How do antisemites reconcile their hatred of the Jewish people with the staggering accomplishments of said people in art, finance, science, mathematics, philosophy, and politics? Per capita, they've probably achieved more than any other group.
>>524682592Isn't that Mark Twain?
Einstein was a fraud about everything and he fucked his own daughter.
>>524682461I tried understanding the Theory of Relativity and it just seemed like Jewish schizophrenia nonsense on par with the Old Testament. Maybe it's my fault for having a measly goyim IQ
>>524683110>Einstein was a fraud about everythingI hear a lot of people say this. Is it true? Or is it a case of a legitimately intelligent and productive person having an overblown legacy like Turing? Or is it just seethe?
>>524682461anonjust go through the relevant names of jews before the 20th century and you will find a handful but not much morethe entire west was build without jews other than them being bankers
>>524683241>before the 20th centuryOkay well what about the 20th century?
Jews achieve nothing. They just create fake made up theories that gentiles have to work around. I call them philosophy trolls.>oh I am le genius Carl Sagan, look at my genius 4D science which is just a lazy rehash of kabbalistic angel dimension bullshitIf we didn't have any Jews in academia we would've solved all science already. Jewish academics are the most worthless pieces of shit.
>>524682461Not really philosophy, art and politics. And you can fuck off with finance.
>>524682461Art like this?
>>524683380I was thinking more of music
>>524683215>Maybe it's my fault for having a measly goyim IQThere's plenty of goyim that understand GRYou're just a brainlet
>>524683232Special Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Fitzgerald. General Relativity was discovered by Hilbert. The Mathematics of Brownian motion was discovered by Thiel. If I had written a thesis and took credit for someone else's work, it would have been cause to expel.He was wrong about Quantum Mechanics. He was wrong about the EPR Paradox, which showed he didn't understand either QM or SR that he stole. Bose Einstein Condensates was discovered entirely by Bose. The paper was finished and he just put his name on it to get the paper published because Bose was a jeet. Einstein was my hero, then I went into physics and he barely was mentioned and he was publishing papers that were already published. They guy's a joke.
>>524683328Georg Cantor (inventor of set theory) was allegedly Jewish (I say allegedly because the evidence seems unclear).
>>524683462Ok explain what space-time is and why it's curvy. To me this is just Doctor Who tier nonsense
>>524683421Yes, they gave us the wonderful shitfest of atonality. The only reason Jews meddle in our music is to control, subvert and destroy our musical tradition.
>>524683462Ah, general relativity…that thing so wonderful that it’s the basis of the gravitational model of the universe…that has been disproven by every single observation we have ever made, so they keep making up fake bullshit that also has no evidence to try to shoehorn it in.
>>524683058I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talkin' about.
>>524683565It's a local coordinate system.
>>524682461Per capita abominations by the likes of magnus hirschfeld and noel ignatiev, and barbara lerner spectre, eclipse any valye of jewish discoveries.Art?Dont make me laugh.Jews are not very nice.Nobody has a reason to like them.Their religion is also unclean.
>>524683502A quick look reveals that his mother was Christian and they did not practice Judaism. This rules him out as a Jew according to halakha. He had Jewish blood but was functionally a non-Jew.
>>524683502There is no doubt that european jews have helped make advancements in mathematics and science, but just as fuentes said…a gross positive, not a net positive.
>>524683585>that has been disproven by every single observation we have ever madeName some
>>524683566I'm no fan of atonality, but a lot of famous figures in the movement were gentiles (Berg, Webern), and a lot of less aesthetically "offensive" composers like Mahler and Mendelssohn were Jewish. Also Schoenberg's tonal stuff is great.https://youtu.be/5h5Xc-rUef4?si=asRcoO8UL_b0S3zs
>>524682461how's that standard model workin out op?
Einstein refused to become ruler of israel and said jews are not a race, religion, nationality or ethnicity - he said jews are people who share a set of histories and cultural values
How do anti white kikes reconcile with turning on people who saved them not so long agoJews arnt smarter then anyone else. They just rig everything so only them gets to play in academiaThey didnt harness electricity. They didnt invent engines, flying...But they did invent loxism
>>524683472Is any of this true? I have knowledge on mathematics and CS so I can judge Jewish accomplishments in that area, but I really have no clue about anything physics.>got into physicsAs a hobbyist or academically?
