Laws aimed at preventing marijuana-impaired driving in almost 20 states are causing innocent people who show no signs of impairment to be criminalized and imprisoned for allegedly operating vehicles while under the influence, a new government-funded study shows.Lawmakers and regulators aiming to reduce drug-impaired driving have long sought to apply a familiar strategy from alcohol enforcement: setting a numerical limit of THC in the bloodstream beyond which a driver is presumed to be impaired, commonly referred to as a “per se” amount.But the new study suggests that approach may be badly misaligned with the science related to impairment from cannabis, the components and metabolites of which can remain in the body day or weeks after use—when impairment is no longer an issue.“Many regular users of cannabis exceed zero tolerance and per se THC cutpoint concentrations days after their last use, risking legal consequences despite no evidence of impairment,” the study, which was published in the scientific journal Clinical Chemistry and partially funded by the National Institutes of Health and the State of California, found.The findings echo earlier research showing weak or inconsistent links between THC blood levels and crash risk. Large epidemiological studies have found that while marijuana use may slightly increase collision risk, the effect is far smaller than that of alcohol use.“One of the primary problems with using THC concentrations in per se legislation is that the pharmacokinetics of THC are much different from ethanol,” the researchers wrote.The authors noted that alcohol generally cannot be detected 1 to 2 days after last ingestion, whereas THC can be measured up to 30 days after last use because of its lipophilic nature.>https://www.marijuanamoment.net/marijuana-users-are-being-unjustly-jailed-for-allegedly-driving-under-the-influence-government-funded-study-shows/
i've got a good test...see if he's got the MUNCHIES BRO LMAOOOOOOOO
>>524676293Cannabis has high amounts of tolerance. A seasoned user can consume much more than a light smoker.
>>524676293It is something absurd like 40% of fatal car accidents involve someone high on marijuana. They clearly don't enforce it enough.
>>524676293Yeah this gets solved by making it completely legal to drive while high, period.
I was, >18 years old>Driving my moped down main street>Midnight>Run a red light>Unsure if I did>Cop thinks I'm high>Im not>Takes my blood>.002 or something, miniscule amount>Have to plead>Do probation>Drug tests for 2 years>Drug alcohol classesHuge racket absolutely fuck them, fuck most people honestly, sick faggots, crooked ass small town fucking shithole fucking rotting
>>524676468Yeah so it's impossible for them to call someone impaired, they don't know their tolerance level.
>>524676601>Huge racket absolutely fuck them, fuck most people honestly, sick faggots, It really is, it's governments ways of making money and so they've become oppressive with it. They WANT YOU to be an alcoholic/addict because that's how they make the most money off you.
>>524676630Yup. It presents a real challenge if you want to see if someone is impaired. Take eyedrops, vape, and there is no way to guaranteed tell a cannabis user is impaired. Cannabis also stinks. A sober driver can have a friend who smells like weed and stinks up the car.
>>524676565>40% of car accidents involved someone who used THC in the past 30 daysFixed.
>>524676358The cop should pull up with a fat bong rip loaded and fucking blast it all right into the driver and then arrest him for DUI immediately.
>>524676293Just fucking drive sober. How hard is it to not do drugs or drink, and then drive. You can either do drugs and drink all day. Or you can drive a vehicle that day. One or the other. It’s not fucking hard.
>>524676293throw potheads in the meatgrinderweed is a degenerate nigger drug
>>524676931George Washington smoked weed.
>>524676293Just stop smoking a nigger drug or enjoy your prison time.
>>524676719Yeah they get niggers stuck in permanent probation and have them keep going to drug addiction classes which are funded from state tax money. Theres a whole ecosystem of parasite companies that milk the tax money from all these programs. They almost got me before, I was "evaluated" and I lied to the chick that it was my first time drinking and she basically told me that they have to try to put everyone into the classes / programs even if they dont have problems. They were trying to get me in until they realized I have no health insurance, not even through the free state plans, so they would have a hard time getting someone to cough up thousands for some bullshit. I think that 99% of the people they usually deal with are the dregs of society so theyre all on free state Healthcare which they milk.
