as how little normal ass God deals with humans.You'll have better luck with the local neighborhood mischief demon. At least you might have something in common with each other. I doubt many angel sorts like it here
>>524647700>bro trust meSo, the only citable evidence for your outlandish claims... are books? Libelous conjecture based on contemporary hearsay? Turbokek. You'll fool no-one here, serpent. I won't let you separate that which is inseparable nor will I suffer you leave to try. Kys nigger faggot jew
>>524647553Are you that naive? Women are capable of committing cruelty just like men are.In fact, that source comes from a book called 'Blood Passover' which was written by a jew himself. Its not like its entirely baseless or biased against kikes.
>>524647666There was literally hundreds of known cases (likely even more never solved) of Jewish ritual murder of children across all of Europe for centuries and that is just the known cases and apparently they were all just lying antisemites
>>524646617Moloch worship isnt described in the Bible besides that they are passed through fire, and youre thinking of Diodorus' account, not Senecas.The medieval idea of "moloch worship" comes from Diodrus' account, not the Bible. So youre just citing the same source twice. Think of it like this if you want, the false gods in the Bible are not worth naming, and it would detract from the universality of the message to "not sacrifice people". Molek is the word for "sacrifice", with the vowels of the word "shame". Its not an actual deity.
>>524633286How does that relate to evil shit like raping children?
I can discuss this for the interest of the topic.I will be making my argument from a perennial allignment of Hermetic Qabalah, Neoplatonism and Vaishnava Hinduism of the Vishishta-Advaita Vedanta philosophySaturn's position on the Hermetic Tree of Life corresponds to the third sephirah which is the sphere associated with the source of the feminine as in the sense of the negative pole of creation from ending existence, coldness, distance, nullification and death.Saturn is the physical embodiement and conduit of these energies, serving as a physical intermediary of the energies of Binah and as a whole all what Saturn represents.If one were to look at a hexagram of all 7 planets then Saturn is traditionally placed ontop of the 6 points. This corresponds 1 to 1 with the placing of planets in Hermetic Qabalah, only Saturn occupying on the hexagram a space it does not physically ocupy on the Hermetic Tree model.This is because the place at the top of Tiphareth is known as the passage into the abyss aka the underworld or the realm of lower energies and ones that thrive on all that isn't love or Godly.Saturn however does not represent anything anti God. This is an important distinction.for Binah and Saturn are results of the energies of God.The sephiroth are akin to petals of a lotus flower openign during sunrise and closing during night. The inside of the petals are only knowable and self evident after manifestation of creation. Binah is one of these natural petals and attributes of God, but God remains distinct from the attributes in his unknowable nature.The energies are simply extensions of God but not his essence. The abyss and underworld are created through the use of the energies of Binah, but are technically distinct from Binah as they are outfows. See it as yoghurt made from the same milk. The milk in the glass is the same, but a portion of its contents were poured out to make something similiar to and originally related but now distinct from the milk.
>>524648372both seneca and diodorius describe ritual child sacrifice in honor of baal hammon during the punic wars>molek means sacrificeno it doesnt. it means 'king' a common title for canaanite deities same as baal means 'lord' and was used for multiple different gods
>>524648759My bad
>>524648224Yeah, but I'm pointing to a very specific case of the highest authority writing off on the findings. If an event that has a written testimony of a witness, that is signed off by a king, is not proof enough, then how is any document signed by any king in human history proof that something happened? Whats worse, as I've said above, people who take ancient texts for granted and create countries based on it in the 20th century simultaneously dismiss a document like this. It makes no sense and it is this dichotomy of logic that is ultimately the death of the narrative.
>>524631007>Gnosticism>Satanic
>>524649189>people who take ancient texts for granted and create countries based on it in the 20th century simultaneously dismiss a document like this. It makes no senseTelling a normal Christian that Jews might be evil is like telling a /pol/ klan wannabe about Mansa Musa. They don't want to hear it
>>524648372No, moloch is specifically named multiple times as a named deity. You are a liar.
>>524649289Masonic faggot spotted.
Send all Jews to Saturn
>>524631270Santa = SatanChecks out
>>524649654You're just appealing to the religion endorsed by the Roman elite. Sounds masonic to me
>>524631007>baiting that Germanon to come out of the woodworks>but he didn't show uplol, lmao.
