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y not ubi tho
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>>524652930
lets just fucking take money from rich people to give to useless niggers
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Introduced, and because UBI is wealth redistribution to retards who will just avoid work. Bad for the economy.
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>>524652930
Maybe Elon should strive for Universal Basic Outcomes instead.
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If you thought you were getting UBI, you shouldnt have let all those jeets in and made yourself unable to employ in the first place. Nobodies giving you a handout for remaining unemployed.
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>>524653088
this is you
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>>524652930
"introduced"
heh, it goes nowhere
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>>524652930
Kek
Can't wait for it all to go to brown people because a middle class white family "earns too much to qualify"
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>>524653088
what are rich people if not useless niggers?
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>>524652930
Wow right as we just uncovered this major state funded child care scam
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>>524652930
More taxes? but if they pay nothing then more of nothing is nothing.
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>>524652930
Elon is just an actor playing rich CEO of privatized Darpa social control projects. (((they))) try to make him edgy and cool so the plebs buy the shit products his companies sell. Same with Jobs, Gates, Bezos...
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>universal child care
You mean like that scam shit they're busting all over the country? They want Elon to be forced to pay for somali scams too.
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*moves all his shit to cayman islands*
heh nothing personnnel
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>>524653230
>middle class white family
Those dont exist anymore, also its spelled White. Too many people who need jobs, not enough jobs, and so no UBI. UBI is for when theres lots of jobs and people are still suffering. UBI is something that happens under full employment, not massive unemployment.
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>>524653088
You're not a billionaire, you'll never be one. Stop simping for them and gladly regurgitating their propaganda like a tool.
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UBI would drastically lower the suicide rates of autistic people in America and lead to America having the exact same problems as Cucknada, Europe, etc. It’s a really bad idea.
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Is this a shocker to anyone in the room that wages go up when you have run out of people to fill the jobs, and you still have more jobs that need being done. This is just WW2 Germany importing Czechs, in that scenario, except now theres no jobs and they filled the existing one with parasites - who Ill note - send every dollar back to India where its then immediately "sold" for rupees, devaluing the US dollar itself. Every foreign worker is a "short" on the US dollar. Now is not the time for handing everyone a thousand dollars a month, you mean more shorts and inflation? Nope.
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>>524653164
That faggot south african nigger should suck a UBC (ugly black cock).
Saffers are always conniving, charlatan cunts and Elon is the absolute epitome of this. What happens when you force a Dutchman to coexist with a billion niggers? Exactly what you think would happen. You get a saffer. All the cunning and greed of a Dutchman with a nigger's total lack of shame and accountability.
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>>524652930
Fuck yeah! Finally. We need a wealth tax immediately. Tax unrealized gains. It’s only right that billionaires pay their fair share for once.
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>>524653266
Reported for spreading antisemitism
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>>524653140
>Introduced, and because UBI is wealth redistribution to retards who will just avoid work. Bad for the economy.
what if it was capped at 50% of the poverty line and had a work requirement to qualify for it. universal supplemental income
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>>524653420
Grab a calculator and please figure out how much money youd actually need for ubi. You just sound so stupid making this "wooow youre in the rich people's team?" Your programs would fail because they are retarded, and in some mavical world where they succeeded theyd only subsidize the worst of the worst.
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>>524652930
>y not ubi tho