>>524676998Alexander the great smoked opium in his tent during war campaigns.
>>524676998So does my retarded cousin who lives in the basementthey have so much in common
>>524676719>>524677071Perhaps the political issue here needs to be shutting down these addict-rackets.
>>524676293You need to develop something that can tell if you are high right then.The problem with weed tests is they work for like a week after you last smoked, this is something that doesnt happen with alcohol.You need some sort of breathaliser or something that can determine in the same way as alcohol if you are currently under the influence.
>>524676927Not at all hard to drive while smoking a joint, faggot.
>>524677344One can tell by seeing signs of dehydration and the mouth/nose showing signs. Gummies would show different signs though.
>>524676293Good. Weedniggers don’t deserve nice things. They deserve a buss pass and a beating.
>>524676590Yeah it does not affect your driving ability one bit. I don't know about nonwhites but I think most laws should be separated by race. For example, the blood/alc limit should be slightly higher for whites.Weed driving should be legal for whites.Etc
>>524677071sounds about right.>>524677194decriminalize all drug possession and 90% of cop bullshit goes away. >don't you know drugs ruin lives? I'm going to ruin your life to prove how bad they are!
>>524677360I was able to pull my car to the side as I was hallucinating from one of my first highs. Experienced buddy took over the wheel.
Professional pot smoker here listen upWeed does kind of affect you even 12-24 hours after a big smoke session. Not to the extent that alcohol does but you can still feel the effects long after it’s supposedly passed it’s psycho effective window.
>>524677439I have exceptionally low tolerances for all drugs. Last time I smoked weed patterns were blowing up in my face. Alcohol knocks me out. So no, not all of us should be driving around stoned. Maybe just a normal sobriety test and treat it like you'd treat a diabetic who got off their meds and isn't good to drive.
>>524676927>Just fucking drive sober. How hard is it to not do drugs or drink, and then driveThat's the point. Cannabis stays in the body for around 30 days, up to 60+ in heavy users, AFTER the last use. You could have smoked your last joint a week ago and still get a DUI under this law.
>>524677452>decriminalize all drug possession and 90% of cop bullshit goes away.>don't you know drugs ruin lives? I'm going to ruin your life to prove how bad they are!Yeah it is that simple and it's created the problems it pretend to solve.
>>524677360Like I said. One or the other. Don’t care which you choose. But one or the other.Nigger.
>>524677569Reddit faggot.
>>52467756914 year old hands typed this
>>524676293>6 states in the United States have per se laws using 2 or 5 ng/mL of THC as the cut-off point for driving under the influence of cannabis, while 12 have a zero-tolerance lawTLDR; screencap
>>524677721>>524677741
>>524676293Man, that's some bullshit. There is nothing that impairs you to the point you can't drive, those were all bad drivers that would have crashed even if they were sober. Kike stooges trying to take our true medicine from us.
>>524676771So it is probably just a correlation of people willing to smoke pot and people who are more likely to take risks behind the wheel. Likely caused by an underlying risk tolerance as opposed to a drug induced behavior. I bet people willing to cliff dive or surf big waves are probably also more likely to get in accidents.
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>>524676771On average they had 15x the legal limit of active THC in their blood. This is an amount that you can only reach if you smoke right before (or during) driving.Even if your statement were true, given that only 15% of American adults smoke pot, this would mean pot smokers are 3x over represented in fatal car accidents.
>>524678011I was a single issue voter with regards to marijuana legalization for a while. Don’t drive high if you can avoid it. It’s not as bad as drunk driving but it’s still not a good idea.