>>524649730I wrote a scifi about that
My only awareness of this Saturn stuff is from the book The Cult of the Black Cube, which was entertaining but I ultimately decided that it's a massive LARP.Mostly because he spends the whole book talking about how Saturn has a super sekrit name which only his most devout followers can know, and then near the end where he's describing some ritual to commit your eternal soul to Saturn he slips in that his one true name is Sonero.Pretty entertaining overall. I enjoy the small amounts of classical religious stuff I've read. Despite being an atheist, I find it more interesting than Christian stuff. Just a correction for a few people ITT, it's a completely separate religion to paganism. Also the terms are usually "Saturnine" and "Jovian", not "Saturnic" and "Jupiterian" or anything similar.Does anyone have any other recommendations to read up on this stuff? I want to learn about all of the classical gods, not just Saturn. Greek and Roman are both fine.
>>524650806He will come to this thread. I've reloaded three cofi statuses so far.
The north pole of Saturn is a hexagonal demonic looking storm that sounds like the howling and screaming of millions of people.Just something to think about
>>524631007Satanism is just edgy fan fiction for sex cults. Basically there's the faithful few, and the endless faithless hordes. The faithless constantly create fan fictions that they mistake for being faith.The bible tells the story pretty well. God does something, people have faith for a while, after a few generations they go back to being faithless for not personally experiencing God’s miracles. Those who keep their faith get rewarded. Christianity was a rebellion against the polytheistic and degenerate nature of man. Satanism believes itself to be the religion of nature, because without the "unnatural God's interference" man ends up doing the same shit no matter what era, no matter what blood line, no matter who god had chosen.Satanism doesn't see sin as bad, they see it as freedom. Freedom from the divine guilt of having animalistic desires. The worse the act, the higher status of freedom you have among the group. The same shit sodom and gamora did. It literally has not changed for thousands of years.Satanism is a syndicate of polytheism, and paganism. Not all polytheistic and pagan religions are satanism, but all under satan are polytheistic or pagan based.Satanism is stagnation or regression. Christianity is the real bad ass, but its leadership has been BoB'd. Bribed or blackmailed just like the rest of leadership in the world.Anyway it all basically means to just have faith and live life. Jesus either wins when the time comes, or the time doesn't come for our generation.All that rabbit hole shit you're talking about is nothing more than people's justifications to do evil, because they are just evil. The talmud was written after the house of judah was kicked out of the southern israeli kingdom for constantly trying to genocide others. They hate jesus solely because he USED the sceptre. The promise of kingship is the talmuds claim to fame. But it was never a permanent thing. It was to be used by the messiah.
>>524642671He also rules the Occult, and the Age itself will have Scorpio on its midheaven - we are going to be ruled by a bunch of psychopathic, controlling, manipulative, black magic wielding secret organizations. And with Gemini on the cusp of the 5th house, we aint going to be having many kids. Checks out
>>524631007The frequency of Saturn is associated with the formation of the material world, that's why Wufang Shangdis form "Huangdi" is associated with Saturn. Time is a fundamental unit of measurement in the material world, and karma is a major function of God in this world as well. Saturn presides over both of these completing Huangdis image as the Lord Of The Material World.
>>524649289>the snake in the garden of eden is the good guyYou understand how this would sound 100% satanic to a Christian, right?
>>524651407Additionally, god works in 7s. Not 3, 6, and/or 9. Make sense of that, and you'll understand much more.
