Catholicism to me is the most beautiful thing possible. When people ask me what I am, I don't say Republican, Democrat, or even American, I am a CATHOLIC, I am a member of the Royal Family of the Kingdom of God. If you actually read about Catholicism it will change the way you look at life forever.
I am. I wish I had Catholic friends. I did but most of them have lapsed.
Christcucks need to get their religion out of politics
>>524681453I'll join the church for my fiancée since it means a lot to her
>>524681453I'm too white and straight to be Catholic. I'm not into 3rd world immigrants, jesuit covid subversion, or young boys.
>>524682212If you were actually white then you'd be a Catholic. Also, rich nations are Catholic, if you're not a Catholic or from a Catholic family you're a third worlder.
>>524682274> Democrat memeflag shills CatholicismChecks out
>>524681453Not a fan of superstitious rituals.When "holy water" can burn jews then I'll believe in your bronze age cult.
>>524681453Wasn't raised religious. Have looked into a lot of religions, all seem as silly as one another. Catholicism included. You tell us why we should be catholic, how do you know it to be true?
>>524681453I was. Then I read the Bible, the history ofsacraments and the dogmas, as well as syncretism within many apparitions and devotions. It’s bunk. But respectfully I don’t mind your devotion, in a sense I admire it as a virtue but I simultaneously marvel at your lack of sense in seeing the church for what it is, a human institution par excellence. I understand the romanticism and desire to live and believe like our ancestors , but if you analyze it honestly you’ll see it’s all nonsense.
>>524682469>Have looked into a lot of religions,And you don't find Athiesm to be the silliest of them all? It's the only worldview I just find loony.>Why should we be CAtholicPascal's wager, if you believe and are wrong, nothing happens, if you don't believe and are wrong, HELL FOREVER. No rational man would make a bet on infinite pain.>How do you know it to be trueNever claimed I did.>>524682582So how do you reconcile that with "Peter build my Church upon this rock"
>>524681598Politics is downstream from religion, newfag.
>>524681453Because it's fake and gay
>>524682967In the case of catholicism really really really gay. Catholic Clergy are gayer than fucking Provincetown, MA.
>>524681453>>524682274>homosexual cathokike forgot he switched memeflags from another thread he was trolling inNothing like being a two faced rat to show the fruit of the catholic faith
>>524681453>How are you not a Catholic?its a roman psyop
i am poisoned by individuality, if you ask me what I am I will say myself
>>524682651The Roman Catholic Church’s idea that Peter was the first bishop of Rome is ahistorical and a latter legendary development to legitimize itself. Analysis of Paul’s epistle to the Romans will even contradict this: Read it and try to see if you can even see any evidence of church hierarchy à la Rome or a nod to Peter’s authority or presence. Also read up on the history and source of the succession list of bishops of Rome. Or the pentarchate and early council structure of the church. No Roman supremacy to be seen besides imperial and political deference
>>524683631thats not truepeter was the most important person in the council of jerusalem
>>524681453I find the idea of a pope abhorrent
>>524683701What isn’t true? And what evidence do you have for your claim, and if you’re feeling confident how di you link the significance of your claim to the foundations of the Church in Rome, Italy?
>>524681453Even ignoring the retarded theology, its interior is one of the most uncanny things I've ever seen because of the contrast to the exterior
>>524681453I am a catholic, but I'm a shut-in since I got fired a few months ago (I was doing the Lord's Work, working in direct patient care at a hospital, regularly working sundays and generally being too exhausted to get up in time for Mass on the days I wasnt working) and I haven't been to confession or mass in over a year. I'm not from this area and I don't know anybody at the church. >>524681598But ONLY Christians, right?
>>524681453You chose wisely. >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-ZAAi4UQQ
>>524682582>It's a human institution!You know that only one of the twelve Apostles that Jesus Christ himself picked stayed with him until he died on the cross, right? One betrayed him, One denied him and nine ran away. And those are the men Christ himself Hand Picked.The adminstration and temporal leadership of the church is irrelevant.If you expect Perfect Church anywhere on Earth, your standards are too high.Here's the thing about the church: Despite all of the bad leadership and scandals and mistakes, it's still survived for 2000 years and the dogma is unchanged.
