WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ONSHOULD I BUY MORE NOW OR SELL? OR WAIT? WHAT DO I DODO I HOLD? INVEST? CASH OUT?
>>524712726cash the fuck out ffs
>>524712726jews are pushing it down in $5-7 chunks, it comes back up again, and they do it again, and so it goes.
>>524712777But what if that's a mistakeI could make like 30 grand now but it could be more
>>524712837>taking profits after a 100% gain yoy is a mistakethen you'll lose money thats all, step away from the slot machine sir
>>524712726Does that mean that all electronics and other stuff that use silver will 3x in price now ?
>>524712726the best you can hope for is to magically time one of the jews monkeyhammering efforts and buy morethese current sale prices will not lastfire sale prices are over and done with, they will never be seen again
Silver ends the FED, silly goyim! Don't sell now when its at a permanently high plateau, or else you'll be sorry FOREVER
The best thing you can do to uppend the system is nothing.
>>524712897You're right. It'll take like 2-3 weeks to sell it though, won't I be too late? I have a lot.>>524712912I don't know exactly what is going on.>>524712992fair enough, I could use the money, I'd invest it into my house and since I have a kid on the way I want to make sure I'm settled. I just wanted my money in silver since it felt more stable and it was the right choice I feel, but I could do a lot of repairs and upgrades with just cash.>>524713088>>524712996>>524712830Ehh...
why not wait a single day until the second largest economy in the world starts sanctions on silver
>>524712837You're experiencing FOMO, specifically fear of leaving money on the table. Same as the people who bought or didn't sell bitcoin at $130k thinking it would zip straight up to $1M. Sell and enjoy profits instead of worrying about being sidelined
>>524712777>cash the fuck out ffs
>>524713140Wouldn't that be bad?>>524713167I am. If I can split about 30K into roof repairs, a full house generator and some solar panels + extra I'd be in a much better position I think. Going to request a mail-in package and sell what I can.
>>524713140That's not how it works, prices rally in anticipation of supply shortages bringing demand forward, so you've already missed out once they've begun
>>524713119you'll want to keep it in your hands so as to maximize what you're able to do with it laterotherwise its gonna be like shorting 2008 in 2006-7 and going>sheeeeeeeeeeeeit
>>524713236Why would an even lower supply of silver be bad for silver prices? If that happened I would be completely blackpilled on basically human society. Imagine silver prices tumbling after sanctions
>>524712996The dollar is breaking. There will not be a plateau this time nor will they be able to mash it down selling and buying promises to deliver as trust has broken as well. The price of silver in dollars will continue to skyrocket until the dollar becomes cheaper to use than toiletpaper for wiping your ass, after which time no amount of dollars will be able to purchase any amount of anything.
>>524712726The rally is over, its time to take our profits and pump bitcoin. Lets do it bros! We are all going to be rich!
>>524713306I suppose. I might just sell half of it and do what I can.>>524713318Good point
>>524712726Just look at JP Morgan quietly switch their position and are now all in on Silver going higher.
>>524713167you're one dumb jeetnigger, you should return to your country of origin>>524713236>and sell what I can.super, super dumb doing this right now
>>524712726>New YorkUtterly buckbroken. Only China matters.
>>524712726If you are Canadian and plan to stay in Canada you shouldn't sell any metals.Carney is going to be in for the next 4 years, and then after that, our stupid population will probably elect another socialist retard.Canada's dollar will continue to devalue.
>>524712726obviously sell retard
>>524712726Its over, no usecaseSightly better conductivity than copper, and compared to gold, it oxidizes.Silver price is bigger scam than crypto
BUY LABUBUSELL YOUR AMC AND GAMESTOP
>>524712726>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ONThe sillver price has been suppressed for decades to make shit like solar panels cheaper to manufacture. It partially broke containment, leading to the price moving closer to its true value.Governments and corporations will conspire to bring the price back down.
>>524713693DUMP EVERYTHING INTO NOVELTY WRIST WATCHES NOW DON'T ASK WHY
It depends on who you are selling your silver to and why. Silver coins in treasure chests are for family coffers. Are you buying a house? Making a big purchase. I liquidated all my positions in BTC and stock market so I could buy a used car. This was before it hit ath. The only thing I'm worried about is if my car has shit welds on it because I didn't pay an auto mechanic to check out the car first. If that happens I'm going to bomb the car dealership.
>>524713413>>524713406But I could invest a lot of this into my house. I'm pretty rural and I just don't have the money or time right now to do some things. I've done roofing before, but I have absolutely no personal gear for it and certainly not the time, and the winters are tough. Power outages are difficult to deal with too, even with a fireplace, especially with a baby. I'm hoping to hook up a generator to a natural gas line, but I don't have the 7-8k+ for that. There's a lot of other things too.>>524713823I can believe it>>524713462I'll probably sell half
>>524713907Ah, I own a house, I just need a new roof and I want a proper generator to power it, especially during winter if the power keeps going out. There'd be some big purchases.
