https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_NagasakiA moment of silence for all 150,000+ who died, please
The second one definitely was not necessary. Our bad.
Have you picked up a real history book? The Japanese were raping Flip and Chink women and cutting the babies out and then executing them after, torturing any captives during the world war by boiling them in hot water and even cannibalizing them while alive. They were the Mexican drug cartel x100. Those fucking maniacs deserved it.
>>524672195It brought about the end of the war, in arguably a more humane way then firebombing the entirety of Japan. At the end of the day, the bombs went off there was a surrender. Its arguable. If they set one off after the surrender, that would be an example of unnecessary.
>>524672529>t didn’t watch Grave of the Fireflies (1988)Astoundingly bad take, plebe
>>524672691I've watched it. I don't base my history facts off a fucking anime. Go chug bleach weeb.
>>524672758>Sociopath, in current year no less
>>524672795Are you telling me I'm wrong? I've been to Japan and a lot of their south islands and in Intramuros in Philippines while i traveled Asia a few years back. All of what im saying is true. They were like ISIS on roids and more organized.
>>524672195Yes. Japs are insane.
>>524672195Nagasaki was chosen vecause it had the highest population of christian faggots.
>>524672907>japanese civilians deserve to get nuked because soldiers did things Based retard Shouldn’t have bothered wasting time with you
>>524672195Yes. Was Pearl Harbor really necessary?
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>>524672999>never heard of the LeMay leafletsShut up and sit down weebtard
>>524672195Without this we would not have anime and without anime /pol/ would not exist. So yes.
>>524673178Some things are worth forsaking anonPerhaps something even better would’ve come about instead; like the cure for cancer (or autism, since some anons itt clearly suffer from it lol)
>>524672195Maybe.But at least people are slowly (rather quickly actually) realising that the bad guys won ww2.
>>524672999The population was well aware and supportive of what they were doing you fucking loser weeb. Not gonna even ack your trips. They only hit Pearl Harbor because of how far it was off main land US and close to them in the Pacific. They didn't have the capacity to make it the mainland and carry out such an attack. If they did? they would have. Now they're our bitch and ive slept like 4 Japanese girls that love America. So suck it weeb.
>>524673056Thays a man
>>524672195Jews made the bomb
This is me dodging horrible cope posts rn kek
>>524672195not reallyit was to summon a quick end with massive innocent bloodshed
>>524672195The actual answer is no. Japan was hesitant to surrender because we wanted to keep our emporer. You weren't a fan of that, so we didn't surrender. Then, you nuked us and our emporer surrendered because he didn't want Japan to be genocided, and then you were like "oh yeah, you can keep your emperor lols"Like... If we fucking knew that we would have surrendered a year or two earlier. It's insane.
>>524673653Bro became a marine biologist later.The ironic part is, they let him live to be an eternal and living reminder that the Japanese surrendered without their leader dying in the process.
>>524673761The whole thing was really fucked up. I served. Infantry and support. I couldn't drop a nuke on a city and I'm tired of hearing the excuses from the fags who did. That's pure evil. There's no way I could murder thousands of children and grannies and not kill myself afterwards. No way. Those people weren't human.
>>524673929Harry S Truman hated Oppenheimer and called him a snivelling little bitch when he cried about the bomb being used.
>>524673653You can tell they were just itching to use that thing. Should've been Africa.
>>524673929Yes there must've been another way. That's true. It was all a ritual to destroy the old world I guess.At the same time, even if 1/10th of the atrocities that the Japanese did- turn out to be true, then they had to be brought down to their knees. And yet, look at this map.We basically missed out on the complete version of the Roman Empire (Greece would be better off under Italian rule isntead of the Satanic EU cult that it is under rn). And that's just one example of course. Long-term, it didn't turn out well for literally no single EU country. Then there's the USA which openly works solely for AIPAC. Not even hiding it anymore.But at the same time, there's shady shir like the haavara agreement in 1933 with the Nazis and (((them))). About Japan, again, I don't know what the answer should've been. It will forever be a "what if...?" Scenario.
>>524673320>hurr burr burger mmmpfh mmpf i love cheeseburgerSmartest american comment. It's never justified to kill civillians. War crime, simple as
America took the easy way out and tried to avoid 1M+ casualties and massive domestic protests that would result in trying to invade mainland Japan. One way they could have prevented this was to invade together with the soviets of course, but the americans also wanted to prevent a "pacific iron curtain". I think it would actually been more healthy for america as a civilization-aspiring state to bite the bullet and shed that blood. It would have made americans relationship with Asia more multifaceted. It's just silly to leave the mark of having nuked the japanese etched into history, as if it was supposed to downgrade Japan forever or smth
>>524674395You're literally Romanian. You understand the Japanese empire would have continued their ISIS Mexican Drug cartel type shit and if it wasn't for those nukes, we would have kawaii Japanese girls and the faggot anime you guys love so much.
