Trump’s Attack on Birthright Citizenship Seeks to Further Codify White SupremacyA Supreme Court case that could potentially undo and restrict citizenship rights shows that the border is everywhere.https://archive.is/vCFnq
>You have an OBLIGATION to let me live in your country
The Trump administration’s initiative to undo and restrict existing rights to citizenship aims to perpetuate the demographic effects of Trump 2.0’s overall weaponization and normalization of an overtly white supremacist reframing of immigration and border policy.The intended result is a kind of extreme civic exclusion imposed on racially and ethnically targeted, policed, and subordinated immigrant communities relegated to the kind of permanent second class status or “social death” envisioned for Black Americans in the majority’s ruling in Dred Scott. The underlying political and ideological goal is to combine the ongoing practices of racially and ethnically targeted mass detention and mass deportation, such as the raids we have seen on the streets of cities across the country, with racial and ethnic engineering to limit who is entitled to citizenship, voting, and representation, and ultimately to “social membership” in the broadest sense. Trump has normalized the kind of militarization of immigration enforcement which has long been accepted as a standard practice in the U.S.-Mexico border region, extending the border together with the Border Patrol and its historic, ingrained violence and abuses throughout the country. The administration has further coupled these moves with a convergent series of measures to restrict the rights of permanent residents (non-citizens with green cards, people holding student and work visas, etc.), and of refugees and asylum seekers.
The T Admins policies and practices of mass detention and mass deportation echo past abuses at the same time as they normalize new forms of persecution, cruelty, and terror against migrant families, communities, and countries of origin. These measures constitute an essential component of the overall weave of MAGA’s version of neo-fascist authoritarianism (or “late fascism”) that has undermined the rule of law within the U.S., driven by militarism, nationalism, and supposed “populism” grounded in racism, hatred, and xenophobia.Their concrete expressions include the proliferation of militarized, inhumane detention camps characterized by conditions equivalent to torture in settings such as the Everglades (“Alligator Alcatraz”), Fort Bliss (“Camp East Montana”), and beyond U.S. borders in settings such as Guantánamo Bay, on illegally occupied Cuban national territory.This overall archipelago of Trumpian terror also includes systematic, recurrent patterns of forced disappearances and torture through third country deportations to settings such as CECOT in El Salvador and complicity in persecution and terror against migrants in contexts ranging from Mexico, Panama, Costa Rica, and Peru to Eswatini, Djibouti, South Sudan, Rwanda, and Ghana, as well as the racist targeting and collective punishment of Afghan, Somali, and Haitian migrants and communities and of their countries of origin.
This immigration policing is the other side of the coin of the rekindled imperialist interventionism that has become rampant in contexts such as the illegal airstrikes on boats in the Caribbean and Pacific, the potentially imminent threats of intervention against Venezuela and Colombia, and ongoing U.S intervention in the Honduran elections.This is a historical moment that shares important political, ethical, and spiritual dimensions with previous eras when illegitimate forms of power had to be challenged by people of good will as a duty of collective, conscientious citizenship on a local, national, and global scale.
>>524673340>Under the jurisdiction thereofThat phrase means the children of illegal immigrants are not automatically born citizens if they are born in the US. Think about it, if a person is a legal immigrant, as in the US gave permission for them to enter our country, then they would be under the jurisdiction thereof while they are here. But if someone sneaks into the country illegally and stays off the governments radar until they pop out a kid, at no point were they under the jurisdiction thereof, so the kid is not a citizen.
>>524673340good.
you forgot about FBA you fucking racist
>>524673340Why should some chink be able to fly over for a few days pop out a kid and that kid is an American citizen? They do that shit here.