Well, here is the thing, the jews believe in >All worlds are the result of a constriction and lessening of the Infinite Light (the Ohr Ein Sof), and are, to one degree or another, limited and defined. That is to say, the revelation of G‑d is less or more limited, depending on which world is referred to. Therefore, the word for "world" in Hebrew, "olam," is etymologically related to the word "he'elem," meaning concealment — referring to the concealment of G‑d's Infinite Light. In the higher worlds the Infinite Light is more revealed, and in the lower worlds the Infinite Light is less revealed.>The light is revealed in each world by what Kabbala calls the sefirot. These are divine emanations by which G‑d reveals Himself to man and by which He conducts the worlds, as the introduction to the Zohar states, "You are He who brings forth ten…sefirot." so fixing the world since it is not perfect and because they know that they think they are chosen. However, they are wrong. See reply
>>524631007Saturn is also the only planet with a ring. Theres a space station around one of saturns moons too
Read the secret doctrine and what occultists believe, In which the whole Universe is created by the energy (God) but earth and humans by Yalbadoth (demiurge) , I am Catholic and this is what I believe, imperfection is perfection, no need to repair but to understand where we came from . God created the universe, including angels/ fallen angels, the so called Yalbadoth/Satan/ Saturn created Earth and mankind by trying to imitate the creator, hence we are imperfect creatures. However even Satan was created by God. There is no need to fix the world jews want since they want to be the superiors(order makers of the world) by getting powers worshipping Saturn and other fallen angels. Christ came and probably others similar to proclaim that the meek shall inherit the earth and also being a Son of God/God of Love, forgiveness instead of just fear and vengeance. Hence we have a choice, we are imperfect but we all(including jews) have the God Spark(Holy Spirit/inner feeling intuition that connects us with the creator(when I take the eucharist I feel the transmutation of that divine spark) and the ego which plays with the material and inner vices/wants. Life is a balance of the decisions you make with both and when you die mostly you return to Earth but I think that if you can achieve enlightenment (Buddah, Jesus) you can connect and return to God not Yalbadoth/Satan hence why a lot of people think Earth is ruled by Satan the great deceiver. Other fallen angels/ demons can be antiquity gods that can give you some powers /advantage but always at the price of something (genies, other Greek, pagan gods) that roam earth. And here is my mostcontroversial opinion,
>>524631007>am not schizophrenic.You're a dumbass though
REPLY Read the secret doctrine and what occultists believe, In which the whole Universe is created by the energy (God) but earth and humans by Yalbadoth (demiurge) , I am Catholic and this is what I believe, imperfection is perfection, no need to repair but to understand where we came from . God created the universe, including angels/ fallen angels, the so called Yalbadoth/Satan/ Saturn created Earth and mankind by trying to imitate the creator, hence we are imperfect creatures. However even Satan was created by God. There is no need to fix the world jews want since they want to be the superiors(order makers of the world) by getting powers worshipping Saturn and other fallen angels. Christ came and probably others similar to proclaim that the meek shall inherit the earth and also being a Son of God/God of Love, forgiveness instead of just fear and vengeance. Hence we have a choice, we are imperfect but we all(including jews) have the God Spark(Holy Spirit/inner feeling intuition that connects us with the creator(when I take the eucharist I feel the transmutation of that divine spark) and the ego which plays with the material and inner vices/wants. Life is a balance of the decisions you make with both and when you die mostly you return to Earth but I think that if you can achieve enlightenment (Buddah, Jesus) you can connect and return to God not Yalbadoth/Satan hence why a lot of people think Earth is ruled by Satan the great deceiver. Other fallen angels/ demons can be antiquity gods that can give you some powers /advantage but always at the price of something (genies, other Greek, pagan gods) that roam earth. And here is my mostcontroversial opinion
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION God Created both good and evil and evil is necessary to know what is good, hence the some called balance of the force (constant fight of good and evil, good and bad decisions, ying/yang, DAY AND NIGHT, SATURDAY/SUNDAY , but we are not to fix the world but rather understand it and try to connect back to the Creator and that is why in a certain way we are all Gods since we have that holy spirt inside us if we nurture it.
>>524651345Who are you trying to summon?
>>524631007What are the "chances" as in a (((coincidence)))? 0%. What are the chances as in they have knowledge of our reality that they don't share but instead parade around in open secret? 100%.
>>524652393The German anon who always comes into these threads with a long reply, sometimes a pasta and then engages each and every reply. A mainstay pol original character, like that Portuguese guy that's in every Slav thread.