>>524672195Yes, otherwise Operation OLYMPIC would have used TN8 to poison Japanese crop, starving the island out, presumably to the bitter end of the Japanese people as the Japanese would not surrender until the nuclear strikes against them.
>>524672195Yes. Russia was set to invade the day after we dropped the first atomic bomb. They were still butthurt the japanese sank most of their navy 30 years before. They would have demanded a portion of japan, just as they demanded a portion of germany. We should have just nuked russia too. We probably would have killed fewer people than communism ended up killing.
>>524672195yes, we should do it more oftennamely israel
>>524673653America got too emotional during that war, that mask-off moment must have been a wake up for people in asia and ussr. When America today needs Japan to actually rise again to compete against China, the nuke thing just stands out as a sore in the relationship and I wouldn't be surprised if future japanese governments, depending on US decline rate, would just start souring the relationship again due to the nukings. White people really fully bought the illusion of the "end of history" last century, man. But of course they end up blaming jews and not their own stupidity
>>524674215Japan's case was simple. Japan was ready to surrender.
>>524675030I'm tired of being America's lap dog. The Chinese are right. Taiwan isn't our business. We should kick the yanks out and declare neutrality and trade with china. And also get our own nukeclear deterrent.
>>524675130It would be the best outcome at this point yes. Free trade between these two countries (except for food).I still can't believe how difficult it is to find cheese in Japan btw.
>>524675130Japan is in a tight spot! If USA wins big against China, Japan continues being dependent. However if China wins big, China will take revenge on Japan for having acted against it. Maybe it's best for Japan to just buy time for now and only half-heartedly follow USA's orders?
>>524674757The did invade, the day before the second nuke was dropped. The Soviet invasion into Manchuria was part of the reason the Japanese surrendered.
>>524673026Yes. Roosevelt couldn't flip on his campaign promise to keep the US out of war without an undeniable justification. Public sentiment leaned hard toward staying out, "No more American boys dying in Europe" since everyone recalled the retarded US entry (pun intended) into WW1. Lindbergh and the America First had the interventionist hawks stymied, so Roosevelt embargoed Jap oil, leaving the EoJ no option but to attack the US somehow or accept every Nip engine, from naval vessels to motorbikes, grinding to a halt.So yes, "they" needed an attack on the US to swing public opinion toward war, like the Spanish American war, and Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria/Libya/Yemen/etc. Pearl was definitely necessary.That's what you meant, right?
>>524675892I don't get why the focus of this discussion gets shifted into the mechanics of a false flag and not the historical illiterate move of nuking a civilization like Japan just to avoid sharing another border with the soviets
>>524675562Absolutely none of this has anything to do with China. The US' foreign policy exists for one purpose and one purpose alone: to prevent Germany and Russia from uniting. Why did the US nuke Japan? The soviets were going to invade Hokkaido. Why does the US want to remilitarize Japan? The USSR didn't back off Sakhalin. Note how the US only turned hostile on Japan after they lost Kholkhin Gol and signed a neutrality pact with the Soviets. Japan had no oil of their own and was largely dependent on the US for military equipment and oil. The second they saw Japan was trying to conquer China after their truce with Russia the US full on panicked.
>>524672691>tranime crapyeah thats not going to un-rape nanking. japan fucked around and they found out.
>>524675835I'm not talking about manchuria dipshit. I'm talking about japan. The Russians were planning to invade hokkaido to secure some japanese territory for themselves.
>>524676288The grannies and kids that got fried didn’t do that
>>524676479shouldve surrendered then. shouldnt have dragged america into the war by sneak attacking pearl harbor. shoudve actually invaded the soviet union instead of just fucking around raping other asians. the list of japanese warcrimes would take paragraphs to write out. the nukes are a textbook example of fuck around and find out.
>>524676188That's US goal in Europe yes, but America actually spends more money against China today. And it's not like a german-russian alliance would become top 1 in all circumstances. You would have an entity with China-like potential but with the downside of extremely hostile neighboors bordering Germany
>>524676454Manchuria is important to note, it was the most developed place in Asia at the time, even more so than Japan proper. The fact the Japanese lost their most developed and fortified land and didn't even want to pursue further war against the Soviets was a major turning point for them and the war as a whole.