>>524712726Today is your last day, china is going to turn into a silver vacuum cleaner tomorrow.
>>524712726Buy and hold
>>524713918>>524713943Sell your house and buy more silver. Once the dollar collapses, which it somehow already has as well as is simultaneously doing so in the present, you won't be able to live in houses except those made out of physical silver
>>524713236Where would you sell? What do you have? The dealers around here pay 80% of spot for anything under 99.99% silver including junk silver.
>>524714215I'm looking at Canada Gold, since I can mail it in there.
>>524713167It's quite possible that the price will go down and we will miss out on some profits, but profits in what? US dollars? Do I have faith in the dollar gaining purchasing power? No, so why should I sell?A silver stash is *supposed* to be your emergency SHTF insurance policy. Cashing out your insurance policy means you no longer have it.
Never sell. Buy more.
>>524714122I actually know someone that did that, they even sold their car. Now they live in a cheap shoebox they bought during Covid prices and used the of their money to buy silver. Has been buying silver nonstop every payday since. We live in Vancouver so she is definitely sitting on one of the fattest stacks in the world
>>524713918>live in similar conditionsIf you can I would prefer to use Canadian toilet paper money for that.If you are really worried about freezing in the winter (and you should be with our grid pretty much failing now) get one of those small camp wood stoves from Amazon.Also you never know when the govt is going to come for people like us. Which they will eventually. If you manage to leave the country you can trade your metals for USD or whatever local currency in the country you end up at.
>>524712726The dollar is dying. Nothing can stop that. All they can do is lie and hope sufficient idiots believe it for long enough, that they can get away with their loot.
>>524713918>But I could invest a lot of this into my houseand if you wait, you could invest a little of this into your house and achieve the same results
Good luck at the pawn shop sukhdeep
>>524714273You should go steal some. What's she going to do, prove its hers?
>>524712726China halted all exports of silver.
>>524712726Lol what in the bubble is this?
>>524712726HODL
>>524712996I didn't buy silver to cash out you filthy double nigger. This is a physical legacy I am building and passing on
>>524713918Another good one is portable kerosene heaters. Mine only cost around $400. It does my whole house during an outage.Just get a normal gas generator and run an extension cable through a window in a power outage. You can get a decent Chinese one at Canadian tire for like $500 sometimes less on sale.
>>524712726>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ONIf you don't know you are going to lose money, stay out.Don't fall in the FOMO trap anon.
>>524714366>The dollar is dying.It’s been dying ever since they went off the gold standard, doesn’t mean it can’t go on like this for another 50 years or longer. The working poor are going to keep begging for more government when that’s the root of their impoverishment. Same as it’s been the last 50 years.
>>524714353I have a proper fireplace, but that's not the same, expecially when there have been times its hit -40 and I lost power for 1-2 days. Fine for me, but not with a woman and a baby. I just won't feel right. >>524714409I suppose>>524714533I might look into that, I was just going to get something proper. I don't have a garage, so a generator usually won't run outside in -40, and I wanted something that could power more or less my entire house going off of my natural gas, while functioning in freezing temperatures.
>>524712726Parabolas are generally not the best time to buy a stock or asset but I'm not a greedy jew rat kike so what do I know.
>>524714598There are big unprecedented moves happening this time in the physical market. Eventually the paper market will lose its influence. Until then these margin requirement raises are all buying opportunities.
>>524712726definitely buy now, before its too late m8!
Nothing good can come from precious metal graphs looking like a shitcoin.
>>524714817He nogged?
>>524714631I understand.Its just me and my son so were ok living like literal survivalist trash pandas during winter outages kekFor the generator. You can build a small insulated box for it outside. I would recommend that because it will cut down on noise and make you less of a target. Its not a perfect solution but I think it would be better than selling your silver.Then you will also have a backup for the future if say your more expensive generator fails.
>>524712912Depends on the electronic, some use a tiny amount, while others use a fuck ton.Phones and computers shouldn't be hit too hard
>>524714906I did plan to set up a cover for it, but I didn't think of the noise element. That's a good point - could definitely help. I gotta invest in something soon anyways, so I'll probably grab a kerosene heater like you said. It's tough to get enough wood too - working full time doesn't leave much time to find wood, especially in a place without many trees. And hey I lived like a trash panda too for years haha, worked my ass off to buy a house so I can start investing/saving. Sounds like you raised your son right. I hope to raise my girl right.