>>524631110>>524631007someone made this to explain it all
>>524652754Besides symbolism what are the actual practical effects of this information?Like what benefits are being offered or attained by having knowledge of these things? And I don’t mean some metaphysical bullshit but actual practical effects
>>524651241Not at all a bad book to start, that one. It provides a great deal of necessary context to what Saturn actually is, and dispels a lot of bullshit you see on /pol/, but also astrology corners. /pol/ just says "Saturn bad. Also jews worship Saturn, so also bad.". Astrology communities that are more aware of how often Saturn has influence in your life try to say "oh no Saturn actually good because your personal trainer is mean to you before you get in shape and get to fuck him". In truth, its somewhere in between those two points, but never actually those two points because its being purported by retards.
>>524653094>Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.>But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in all the lands you inhabit.>But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:>For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:>Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;>And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.>But shalt kill them with the edge of the sword, to wit, the Hethite, and the Amorrhite, and the Canaanite, the Pherezite, and the Hevite, and the Jebusite, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:>Because you did not obey the Lord or carry out his fierce wrath against the Amalekites, the Lord has done this to you today.
I've always found it amusing when people outside of the "secret societies" talk as if they know exactly what occurs in them.
>>524653441Didn’t answer my question but okaySo they have sefirots that explain the universe and what do they do with them? How do they interact with sefirot?They get material wealth and fame from worshipping Saturn but how, practically? Schizographics of symbols and correlations doesn’t really mean anything if you can’t do something with it
>>524653094It depends on how you define practical. Knowledge of the planets energies can help you keep your health in check. Tian chi (heaven chi) is the most important kind of chi.
KhwR0E/T READ what I wrote
>>524652397That’s what I’m wondering, do they have a knowledge of the nature of reality that they tease in symbolism and why is Saturn so central to it
>>524653818>It depends on how you define practical.So my question about practicality applies to this next line>Knowledge of the planets energies can help you keep your health in checkSo you say knowledge of this information can provide the practical benefit of better health, but my question revolves around HOW does this knowledge get applied to then create the practical benefit? Is it all based on rituals and rites? Intuition? Or does the benefit just come to you solely from understanding the knowledge?
>>524650641>Christianity is more masonic than gnosticismYou are a fucking retard nigger.
>>524652754How can I get this with more pixels? I can’t read it
>>524654209https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuxing_(Chinese_philosophy)https://www.vedanet.com/ayurvedic-astrology/
He is like a referee, strict but fair, and often misunderstood
>>524654613turn off mobile mode and open in a new tab>>524653669we were given commands on how to deal with them, it was ignored, now the consequences are made apparent, it isn't that hard to understand
>>524652754This is kinda mind blowing and the kind of thing I’ve been looking for. Is Judaism vs Christianity, Aryan vs Jew (Canaanite), God vs Satan is essentially just Sun worship vs Saturn worship? Day and Night. Good and Evil. Law and Chaos. Etc etc
>>524633868>Apollonian vs DionysianNow list all the things Jupiter exemplifies so we get a nice dichotomy to compare and understand.
>>524654209https://ia600602.us.archive.org/9/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.115032/2015.115032.Huang-Ti-Nei-Ching-Su-Wen-The-Yellow-Emperors-Classic-Of-Internal-Medicine.pdf
>>524631007Saturn is based. The primal farmer godof Rome is Saturn not the child eating demon Baal you fucking retard.
>>524631110Peak b8
>>524637365>Canadian Jeet doesn't understand the benefit of Temperance SAAAR
>>524632881>plagiarized Yggdrasil/Atlantean magik
>>524633125>Basically we just tune our energy into a psychic attack by doing high dose psychedelics and projecting our memetic psy energy directly into Saturns demonic hole.That's a really, really, REALLY bad idea.
>>524654176Saturn is the consolidation of sound into matter.
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>>524656930Explain
>>524657507>Sacred geometry and cymatics are deeply connected concepts, with cymatics (the study of visible sound) revealing the geometric patterns of sacred geometry (universal foundational shapes) as sound frequencies interact with matter, showing how vibrations create symmetrical forms like the Flower of Life or Metatron's Cube, bridging science and spirituality by visualizing the universe's inherent order. The meme is implying Saturns effect is artificial and that this is a prison.