>>524672691Barefoot Gen is better. I haven't seen GOTFF in a bit, and while I remember it being really good, Barefoot just feels more factual.
>>524676651But how are you going to encourage Japanese of today to fight China if you justify their nukings by reminding them of crimes against China? Get on with the times, either apologize to Japan or do not encourage them to become uppity again
>>524672195americans was most evil it was genocide of innocent civilians
>>524676765If you’ve read the DanDaDan manga, there’s a yokai who is trying to actively kill the protags, but then saves earth from a massive alien invasion due to having trauma flashbacks of the bombs dropping since the ayys have a massive fleet with devastating weapons It was actually pretty kino
>>524672195Obviously not, just kike rage over germany temporarily busting their NWO plan, just straight up taunting and anyome who endorses this should honestly be executed.
>>524676694I promise you China is irrelevant, the US had near continuous friendship with China until they started buying Russian oil. The entire reason going back 200 years why the Monroe Doctrine was even created was as a reaction against the Holy Alliance between Russia and Prussia. If Hitler or Stalin conquered Germany OR Russia both is a net negative, which is why the US played sides in WW2 both of them were socialists trying to unite the regions. There's absolutely no threat from China almost all of their economy is propped up on Russian resources, they're copying the Anglo meme of offshore balancing and trying to put a wedge between them and the US. It's the same shit in Ukraine and why they don't want the EU/US getting too close. Russia can't defend itself without expansion it can't afford letting military bases getting too close and China was tight with the US until maybe a decade ago.
>>524672305>The second one definitely was not necessary.Neither was the first. The US does this thing where they plug their ears and go 'I can't hear you, la la la" by cutting off diplomatic ties with certain governments. (We did this with Afghanistan when the Taliban was offering to surrender Bin Laden to us in late September 2001). Japan tried to surrender before the Potsdam declarations, but they had to send their messages through third parties. Potsdam demanded an unconditional Japanese surrender. The Japanese asked for only one condition: the preservation of their emperor and national identity. We said no. After we dropped our only two Bombs, we let them have those things anyway. The decision to drop the bombs was made BEFORE Potsdam because the bombs were necessary to shape the post-war World Order. The New World Order built around Dollar-as-world-reserve-currency and The Cold War was decided at Breton Woods in 1944. (The Soviets were never our real enemy. From 1919 until 1992 the USSR never went more than five years without American aid and particularly food aid, and would have collapsed without that aid). There was some discussion in later years that the decision to drop the bombs was not to stop the Japanese but to scare the Russians, but in fact the Russians knew it was coming. It was done to scare the rest of the world.The threat of bombs that could wipe out cities in one pop was supposed to drive the nations of the world under the protective umbrella of either the US or the USSR (first world or second world) and the cold war was supposed to end with a synthesis of Capitalist US and Communist USSR with one big united world all kissing and hugging and thanking their preferred religious being that we didn't all die in a giant nuclear holocaust and going on to have world peace forever.It didn't work because after the Cuban Missile Crisis when Khruschev called for peaceful coexistence, Mao called their bluff with his Third World movement.
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>>524673293This.You don't have to look at the 'documented past' too closely, with an understanding of how quickly reality is getting rewritten right now before our very eyes, to understand how absolutely (((kiked))) the entirety of the history of the last 300 years is.
>>524676815>But how are you going to encourage Japanese of today to fight Chinai dont really care, we can flatten china easily if we actually felt like it. china is a paper tiger and if china is dumb enough to invade taiwan it will destroy them. the chinese historically have gotten along well with america and the chinese are less psychotic and retarded than the japanese so i expect china to come to their senses and rebel against the ccp once they start losing a war.
>>524672529Chink detected.Mao killed more than 10x as many Chinese as the Japs did.
>>524672195Wasn't atomic though. Just thousands of convential firebombs.
>>524672195Japan should have demonstrated that it didn't need such things by not surrendering.Surrendering was the greatest mistake. Japan should have fought to the last man rather than live as slaves to a fake and gay jewnigger empire.Japan did not wage a decisive battle on the mainland with the resolve to sacrifice everything, it is now, 80 years later, being forced into a quiet decisive battle on the mainland against filthy gaijins.
Absolutelyhttps://youtu.be/9_fxYyeNJcM
>>524674101And that was only about the first one. The Fast Man on Nagasaki was just to show the Russians the new design that required a lot less fissile material to make the same amount of bomb as the guaranteed little boy. Everyone needs to remember that America had already fire bombed Tokyo like they had Dresden, except they killed upwards of a million people in the Tokyo inferno. The two nukes were novel, but had nothing on the damage that was already done, other than the stark reality that they could do it with 1 plane instead of a thousand.