>>524714625Nope. All fiat currencies return to zero and the dollar has already lost 99%+ of its value. The music has stopped, and the chairs are limited. Add in all time lows for public trust of govt, public savings, and all time high debts - the show is over. You cannot maintain a global economic-military hegemony when you are too broke to pay your own soldiers. Countless empires throughout history learned that lesson the hard way and the USA is next. And realize there are countless foreign state actors out there with axes to grind and sovereignty to reassert, so it will be escalation after escalation, and black swan after black swan. And that’s not counting outright warfare and WMDs which are almost certain to make an appearance. No my friend. Keep your own head in the sand but don’t bother trying to spread your delusions to others. This game is done and a lot of Darwinian substandard people are going to find the lifeline provided by a decadent society - gone, and themselves in existential free fall.
>>524712912A Samsung phone becomes like 6$ more expensive with silver at 100 USD compared to a year before. Not a big deal. Problem is, there's no silver to be bought from the exchanges. Samsung had to go directly to a mine and make their own deals instead of buying it from the COMEX. The bigger problem is that banks have shorted (spoofed really) such an insane amount of silver they have to try and manipulate the price down for big banks to not explode.The problem with this is that China is buying all the silver, so.... The west is allowing banks to suppress the prices of silver for no reason other than to let jews have more money, akd chinamen buy it all up until we'll reach a point where deficits will force political action to stop the flow of silver to China. Demand destruction for silver prices doesn't even happen before 140~ silver. There's currently a deficit of silver on a yearly basis and production can't really be ramped up quickly because that takes time and silver is mainly a secondary product of other mining. Silver is rare and a big industrial metal, more so with all this AI, green energy etc bullshit. I'd say this is just getting started and you'll see the peak in 3 years.It'll be frothy, and a roller coaster. That's not even taking into consideration the death of the USD.
>>524712726CME is illegally manipulating the market and nothing happens to them. They raised margin rates and forced a bunch or margin calls to drop the price by 10% and make $1 billion. They always do this near tops. Silver is still in a bull market but these kikes will get their cut by stealing from the goys. CME group needs to be burned to the ground and a new free market based silver and gold pricing index created.
>>524714631>I supposewell, you either understand that massive amounts of paper have been used to suppress the physical price for quite a long time, or you dontyou either understand that brics have decoupled from redshart theft operations, or you dontyou either understand that its all of a sudden a critical mineral, or you dontyou understand why the price has "gone through the roof" or you dontyou understand why its got way further to go, or you dontgood luck fren, I would hope you're not swayed by jews and dumb niggers that post retard shit here
>>524714877you talk like the end of western central bank counterfeiting is a bad thing
>>524715154rare base swede
>>524715308I like to think I'm autistic enough to not fall for propaganda but that's what they want you to think, to feel overconfident and then you fall for the gaslight and think you're the crazy one. >>524715157I guess we're always fucked as individuals, and the best practice is to not even play a losing game. But I hate quitting and I hate losing.
>>524715557choose wisely, fren
>>524715154Someone has been paying attention
>>524715154>https://www.mining-technology.com/marketdata/newsus-geological-survey-study-finds-gold-in-human-waste-worth-millions-4539126/They'll just start recycling the precious metals from human shit.>India WILL be a SUPER POOWER by 2030!
>>524715600That's the difficult part
>>524712912Electronic devices tend to use fractions of a gram (very small amounts) of silver. The price of most electronic consumer goods should not be dramatically effected. This issue is that silver used in that industry is used. Recovery is not financially feasible, and it ends up in landfills. Because of industrial usage, all the silver from international mining along with silver recovery/refining has operated at a deficit for five years straight. Demand is increasing and physical supply is decreasing. Without the silver many businesses will not function. So it is a fight for supply to continue business in the future. Mining a newly found silver source, while incredibly being rare, takes about one decade from sampling the ground to mining an ounce. Virtually all silver mined is a biproduct of copper, zinc, and gold mining.
>>524712726People are realizing they have three choices to save money:>invest in financial “products” “derivatives” and “securities” tied to the USD>crypto>something elseWhich one are you gonna pick?
>>524715123They said the same thing about Japan and it’s still chugging along. This can go on as long as people are dumb enough to think socialism is the answer and “capitalism” is the problem.
It's fucking over, freak the fuck out and sell everything, it's never been more over>>524712837you could just sell some of it
>>524712726remember when pol told you to buy silver a couple years ago? should have listened
>>524715600Who's Wisley?!
>>524715739I think I will sell just some of it, enough to fix my roof up good and proper.>>524715759but I did buy silver. I have about 30,000 USD worth right now. Like 40K CAD.
