Funny how Americans have to avoid going to the ER even in serious circumstances to avoid medical debt
>>524649688if you can’t afford an ambulance then it wasn’t an actual emergency
>be american>go outside>get shot>go bankrupt
>>524649688Yeah, we're not commie fucks.
>>524649688Unless you're a poor worthless piece of shit likely seeking pain meds where the ER is legally required to stabilize you regardless of your ability to pay. Someone has to pay, so these leeches end up raising the price for everyone else.
there are so many conditions where all advice is seek medical review, then by the time you get to the hospital and a doctor sees you, they say its not an emergency emergenccy you can go home. but due to liability the advice has to tell you to go for a review
Compared to the EU, where they call an ambulance and stay 7 days in the hospital because they're a bit itchy? Totally sustainable.
>>524649934>$5k deductible>6-12 months of post-tax, post living expenses income for the average mutt
>>524650092you're not, 100% of the people running teh country are commies who get free money for nothing. you're the little bro who will pretend he liks the handmedownsthey're also gonna fuck your gf when you get one, sorry
Only time you should go to emergency room is when it is serious enough for ambulance. Otherwise should go to urgent care clinic.
>>524650116you could just tell junkies no and make it harder for people to get addictive narcotics through the medical system.
>>524649688I had an old guy fall and was during my time doing parking lot security. I was freaking out and thought calling 911 was the move. The old guy begged me to not call them and by the time the ambulance arrived, his buddy pulled up in his sexy cadillac fleetwood pissed as all hell at me, dragged his friend aboard the car, and drove away.If you ever come here, which I don't know why you would, just know that people don't see it as courtesy to call 911 for anything really.
>>524650299emergency room: board certified MD/DO trained in emergency medicineurgent care clinic: some retarded woman with a DNP "degree"
hospital bills are gay. a trip to the ER costs as much as a used car
Somalis ain't got nothing on insurance lobbies and politicians lobbies by them. Pic related Quality Learing cars sure are nice.
yes its true and I am with the commies on health care. It's one of the most bloated, jewed and criminal mafia rackets around.
>>524649688Wow, more Plebbit trash posting, how amazing.
>>524649688I work in a hospital and sometimes when I'm bored I look at the admitting diagnoses of the different units. frequently ER is because of dizziness or coughing or other menial bullshit. many illegal immigrants also go to the ER because they can't be turned away per legal policies. (and then never pay for their treatment and labs)
We have 50 million illegals who don't pay a dime toward emergency care but are required to be able to receive it. Then retarded leftist niggers wonder why health care is expensive and blame capitalism.
>>524649688Medical debt is not serious and you can just not pay it. They won't garnish wages or anything over it. Just lower you good goy score.
>>524649688I drove myself to the hospital when my lung collapsed spontaneously while I was in the highway. It’s not because I’m poor or have no insurance or anything, but because I didn’t want to wait to be picked up. When I showed up to the ER, the lady at the front desk was like “how can I help you” and I had to type out a note on my phone and show her since I couldn’t talk lol. She just stared at the note for like a full minute and then stared at me with her mouth open and was like “is this a prank” and I shook my head no Good times. My parents showed up later and were freaking out while a chest tube was put in me
>>524650549why is capitalism importing more jeets in bigger numbers than ever?
>>524650550This is a bullshit lie, you can in fact be sued for medical debt and then have wages garnished you dipshit nigger, and good luck getting a mortgage with your 580 credit score even if they don't sue you
>>524650550>They won't garnish wages or anything over ityeah they will. lmao. where did you hear otherwise? here's an example. https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/10/07/this-small-town-ohio-hospital-sued-2700-patients-in-two-years-for-unpaid-medical-bills/
>>524650620We haven't had capitalism since 1971, you are confusing jewish corporatism with capitalism.
>>524649688It's not about the cost (cash pay is amazingly cheaper than having so called insurance and if you are poor health care is basically free) it is that doctors here are incredibly incompetent. (Dangerously incompetent.) There are reasons that health care "mistakes" are the third leading cause of death. There is simply no health care situation that can't be made worse by visiting a "doctor" in America.Cheers!
>>524650708why did capitalism importing infinity spics in 1971?
Why can't you just have a friend or family member drive you to the hospital? It's faster than calling and waiting for an ambulance?
From what I've heard, people just go to the ER.And generally, people there also try to stop them from dying.How much it costs, how big the invoice is, how...Anyways.The fun actually starts when your insurance decides that your medication is a bit much.That part is not cool.Also, OP waits 16hrs in the ER while bleeding out.