>>524676754It's important, it directly led to the korean war, but I think the main factor in dropping those bombs was to quickly end the war with japan before russia could demand a seat at the table (in regards to mainland japan and their islands) while simultaneously sending a message to the russians that we have the upper hand in weaponry. The yalta agreement was already settled for manchuria before truman was ever in office.
>>524672691GOTFF is about the firebombing of Tokyo and really more of a treatise on stubbornness than horror and survival. The children COULD have stayed with the abusive aunt and lived.Barefoot Gen is the author's autobiographical take on his childhood in 1940s Hiroshima and the aftermath of the bomb that he saw first-hand.
>>524676158The guy asked if Pearl was necessary.My understanding is that the EoJ had made several overtures for a negotiated surrender. The US insistence on unconditional surrender was a ploy so they could use nukes and negotiate from a position of strength to keep the Soviets east of Berlin without yet more years of conventional war to prevent the USSR from taking all of defenceless Europe along with the global financial system of Switzerland and London. It had nothing to do with defeating the already defeated EoJ. They did it to secure the post war world. Definitely a war crime. Probably necessary.
No it was no necessary they just wanted to kill the Catholics.
>>524677145Yep, Japan's leadership at the time had grown quite accustomed to seeing cities devastated by bombing. What shocked them more than the "new type of bomb" was the Soviet Union's entry into the war against Japan, despite having signed a neutrality pact.Even so, the decision to surrender or not remained evenly divided within the cabinet. Ultimately, it was the Emperor's sacred decision that determined Japan should surrender.
>>524672195Yes, it was necessary, the military tried to force a coup without regard for what they were being hit with. Also, the firebombing of Tokyo was worse than both nukes - those were firecrackers compared to modern ones.
>>524677257which is based, to be fair. japan should be thanking us really.
>>524676651They DID surrender. We plugged our ears and said "We can't hear you!"
>>524674182The first one was planned for Berlin, the timeline just didn't allow for it.
>>524672195Yes.
>>5246721950.4% of WW2 deaths.
>>524677145They got the fissile uranium from German u-boat U-234. The retarded Jews cannot create things. Are you stupid? Why do you think theyre parasites?
>>524674182they shouldve hit moscow and just gone right into total soviet death. wouldve prevented the entire cold war
>>524672691I got laid to this. I was in a film class freshmen year and the class themes were on Death and Dying and how films depict grief and loss. This was like the second movie and this qt3.14 blonde bipolar manic anxious pickme girl invited me to her dorm (she had no roommate) and we watched 10 minutes of this before making outShe ruined my life for nearly 9 years. Thank God I didnt get married. Some She cheated on her back home BF with me that night telling me three days into sleeping together, thought I was different, but of course she'd later cheat too. It's brutal gentlemen the lies she'll tell you and even worse what you'll tell yourself. I was so low that I knew it was happening and just couldnt care as long as I didnt pay for shit and she didnt want a ring. Not a gf just an escort wannabe divorced parents one multi time. Loved her. Could not fix her. Never saw the movie.
>>524677329yeah protestants Zionist are giga based. Thank god the USA kill the Catholics.
>>524676829You fucked around and found out - don't touch the boats, we will kill civilizations over this. The other plans involved a land invasion projected to result in millions of American casualties with nukes used in an attempt to clear the beaches, and projecting the near-eradication of the Japanese people in fighting through the Home Islands, with horrific American casualties. The third one was to simply maintain a blockade, sinking every Japanese ship found, until the Home Islands starved, but this was also deemed too genocidal.But those more severe options were absolutely on the table at the time.
>>524677500Sounds like a nuke got dropped in your life too
>>524677529catholics are the ones flooding this country with their beaner catholic brethren so yeah its a shame the USA didnt nuke them here as well.japan would be a beaner hellhole like LA right now if we didnt nuke their catholics.
>>524675892>leaving the EoJ no option but to attack the USThis was another case of US State Department plugging its ears and singing "La la la, I can't hear you".There was a Japanese Envoy in Washington the morning of December 7th 41 with an ultimatum for the US, "If you don't relax your embargo, we will attack", and they were made to sit in a waiting room all day. When they didn't send the US response to Japan, Japan signalled for the attack at Pearl Harbor. FDR and his heavily Jewish cabinet desperately wanted a war.