>be finance nigger>figure out SLV contracts are bum (no supply)>”we are selling worthless thing”>”no faggot, we are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price”>samsung demands physical delivery>OH FUCK
>>524715832niceu, I hope everything works out for you leaf
>>524715636I'm glad I bought all those rolls of silver solder when radio shack was closing down, I have a lifetime supply for all my high quality audio needsthe difficult part is just resisting the globohomo addled voices telling you to part with your treasure because surely it will be worth a fraction soon, as if one could just linearly extrapolate how this went in 2011 & 1980that paradigm is broken and gone
>>524715667I'm investing in bringing the wolves back, like in Yellowstone. Already they are migrating outwards and growing in power
>>524715880thanks, you too man>>524715890quite the investment lol
> plz plz plz sell your silver, goyim> it's worthless> it's useless> it oxidizes and did I mention it's worthless?> it's poisonous> paper is where its at, it's safe and the best store of value> when everything collapses it will be even more worthless> pillaging raiders will come seek you out and kill you for the worthless silver during apocalypse> they'll mine asteroids for worthless silver> we can just literally create it out of thin air> don't collect this stupid, worthless, useless, poisonous, dangerous boomer rock!
>>524715890>they sold soldering equipment at radio shack
>>524712726Lol. Massive wealth transfer imminent. Yeah go ahead, buy as much as you can so you can lose it all in a month. I dont play jew money games, lately i have just been channeling my inner Tyrone and stealing en masse from supermarkets for my food. Sorry, im just not gonna pay for my goods as long as somalis are getting all my tax dollars is all
>>524712726>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ONEducate yourself.>>>/biz/61569857
>>524716020I think that was the true sign of things to come when Radio Shack died. The market for intelligent hobbyists and genuine computer enthusiasts was drying up already.
>>524716100well really what's the difference between theft and what the financial institutions do
>>524712726Why didn’t you buy when /pol told you to 3-4 years ago?
>>524716186Nothing at all really, thats what entitles me to do it. Im just not going to be spending $40 every night for a nice dinner is all, sorry!
>>524716269Please read the thread
>>524715919>quite the investment lolkek, I didnt say that was all my silverI just took advantage of RS's shuttering to secure good audio connections for the rest of my lifetimenot even an investmentnot even a hedge
>>524712726it's down over 10% interday so maybe it's a buying opportunity? i've never been one to buy in at a parabolic top, but that's just me lolif you had a large stack of this stuff it would have been sound to take some profits. funny thing is that many of the "stackers" are also "true believers" - with the fantasy that when the entire financial system crumbles they'll be able to buy 10 acres and a mule for an ounce of silver
>>524716020>they sold soldering equipment at radio shackfuck yeah they did, I paid like 9 bucks an ounce-roll cuz the shit was on clearance when they were closingback in the 80s & 90s that was where you bought shit like that
>>524716730fair enough, a good find regardless>>524716768I don't really have the cash to buy more right now sadly. I'm also not one of those fanatics, I just do think its generally...or was...more stable than dollars.
>>524716100>Yeah go ahead, buy as much as you can so you can lose it all in a monththis nigger needs electrolytes
>>524716175>I think that was the true sign of things to come when Radio Shack died. The market for intelligent hobbyists and genuine computer enthusiasts was drying up already.sure was, fren
>>524716768since the stock market is as fake an gay as think I don't see why it wouldn't freefall until the chinese did their thing, what the CME did was enough to kill silver under normal circumstances, but these aren't normal circumstances
>>524715679Japan is a dying nation of poor and old people. It's a dystopian hell. Perhaps safe, if you disregard shit quality of life for the average goyim. Now, what did Japan lack that the US has the privilege of having now? Fucking Chyna trying to rug-pull you hard and outjew your jews (which seems easy because they're WAAAAAY too cocky).
>>524712726Sometimes, when the line goes up like that, it soon comes down too. But sometimes, it also stays up. This is financial advice. Thank me later.
Did anyone smart post itt or is it all retards?
>>524717130>you have to be smart to line go up
>>524717205I just wanna read a smart assesment, I dont really invest for nowNot sure if its a smart idea when everyone is saying there is going to be a market crash soon
>>524716768I’ve been buying at the top for every payday for the last two months and guess what? The top gets higher every payday.
>>524717713it's basically astrology for men. nobody fucking knows what the market is going to do next, unless they have enough money and influence to actually affect it
>>524712726its gonna hit $350. im not buying any though.
>>524717713It's a clown economy. Do your own research or don't and throw money at stuff. We don't care.
>>524712726>4x????? >WE'RE GOING TO 40x!!!!!