There is no such thing as citizenship without consent. In the same way that an American citizen cannot declare himself a French citizen and vote in French elections without consent from the French government, a foreign national cannot declare himself a U.S. citizen without consent.Citizenship in a Constitutional Federal Republic means holding equal political power over the collective decisions. That is something only existing citizens hold the right to offer to others, something which must be decided through elections and the lawmaking process.The court's ruling in Elk v. Wilkins in 1884 - just 16 years after the ratification of the 14th Amendment -endorses "the principle that no one can become a citizen of a nation without its consent." By making entry into the United States without approval a federal offense, Congress has effectively denied that consent.I argue that the 14th Amendment does not provide this consent. Instead it sets a limitation. To the authors of the 14th Amendment, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" conveyed a limit to natural citizenship grounded in mutual allegiance. That means if people are free to deny their old national allegiance, and an independent nation is free to decide its own membership, the recognition of a new national identity must be mutual.Immigrants living in the United States illegally have not accepted the sovereignty of the nation's laws. On the other side of the coin, the government has not officially accepted them as residents under its protection.The ruling made by SCOTUS in Wong Kim Ark further reinforces this interpretation of the 14th Amendment in that the court only considered Permanent Legal Residents like Wong Kim Ark's parents, but not residents here illegally or temporarily.This is a landmark case and will have a bigger impact on America's demographics than even Hart-Celler.The media doesn't want to talk about it because they are TERRIFIED by it
>>524674049>racial and ethnic engineeringWhen the ruling class does 7 decades of social engineering to completely change the demographic make-up of the country, over the heads of the citizenry, bullshitting and lying about it every step of the way, and never subjecting it to a vote because they know it would obviously be overwhelmingly rejected, that's actually brave and powerful and progress and the triumph of democracy and Our Values™. But if the citizenry tries to undo any of that in any way, that's Literally Hitler and fascism and the end of democracy at the hands of "populism", so in order to save democracy and Our Values™ we need to make sure that power is handed back over to the technocratic cosmopolitan elite, our best and brightest (Greek word: aristos) who know what's good for the people (demos) better than they do
Birthright citizenship is bullshit that existed to quickly pump up the numbers in states and should have been abolished the moment the states were able to exist on their own. Whites who refuse to review their stupid ancient laws get screwed by it still existing.
>>524674369>Under the jurisdiction thereof>implying illegal spics aren't under US jurisdictionYou're actually fucking retarded, the whole point you're arguing is moot because if they were "outside of US jurisdiction" you wouldn't have any legal justification to deport them due to a distinct lack of jurisdiction by the courts.Anyone living in the US is subject to US laws, the only exception being foreign diplomats who have diplomatic immunity and therefore, not subject to our laws. which you probably already know, but are a faggot parroting talking points.
>>524673340He nor his administration are radical enough when it comes to immigration, not even close. Weak sauce, even.
>>524675072WRONGsee here>>524674707
>>524674996Well-said
Shitskins being allowed to break the law and kill//replace white people=defeating racism
>>524673340>trump's white supremacy
>>524675072>Anyone living in the US is subject to US laws, the only exception being foreign diplomats who have diplomatic immunity and therefore, not subject to our laws. which you probably already know, but are a faggot parroting talking points.The people who framed it already have notes regarding this from the 1860s that btfo you, but I'm going to tell you- you will either go back peacefully or all your spiclets will go back in bodybags. There is not scenario where you stay in my country, shitskin. It just depends on how much you're willing to lose before you leave.
>>524674707>This is a landmark case and will have a bigger impact on America's demographics than even Hart-Celler.The funny thing is you don't even need to deport all the anchor babies. Merely removing illegal citizenship for future illegals, and deporting all illegals/jeets here legally but unwanted shifts demographics back to around 70% whiteoid, while birthrates also shift to be around 70% whiteoid.The sheer amount of policies and force and outright lawbreaking required to change american demograpy is what is at play here.
>>524675072The civil rights act of 1866 is the legislative foundation for the 14th amendment. As you can see if you click the link below it clearly states that “all persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”https://loveman.sdsu.edu/docs/1866FirstCivilRightsAct.pdfJurisdiction does not mean what you think it means.
>>524674327Pretty neat. A good solid platform for the midterms then.
>>524675489>and not subject to any foreign power
>>524675072>implying illegal spics aren't under US jurisdictionNot when they sneak in and stay hidden until they pop out a kid. Sure, once they are caught they fall under US jurisdiction, but before that as long as they are off the government radar they are yet to be under the jurisdiction thereof. They never got permission to enter so the government is not aware they are here.
what is even the argument for birthright?
>>524674707>citizenship without consent Consent works both ways, anon. (Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of "government" becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it... etc.) Citizenship without consent is slavery.
>>524675687RAYCISSS!!!RAYCISSSSSS!!!!!!!RAYYYYYYYYYCCIIIISSSSSS!!!!!!YA'LLL BEE RAYYYCCISSSSS!!!!!
>>524675613If they are not US citizens, and not from a native American tribe then they are subjects of a foreign power. A German visiting from Germany does not suddenly give up German citizenship as soon as they step foot in the US. So they would be the subject of a foreign power.
>>524675687Blank slate ideology and magic soil rationale.
>>524673340Here is the original quote, from Senator Jacob Howard. Referring to the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, he says:>This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.Anyone arguing that birthright citizenship includes illegals in here admits they're a pedophile.
>>524675747Kamala Harris, for example, was a subject of Jamaica and India at the time of her birth.