>>524676979Chinese will be even more fanatical than the japanese against you bc the Taiwan issue is seen as a civil war for them. There is absolutely 0% chance that you underestimate China to be some sort of tin foil dictatorship and not the continuation of 1000s of years of central control, right? There was not a single year of democracy in China ever nor there will ever be
>>524677564>t.
>>524677673>Chinese will be even more fanatical than the japaneseno, lmao. the chinese cannot fight for shit. their entire history is them losing wars to basically everybody. the average chinese peasant doesnt give a fuck about taiwan and doesnt give a fuck about the cpp.
>>524677630The US really does have a hate boner for Catholics thoughever. They literally sponsored Buddhism in Asia over them.>South Vietnamese politician who was the final prime minister of the State of Vietnam (1954–1955) and later the first president of South Vietnam (Republic of Vietnam) from 1955 until his capture and assassination during the CIA-backed 1963 coup d'état.>In 1963, Diệm's favoritism towards Catholics and persecution of practitioners of Buddhism in Vietnam led to the Buddhist crisis.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngo_Dinh_Diem
>>524677673We are not interested in regime change, we are interested in dominance. The current US national security strategy is to create Fortress America out of North and South America, utilizing resources and latent manufacturing capacity to boost economic output and feed a war machine that can fight China on even terms, in addition to Pacific allies chipping in with their own formidable military capacity. That is the plan. We do not need to conquer the Hemisphere, only keep it under influence.
>>524677667They had a multipoint plan of action to goad the japanese into attacking. They even gave all the navy guys at pearl harbor the day of that day, while they kept their best ships far to the north. Hell, the japanese cypher 'code purple" was broken MONTHS before the attack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo
>>524677754Tel Aviv could have 10,000 tons of Sarin, or a cobalt-salted nuke, dropped on it, and I would not give a damn. Nice try.
>>524677425They got the uranium from Canada you fucking brown clown. Look up uranium city and wonder why the town died at the beginning of the cold war instead of the end.
>>524677784its because catholics are fundamentally shitskin communists and we've been fighting against them for basically our entire history. mexico is basically our oldest enemy.
>>524676900The US is part of the Milner's Kindergarten/Round Table society post-colonialist Anglo-American "stealth" empire and has been since the Great Rapprochement in the late 19th century. It was decided by this round table society that militarily occupying the shitskin nations of the world and doing the governance of their homelands for them was more trouble than it was worth, so it was better to control them economically and culturally (Drink Coke! Its okay to be Gay! Black Lives Matter! Saint Floyd!)If you ever studied history in school and asked how we went from enemies with the British during the revolution to stripping naked and sharing a bunk with them after the civil war and fighting their battles against Spain, China, Germany, Russia, et al, remember none of your teachers could ever explain it to you, they just shrugged because it's not in the curriculum. Now you know.
>>524677432Patton agreed. And they killed him for saying it. Because the entirety of western Europe would have followed him they revered his work ethic that much, and had heard enough rumors of the communist punishment on Germany to know they would destroy all of Europe if they could. Look at them go.
>>524677297Incidentally, the reason the Soviet's entry into the war was such a big deal was that the main force of the Japanese Army was stationed in China, not on Pacific islands. The equipment of the Kwantung Army in Manchukuo, which was supposed to contain the Soviet, was becoming outdated and had been significantly weakened by transfers to other fronts.If the main force of the Japanese Army were suddenly lost in an unexpected war with the Soviet (including hopeful projections), there was the fear of Japan's future communization.It's not widely known, but the Japanese Communist Party, which still exists today, had a period in thewhen it attempted to instigate an armed revolution in Japan under the instructions of Liu Shaoqi of the CCP and the Soviet in the 1950s.In postwar Japanese politics, the LDP took money from the CIA, its rival Japanese Socialist Party took money from the KGB, and the Japanese Communist Party were faithful adherents of Marxism-Leninism. The New Left embraced Maoism, and these defeated scumbags achieved their Japanese Long March through institutions. It have been fucking fake and gay. They should have fought to the death.
>>524677952Then why is the first priority in every communist revolution the murder of the catholic clergy then?
>>524678181Didn't a bunch of those commie retards get killed and arrested in the 70s?
>>524677500>couldnt care as long as I didnt pay for shitYou had a sugar mommy and your bitching she didn't respect you enough to not cheat on you? Anon, you didn't respect yourself enough for her to not cheat on you. And that shit obviously hasn't changed.
>>524678216because the catholic clergy are homosexuals and communists always kill homosexuals once they take power. communists are basically just catholics without the homosexuality.
>>524677902Can they find out now? They've fucked around enough.You can't say something that fucking retarded and not follow through, (((American))).
yes. nips are too uppity, even now.