>>524650373Never call 911, anon. You're lucky a cop didn't show up and kill your dog.
>>524650708>1913Central banking is the fifth plank to the communist manifesto.
>>524650786If you take yourself to the hospital you have to wait in the waiting room. If you arrive by ambulance you cut ahead of the people waiting in the waiting room.
>>524649688Hospital and ambulance are too expensive and the cost is hidden. I asked the lady is it 100 1000 10000 100000 like just ballpark how much is it and they won't tell you. You just have to wait months then they sent a bill for whatever amount they feel like. It isn't possible to make an informed decision. I do not recommend ever using either of them unless the other option is death or permanent maiming. If someone else calls one for you never give them your name they will bill you even if you do not consent to treatment.Just avoid unless you have no choice
>>524649688Australian here, when I was 8 had to get an Ambulance, was 3k AUD and took an hour and 45 minutes to arrive despite being down the road from the hospitalIt's no worse here, socialized healthcare only helps people with long term conditions and realistically the US could do with a better system for dealing with those, and the US has a problem with crooked hospitals charging an arm and a leg without providing a service (had a 5400 charge that amounted to an entry fee for my wife last year, when the hospital wouldnt do shit for her) and most critically, the US has a problem with hospitals just not providing a service and needing to go to thousands of specialists even in an emergency, resulting in poor quality healthcare and loss of life/dignityThe problem is not a lack of socialized healthcare though, the problem is that healthcare providers are given the leniency to demand you waive your right to sue them for malpractice before treating you, and communicate with insurance agencies to the degree that they can move prices skyward at ridiculous rates for things people need to surviveSolving the healthcare issue is very simple, we need caselaw that shows that forcing or manipulating people to sign waivers to receive healthcare is illegal, and there needs to be legislation limiting the relationship between healthcare providers, such as doctors and nurses, medical lab companies such as pfizer or moderna, and insurance agencies, as this relationship gets in the way of the healthcare providers relationship with their customersThat said, healthcare in the US is no worse than overseas (though better healthcare exists), and 99% of "problems" with the US are people who have never been anywhere else (or have only been to middle class bars on holiday) and complain about how shitty things are>le gun violence99% of gun violence is gang on gang, school shootings are glownigger backed (cont)
>>524649993>be Mexican>think the murder rate is higher in America>feel smug
>>524649688American Healthcare is great as long as you have a job with employer provided insurance.We also have the best Medicare known to mankind.
>>524651366counting or not counting school shootings?
>>524649688
>>524651428it gets worse if you’re enployed
>>524651000Depends on the time of day. I drove myself to the emergency room once and they took care of me immediately because it was sunday afternoon and no one was there.
>>524651442Count them all, Pedro
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>ER trip for extremely bad nausea which consisted of a couple of bags of fluids and zofran, no imaging>f/u with your family doctor in three days>4k totalyes sir mr. shekelgoldbergstein i'll get right on that bill immediately thank you for the world class healthcare
>>524651348>ContI've lived in some of the highest murder rate parts of st louis and felt safe because I'm not in a gang, racial tensions have made it scary but not disgustingly, when you dont include areas like this the US has a gun violence rate similar to western european nations>Le christianityyeah its fucking annoying how preachy it gets in small towns, on the other hand 90% of the country (lets dodge deep south shit like louisiana) will just leave you the fuck alone even if you're a troon or a card carrying satanist, because people believe in freedom here>CopsAs an australian I have to say the police here are infinitely less corrupt and mostly fine, this seems to be the result of having local police rather than just state and national police, there are exceptions such as shitwood (who should hang from a rope), but in general it's good here>Cost of livingThe US has one of the lowest costs of living of any first world nation, and while the minimum wage is low generally, you can and WILL get hired if you apply, and entry level jobs paying 30USD/hour exist, not to mention houses that cost 40kBasically as someone from a socialist shithole, I can't fucking understand why people hate this country at all, yes it's corrupt and there are things wrong with it, but to a much lesser degree than anywhere else in the west
>>524651471Nope. It's cheap if you're employed.
>>524651485>they took care of me immediatelySweet. I live in a small rural town and it's like that here. A couple years back my wife had a small kidney stone. We waited like five minutes at the local hospital before they took her back to get checked out. Everyone was very nice and they gave her a little pain killer shot to help.