Because if you just write people a check instead of creating a program that goes through a government contractor or a NGO then there's no opportunity to steal. Imagine if Minnesota had just written people checks instead of sending billions to phony Somali charities, how would anyone grift off it?
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>>524652930
how about deport all the browns and kikes, eliminate the fed.
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Add on 250 billion for Israel and it might pass
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>>524653728
>but what if this
>pr how abkut that
Thats mot what theyll do. Stop pretending you dont know theyre evil. Theybwill take from whites and pay niggers to kill whites. Ubi is a salary for being a criminal. Stop being stupid. Stop being stupid stop being stupid
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>>524653088
How about we implement UBI and get rid of niggers jeets and jews?
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Universal child carers are called mothers. They used to stay at home to do child care.
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>No UBI but all of the single mothers get money for DaQuan
I'm so sick of clown world already.
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>>524653088
Look at this bootlicking cocksucker simping for jewish billionaires and woke kike corporations
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>>524652930
doesn't elon take debt against his equity, which has zero tax on it as it is debt? how much is his actual salary per year?
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>>524653088
Yes goy but you vill pay for the Jewish healthcare because Jews are the superior chosen race and you goy are just cattle beasts
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>>524653820
About $900Billion a month, at $3000x300M citizens per month.
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>barking up the potato tree again
Congress confirmed wiggers.
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>>524654079
why do white people do it?
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>>524653196
>>524653266
>>524653088
Imagine actually believing tax money goes to White people
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>>524653728
Then you might convince me they constitute earned wages. "No Unearned Wages". Satisfy that, would be your goal. Also dignified wages, is something NS supports. So you might argue a janitors job isnt dignified enough in terms of compensation. But he would have to work long hours to get it, none of this well I only could find a 5 hour a week job so give me half the poverty line. Youd have wiggle room yea, its not capitalism arguing against you.
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Shoot the person that runs this twitter account
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>>524654001
MIGA
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>>524653159
He should be stripped of all his wealth for this statement alone
>>524653196
Kek
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Socialism is wealth redistribution, capitalism is usury, NS says no unearned wages. So redistributing wealth is inherently unearned wages. You have to work, and say its because you work, and you work hard and long before we would see common ground.
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>>524652930
universal childcare is how they keep the scam going.

ubi means we have a choice in where the money goes which means it may not go to somalis
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>>524654370
Get a job anon.
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>>524654238
I don’t know, Americans don’t get healthcare but the superior Jewish Master Race does thanks to American taxpayers
>you vill have nothing and be happy: MIGA Edition
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>>524654489
So we should end socialism in the US?
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Will never happen
If it does happen, only very poor people and immigrants will benefit from it, middle income makers who are making ends meet but still scraping enough that they can't afford houses or childcare can go get fucked.
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>billionaires not allowing government to steal enough money
All taxation is theft, no exceptions.
If those parasites were competent there would be a National PROFIT, not National Debt, but goyim are too braindamaged to comprehend such things having been born into tax servitude.
Bill to stop AIPAC puppets & Feds leaching money they never earned when?
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>All the memeflags in this thread who think that the US government is going to steal all of Elon Musk's money to send them free shit over in India.
Seriously though, the US government already steals 7 TRILLION dollars a year from the producers, how much more will they need before some of it trickles down to you niggers?
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>>524654666
It won't happen because it won't work. Even if you took all the billionaires money, you MIGHT afford 1 year of UBI. UBI has to cover mortgages/rent, medical care, food, bills, etc.
At least $900B a month. $10.8T a year. Just in the US. That would cover expenses to live for all legal US citizens(about 300M people).
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>>524653159
he's not wrong on the lack of skilled workers here
i wouldn't say we're entitled but compared to caste surfs i guess we are
i truly believe that statement was taken out of context, at the global scale he operates conversations are going to sound different and considering he is not a American he is still America first..
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>>524655005
>UBI has to cover mortgages/rent, medical care, food, bills, etc.
>imagine being this naive
No. UBI only has to cover buying yachts, parties and other expenses for those who passed the bill. Throw in an extra $100K spent on 'UBI'-ishness in some bumfuck county for a puff piece in owned media to make goyim like you think UBI is working.
You STILL think politicians are HONEST in 2025? The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>524652930
taxing musk is immoral he needs that money to get us to mars
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>>524653140
Who needs to work when you can have automation?
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>>524655187
exactly he needs skilled h1 indian engineers with durga engineering school PhDs in rocketry and aerodynamics so he can get us to mars >>524655405
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>>524652930
>Putting Americans above some South African.
Trump will veto it.
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>>524655405
Humans cannot survive on Mars.
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>>524655358
Nobody's getting UBI. That is all. It doesn't matter what anything wants, thinks, or believes.
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>>524653088
Simping for billionaires is sad
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>>524655535
I'm going to get one whether they want to pay it or not
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>>524655513
Give Elon a break, he doesn't understand chemistry or biology. Or physics. Or geology. Or meteorology. Or neurology. Or metallurgy.
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>>524653196
that fedora tipper would never in his life make such a stance towards his favorite nigger race
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>access to American dream