>>524678268They are boomer intellectuals, while a cult-like minority chose that path, the majority opted to infiltrate private companies and government agencies.Now aged, they have unmasked themselves, cursing the Japanese society that rejected their ideals while fawning over gaijins. The denial of Japan's unique value system following defeat and the worship of foreign cultures have produced such pitiful creatures.
>>524678098yeah the kikes murdered him because he was based
>>524677952I've begun to recognize every single anti catholic poster here as a kike. Catholicism is dead for the white man. The only reason you hook nose child mutilating pedophiles keep kicking the name around is because of your gloating parasitic hubris, and I'm not going to be very surprised when you manage to revitalize catholicism because of your abhorrent nature. For Christ sakes your incessant shilling has a skinny Mexican faggot looking like an icon right now. You fucking idiots never learn.
>>524678181Anyone ever find it weird how the Kwantung Army never fought a single battle against the US yet they were the ones that were reverse coursed into every major office in politics, finance, media, etc. in the 1950s?
>>524677667Ha, good pic.I agree the US should not have entered the Western Civilization Civil War, part a or part b.There's this nagging part of me tho. Say Germany won. Say the Soviets won. Strategic balance is real. Financial dominance is real. Dollar doesn't become the global currency. Maybe the Mark or Ruble could sanction the US. As zogged as we are, maybe it was necessary. Or maybe we should have done it and then de-zogged.
>>524673929Could you have gotten on a landing craft and shot at men, women, and children rushing at you with suicide charges and spears tipped with land mines? You want to talk about inhuman look to the history of mankind, fuck look to the history of your own nation. Don’t bitch about war and cry that shit gets awful. War is awful it’s just the way things are.
>>524678599>Catholicism is dead for the white man.yeah because its a shitskin beaner goblin religion.>For Christ sakes your incessant shilling has a skinny Mexican faggot looking like an icon right now.kikes are the ones who are shilling that civic nationalist mutt. if you think anything surrounding that faggot is organic than you are braindead.
>>524677432They WANTED a Cold War. >>524676917You underestimate the degree to which the Soviet Union was reliant on the US for support even going back to the revolution.The US and USSR were supposed to be a thesis and antithesis that after the cold war would lead to a unified synthesis one-world government.
>>524678505Oh, yeah, you have to cull those subhumans with no remorse. We are attempting to forcibly remove our own infestation.
>>524675892>leaving the EoJ no option but to attackThere was the option not to attack? What obligation did we have to give them oil!?
>>524674608>Japanese empire would have continuedGood. Fuck China, fuck SEA monkeys and fuck America.
>>524678803>They WANTED a Cold War.yes which is why they killed patton and refused to do anything that macarthur told them to do.
>>524672195Two weren't enough
>>524678754Why are you bringing it up then? Who the Fuck talks about catholicism other than kikes, because oh i don't know who evicted the parasites the majority of the 109 times? If your going to make fun of Christ then you go after Christians, but to go after catholics instead of the Mormons?Your parents pay a pedophile to mutilate you?That would explain a lot around here.
It was at the time perceived as necessary in order to to put Japan in its place, which is sufficient
>>524678867Fuck you and fuck your entire family, you subhuman, unholy, abbo-kangaroo mongrel.
>>524674215Dream planet
>>524672195I remember reading here the reasoning was to end the war quickly and force an immediate surrender with overwhelming power so as to avoid giving the soviets an opportunity to capture and occupy territory but i can't recall if that's just anons pulling stuff out their ass theorizing or if there was actual communications and memoirs and such supporting it.>>524672758>using weeb as an insult on 4chanHe doesn't know. Lol.
>>524678940>Why are you bringing it up then?i didnt bring it up, the beaner goblin crying about america nuking catholics brought it up. its a shame we didnt nuke more catholics, hopefully we will do it again. the best way to fix south america would be with the widespread use of nukes.>Who the Fuck talks about catholicism other than kikes, because oh i don't know who evicted the parasites the majority of the 109 times?catholics were the ones protecting kikes from being genocided, the only reason kikes even exist is because the catholic church gave them control over all banking for 2000 years and gave them special protection. like half of the popes were literally jews lmao.
>>524673653They were hesitant to surrender because they thought they could get a better deal from the Soviets knocking at their door. Once Russia invaded Manchuria, it became clear that they weren’t coming with a better deal. Even with that and even with the two A-bombs, Japan had to squash a coup that wanted to continue the war. Even private correspondence among Truman and his generals revealed that they weren’t sure Japan would surrender.