>>524715308>>524717713>Not sure if its a smart idea when everyone is saying there is going to be a market crash soonthat's pretty much why it is a smart ideareminder that russia & china began buying gold hand over fist since 2008 in preparation for nowthe western banking paradigm is on its last legsFRN through the floor until FRNs are no longer printed (or should I just say, counterfeited)
>>524717713an ounce of gold has historically been tied to the monthly wage of skilled labor in leading economies. recently that monthly wage increased by quite a bit. the price of gold is slowly adjusting accordingly. it should normalize somewhere around $5,500/oz. historically the price ratio of silver to gold has been 16:1. for a couple of decades that was not the case, gold was more important than silver for industrial use, that is correcting as silver is now once again important due to battery production, so we should see a return to the 16:1 normal ratio. And, if that is what happens $350 silver is on the menu. of course, though, such a correction will probably cause some serious issues.
>>524715919>filenamelol
>>524718170>that's pretty much why it is a smart idea>reminder that russia & china began buying gold hand over fist since 2008 in preparation for now>the western banking paradigm is on its last legs>FRN through the floor until FRNs are no longer printed (or should I just say, counterfeited)this. it is illegal to yell fire in a crowded building because most people are too stupid to turn around and make sure there actually is a fire. The smart move, when everyone is yelling run, is to consider if the correct move is the entire opposite of what they are saying (because it often is). I dont invest in stocks or metals, I got 6 ounces of silver for novelties sake. But, the wisdom ive been given is that if everyone is shouting the world is ending its a real good time to make plans for tomorrow. If everyone were making plans for tomorrow id probably be preparing to meet my maker.
>>524717713CME raised margin requirements by 5 times in two weeks in order to kill silver in 2011 CME has been basically maxed out trying to drive down silver prices since 2022 going from $10,000 margin requirements to $22,000, so they've already been trying to kill silver for 3 years now they raised it to 25,000 which is why it dropped, but it didn't die I wonder what's happening behind the curtains
>>524718170>FRN through the floor until FRNs are no longer printed (or should I just say, counterfeited)That's what the digital id and digital currency are for, do you not pay attention?
>>524718719this guy pays attention
>>524718719It's at 35,000 now.
>>524712726supposedly true silver price should be around 200$JP Morgan apparently fucked up some huge silver short like the Hunt bros did back in 80s
>>524718800>That's what the digital id and digital currency are for, do you not pay attention?that was globohomo's original plan, sureglobohomo is losing its grip thoughwithout counterfeiting houses, their propaganda cannot be paid for
>>524718905dayumhttps://x.com/Sorenthek/status/2005995128197111837
>>524718968Hunt bros woulda won if they didnt shift to trying to use a lot of leverage
>>524718905Yeah I was wondering why it kept saying 35,000. That's basically war
>>524715667Their mistake for not reading Thomas More's Utopia.The real move is to buy tangible capital assets that can generate sustained annual returns.
>>524712726Another $74.6 billion fedbux entered the chat.It must be nice having access to infinite liquidity to unfuck your bad bets.
>>524712837>All your money is in silverSell some and buy other things>You already have money in other thingsCheck if all your bills are paid, invest in yourself through training etc>You already have a good job, bills paid, diversified assetsThen just leave it alone or sell a portion relative to what you think the market will do
>>524712726I'm holding until they start calling people like me unpatriotic hoarders ruining America and the war effort. But I've been holding for years. Cme is raising margin requirements again meaning the price is probably going to go down some. What this will not do is slow industrial demand whose interest got peaked due to a bunch of jeets buying bracelets causing a shortage at exchanges only slowed due to a lease from China. Nor does this give access to Chinas silver as the number 2 producer and perhaps number one consumer as a manufacturing center, that access goes away tomorrow probably not a defacto export ban but there will be less flowing next year regardless. It additionally will not stop Chinese imports, arbitrage opportunities exist whenever the price differential between western exchanges and Shanghais exchange exceeds the Chinese vat on silver, which it has done increasingly often even as prices rose. This is probably on account of being a manufacturing center dependent on constant exports for domestic market normality and being a large producer of weapons most of all in naval even their commercial vessels built as transports are likely requiring some in the form of the bridge, comms and batteries. Likewise this move down will not create any additional silver as mining and exploration remains skittish in the face of price volatility and historic behavior. Existing pure plays will print money no doubt but no one is going to mine copper for the byproduct or start risky ventures as the price threatens to decline to some unknown floor and energy remains scarce or uncertain. I'll win this fight either today or tomorrow or 10 years from now because nothing fundamentally changed in supply except that in favor of scarcity. Eventually western exchanges will go dry, people we'll run out of their inherited silverware and constitutional and we go switch back from over priced rock to strategic asset being hoarded by schizos in days or weeks.
tripcode's encryption seemed to change
>>524719072I'm stupid what does that mean?
>>524712726The next $20 may be down, but the next $60 move will be up. So it depends on your time preference. But I would avoid leverage from here.