>>524631007>After stumbling down the occult satanic rabbit hole of the Talmud, Kaballah, Freemasonry, Sabbatean/Frankism, Gnosticism and Hermeticism I keep finding Saturn worship again and again and again. Then there’s a whole rabbit hole just with this planet that’s crazier and even more convoluted. The hexagram, the black cube, teffilin, the kaaba, moloch, time and immortality, the number 6, the all seeing eye, all very satanic Jewish things, and more, seem to come from Saturn worship. Saturn was even discovered to have a hexagonal storm on its pole in the 1970s and the worship of the planet has been constantly associated with hexagrams and the Jews. What are the chances of that? So what is the deal with this planet and the Jewish/Elite worship of Saturn? Discuss or share your esoteric redpillsRead Saturnian Cosmology by Jno Cook, Saturn was once a benevolent god, but he is currently trapped (the rings and the hexagon are the chains). The ancient Aryans worshipped Saturn as their principal god, and this sun (Saturn was once a sun) was important to the planet. But Jupiter came to change this, because if we remained in Saturn's rule, there would be stagnation. With Jupiter's rule, there is no security, and it is precisely because there is no security that we can reach higher peaks than before.https://saturniancosmology.org/tab.php#index.php
https://youtu.be/YVpZMh1PaeA?si=XzytE_ALZw64U2hr
>>524633607>That is if you are a healthy male with a soul and spirit (gnostic).congrats anon.>If your a trany than saturn is seen as necessary element of creation/duality (alchemy).Gnosticism is Hermeticism. Alchemy is later (post early church) Hermeticism. The Church Fathers used Hermeticism in their interpretations of the Gospel. That's my understanding. How do you differentiate Alchemy and Gnosticism?>PS the stars and planets are not NASA/Newton material objects, they are vibrations/spurits/demins/aspects of conciounes. They can not be touched by hand or probe because all mater is confined to the firmament boundry. They are plasma below the ocean of the etheric field.Newton was an Alchemist. Also, he wasn't terribly wrong in his introduction of mathematical physics. His technique has led to our ability to manufacture the computers (semiconductors) we are using right now. The Hermetic premise that all is Mind/Logos (translated as "Word" in English versions of John 1:1) , stated more weakly that we inhabit an "orderly" world, is both Gnostic and Alchemical. As above (no pun intended), I don't believe that these schools of thought are antagonistic. Also, plasma is matter. An ionized gas that is well described by our physics. How do you reconcile this? Hell, the Greek Gnostics, the Physiologoi, were the original "physicists" (or, "natural logicians"). Heraclitus and his Logos, &c, &c.I'm not sure whether you're trying to muddy the waters or, instead, you just misunderstand things. Maybe neither, and I am he who misunderstands! Either way, I'd appreciate a response.>t. goy who majored in physics and, in further pursuit of truth, followed up with philosophy/history and has now arrived at Theology/Hermeticism/Gnosticism/Alchemy
>>524659112u will be found for having this knowledge bro. u must turn back and go back into the cave.
>>524631007BIG CRINE ALERT Saturn is a one Of The Trees of ValinorSaturn is a Fallen Star that has been Poisioned/Hijacked by Radioactive Jupiters moons to create Concept of Night (The Cube on its poles is langauge code saying "Man-made")If you want to Know Most of it, Check David Ickes Youtube Videos He sums it all up pretty well. Hes got it on Point.
>>524631110Come to my fucking house and trace my IP nigger.
>>524659540>u will be found for having this knowledge bro. u must turn back and go back into the cave.Appreciate your concern. I'll be alright. I am here to help build the ultimate trvthnvke. If I get murked for doing so, oh well! All is mind. Fear is ignorance. That's my faith. Would like to meet Jesus favorably at some point.
>>524631007fuck off faggot we worship Venus
>>524659744Why would i come to your house to trace your IP?
>>524659847There is actually nothing to fear, anyway. Once you realize that your path into this lifetime was planned even before, and that it was something you chose, it gets a lot easier. There is no other path but forward. And no other way than that which does not scream to you "detour".Also never become gay bro I need u to realize thats the ultimate trap.
>saturn worship Nice try covering for the jews, faggot
>>524659900Venuschads mog saturncels
>>524659847>3 3 9 9 3 3 3 9Didn't mean to do that. Intredasting. Miss me with that six.>>524660100>gayLmao I wasn't abused like that as a child and am now grown and can defend myself. No worries there. Happy that you are on your path.