Why do these people talk like it's a product at Walmart?


American dream is saving. Investing and with a little bit of luck, making it. Its not for everyone. Its not for lazy fucks who order doordash everynight
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>>524655535
>Nobody's getting UBI.
No shit. They never intended to give anyone UBI.
Money laundering taxes is the biggest scam on the planet.
>Foreign aid
>UBI
>Development programs
>Assistance
>Care package
>Support scheme
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>>524652930

Robin hood stole from the tax man and gave people their money back.
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>rob from the rich (white) and give to the brown

Yeah I guess that's the modern American dream.
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>>524655616
>simping for billionaires is sad
simping for thieves to steal your hard earned money to give to niggers is even worse
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>>524653397
A 105% exit tax would unironically prevent this.
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>>524653570
probably the most insightful post on this entire board right now.
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>>524656081
>A 105% exit tax would unironically prevent this.
>Making plausibly deniable targeted political assassinations appealing to billionaires as a cost effective policy
Unironically (communist level) dumb idea
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>>524653407
>UBI is something that happens under full employment, not massive unemployment
Post rona most of the western world has at lease reached a state of "full employment."
Several countries - the US and Germany for example - have reached states that can be considered being beyond "full employment."
I call them
>maximum employment
and in its most absurd state
>over employment.
Both countries have reached the final stage of over employment and are yet to even cut back to maximum employment.

There is simply increasingly less human input needed to keep things chugging along nicely.

Anybody vowing anything to the contrary of my observation I kindly remind of the lock downs during the rona where it became apparent that the system remains perfectly operational with one third, or even just one quarter of the long running averages of human input/work.

Oh and btw. "basic income" could be implemented at any time because money and currency is created ex nihilo at will and - as mentioned above - only a fraction of human input was even needed HALF A DECADE AGO.

Imagine how little is required nowadays with the advent of AI and all the rest.
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>>524652930
>more funds to childcare
really activates the almonds
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>>524652930
>The American Dream
you mean that thing they gave to illegals and niggers for free? ok lol
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>>524653140
what work?
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>>524653831
Good point.
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>>524652930
>universal child care
FUCK OFF WITH THIS NANNY STATE BS
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>>524652930
There is UBI, just not for you.
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>>524653196
fuck the poors, yes. poor people are poor because theyre subhuman.
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>>524654602
You should end your life
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>>524656476
Just a little human geofencing, leaf.
I'm sure you can remember how it was during the rona.
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>>524655187
He is wrong though. I have a STEM degree and most of my classmates were White with a few Chinese. Well, there were Indians in the intro classes but they all washed out. All of them. The Chinese were caught cheating later on. The Whites were the only ones who could actually learn the material and apply it.
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>>524652930

Why not simply require employers to allow employees to take their offspring to work?

Problem solved
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>>524658412
Why not simply require parents to deal with their own kids and cover their own costs?

Problem solved
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>>524655486
thats not what im saying and overall i don't think that was the point of his statement.
You are thinking like a mom & pop operation, bro is trying to fill 500 million jobs and there are only 320 million Americans.
He is philosophizing about what it would actually take to support a multi plant space mining and space station research centers so we can learn and built towards colonization of Mars and Venus. You're just too small minded to conceptualize that.