>>524681453I don't know.I've thought about pursuing religion. But between protestantism, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, the catholic church seems like the option that makes the least sense.If you believe that Jesus, when he said that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church, meant that the actual institution he founded would never fall into heresy, or if you believe that apostolic succession and Church tradition are necessary to understand or even justify scripture then why wouldn't you pick Orthodoxy over Catholicism? The idea of papal supremacy seems like a blatant accretion, and the more decentralised power structure of the Orthodox Church shields it from much of the criticism that the Catholic Church is exposed to. It's kinda hard to buy into Catholicism when the history of the papacy is filled with so much blatant corruption and abuse of power.And if you think Jesus was referring not to a specific institution but rather just the continuation of worship and faith in Him, the practice of His teachings and the spreading of the gospel, and if you look at the history of the Catholic (and Orthodox) Church and are justifiably uncomfortable with vesting any spiritual authority in these institutions then protestantism is the obvious answer for you.
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i don't worship jews
>>524684544>dogma is unchangedThat's a big claim that not even the Catholic Church itself would make.There have been many doctrinal developments over the course of Church history. The Catholic Church acknowledges this, but claims that these doctrinal developments have been made with the authority of the Church. So the question is whether or not you think that doctrinal developments are immune from the bad leadership and human folly that is evident in other aspects of Church history, and if yes then what your basis for this belief is.
>>524684544>If you expect Perfect Church anywhere on Earth, your standards are too high.Matt: 7:16 , I think this standard sounds fair, or is it too high? Maybe we should tell this dude to lower it. But I didn’t even go the moral critique route, because it is trite and low-hanging.And the longevity of something I have not been sufficiently convinced it’s a standard of transcendence. The dogma unchanged part that is where it falls apart. Quick example, if I live unwedded with a woman (no sacrament of matrimony) according to the church I am in sin and can’t receive communion. If I die in this state I’m not looking too good. Now dude, google what year marriage officially became a sacrament in the church. There’s your “unchanged dogma”. It was only after the Protestant reform. Did you know Catholic Spaniards for example had a Spanish wife in Spain and a native convert indigenous wife in the Americas and they would still be in good standing with the church because the church didn’t still officiate marriage ceremonies? Unchanged dogma, haha read something
>Why are you not worshipping a jewish rabbit in a religion invented by the jew Paul to trick the goyim into never tribing up so the jews can take advantage of them
>>524684746I have similar thoughts and it's hard to say which denomination is the correct path. Maybe it's like with Linux distros where some are better than others but they're all about the same and all that matters is you pick one
>>524682651Atheism doesn't make any claims, it just doesn't except that God is a proven answer.To me, suggesting a complex being like a god is a good solution to the reason the universe exists doesn't really make sense. I think it makes more sense to say we don't know yet, and to continue the research. Pascals' wager is a n horrible argument and I think you know that.
>>524684431>But ONLY Christians, right?silly goy, of course!
>>524681453 Marianism, how the clergy is utilised particularly in confession, intercessional prayer by even the dead and the veneration of saints being too close to worship for me. I don’t hate catholics or anything, I just do not see the church as biblical. It’s beautiful, I love the aesthetics of Catholicism a lot but I do not like Catholic doctrine and it leaves a sour taste for me as it appears like an empty veneer.
>>524684431>But ONLY Christians, right?There is no "Christians". You schizophrenic retards have 100 different versions of it yet you allow the most Jewish version run our foreign policy
>>524681453I went to a few services but Catholics are the most liberal, pro abortion sect of Chrsitianity and the vast majority of them were alcoholics. I do like the ceremonies more than the preaching of Protestants though. Orthodox seems to be the best version of it all to me. Tldr Majority of Catholics seem to be drunk liberals