>>524675747Correct, and by Congress making illegal entry into the US a federal crime they have effectively denied consent for that person to be within US territory in the first place thus they are NOT subject to the jurisdiction thereof the United States of America.
MORE LIKE JEWISH SUPREMACY
>>524675747>then they are subjects of a foreign powerNot necessarily. They could be stateless. (Though this is not the case for most people.)
>>524675939In the case of statelessness SCOTUS ruled in 2025 that those who are "Stateless" can be deported to third party countries.
>>524674327Letting endless hordes of illegal immigrants into the nation and creating endless waves of anchor children is not an option. It creates a humanitarian issue which. One part of it is the detainment problem (“kids in cages”). Another is the matter of people working with criminal organizations in order to get entry into the country, and then you have the matter of familial separation. It’s an issue that creates the perfect pity situation but the people that are pushing for looser immigration laws or God forbid fucking open borders are just as much to blame as the people kicking them out. What nation in the history of mankind has ever let in a foreign population and not asked them to abide by their ways and assimilate? And when has the situation where they didn’t ended well for the host nation? This isn’t some kind of hyper fascist rant, it’s just common sense in regards to not letting foreigners take over. And you want to say it’s deserved or revenge for past crimes or colonialism then you’re admitting that this is in fact an effort to take over and replace. The sad part is that the government is standing in the way of people actually doing shit.
>>524675852The only issue for Kamala is that her parents had permission to be in the US at the time of her birth so they were under the jurisdiction thereof at that time. They were here under student visas when they met, and then became professors so they would need work visas to be here. As long as they didn't commit visa fraud then Harris would be a citizen at birth.
Ever since they've been attacking "white supremacy" it seems like everyones quality of life has plummeted and the middle class has been obliterated...hmmmm curious
>>524676107>Harris would be a citizen at birth.She was still subject to the jurisdiction of India and Jamaica at birth nullifying her anchor baby status, ab initio.
>>524676035Thanks, anon.
>>524673340Oh look, Trump is doing exactly what grifters like Fuentes wanted but you'll never hear him mention this. Curious it's almost like he's paid to not notice
>>524676179When Occupy Wall Street got popular and people began looking at things though the lens of class, the top 1% (disproportionately jews) began pushing identity politics to divide the working class. Of course the so called working class party the democrats took the bait and went all in on race/sex/gender bullshit alienating people who would have been their allies on class issues. Now we know a color blind society is impossible, and non-whites only want power over white people, not equality.
>>524676211Supreme Court has already ruled that children of non-citizens who are here legally are citizens. Since her parents had permission to be here, she would count as a citizen by that ruling. I don't like it, but the wording of the amendment allows it.
>>524676107>>524676547Incorrect because all of those are Temporary VisasOnly those with Permanent Resident Status are protected under the 14th Amendment as was ruled in Wong Kim Ark by SCOTUS.
>>524676414But don’t jews run on both sides of that spectrum? On one end you have the corporatists leading to endless stagnation and inflation. And on the other you have the marxists pushing for the death of the current system. I think it’s more that they squandered their moment in not understanding that the average American wants reform, not revolution in regards to the system. They want shit to be fixed not to burn it all down and start again but with marxists. So said marxists realized they needed to fuck up the perception of what an American is and attack the American identity. But all it ended up doing was making people racially conscious (in the way they did not intend)
>>524675628They are subject, as in literal "subjects of", to a foreign power. And so this should never have been an issue.
>>524673340except this applies to whites too.
>>524675466When the Supreme Court makes a decision they don't just say "illegal after this point only" when they declare something illegal that meant it was always illegal it just hasn't always been acknowledged or recognized, and vice versa if legal.If the Supreme Court rules that birthright citizenship is unconstitutional, it wouldn't be a case of saying only those before X date have citizenship if born here everyone else doesn't unless they have a citizen parent, they would be saying that legally that was never the case. Meaning that the anchor babies would be deported too, along with anybody that doesn't have in their lineage an American National/Citizen parent since they would legally never have had that citizenship. It would impact millions of people.Not saying children of illegals should have citizenship here, but that is what the case would be.
>>524676547>an all-white openly “racist” christian supreme court late 1800s said that ching chong anchor babys are citizensThat’s truly grim. Really goes to show how far gone the country was even immediately after the civil war was lost to the North, that even back then “muh niggerinos rights” and feminism movements immediately began to organize and push for today’s globohomo, and the original angle was always “but what would muh rabbi yeshua say”, it was always originally pushed through aboard the train of christianity and its universalist theology. You can actually go back to even the 1700s and see that shit bubbling under the surface in the historical accountings of speeches and debates by politicians.