>>524676293They probably need to consider tolerance. For example if I were to smoke weed, in 30-40 minutes I wouldn't be high anymore. There is a vanishingly small window where I might be impaired. And it can be argued that people on marijuana drive more careful and slower than people who do not smoke marijuana. The government never wants to admit to that sort of thing because at the end of the day these are just money generating mechanisms. The government shakes people down for committing victimless crimes and steals money from them to sustain itself in a parasitic relationship. Blood sucking parasites want your money and this is just the excuse to take it.
>>524678011Pretty much. People who are inexperienced with weed shouldn't talk about it or make laws about it either.
>>524676293Potheads shouldn't be driving at all.
>>524678197Tolerance is bullshit dealers give you reduced thc weed and you think it’s just tolerance They call it a trap house for a reason
>>524677802>zero tolerance standardlmao>>524678114You have no idea how high THC tolerance gets. People smoke 60-80% THC concentrates.>>524678197Yup that's why smoking is convenient. You can sober up fast.>>524678270retard tier take
>>524678223Is driving a semi truck ok for potheads...asking for a friend
>>524677126So do I, weird.
>>524678223Why not though? I have a perfect driving record. I'm probably a way better driver than you. I could probably be a race car driver. I know lots of people in racing sports and drifting who smoke a ton of weed. It really doesn't impair people at all. A real stoner actually has extremely high tolerance. You can tell it's having diminishing returns because real stoners smoke all day every day, and it does less and less.
>>524678223Why not? I am always stoned and I drive fine
>>524678311>retard tier takeNervous dealer that I’m spilling industry secrets
>>524678223I trust White potheads driving over brown immigrants though.
>>524678223Underperforming people don't get to make the rules.
>>524678311I have smoked pot before and know exactly how tolerance works. You can make the same argument for opiates. You're just a coping burnout.
>>524677569>a big smoke session
>>524677661Sober people get charged with DUI all the time.
>>524678404weed is lab tested>>524678474I work full time retard
>>524678361Swim did it for years.
>>524678684I guess having a job is a big accomplishment for a burnout.
>>524676293So don't smoke a month before driving then, simple solution
>>524678856>burnoutNobody uses this word anymore. Either your a out of touch loser or 80 years old.
>>524678214Alcohol too. Every substance is safe.
>>524676293I always wondered how that worked, thanks anon for the informed post!
>>524678856If I'm a manager does that make me not a burnout?>>524678923He gives me boomer vibes lol.
>>524678928I have no issues driving drunk. Try not being a loser.
>>524678951Wrong board miss bury
When im stoned and driving im like extremely cautious.Drunk driving is 160 mph sport bike time
>>524676293Ive often wondered about those regular sobriety tests, does anyone ever pass the tests and they say "Ok. carry on"?
>>524676293>Being Unjustly Jailed For Allegedly Driving Under The Influence>unjustlywhy are they getting pulled over and tested in the first place?
>>524677126Nothing beats the silky high of opium after a day of slaughtering your enemies. I suggest you try it
>>524676565How many of them were black? Those ones were likely still high.
>>524676293If you take a driving test while high as a kite or drunk as a skunk, and pass, you should have that limit added to your licence.
>>524678899Because they can't test for recent use. Drive normal for a month when you are off the pot, dipshits! I rarely get pulled over and never required to take a drug test from the cops. OP is either a niggerbeaner speeder or can't pass a sobriety test "sober".
>>524677126ip man smoked opium after punching a guy's nose thirty times in five seconds
>>524676468>>524676358>>524676293Why isn't nicotine driving banned?
>>524679177People get pulled over for traffic violations. I guess if the cop sees red eyes or smells weed he's gonna say it's driving under the influence. Which is totally bullshit. You don't have to be high to commit traffic violations.
>>524678923Sorry, man. I'll try to use more zoomer slang.>>524678985Managing a gas station isn't a brag either.
>>524676293>because of its lipophilicIt's discriminatory against fat people.Why have no Jew lawyers used this?They could be rich!