>>524719908silver goes to $100 according to what I've been told.
>>524718905Where are you seeing that?
everyone notice that silver is being pushed SUPER hard on 4chan? it's pretty obvious it's not organic. so why is this happening? anyone know?
Here's all you need to knowIts going upThe banks and the middlemen and the FOMO cocksuckers are all causing this rollercoaster because they are being women and crabs in a bucket just trying to fuck everyone else overEveryone who is holding silver is buying it regardless and knows it will go up
>>524720590silver has been shilled here for 3 years, so the blow up is that the people who bought into silver over the course of the past 3 years are very happy nowseems pretty organic to me
>>524712726I want you to panic.
>>524719925Ai is saying the margin rate for silver is 35 000 for some reason
>>524720590It was pushed other times as well, there was a boomer glowie saying to buy silver, guns and move relative to a 500 warhead scenario map while it was cheap. Right now some of it is intelligence gathering but it's also organically shilled by holders. The derivatives market is so leveraged and supply is so constrained paper to rocks it's an easy target. SETF probably started here years ago, interest has scaled with market cap.
>>524720551Here>>>/biz/61571772
>>524720590we talk about things globohomo doesnt want you to notice here, fag
>>524721051If this is true they're unironically trying to crash the silver market before new years lol
>>524719581Money isn't real. >>524721206I hate them so much it's unreal
It's over for the jews.
>>524721206Jews are trying to save their sorry asses cause they naked shorted decades of silver mining output. Of course they can do that because they have jew friends at the FED. They have infinite money, or do they? The trust in western markets will die and their currencies will also die. That is what the silver price means because it needs this insane reaction not become the black swan event that crashes western economies.
>>524721856*to not become.
>>524721206China is banning silver exports starting in January 1st 2026, and their exchange is closed and opens in 6(?) days.They expect the price of silver to go down significantly this way.It might be a good opportunity to stack even more, to get cheapies.
>>524722717What is market manipulation
$71 nowhttps://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/silver
>>524721322LOL
>>524724003Sure but that’s the globohomo jew imaginary paper market. In China where people are actually trading industrial levels of silver and consuming it, the price is much higher. The markets have broken and the globohomo markets are floating into fantasy land.
>>524712996Based silverchad. Hold and don’t let evil jew FUD scare you.
>>524720894>seems pretty organic to methe only type of person that would say this is someone who is inorganically pushing this crap>>524721020>SETF has silver ended the fed yet? nope. and never will. setf threads are literally cia made. this has already been proven several times over.>>524721077>anything i don't like is globohomook cia globohomo fag agentany thread related to silver is cia propaganda, notice how when you call that out all the silverpedos jump on you about it? hmmm weird right? ever notice that when you start noticing patterns about silverpedos they start calling you a jew. it's just jews calling you jews. oldest trick in the talmud.
>>524715890the "silver solder" you buy at a hardware or tool store has virtually trace portions of Ag in it.JEWELERS SOLDER is the one that is 50% Ag but you will not find that laying around a typical garage or cellar.
>>524725280it's organic in that people up on history, banking, markets and silver know that shit's fake and gay
>>524712726(((They))) are shorting silver to unprecedented levels to keep the price low. It is uncertain if they will succeed or if the silver price will finally correct. Flip a coin, is my advice. Oh, and disregard paper, demand delivery if you do buy silver.
>>524725535>The silver market has dealt with a significant, some would call "unprecedented," structural short position for over 15 years>The massive short position originated in March 2008, when JPMorgan Chase acquired the failing investment bank Bear StearnsJPMorgan.... Bear Stearns... wait a minute
>>524725535Just buy it from a pawn shop in person. Don't even risk shipping it, especially this time of year.
>>524716020>>524716800Zoomers in this thread don't understand that Radio Shack began as a place that stocked hardware, tubes and transistors to build a radio on your workshop bench.(Maybe not tubes so much)
>>524712726I’m buying. There’s no scenario it stays low in the next 3 years.
>>524725943That's pretty fucking cool. Society is so retarded now
>>524712726Watch what happens tomorrow when china blocks silver exports.
>>52471283730 grand won't even buy you a car.
>>524725876Good point, though pawn shops tend to gouge on the spot price. I just meant, if whoever you buy it from tries to tell you "oh yes you DO have silver, it's absolutely safe here in OUR vault" either demand to see it, at which time you take possession, or demand your money back.