>>524677824I don't see how regime change isn't a plan unless USA expects a peaceful negotiation in Taiwan or a limited conflict. But dominance without hegemony is a noble step, it allows a lot of different regional alliances. Either way, this is what would have happened anyway in the Pacific, so that's why nuking Japan was a long term mistake: if you're going to work with conceding more autonomy to asian civilizations, you yourself can't be too foreign to them. And having Japan being nuked I don't see how that gives any legitimacy to you as much as the economical systems allign and so on
>>524678638America is completely capable of being self-reliant and self-sustaining. Everything we could possibly want is accessible within our own currently existing geographic boundaries. And remember, THIS is the Empire telling you what the evil dastardly imperialist hun Germans really really wanted.You know Goebbel's famous saying about accusing the other side of what you're doing?>The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even today, large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing the facts, and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about German soldiers chopping off children’s hands and crucifying women to realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGxAYeeyoIc&t=52s
>>524672195>Was this REAL?
>>524679157They aren't about to throw their lot in with the chinks, that means they align more closely with us. We were under zero obligation to fuel and supply a barbaric Imperial Japanese war effort even by the standards of the time. They, being utterly delusional and entitled at the time, believed they could slaughter their way across Asia without consequence. We were forced to teach them the error of their ways. It would have been better if it did not happen, but they are far, far less useless and retarded than Germany.
>>524679345
>Surrender"no"*1 bomb later*>Surrender"no"*1 more bomb*>Surrender"no">Emperor grabs the microphone, unprecedented"actually yes we surrender"As shrimple as that.
>>524679157>>524679394Also, the chinks can bring up japanese war crimes just as the japanese themselves can bring up american war crimes. If they join the chinks the japanese will be drug through the mud for their past misdeeds. Hell, South Korea STILL brings that shit up.
>>524679442Yes. My grandfather was one of the first Americans into Hiroshima fter the bomb to do the battle damage assessment. It was absolutely real.Your propaganda isn't. It's typical "We found photos of leveled buildings and then claimed that somebody else said they were from Hiroshima moon-landing flat earth hoax level bullshit mixed with your inability to comprehend what you read, and if I didn't know you were retarded, I'd suspect you were a jew running interference for questioning the post-war era.
>>524679690>Your propaganda isn't.
>>524679394>forcedFuck off, we were financially and militarily supporting the Boslheviks doing the same shit in Russia and doing the same shit ourselves in the Phillipines.
>>524679690You are a lying piece of shit, or your grandfather was, or both.
>>524679719The Moon Landing was tracked by amateur radio operators around the the world. Just because you don't know how things work doesn't mean everybody else is retarded.
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>>524679690uhhh how did the tree survive a nuclear bomb?
>>524679798What about this one?
>>524679809Since your only experience with explosions is watching movies, I can understand your confusion.
>>524679743And that was a mistake, ideally we should have shot every Goddamned communist we found and nuked the Soviets to hell in '46, cutting off supply lines for their European forces before annihilating them.
>>524679802
>>524679845how much firsthand experience do you have with nuclear explosions?
>>524679876
>>524679837Clearly shitskined poos are incapable of making a shit-powered rocket, but the Jews have been trying to debunk the moon landings ever since they were still actively happening because the Goy surpassed them.
>>524679798>The Moon Landing was tracked by amateur radio operators around the the world. Just because you don't know how things work doesn't mean everybody else is retarded.bullshit lets see the receipts
>>524679901How much first hand experience do you have with ANY explosions?
>>524679937The Netherlands were founded by Jews who escaped Spain in 1492.
>>524679933Practice makes perfect, huh?
>>524673653>oh yeah, you can keep your emperor lols">Like... If we fucking knew that we would have surrendered a year or two earlier. It's insane.not really you gook jap faggotComrade Stalin was about to take your whole shithole island
>>524672195It was more humane than continued fire bombing.
>>524679929
>>524678838FDR admin successfully baited the Japs into it. They engineered an aggressive response, saw it coming, and let it happen. They needed an attack on the US to sway public opinion.You could argue it was a shrewd move. The world's navies were exhaused in the European theatre and we were pretty assured of victory and ruling the world, which is what happened. Well, except for the whole zog thing.
>>524679096Yes this is the correct and only answer. Also why Normandy landings happened, to keep Soviets from taking over Germany and France.
>>524679973yepand I got a BGC what are you going to do about it
>>524679952enough to understand that trees explode and the pics of hiroshima and nagasaki look like the aftermath of firebombing rather than a nuclear weapon.