>>524682461General Relativity is overrated.Einstein was at least partially a psyop.
>>524683681Not enough matter, make up dark matter. Not enough expansion, make up dark energy. Etc. And then there’s the fucking one from the new telescope that showed that red-shift is not caused by expansion.
>>524683666Some sources say his mother was racially Jewish.
>>524683688Mendelssohn-Bartholdy was the son of philosopher Moses Mendelsohn of Haskala fame/infamy. For that association alone I have stopped listening to his music altogether.
>>524683674Fair enough I suppose. Without Jews we'd probably be in more or less the same spot. But they objectively are an accomplished people.
>>524683294imo, Jews were the indians of their timethey came out of their shtetles in eastern europe but they didnt build the westinfact them showing up coincieds with the downfall of the west, them promoting marxism and degneracythere I answered your question in OP
>>524682461He was a fraud
>How do anti-Nazis reconcile their hatred of the German people with the staggering accomplishments of said people in art, finance, science, mathematics, philosophy, and politics?
>>524682461I'll give them the invention of Everything Bagels and a few very good classical musicians, but the net contribution of jewry to the world is overwhelmingly negative
>>524682461>staggeringNone of those achievements existed prior to jews blending into Germanic society. I wonder why
>>524683884Not exactly comparable; Nazism was one specific instantiation of the German political spirit. Being anti-Nazi doesn't mean you're anti-German like being antisemitic means you're anti-Jewish. Nazis themselves didn't really achieve much of note save the politics.
>>524682461>with the staggering accomplishments of said people in art, finance, science, mathematics, philosophy, and politics?What accomplishments exactly?Even your Pic related is an overhyped dipshit who simply plagerised the work of others.
>>524683763That's the cosmological model, not GR. It's perfectly reasonable to assume GR is correct but homogeneity and isotropy is wrong.And even if it's wrong, please present a model that's as good as the LCDM at explaining the CMB and galaxy formation. You won't find it because it's a really difficult problem and a really good model.
>>524683955>Nazis themselves didn't really achieve much of note save the politics.Other than inventing the computer lmaoKill yourself, kike
>>524683462GR is all over the place and by even the most charitable analysis, it is incomplete.Anyhow, it's utterly useless.
>>524683904Ironically bagels aren't as Jewish as you might think. It doesn't seem clear that they were invented by Jews, only that they were brought to America by Jews. And the invention of the everything seasoning is also disputed.
>>524683846>But they objectively are an accomplished people.No, they are not an objectively accomplished people. They have outliers that have excelled in select fields. As a people, they have been been a parasitic race that inevitably seek to destroy their host through their actions. They are incapable of symbiosis. Or self-creation. The idea of “master races” (a terrible translation) was never about superiority. Ubermench literally means SuperMan…ie, man that is able to build prosperous civilization. For example, hitler talked at length at why he refused to destroy britain…because he saw them as the same as the germans in that regard.
>>524684033The computer is MUCH more of an Anglo invention (Babbage, Church, Turing, ENIAC).
>>524684010>It's perfectly reasonable to assume GR is correctIt really isn't.Anyhow, it has exactly zero real world application.It's just nonsensical mathematical drivel divorced from empirical reality. You jews have utterly ruined physics, you kikes are the reason the physics department has produced nothing of practical use since WWII.
>>524684010The electrostatic model explains everything. And einstein is wrong about light.
>>524682461Naturaly. Jews by religion see me as filthy animal that should be enslaved or killed, so I see them as enemies that should be killed to protect myself. I do not care about how great they are doing or how high IQ they are. I am self preserving myself - a basic instinct of any living being which isn't mentally retarded.
>>524682461even if jews were a super race whats the point if the world they create with their supposed talent is a gay shit nigger world where anyone with an iq above 2 is beset by nigger zombies and raped and beaten constantly?