The only electronics that are going to matter right away are Warheads and Missiles and those instantly vaporize 31lbs a piece. This is why china is banning exports
>>524712726>SHOULD I BUY MORE NOW OR SELL? OR WAIT?Don't buy more now, why would you buy at historically high prices?Sell if you want to. Presumably you bought when it was much cheaper, and you can make a nice profit on it, if you sell now.Wait if you want, but whatever happens, by the time you know for sure what the right move NOW would have been, it's too late;Eg. Suppose it keeps going up and reaches $150/oz late next month. By then, if you sold now, or failed to buy more now, it's too late.Suppose instead that late next month the price crashes out back to what it was previously; if you buy now, or just continue to wait instead of selling now, it's too late by then.Ultimately, whatever is going to happen will be decided by forces that you and I have no influence over, eg. what China decides to do, what the jews decide to do, etc.Whatever you think is most likely to happen, use that as your basis and act accordingly.
What happens when you sell? Do you get cash or have a direct transfer into your account?
>>524725943>Zoomers in this thread don't understand that Radio Shack began as a place that stocked hardware, tubes and transistors to build a radio on your workshop bench.
>>524715759Ackshully, /biz/ told me... and I listened. Which is the one thing no one ever did.
>>524715759>remember when pol told you to buy silver a couple years ago? should have listenedI bought a few years ago specifically because kikes were shrieking so hard against itPicrel when a kvetching 50pbtid told me to buy doge instead of silver
>>524713320ChatJPT said you're wrong and there's no way silver will be $800/oz. (or $800,000) by 2040. You can't eat Mercury Dimes so there's no reason to hoard them.
>>524712726Sell, you idiot. It's called a rally.
>>524712777It's not about the money, it's about denying your silver to jews
>>524727032Zoomers don't understand what Radio Shack is, period. Goddamn Radio Shack was useful as a techie in the 90s. They always had the kind of extremely specific shit you needed, transistors, boards, resistors, switches, etc. nobody carries that kind of shit commonly anymore.
>>524725280Look at how terrified this kike is
>>524726133Yeah it can.
>>524712830It's called a Bull Flag, learn to TA, tradelet.
>>524727716artificial bull flag?
>>524727607Technically all the things at radio shack are available on amazon or aliexpress today, but having everything laid out in a clear precise manner made projects and learning that much more intuitive.There's still a mom+pop electronics store nearby that I visit regularly, if only to ensure they stay in business.
>>524712726Just buy and chill bro.Dont overthink it.
>>524712726It's going to explode by $5+ in 2 days time.Get ready for FX scalps when the Chinese market opens.
>>524712726Buy. Current paper to physical ratio is 300:1. There is a massive shortage and the only way out for them is to somehow tank the paper side but they don't have the supply to do it. It's going to break $120 probably around February or March. You could try to wait a bit in January where they'll try to suppress prices again, probably try to keep around $65 since no one is going to sell below that, but after that it's going to explode.
UAE physical price is like $125 per oz, Japan over $100, Shanghai was going for $89. I don't see how silver doesn't go triple digits in early 2026.My LCS was out of 1oz rounds after my purchase, picked up enough to finally break past the 500oz mark for my stack. Feels good man.>>524727663Look how salty that HEEB is, SETF is still living rent free in his head.
>>524712726Sell me.your stack
>>524727764Everything is artificial - its a MAN MADE MARKET. That's why trends can be analyzed.The short term price suppression is stalling against contracts maturing on Jan 20, if I recall correctly. COMEX just changed the rules regarding derivatives to help stall the price change. But China has declared a full stop to metals export and that'll go into effect sometime in January as well.So you can expect the price to crab until it explodes upward again.Just look at everything MADE with silver exploding in price to know silver itself isn't done pumping. A new Gforce 5090 is running $4000 right now.
Tick tock
>>524715832You gonna double your money this new year my boy.
>>524713236>solar panelsLmao
>>524712726The point of investing in metals is that they hold steady value while the currency you bought it with depreciates in value due to inflation. If you bought silver as a speculative asset to increase the amount of dollars you possess then you missed the point of investing in metals entirely, just go ahead and sell.
>>524712837fony lidyrn yo poltards this board is beyond retarded at this pointdont sell until you see normies panic buying old and silver, you see them have talks on CNN and good morning america on how to buy silver and shit
>>524724143How do you trade on the China market?
>>524728167Beijing Rose hereTick tock Gweilo>And they're right
>>524728163nvidia says there's no silver in their gpus
>>524712912NoIt means the burger shekel is worth 3x less
>>524720005We'll see what happens. If it does hit $50 it's going to go to the moon to like $90+.
>>524728365You don't, they do.
>>524728343dont listen to poltards this board is beyond retarded at this point lmao
>>524727990He is very clued up on the silver situation.