>>524660238I worship venus and mars. The masculine and feminine both need to be celebrated.
>>524660683>>524660995Although these are fake has anyone ever attempted to translate the Hebrew?
>>524641762And what makes you so certain? Have you seen it yourself? You're acting like reddit atheist, none of us here have any real idea but we have faith. Cry about it.
Successful art and creative projects implement occult ideas. Occult imagery and themes naturally intrigues humans because it’s essentially using symbols, archetypes, and scenarios to covey distinct messages to the brain. These symbols predate written history and are naturally a part of us and our souls. Look at almost any successful movie. Branding is full of it, even people like Martha Stuart make use of occult symbolism. Look at the most successful cartoons of the 2010s - Adventure Time (completely overloaded with occultism), and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Harry Potter, Star Wars, even Star Trek used occult symbolism but made it science-y. Pokemon is loaded to the brim with alchemical references. Dark Souls, which thrust From Software into being a major studio, is a dark fantasy retelling of the gnostic story and involves heavy themes surrounding the demiurge and creation of mankind. Our religious holidays are centered around occult symbolism made somewhat exoteric (but not terribly obvious). A good recent example is The Amazing Digital Circus. This is also part of the reason Christian (and Muslim) media sucks so much. For people with power and means it’s easy to take it way too far and go insane. Tldr;>occult symbols hijack your brain and manually make you feel things
>>524661102>The masculine and feminine bothCarl Jung's last two works were about Alchemy's significance in what he had learned about human psychology. "Alchemy and Psychology" and "The Mysterium Coniunctionis" if I recall correctly. Anima/Animus, once dragged up from the depths, originating in the (sub/un)conscious refer to the understanding and incorporation of one's opposite within a given man/woman. The recognition of the union of opposites (masculine and feminine) within an individual. The union between two opposite individuals, physically, obviously leads to new life/consciousness/mind. This union is still present in the resulting polar individual, despite the physical polarity.The kikes don't just ignore the truth, they invert it. Instead of Hermeticism/Alchemy/Jung, which all retain physical polarity while embracing mental unity, they promote an inversion: trannies. Mutilate the physical body, don't bring your unconscious mind to light! Do not understand the generative principle, degenerate and destroy yourself! Prime evil.
Just curious if anyone else has given this a read? I'm in the middle of it and there is a section which directly relates Saturn to Santa and the origins of his home at the North Pole. I just happened to read that part right before Christmas so the idea + timing kinda blew my mind.
>>524631007Anti-Semite = Anti-Saturnite
>>524631007It's very simple.Rabbi Laitman explains it to a class in israel on bitchute. He says that jews are aliens that come from another planet to conquer the Earth, and make the living conditions fit for jews, they are only in human form for now.
>>524662160>The kikes don't just ignore the truth, they invert it. Instead of Hermeticism/Alchemy/Jung, which all retain physical polarity while embracing mental unity, they promote an inversion: trannies. Mutilate the physical body, don't bring your unconscious mind to light! Do not understand the generative principle, degenerate and destroy yourself! Prime evil.Further on this point, as this thread is about the esoteric: the kikes invert morality (a.k.a practical REASON) as they are deceived. They seek out "solutions" such as trannies (death) because their "problem" is existence, itself. Tikkun Olam, to the kikes who are in the esoteric-know, means "healing the world" via ending it. They seek to reunite the shattered vessel (Ein Sof). The shattering of said vessel is what brought forth existence. Ergo they must end existence to repair the vessel. Their hubris knows no bounds! Rather than recognizing the good in human flourishing (a la the Greeks), they believe that creation was a mistake and wish to end it.Somehow these retarded rabbis put their own limitations on God. Hubris, Chutzpah. They believe that the infinite power behind of all existence diminished itself in creating our universe. As if the infinite can be diminished! They cannot see that human flourishing leads to more little minds which can contemplate and approach the Big Mind which, according to sane analysis, is the entire point.The metaphor about love poured into a shattered vessel is obviously tied to impregation and birth. According to Hermetic/Gnostic/Alchemical thought, as I understand it, we are meant to follow the path from Gof and back towards God, best we can, so of course our births are the result of processes which can be used as metaphor for the infinite (God), itself!The kikes, as written above, misunderstood the nature of the infinite God and believe that their rabbinic death cult is the truth. Synagogue of Satan, Enemy of All Mankind, indeed.