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usa has great world class outcomes for acute interventionspoor outcomes by first world standard (for population as a whole) for chronic conditions cus of your demograhpics, but the cost of long term condition management like meds and checkups is a factor. wealthy or atleast competent people manage their condition well.
>>524651680tell me what "cheap" looks like when you're prescribed a drug that's not on your PBM's formulary. (i work in corporate accounting at a major health insurer.)
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>>524651680how is it cheap if your employer cuts your paycheck if you use their insurance
>>524651680The average annual premium for employer-sponsored health insurance in 2025 is approximately $26,993 for family coverage, with employees contributing about $6,850 towards that cost. The average annual household income in the U.S. in 2025 is approximately $80,610. So Americans are spending about 8.5% of their yearly income on health insurance.
>>524651919Just don't use that drug.
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>>524651972It's part of your wage.>>524652042Nobody is paying $7k year for employer sponsored health insurance.
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>>524649688Yeah its like 15-20k dollars
>>524649688is it true people die sitting in the emergency room in bongland
>>524649688If I die, I die.
>>524649688It's just we have cars. So if we scrape our knee, or break an arm, having a friend or family member drive you is a lot easier and faster.
>>524651469Cats was written by a British person thoughbeit
>>524651469You can even do this with all the European diaspoos in this country. They're all ugly consumerist trashy garbage with no culture.
>>524651848>>524651957>>524652080>>524652204This is art
>>524649688Ambulance ride's 600-800 bucks, depending on your insurance
>>524651602don't forget to leave a tip
>>524653119
>>524652744Edit: Thanks for the gold kind strangerEdit 2: 327 upvotes for this? Haha wow that's the most I've ever gotten, thanks guys and gals and everything in between!Edit 3: WTF 600 upvotes wow thank you all so much this is the best birthday everEdit 4: Thanks for all the birthday wishes fellow r/wooooshers. I tippeth mine hat to thee on this pleasant morrow.Edit 5: Ok, so this went viral overnight for some reason O_o 2000 motherflipping upboats I really have no words thank you all so much it means a lot!Edit 6: ok I'm noticing some toxic discussion happening in this reply chain and I feel the need to address it. Sexism and racism are not cool guys, so please cool it and continue the good vibes please and thank you!Edit 7: ok so I don't know why but I've received a lot of downvotes on this post recently, maybe i got raided by 4chan.com/b?? (commonly referred to as the "asshole of the internet" for those who aren't aware). I don't really ask for much but I was hoping we could show those losers a thing or two, so please give this post an upvote if you haven't already, it would mean the world to me and show these bullies you cannot mess with a good person.Edit 8: turns out my girlfriend cheated on me, so that happened :/Edit 9: so people have been wanting me to clarify the previous edit. I don't have the energy to go into a lot of detail so the general gist of it is this: Yes we were in an open relationship, no that doesn't mean you can't cheat on someone when you're in an open relationship. If you are having sex regularly with someone and never mention it until they get you pregnant, that is definitely a betrayal of trust even if you've both agreed that she can have as many partners as she feels she needs to be comfortable.Edit 10: FYI, taking responsibility for the child does not make me any less of a man than you, actually it makes me more, so kindly fuck off please and thank you!
>>524653119>Ambulance ride's 600-800 bucks, depending on your insuranceC'mon man
>>524649688Why does American healthcare make leftists seethe so hard?
>>524653850i probably make more money than you >>524651919 and i think it's a retarded scam.
>>524649688With my medical insurance a ride to the ER cost me $250 out of pocket.
>>524653850Because they think they should be allowed to do drugs, drunk alcohol, smoke weed and cigarettes, capture/spread STDs, stuff their mouths with junk food, never exercise and be a morbidly obese piece of shit, while paying the same amount as you for healthcare. Because they know in a free market, they'd either have to give up on their vices, or pay higher premiums.
>>524654166you're leaving out the deductible part.
>>524649688With my insurance an ambulance costs about $300 if I haven't met my deductible. That's expensive enough not to want to waste on non-emergencies, but cheap enough that I'm not avoiding calling them for emergencies.Considering my effective tax rate is only 15%, I save more than enough money on taxes to pay for any medical care I need. Europeans can't afford to pay extra for medical care because they already pay for all the niggers to get medical care with their 40% tax rate.
>>524649993>be mexican
>>524649688>This exact thread spammed for 12+ hours
>>524652042Seems like a fair amount to pay when our tax rates are much lower than Europeans tax rates, don't you think?