And use your stupid ass brain, H1B foreigners are NOT allowed the national security clearance to work on anything critical what so ever.
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>>524653088
You are servile cattle who will never have sex lmao
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>>524653088
Rich people are the useless niggers at some point they inhibit human creativity
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>>524652930
I would go as far as to remove tax protections to churches, that's why these faggots are all christ is kang because they hide their money in mega churches
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>>524652930
>inb4 elon, zuck, bezos, etc don't pay a single dime more because there are loopholes
>inb4 it fucks over anyone who is in the "upper middle class" or "lower upper class" because they can't afford teams of accountants and lawyers.

Same fucking thing, every time.
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Why is the us paying for Israels shit?
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>>524654489
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>>524653420
You're not a nigger welfare slave, stop simping for them. Wait, you probably are.
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>>524653266
do you think you're more likely to be stabbed in a parking lot by one of the millions of niggers or a rich person
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>>524652930
LOL
Somali niggers will just steal it
So many will need to be killed
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>>524653159
Why'd he say the entitlement bit? There's a reasonable argument that there aren't enough geniuses in the USA to meet the full requirements of the tech industry but then he let's slip his true motivation in that he doesn't want to pay american wages
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>>524653820
I never said anything about UBI, retard.
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>>524655005
Even worse.
Everyone in the lower class expects ubi to elevate them. Whatever is being spent now, you need to cover multiples of that cost.
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>>524652930
Wow. Universal childcare was NEVER a component of the American Dream.
>"Gee golly, I sure hope one day to have apathetic strangers raising my children, paid for by my taxdollars!"
said nobody ever.
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>>524662176
There's plenty of geniuses in the US, we're just smart enough to know we'll be treated like a slave working for someone like musk... I guess that makes us "entitled".
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>>524655187
man, this is kinda cope. we know that the "skilled" workers coming from brown countries are not skilled at all. they barely speak english and have fake degrees.
the real solution, if there is a skilled worker shortage, is to train people and make them skilled. this can be done at a company level. but even better is to overhaul the (((education system))) to spend less time with noses buried in books and more time hands-on doing actual work, learning how to be productive.