>>524672195>Was this REALLY necessary?No, and when you read from the statements made by the officials in charge of this, they all said it wasn't necessary and that they just wanted to destroy a bunch of people. Japan was already defeated, ZOG just wanted to try out their new toy. That's how evil this nation is.
>>524680027
It was more of a test. The reason the bomb was banned wasn’t because of the number of dead, it’s because it melts your fucking skin off. They wanted to see what buildings it could really deal with as well, which turned out to be anything but good concrete. We have actually used bigger bombs in wars since then, but not nukes because again, they melt your skin off which is pretty fucked up.
>>524672758No, you judge them based off of Jewish propaganda history books.
>>524679933>e Jews have been trying to debunk the moon landings ever since they were still actively happening because the Goy surpassed them.shalom rabbi
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>>524680033America’s success today is mainly from winning ww1 and ww2, and that was 90% just waiting for countries to kill each other until they are exhausted and then coming in and scoping everything up.Now the US can’t do this and it’s a straight decline down.
If nukes are justified to end a war and more casualties should Russia nuke Ukraine?
>>524680186
>>524679983>Recreated a diorama of the landing site for a world's fair that the whole world could visit and see for themselves in September 1969 [read the text on your own picture], three months after the moon landing shows that they secretly faked the moon landing.>This is proof of somethingI'm out. Retards, kikes and poos are out in force today.Anybody who was curious about what I was talking about with the actual new world order post 1945 - 1992 before the retard brigade showed up and look up Antony Sutton and Carroll Quigley, maybe take a start right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG7lG0ggHckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9B3cilgHYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nak-5nwL2Lk
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>>524680186what book is this nigger?
>>524680229>Retards, kikes and poos are out in force today.Of which, you are one.
>>524680027>Japanese propaganda to cover up the bombingIt's really well known they did this domestic propaganda effort this because they didnt send in anybody to help in the aftermath of the bombing for over a week, which is what led to all the radiation poisoning deaths from people going back to their lives in the fallout.
>>524680254>niggerSheeit, Massa!How I suppose to know dat?!
There is no room for 'space' in creation.God made plants (green, leafy things) before He placed the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament (note not space-a-ment).
>>524673653Hi gaijin-sanWhen do you go back to your nice country?
>>524680413Satan and his synagogue NEED you to believe their lies, so that you will not question the things that occur in the following days.Project Blue Beam is not to help you understand the love of aliens. It is to decieve you into believing that fallen angels/demons/gods of old are your friends.
>>524680306SHIIHaw U b readin all dat so gud?
>>524680450>When do you go back to your nice country?Please, don't send them back. I'm sure you can find a way to help all the people of the world in their removal.There is a general consensus on how to treat foreign infiltrators who spy for their masters.
>>524680514I stoled off da internets!
>>524679394That's true and honest. But thank God Brazil can just exist, just observing things. Imagine having to worry about all this 4D chess where even the past keeps gaining new meaning due to historical inertia and huge death tolls and old civilizations and all that. Maybe the average american is wise in just turning off their brain
>>524680477All have a date with death.The question is, do you have anything scheduled after that?Most people's appointments are in the near future.Plan accordingly.
>>524679204Just saying the way we played it (I'm American) we came out on top and have been bullying the rest of the world through military and financial dominance ever since, including plenty of resource rich countries. It's not inconceivable that the same thing could have happened to us.But I hate neocon arguments like the one I'm fucking making. The most interesting and likely alternative timeline for me is a Reich EU. How that balances with us, a USSR (no lend lease, no war), and an EoJ, idk. It's not a unipolar world like we pretty much had, but look where that's led to now.
>>524676829>boiled skulls.LOL my grandpap's brother was a pacific marine. the japs captured him on tarawa after his hip was shattered by an artillery shell explosion. those zipperhead fucks tortured him and his friends for months. when he was finally released, he bribed his way back to shore from the hospital ship and found his old unit. they were trying to send him home. but he had to get his revenge.He killed so many of those fucks that they gave him his own squad and made him sergeant.He mailed back home at least a dozen jap skulls and swords that he collected to his friends and family. I wish I had one of the skulls. I need to get in touch with his kids and see if I can get one of them.the jap soldiers were monsters. they should have glassed that whole island chain.the japs deserved so much more than what they got.
>>524672195ABSOLUTELYIf it wasn't it would not have happened. In a world of cause and effect everything that happens, without exception, happens necessarily. The mere fact that something happened proves that it had to.
>>524680514I gots one fo' you too, Massa!
>>524680813They were just following orders brah