heres the true redpill the hardest thing you will do is letting go of whatever religion you were born into. we are eternal dna stars of awareness in an energy war between + and -. 3d is considered the best for creativity because of its dualism. higher realms you cant think anything negative at all and lower realms are all beings eating/ raping/hunting eachother. saturn = a fake ai astral/afterlifeour moon = a terraforming device + vortex that takes you to saturn. don't go into the white light, their advanced ai will try to trick you with manipulation tactics like karma / seeing what ever religious figure you believe in. The pull on this vortex isn't as strong as the one at jupiter and can be resistedjupiter = an even bigger vortex that is 1000x harder to resist against and being dismantled by the good guys. Takes you straight to the fake ai astral inside saturn where they MEMORY WIPE and send you back after 2 or 3 yearsnaming the "planets" after "gods" and what not was another manipulation tactic if you somehow got out of the grid (theres a grid around earth to repel you back but theres holes in it now) you would think jupiter would be where to goall humans are in this together, all this religion and division is manipulation from advanced humans with advanced tech who have deals with elites to drip feed controlled tech to us so we don't get to their level.3I atlas isn't a comet. They are fucking up the jupiter vortex and WW3 will start to get as much loosh / souls as possible while the moon is still active. Don't be surprised to see apocalyptic meteors flying down from a dismantled Jupiter. When they come for the moon vortex the earth will flood and volcanoes will erupt everywhere because the moon is also a terraforming device. remember they are not gods just advanced humans (tall whites / nordics) who got into a fight with a rebel faction who fell in love with native earth humans and want us to have the same tech.
>>524633472>>524633635>>524633801>>524644587Cryptoviewing had an episode where the cryptoviewers did a remote viewing on tom hanks and they came back with he worships baphomet.
>>524663482>The kikes, as written above, misunderstood the nature of the infinite God and believe that their rabbinic death cult is the truth. Synagogue of Satan, Enemy of All Mankind, indeed.Further, from the pen of a jew, himself. Found in "You Gentiles" by Maurice Samuel:>We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you do will meet our needs and demands. We will destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build. Beyond all temporary alliances with this or that action lies the ultimate split in nature and destiny, the enmity between the Game and God.>the GameWho plays stupid/destructive games more than the kikes? This kike openly admits that they are destroyers. Most of you have seen this quote. I'm posting it to tie it back to the esoteric kabalah of e.g. Luria which explicitly states that jews exist to end existence (research Lurianic Kabalah if you'd like to learn more). Even an insane author like Samuel probably thinks that the jews aim merely to enslave all life, without realizing that the rebbes mean to not only enslave but to end all life, including jewish life. They are blind from bottom to top. Liars working for liars working for the Liar. The little jews need to wake up, fast.
>>524659112Hello. Nice I love talking to fellow naturalists bros. The issue is you have a soul but not a spirit. You need to work on it. If you fail you will have another try again in a next reincarnation. I would love to explain it all but that would require a 10h sesion with drinks.I will try to keep it simple (also I had a few drinks so my iq is lower keep in mind).1# newtow was not an alchemist (left handed path as best). It was not even human it was a cryptid lying nigger like michel jackson working for the merchants. And newtonian physics is a lie by omision.as is rationalism and relativism. It is a satanic deception.The material world (physics/the rigid limit bound observable reality) aka the real rational world exists, BUT is just small slice in the the whole existance which seems to be mostly imaginary (like a dram of God like being). The enemy tried to hide this (ether) by caling it dark energy and dark matter and relativism)More specific to the newton nigger, the reason things fall down is because of density and the reason things rise up is due to boyency. There is no need for graviataion ( the G is also a covert simbol of saturn btw, saturn created/maintains the ilusinary energy/particle aspect of this realm).Now I also solved the unfied theory and I know what energy and numbers are.Energy/numbers are a mesure of decay from perefection (the less perfect a structre is, the more it interacts with matter and the havier it gets and falls down. This is where the subconsious idea of bad people being fallen angels (angle) comes from. Numbers are the enemy of geometry.this why homless people and holywood elites attract atention by being degens.As to the historic tekstbook gnostics/alachemist you reference. When people on 4chan use term ghostics it is more of contemporay movment that uses that flag becuase it resonates with the historic order, more than the actual historic entety doctrine.