Classrooms and diplomas are so gay and feminine.
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>>524663770
No one says it but more than enough are thinking it.
My own mother is constantly haranging me to hook my children onto state institutions just for free babysitting. It's gross.
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>>524663962
They're so brainwashed. People don't even know how to have a good and happy life, they only know how to slap even more chains onto themselves.
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>>524652930
What about millionaires like the people in congress?
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>>524664465
Let's just focus on the billionaires ok?
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>>524656905
>poor people are poor because theyre subhuman.
or maybe were not money obsessed jew-lites like you
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>>524664005
>Youre a fool scrooge! Just tell them your kid's autistic and then you can masturbate and play video games more!
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>>524665082
Ah the ol'
>I'm poor because I'm moral
Cope
No its very obvious if youve met any poor people that money is all they think about.
Musk isnt sucking herpes dicks in gas station bathrooms for 5 bucks. Musl wouldnt even take your phone call if millions of dollars werent on the line. Only poor people debase themselves for small ampunts of cash. Grow a clue.
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>>524665219
>all poor people are crack whores
no most of us just work for kikes who don't pay us enough to thrive
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>>524652930
>CHILDCARE FOR SHITSKINS... PAID FOR BY WHITE PEOPLE
pretty simple desu
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>>524665469
>no most of us just humiliate ourselves for amounts of money we know wont improve our lives
Yeah. That's what a crackwhore is.
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>>524665718
and what do you suggest? go on a pilgrimage to find a non-kike employer?
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>>524652930
>childcare
so it's a front for more fraud just like in minnesota, got it
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>>524652930
What are they supposed to tax exactly?
These people don't have bank accounts full of money. They have net worth based on ownership of stocks and holdings like bonds and businesses or property. If they need cash for whatever reason, they go get a million dollar credit line from a bank using some of those holdings as collateral. They may never even pay it back.
They don't make an income like we do. Their investments mature, the line goes up, businesses report increased profits which improves their desirability which increases stock prices due to demand that makes the value of what they are holding worth more.
These people are so outside the common poors that most cannot even understand their fortunes outside of big number in magazine.
We believe they are obscenely wealthy, so people give them expensive things so they seem obscenely wealthy. There is no money to tax, no private vault of gold bars and bundles of cash to loot like from an ancient king's palace (unless it's for show). Threatening to tax these people is as effective as threatening to tax the homeless, and likely less profitable.
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>>524660959
Which one imported all the non-whites to work as slave labour?
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ger id of corps
have king
kill jew
boot orc inc mik wop rican
10 room n slavegirl per white male
sell women men not want women to india
end corp bank lawyer landlord
use flibe.com to build cabins and megadorms
end red light have road circle or middle u turn lane instead
water exhause hydrogen gas burnign machine inc dymaxion car with stirling or turbine or rotary or int combustion engine
expermient a lot with free money from king
pro white movies with hot thick big tits girls n strong heroic men
no more money printing or instant death penalty
no more jew media
no more univeristy or school
no authority above white male
nba rules called and rules rolled back to 1980
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>>524665896
To stop importing immigrants is the only thing i will ever suggest.
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>>524662176
Being entitled to having a 9-5 and not working overtime without pay.
These pricks just want slaves
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>>524666150
out of our control
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>>524665957
Indeed. The only people who will get taxed will be high pevel wagies who are busting their ass and/or invested large pkrtions of their life to get a real education. Warren buffet coming out in favor of higher income tax should have been a red flag but instead communists jumped in his lap.
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They don’t have enough money
25k once for everyone
That’s all the money billionaires have
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>>524666265
>behold the poor passing the buck and giving up like always
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>>524652930
elon will support this cause he want people to have more babies.
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>>524655405
He's going to give it to jews.
That's why tesla motor's value is so high despite teslas being garbage.
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>>524655187
>>524653159
>don't hire white people cause browns are cheaper
>don't bother to pay for schools to train people for the jobs you need
>complain about Americans not being skilled enough

Elon is a traitor. He is not invested in the USA, he is invested in himself to make the most money.
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>>524652930
Because they need to give the somalis more money, not white neets!
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>>524668606
He can't be a traitor when he was never American in the first place
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>>524668663
Based chink
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>>524653196
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>>524655616
You're the ones simping for billionaires. You're like the reddit "anti work" people. BROOOOOO IM NOT LITERALLY AGAINST WORKING, JEESH, GIVE ME THAT HECKIN WORK LIFE BALANCE...OR DING DING DING FREE FRICKIN HEALTHCARE...AND LEST NOT FORGET, MENTAL HEALTH DAYS AND SERVICE FLIPPIN ANIMALS... I don't want that shit. In fact that will make me poorer. I actually don't want to work at all. Just like they're "anti work", you're "anti rich".

Yes here you are "YASSS BILLIONAIRE TAX" for???????? Drum roll please - tadum! #Universal Childcare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hello? Rich people are the ones who bought the politicians to sponsor this bill so gullible smooth brains think they are fightin for the little feller. It's a con you fucking retards even if it passes it's a SCAM TO THEIR BENEFIT so they can eek out even more work from BOTH parents than was ever before possible.

If you were serious about that money
>Immediate suspension of passport and travel rights of all kleptocratic ill-beggoten rich
>Money goes to YOU not some stupid bullshit program
>Take it, arbitarily, not this tax bullshit.

The irony is not ironic and isn't irony at all if you examine the poor person mentality. They don't actually want the money. They want to show their slave morality and act like "IM A HARD HECKIN WORKER" and never shut the fuck up about how good of goy bill payer they are. America doesn't have a rich person problem. It has a "temporarily successful proletariat" problem. Take away the money of rich people who like to party and have le sex and le fun. Give it to temporarily embarrassed millionaires to become the justifiably rich. If you reflect on it long enough, poor people are worse than incompetent rich.