>>524684058bagels are just polish Travellers bread
>>524684155>It's just nonsensical mathematical drivel divorced from empirical reality.Differential geometry is the most aryan area of mathematics.And GR is basically applied differential geometry.It makes predictions that we can measure. You've just not taken enough time to study it or the prerequisites.
>>524684231Because that facilitate their parastism.Violent multiculturalism is a pre condition to jewish parastic success.
>>524684158>The electrostatic model explains everything
>>524683846>But they objectively are an accomplished peopleIf you rig the system for yourself and your own, of course. This escape the gentile, the overall population grasp, thinking that jews are smart because of said figures without understanding the whole picture. Even then, not long ago, the average joe and jane would still see jews as weird and greed and say that they don't like jews at all.
>>524682461I don't give a fuck. Provide benefit to my life or be hated and resisted. Yids don't know the first thing about stewardship, let alone any other higher learning.
>>524684321>If you rig the system for yourself and your own, of courseIs that not a measure of greatness? This rhetoric is the exact same that global southerners will use to seethe at colonialism.
>>524684309who the fuck are they going to be a parasite of long term? the fucking indians? i hope so that would be the perfect karma for them being forced to devolve into street shitters, theyre incest enough to look the part.
>>524683823>raciallyNo such race.
>>524684366>is rigging and scamming not a measure of greatness?No Sukdeep, it really isn't
>>524684293>Differential geometry is the most aryan area of mathematics.>And GR is basically applied differential geometrySemantic distortion meant to remove the semetic stench from the practically ufeless GR nonesense.Anyhow GR is MUCH more than differential geometry.> It makes predictions that we can measure.Not enough.> You've just not taken enough time to study it or the prerequisites.Classic kike rat cope.The physics department has produced NOTHING of value since the end of WWII, just a bunch of scam artists leeching of off uni's grants while dismissing any opposition to their grift as a not understanding them.Kys, you DIRTY kike rat!
>>524682461Jewish overachievements are exactly the reason of naziboos' hatred. They want to strengthen "their race" by physically removing the competition.
>>524684366white people used resources to do great things themselves, jews use the great things whites built to have orgasms and to ruin the society that made their lives possible which inevitably ends in either a shoah or their eventual damnation via breeding with jeets to not be shoah'd. but hey if you dont mind ruining everything even for your own descendants for short term pleasure by worming into the institutions of your betters with no plan to maintain them, then yes jews are god tier. no one else respects that besides maybe indians and gypsies.
>>524684509How is this any different from some pajeet seething at the British Empire?
>>524682461Science, math, and philosophy are all gay and leftist.
>>524683565it's because of the metric tensor you stupid idiot dumbfuck retarded piece of shit moron
>>524684418Any viable host.Jews give ZERO fucks about the state of the society they exist in as long as they get to rule it.They will stay within their gated communities, hiding away from the multicultural shitshow they created.And they are just fine with that.
>>524682461>Per capita, they've probably achieved more than any other group.What achievements? Whites created the modern world
>>524684535>Jewish overachievementsWhat achievements, exactly.Name a SINGLE relevant invention a kike ever made.
>>524684366>Is that not a measure of greatness?No, the measure of greatness of having the capacity to create such system.A jew is simply a parastic entity that inflitates such systems.
>>524684567Because Brits took from Pajeets to make something actually useful whereas jews take with no plan to keep it safe and profitable for themselves and build nothing of value. >>524684604I think theyll care when they go from pampered and being able to have orgies with attractive whites, to farming for shit in their dung palaces and hearing "saaaarrrr i am to kem" during sex. if they deluded themselves into thinking they wont care then theyre definitely high iq. but also we do know they care because they kvetched about people cheering on the bondi shooting and other attacks on jews and are confused shitskins dont like them after they bombed brown babies gleefully.
>>524684567How did the British Empire weasel and scam their way into power in India?
>>524684366>seethe at colonialism.European colonists either created or planted the seed of civilization everywhere they stepped foot. Language, education, law, transportation, commerce. The retards seethe because they cannot imagine that the reason the global south is such utter shit is because of the native populations, so they make outlandish claims that the colonizers “pillaged their wealth” etc.