>>524653951So true, xister! Healthcare is a human right!
>>524654642there's a good chance your insurance premiums are indirectly paying for me to write this post.
I have never paid for medical bills, never got a credit hit, never got sued or wage garnishmedical bills and insurance are a dumb goy tax
>>524649688Illegal spics and niggers dont have any problem using the emergency room or the er. What is your point? Anybody in the world can come to America and walk into a federally funded emergency room and they have to take care of them. We dont have debtor prison in America. If your poor you just let it go into collections and it gets written off. If you are actually poor you get completely free Healthcare anyway.
>>524654726>i probably make more money than youWhich insurance company pays you to sit around here bumping reddit screencap slide threads on 4chan all day?
>>524650299if your regular doctor hasnt been bought up by one of these corporate hospitals you can still go there too (but if they have good luck getting an appointment sooner than 6 months)emergency room has its place if it's either extremely urgent or a certain hospital admission but "urgent care" is just a psyop to make us accept that regular doctors no longer can make next day appointments for their sick patients
>>524655526>urgent care" is just a psyopThis and they're allowed to turn people away because they aren't a hospital. They're kind of a scam, high prices but can't really do more than a regular doctor's office. I broke a bone and went to one and they took an X-ray and told me to buy a cast off Amazon and charged me $500 plus tip
>>524650116And the medical industry loves getting paid for it either way.Only if you're working poor does it cause financial burden.
Be American, get shot, die. Family receives a 2 million dollar bill in the mail for the attempted life saving treatment by 35 paramedics and 2 rescue helicopters, plus the local fire brigade. Be Australian, get shot, live and be awarded 2 million bucks after all your emergency care and rehabilitation was free anyway.
>>524654514>>524651366>be mexican>be american
>>524655526urgent care is basically triage. if you need to go to the hospital they will send you there
>>524653850They are generally unhealthy and want to force society to pay for their issues. If people are on a public paid for health insurance they should be required to meet certain fitness requirements. About 23% of the entire us government budget is healthcare, not counting social security which mostly goes to healthcare industry. If we required people to maintain a fitness level it would lower cost overall but that would be racist or something.
>>524656142>be Canadian
>>524655053have you ever had an office job?
>>524655526urgent care is a multi billion dollar scam industry that exists because american workers have no rights and often require doctors notes in support of 'sick days' from work.
>>524651366>be Mexican>think the murder rate is higher in America>feel smug>get skinned alive>carlos thought I looked at him funny
>>524650423With my insurance company for ER is $100
>>524649688my brain read circumcisions and now I'm cackling at the idea of taking an ambulance to get an emergency circumcision
>>524650749They work for cheap because you can threaten to send them back to Mexico of course! It's like slavery-lite!
honestly if USA would actually be a capitalist free market country, instead the a monopolistic shithole that it is, i would open UBER-health to treat teeth holes, basic trauma and do blood tests 10 times cheaper than the (((insurance)))
>>524650567>Spontaneous lung collapseWTF, I have never heard of such a thing, how the fuck does that happen?
that's the price of freedom
I thank god everyday i wasnt born in some 3’rd world shithole like the USA
>>524649688I avoid the (((doctors))) because they are only there to make you sick or kill you. The only true healing comes from God from within, no (((doctor))) needed.
>>524653667I know someone who took an ambulance ride about 10 years ago. It cost $850 at the time.
>>524657811Likely due to a Tuberculosis, but they don't want to write it in the stats, like they don't write >intentional homicide so mexico would stay in the lead on murders per capita
>>524649688these ambulance bankrupts are the same "people" who call us "yuropoors"
>>524657590Based capitalist.
>>524656068>Be Australian>Get shotHow can this happen? Did someone get shot?
>>524657896you can't defend yourself you HAVE to let them kill you in Europe. at least the ambulance will be free!
>>524658198Cope more Paco america is 40% white and falling at the speed of light
>>524658342I don't care about whites I'm just laughing at you
>>524649934I have two broken feet that I walk around on. I am 35 with a job.
Notice how the COMMUNISTS won't engage with my post.
>>524649688An ALS ambulance is $1500 to $2500 near where I live. It can vary alot just in the next county.
>>524658428Whatever helps you cope
>>524649993>be mexican>be at the wrong spot>get killed>get dissolved in Diesel and never be found
>>524659927>be Hansi >Mehmet fucks his mutti>Mehmet's nephew Deniz fucks Hansi's schwesterlein >Hansi works in their doner shop anyway