>WHAT DO YOU NEED THAT FOR
>""""I CANT AFFORD THAT""""""
>YOU CANT AFFORD THAT
>THATS A WASTE OF MONEY
>THATS TOO EXPENSIVE
>WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?????? 70K IS FREAKIN GOOD MONEY.
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Elon will sell us UBI as a means to control the government more than he already does with a financial system that replaces the Federal Reserve. The next admin will need to Elon proof everything. JD has repaired Elons relationship with Trump.
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>>524669410
Soup of the day note: Trump was talking about firing the federal reserve guy. Also he’s leaking CIA operations.
Congress has passed a low amount of bills this year. So this act is not going anywhere
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>>524652930
>restore access to the American Dream
So they admit straight away that it's inaccessible now. That's a start.
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>>524652930
Ban stock buybacks
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>>524654370
>Young men.
Republicans christfags literally cannot stop thinking about young men age 13-17.
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>>524668566
>Blasting jews into outer space and forcing them onto mars.
I'm all for this idea now.
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>>524657611
right which is exactly what i heard, "we don't have enough Americans actually capable of learning this" in such a discussion the idea of alternative workforce's must at least be acknowledged otherwise it's not a discussion, it's manifesto...which it's not.
To you that might sound like a declaration of intent but really it's just acknowledging the very real problem of:
You grandstand about how you can do it but then don't do it...and that is because there is a broken pipeline between what is needed to do a job and current societal regulation requiring a bunch unnecessary and often prohibitory accreditation to even be considered for hire.
The conversation is a lot bigger then " hur dur hire cheap Indians" and to fix the problem we much first acknowledge it which to a fucking moron like sounds like a endorsement of "hur dur hire cheap Indians"
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The cycle of mutt politics
>We introduced a bill in congress to tax those pesky evil billionaires to fund...le children
>Won't somebody think of the poor children?
>Meanwhile bill ends up with 1000 corrections carried up by the very lobbies that fund politicians, composed entirely of billionaire
>Bill gets passed, turns out due to corrections le billionaires have special tax relief from it think of the poor economy
>All the tax gets shoehorned into the middle class and working people
>And all the money is used to fund the billonaires as well as somalians, jeets and other mystery meat grifters who actively destroy and undermine society at large
AIPAC red, AIPAC blue, doesn't make a difference, you voted for it.
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>>524671079
>AIPAC red, AIPAC blue, doesn't make a difference, you voted for it.
"Voting for the lessor of two evils" then complaining when they consciously decided to vote for evil.
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Reminder: Programs like UBI do the opposite of inflation and provide a deflationary pressure. If you print money then yes there is inflation -- But Yang's plan didn't call for printing money but instead a Value-Added Tax. Everyone pays in, but those who consume the most pay in the most. This tends to be the wealthier. The wealthier also spend their money slower than someone living paycheck to paycheck. Then everyone gets the same amount back: $1,000/mo. By increasing the purchasing power of the lower tier, you increase the velocity of money (how quickly the same dollar bill is spent). Each time the dollar exchanges hands economic activity is generated. The more often and quickly this happens, the more the economy grows. As the economy grows there are increased production efficiencies and more competition in the marketplace. This brings prices down. Since the total money supply didn't change, boom: deflation, not inflation. Yang isn't a politician. He has a degree in Economics from Brown and a Law Degree from Columbia. He knows this stuff, and he knows politicians from both sides aren't doing anything to help us, so he tried.
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>>524653088
billionaires are the most useless niggers in society
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>>524671079
it's either that or you get every other form of government on earth which is either

>we don't have serious lobbying problems, we simply choose to act retarded because lmao
or
>we have serious problems. we're just fucked. our entire country is made up of idiots
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Wow, free shit!



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