>>524684521>Classic kike rat cope.What? Me calling you a brainlet has nothing to do with kikery, and all with you talking about things you clearly do not understand.
>>524684685They've sure built something for themselves.
>>524683232gravitational theory isn't even a theory, it's also not his idea. E=MC^2 is also bullshit and not his idea. jews like to take old shitty human ideas, recycle them later and bury all opposition and that's easy when you own all the scientific publications and the government that gives out grants for scientific advancement. right now in the USA, you literally aren't allowed to request data from the NHS that pertains to anything related to racialism.jews larp and retards are impressed
>>524684703How did Jews weasel and scam their way into power in the West? We welcomed them and they took advantage.
>>524682461Because they arent greek or roman
>>524684567The british empire built them a network of railroads, established education throughout the entire counry (why do you think damn near the whole country now speaks english), established a system of law and commerce. They seethe because without the british, they are nothing but streetshitters. Hell, just look at modern day south africa and rhodesia to see how hard these places revert back to barbarism once the white man leaves power, Hong kong became the beacon of ecomic prosperity for damn near a century in asia because of the british.
>>524684845>gravitational theory isn't even a theory, it's also not his idea.Yes it is, and whose was it then? Minkowski's?>E=MC^2 is also bullshit Why?
To tell the truth, jews have dominated early academia through educational investments fueled by success in finance and as cosmopolitan multilingual speakers, then used esoteric hermeneutics to exclude outsiders and maintain tribal, oligopolistic control over it. They've even touted the most gay nonsense as their own achievement.
>>524684721yes, any worthwhile architecture in india is either from the british or the earlier muslim conquerors. and they used their empire to build up things in some colonies beyond what even old empires like china had like railways. if you mean to say modern britian is shit then exactly, the jews ruined that for whites and for themselves because theyre morons. >>524684887actually no they used blackmail and lies, youve also gone from "jews are scientists" to "jews are good at being destructive parasites" which if the latter is your point then yes jews are good at being useless ticks who kill their own meal ticket. they are the best ever at being useless subhumans, which is why most societies wanted them dead and why they will most likely be extermined from the face of the planet.
>>524684929Fair enough desu. We have a proven track record of success without Jews.
>>524684997Anon I support the deportation of all Jews lol.
>>524684929Brittish*
>In 1933, the Central Union of German Citizens of the Jewish Faith published a 1,060-page book meticulously enumerating the achievements of the community. >Weimar Germany is remembered as a period of instability, a time of beer-hall-putschists, louche cabarets, and rampant assassinations.>But Weimar was also the pinnacle of Jewish power, a golden age in its own right, especially if one considers the whole of German culture, which sprawled across borders on the map. >During the first decades of the 20th century, Jewish contributors to German music included Gustav Mahler, Kurt Weill, and Arnold Schoenberg; to German literature, Franz Kafka, Stefan Zweig, and Walter Benjamin; to science, Albert Einstein. >Jews presided over the Frankfurt School of social criticism and populated the Bauhaus school of art and architecture. >The Central Union’s compendium could be read as the immodest self-congratulation of a people who represented 0.8 percent of the total population—or as a desperate, futile plea for Germany to return the love that Jews felt for the country.https://archive.md/3BfGKIt's actually a really tough kind of love.
>>524685047You did was used to be really fun and enlightening on /pol/ back in the day: argue for the opposite viewpoint and give it the full benefit of the doubt and hold it up to scrutiny. I appreciate the effort.
>>524685195Well these are things I think about myself.
>>524685047ah sorry, with how kikes have been lately i fully expected the thread to just be more pro jew spam.
>>524685329I know, that’s the point. You seemed to be arguing in earnest and good faith, and not from some script. You allowed some positions and thoughts you held onto to be challenged.
>>524685351Don’t be sorry, you fucker. Always attack hard. It’s the positions that are attacked and challenged, not the man. If it’s spam, you post for the lurkers. And once in a while, like now, it’s in good faith >>524685329 But always attack hard.
>>524685456There's not enough substantive discussion on /pol/. But it's not like there's any more anywhere else online.