>>524679177car smells because someone smoked a joint in it a week agocop says they're impaired because they have glossy eyesthey get piss tested and test positive because thc stays in system for 30 days>book em DannoIt happens in some states
>>524679433oh I forgot to say pulled over for random traffic stop or even going through dui check point
>>524679331>zoomer slangIt's worse than that, I'm a millennial.>>524679433Yeah I never got a job in criminal justice for a reason. Totally fucking innocent people over on a daily basis.
>>524679191No idea, nignogs make up ~17% of fatal car accidents so they are barely over represented compared to pot smokers. Even if every yard ape who was in a fatal car accident was high, that would still leave the majority of pot smokers in fatal drug accidents as not black.
>>524679177The cop made up a traffic violation and wants to shake him down for extortion fees.>>524679433"It smells like weed" is always a huge pretext for an illegal search.
>be under the influence of marijuana/alcohol>dumb enough to use it in the first place>have the money to waste on the Herbal Jew/Liquid Jew>go driving after use>crash your car in to someone else/object >be dumb enough to get butthurt and whine about " but muh legalization" and finesAnyone who drinks/uses marijuana then puts themselves behind a machine designed to move faster than 40mph/86kmh with impairment because 0.08 BAV or 0.02 TBV impairs your ability to drive in the first place. People should never be behind the wheel when impaired, let alone use it because of lack of personal responsibility. You drink/smoke and drive, you kill someone and blame it on "duuuhh not my fault, bruh"stupid as a nigger
>>524677704Hilarious that the faggot who is unable to comprehend a simple article is telling others how to live their lives. Kill yourself retard.
>>524679594Didn't read the OP and is retarded award.
>>524676293Littering and ...?
Shouldn't that be driving above the influence? You know because they are high?
I literally drive better highI’m too afraid to gas it, lmaoI look over and I’m ten under the speed limit like oh fuck
>>524679594indeed
>>524679594In reality being high doesn't impair your ability to drive. Unless you're hallucinating, which is extremely rare for weed. Doesn't make any sense.
>>524676293Driving impaired is the only and best way to drive. If you can’t operate a machine after a couple beers or a rip, you are nigger tier retard and should not be allowed to drive or operate a machine at all. Name one negative aspect to driving impaired, and you can’t if you have ever done so yourself. Not gunna make it.
>>524679126Just say the alphabet backwards.
>>524679201I smoked a little weed before I passed the CDL roadtest.
If you can pass a field sobriety test that should be proof enough that you're not impaired. Having to provide body fluids to the state to prove you're not on drugs is fucking retarded and should only be done if a field sobriety test is failed or refused.Driving impaired is fucked. I don't care if it's alcohol, weed, pills, or sleep deprivation. It should all be punished the same.
Cops just say "I smell marijuana" and then they have the right to arrest you. Pretty pitiful
>>524680206>t.
>>524680009You can smoke a little weed or have a couple beer and not be impaired. If it does not affect your ability to safely operate a vehicle you are by definition not impaired.
Bring back prohibition and put smoking and pot on the list. Drugs are degenerate slop. The USA needs a president Duterte to kill all drug users and dealers. Hunt them down and shoot them all in broad daylight. If you can't live every day sober you don't deserve to live. The only thing I am high on is life.
>>524678270its not 1990 anymore faggot there are dispensaries now you don't have to buy drugs from niggers anymore. even in California any legit distributor wouldn't risk the MASSIVE fines for mislabeling thc content
>>524676293You can't 'unjustly' jail a marijuana user.
>>524680373Why do you insist on doing things that don't work? Perhaps you are crazy?
>>524676468This. It will take them far more weed to achieve the same high. So a dude getting secondhand smoke from a neighbor will probably be easier to arrest than a stoner who smoked a joint.
People only get pulled over and tested if they’re driving erratically. The pot users are already impaired enough that cops can tell they’re impaired by how they’re driving.
>>524676293>AllegedlyShut the fuck up, kike.