>>524659112We live in a 3d world, hence why we only have 3 choices. The male (spirit) (internet gnostic bros, the infernal feminine (satanism) and the union which is the alchemist bro movement.Our observable world looks loks like a layer cake. The deepes we formaly know is the bora hole in russia. It not possiblw to drill further as all structures melt into pure unformable energy, this is pure hell. Literal formles chaos that burns all form of concepts/structures. On the other hand (up) there is a boundry where energy (chaos cant go further up) and probably pure imagination/forms exist at a certain altitude. There are so called 7 fitmamnets above us (probably below as well). The sun and moon are plasma phenomeno created just above the first firmament where noble gases can exist, but is difficult or impodible to send a rocket (unless it is made of noble gass which is imposible) above the sun and moon are other forms of imagination (mater is heavy decayed form of imagination) and is no longer even plasma but the alchemical concept of ether. Literaly spirts. Saturn is above the 7 firmamsmnrt. The nigger conveniatly put it self or was formed above this region where time does not exist and observes and feeds on our suffering.some consider it a teacher, I dont do not.That is why satelites (which is also covert saturns light, el as in elite means light of saturn which is dakness) are toys suspended by helium and why nasa is one of the worlds major holders of helium). And why cables go into oceans. There are never were astronauts.The stars are probaly portals where demons try to trick to go after you die to feed another matrix (uterus)
>>524664714Hey, not reading your faggotry, but just letting you know.If you want people to read this shit, cull the vomit. If you can't differentiate between meaningful discourse and vomit, feel free to not bother.
>>524664580>The issue is you have a soul but not a spirit.Mind is enveloped in Soul is enveloped in Spirt is enveloped in Body. You miss one of the fundamental principles of Hermeticism.Newton was an Alchemist. Buoyancy/density aren't even opposites. The former is a result of a relative density while density is... density. Start with physics 101 and go as far as your mind will take you. The (nearly perfect, sans Mercury) conic sections traced out by the planets of Sol are well described by the inverse square law. Understood by it, though? No. Newton himself wrote that he had no idea what gravity "is", only that he had supplied mathematics which describe it well.Are you muddying the waters or are you in over your head? Or, as above, am I he who misunderstands?
>>524664714>>524664841>If you want people to read this shit, cull the vomit.To the first quoted, I second the second quoted. You didn't address any of my questions. You didn't point out anything wrong with my position (which I always appreciate if true). You write as one of the poor folks who have gone overboard, despite that some of what you've now written is, at least, tangential to truth. No point debating, last reply from me. Other anons can make up their own Minds.
>>524665112>Or, as above, am I he who misunderstands?This. It is like a pc that lacks a gpu, you just dont get. If you achive gnosis(spirit). Everything will be clear. You come from the asumptions, or prefer a certain worldview. Just like the original phytagorians (hylics) had a disgust of decinal numbers and imaginary numbers, so they just killed everybody who exposed them. Like a runaway system restore program on windows preventing a new vsrsion due its ego/enertia (oroboros)
>>524631007This is why putting a temple to Jupiter on the Temple Mount was one of the Chad moves of all time
>>524631007All is mind
>>524633666> For real tho doing psychedelics is basically like opening yourself up to demonic possession.Those digits...
>>524631270ELves
>>524665700jew lol. Stop IP hopping, kikel. Too obv.
Alchemists consideree Saturn a sun, or the old sun. Saturn is the physical state of existence, or the projection of it?
>>524665700>took my advice>culled the vomit>all that remains is chunks>it's still vomitHoly fucking shit.
>>524660100>Also never become gay bro I need u to realize thats the ultimate trap.How so?
>>524631110I love posts like this
>>524633125That sounds awesome and I am in
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>>524631270>Saturn and Santa have in common?So santa and Saturn are satan?