>>524682461Einstein wasn't on Epstein Island, FACT
>>524684887>How did Jews weasel and scam their way into power in the West?Lurk for two years before posting again> We welcomed them No we didn't. Even Americans were vehemently opposed to mass immigration of jews, even during muh holocaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQHere’s a great little scene from the Life of Brian about seething about colonization, “what have they ever done for us”.
>>524685558>But it's not like there's any more anywhere else online.Yep, but at least it CAN be had here.
>>524685558>>524685841Wait... these lame attempts at playing devil's advocate pass for substantive discussion in your minds?
this nigger literally stole his shit from the patent office, not unlike most jews
>>524682461All scammers and stolen shit. The kike you posted work his whole life on a patent office, ffs. Try harder, kike.
>>524685923>>524685930There's no theoretical physics at a patent office you retards
>>524685558To be fair, this exact argument you started the thread with is a common brag by kikes which almost unilaterally doesn't go anywhere in terms of rational discourse. I'll join in with the other anons in congratulating you on at least coming to the table.On that note, I'll give you a few examples of jewish contributions that I actually appreciate. I think Jascha Heifetz was the greatest violinist to ever live. Many other jews contributed meaningfully to the classical tradition like Piatigorsky, Emmanuel Feuermann, and Rubinstein along with all the other later jewish classical artists who, and I can't fault them for this, made and continue to make great music. This is why I, and a few others here, argue for an exactly measured and proportional response to the jewish problem, weighing their contributions to the global subjugation of the West against their individual, personal actions. In reality, this doesn't make much difference in terms of jews en masse being deported, put into camps, and those with real responsibility being subjected to harsh labor until death, but sometimes it's important to note that those jews who actually contributed positively deserve a proportional break rather than unilateral punishment.And again, the aforementioned proportional break from subjugation would still have extreme scrutiny and surveillance attached to it, in case of any of them getting the wrong idea and thinking they can pull a sneaky one on us.
>>524685690>No we didn't.Well our elites welcomed them in at least, and that's all that matters.
>>524685904First of all, playing devils advocate sincerely is one of the best ways to come to truth. By actually giving a view you don’t hold the benefit of the doubt and argue for it in good faith, it can hone your own views from the arguments of others, or even change your mind.But regardless, anon said these WERE things that he thinks about himself, so not devil’s advocate.
>>524683232Tesla considered Einstein a midwit. Einstein is also a jew so that should be enough to doubt anything he says.
>>524683380wadda acheevement. no goy cooda duhn it
>>524685975As well, jews are not a monolith. What was it, like 100,000 served in hitler’s army? And even more, a grandchild could be considered full german?
>>524686267There's a very real concern to be meted out as to whether eradicating jewish blood totally, to the last man, or merely eradicating their ideology is what solves the problem. I tend to lean towards the latter, as I think even quarter or half jews would not be instinctually drawn to recreating judaism as we know it if their ideological base were destroyed. It's not like we're dealing with a biological weapon here. It's an ethno-religion. Smash both parts, tactically isolate and cordon off the splinter groups, eradicate them too, and the jewish problem is all but solved. What I'm worried about is, and this will be quite funny to read, jewish infiltration of counter-judaism. These are crafty kikes we're dealing with. What countermeasures can be established to catch the sneakiest ones of the bunch out?
>>524683472Einstein:>God doesn't play diceMe:>Don't tell god what he can and can't do jewish dog! God plays dice if he damn well pleases!
>>524686106>our elites welcomed them inThat's what scamming and weasling their way into power is dumbass. Corrupting and capturing native elites by any means necessary, including secret society faggotry, pedosexual blackmail and so onIt's all a far cry from Britain which conquered India by force of arms>>524686126Yeah I'm starting to doubt he's a mere advocateActual White men aren't prone to associate deception and fraud with superiority
>>524686390And the subject op does have a great point in it…many of them do have great minds. As a thought experiment, i do wonder what the most feasible solutions are. What is the chicken and egg? Is it to reestablish nationalism then have the ability to address issues? Or is it to address issues in order to reestablish nationalism?
>>524682461Poincaré and Lorentz did it first.Fuck you jewish plant.
>>524686172>Tesla considered Einstein a midwit.And everybody else considers Tesla a midwit