>>524678176shut the fuck up pussy
>>524680457The reason it "didn't work" is because the government didn't have the CONVICTION to go all the way. Declare martial law, raid every drug producer and dealer in the country, line them up against the wall and summarily execute them. Afghanistan and Vietnam also failed because of a lack of CONVICTION, even though we could have easily dropped ICBMs to turn their lands into glass and they would have been powerless to stop us. Stop playing a PR game and just do what must be done.
>>524676293you used to think you could like potheads.
>>524680446Yes they can, especially on fake charges like dui
>>524680521I used to get drunk every night just to go drive around town and inna woods after work, had a few interactions with police while absolutely blitzed and never got caught until some roastie whore called me in after trying to buy more alcohol. if you cant drive impaired without killing anyone you're ngmi and should be melded with the flesh cube
>>524680585If you don't like weed just don't smoke it. You can't just dictate what other people can do. I ought to kill you for being subhuman but I let your kind be.>>524680619There's a shit ton of potheads that I don't like. That doesn't make me oppose marijuana.
>>524679768in your twisted fucking reality, you nigger>>524679734I may be a stupid foreigner otaku, but at least I think like a properly raised and respctable human
>>524680842i dont give a shit what you oppose you druggie
>>524676293The va mails me 180g a month. Burgers need to get with the times.
>druggies on suicide watchkek
>>524680752Unironically this. I don't support drunk driving but only the most incompetent crash and then they use the alcohol as an excuse
>>524680959It's "druggo", yankified mong
>>524676601Same. You'll be extorted and blow into your interlock like a good little goy. Fuck rural America legit trying to play moral police with actual police
>>524679126Yes. Once lost my grip on my steering wheel and had to pass the test. It was a very cold night and I was wearing mittens over my driving gloves until my car warmed up enough.
>>524680855>twisted fucking realityRight because you see on the news so many stories about stoners killing people driving like with alcohol. It's simply not an issue. Take your head out of your ass for once.>>524680893Odd how being a druggie hasn't stopped me from being successful at life. What about you tranny?>>524680959>t. NPC
>>524680652Imprisoning wannabe Seth Rogans is not unjust. It is justice to keep all these people out of society.
>>524680970i can be shitfaced all over the road but the millisecond another car is near im back to perfect locked in driving. i only ever did it at night too just to make the chances of some pig pulling me over for a crack in the windshield much lower
>>524677635Very reasonable take
>>524680521>People only get pulled over and tested if they’re driving erratically.Yeah people who are in jewish cults are known for being honest.
>>524676601Lmao I drove operated 2 mile long freight trains over that every single day for yearsNot high at work but blazed heavily after and would probably easily be over that at any timeNever broke anything, never hurt anyone, and I did good work
>>524677635>a normal sobriety testFSTs are completely subjective and failure doesn't indicate impairment, only test failure.
>>524680970That's what makes the argument against high driving even more pathetic. Why settle on laws designed to facilitate incompetence? We need to hold people to a higher standard and if they don't make it well tough luck. You want to ban marijuana and ruin people's lives because of it? Well then have a taste of your own medicine. Would you want laws made to criminalize being a subhuman? You wouldn't think it's fair would you? I tolerate so much crappiness from people and not once do I say, well let me just genocide them. You can do the same for stoners.
>>524681654Based
>>524676468Right, but that doesn't mean to toke up and get into an accident. If your tolerance is high you should be as safe a driver as anyone else, and you shouldn't look stoned af when an officer responds to an accident you caused.
>>524678022All boomers should be off the road. You don't have the vision and see through as much fog as a pot smoker and most likely suffer from some mild dementia.
>>524676293How long has the DEA been researching pot?Sounds more like an unjust agency.What other things have been researched for over 50 years and virtually no progress has been made?
>>524679608Do more drugs. Loser.
>>524676293Because MJ stays in your system for a month. If you took one shot and 10 days later were tested positive for alcohol you would be angry, well weed stays in your system for a month, and in your hair for 3 months. Fuck the (((government))), we should be allowed to get high with whatever we want period.