>>524727990AI chinaman was a great play by the CCP. >feed talking points and real data to a group that creates a few channels to cause a surge of interest in silver. throw in a few unconfirmed rumors or unfounded hype to add gas to the fire>use an easily replicable format that lets others copycat the originals to try and get views. they might be less informed and uncontrolled, but as long as they mantle the chinaman persona to hype up silver it serves the same purpose>use retail to squeeze the price and keep it high during a low volume period so the banks can't manipulate the price as low as they want>multiple videos a day to stay in the algorithm, catch new viewers, and psychologically ease silver holders so they don't panic sell
>>524728328The quintessential HODL
>>524728642That is an AI video generated persona spanning at least a dozen channels on YouTube. 90% correct on everything. Because China wants retail buyers to eat up the rest of physical silver in western markets before January second. It is 100% a CCP psy op that will help cripple western green tech and AI, but, if you follow the recommendations, will put you as an individual investor ahead. No shit. AI Asian Silver Guy is literally telling you how it will play out because it will deplete western silver markets. If you are a patriot and pro-semite then don't buy and ignore the propaganda.
>>524712726Cash out, this would be an awful time to buy, maybe try and plot a short
>>524729077Everybody knows the US is the world's bank, the US created China financially, technologically, the only reason they'd do this is if they were out of options
>>524712726Oof, Dec 2020 was 5 years ago
>>524728328Posting this without comment except to say:Give a man a fish, you've fed him for a day.Teach a man to fish. you've fed him for a lifetime.
>>524712726cash out and buy some calls with small percent of profit in case it rises even more.
>>524712992This
>>524727663>>524720894see text at bottom, your spam is manufactured, you are a jew calling others jews. oldest trick in the talmud. you've been found out, look how you recoil>seems pretty organic to methe only type of person that would say this is someone who is inorganically pushing this crap>>524721020>SETF has silver ended the fed yet? nope. and never will. setf threads are literally cia made. this has already been proven several times over.>>524721077>anything i don't like is globohomook cia globohomo fag agentany thread related to silver is cia propaganda, notice how when you call that out all the silverpedos jump on you about it? hmmm weird right? ever notice that when you start noticing patterns about silverpedos they start calling you a jew. it's just jews calling you jews. oldest trick in the talmud.
>>524712726kek baggies
>>524712726>SHOULD I BUY MORE NOWNo.>SELL?How much do you have? How much do you have relative to your other assets? If silver is over 20% of your portfolio and you've got over $20,000 in it then you might want to sell some to diversify your assets otherwise I'd just hold on to what I have and see where things go.
>>524729077Seriously fuck kikes, fuck Muttmerika, and fuck the banks. I’m stacking.
>>524729791>the CIA is telling people to end the fedbased?
>>524726133This, absolutely retarded to think you're even missing out on anything if you just hold it.If it was like 100k sure, but anything less than that and you're worried about losing out? On what, you can't buy shit with 50k anymore even.
>>524729384I can't spoonfeed you the history of silver in the past 20 years. But imagine an historical source of wealth that people ignored. It is significant to finance, but not central. So it got corrupt, and banks generated silver contracts based on silver that doesn't actually exist in vaults. Because who is counting it? Then silver suddenly becomes really really important, the most conductive element in the periodic table, and the only material that can sustain the green tech revolution and AI. So suddenly, all of this speculated silver, that doesn't exist, is demanded by industry. And it can't be delivered. And China, that controls 60-70% of global siver refinement, stops exports. Shit is fucked. Silver is going to explode in price next year. But that is also going to be parallel to western economies tanking.I'm not soon feeding you. I'm just laughing at this retarded thread and trolling. If you didn't stack you're fucked.
>>524712726400 Toz chad checking in. feels good man and the answer to your question is: invest, China is hoarding its silber, you should too
>>524713119>Invest it into my house>UpgradesThat's not investments, that's a sunk cost. Draw money from literally anything else, if you pull from investments for this you are losing money and not actually investing in anything.>>524713236>Roof repairsDo this and none of the other shit, buy a generator with your own income you bring in gradually.>>524713918Stop thinking about the retard shit and JUST do your roof. The other stuff can wait a year until you can cash flow it.
>>524712837A lot of FUD in here. Most likely banker goons that are shitting themselves right now.It will go higher anon, at least 10k but skies the limit really on it so to sell now is just to give the banks silver for pocket change
>>524729791The kvetching from this sheeny is off the charts
>>524726678>Why would you buy at historically high prices?The nature of how the market works means that at any point if an asset grows in value at all it's historically high, that's what inflation does.I bought at 50 and 60 and will buy at 70 next week, already made big profit on the historically high 50 and 60 (which are not actually high after inflation)
>>524730676>>524727663>>524720894see text at bottom, your spam is manufactured, you are a jew calling others jews. oldest trick in the talmud. you've been found out, look how you recoil>seems pretty organic to methe only type of person that would say this is someone who is inorganically pushing this crap>>524721020>SETF has silver ended the fed yet? nope. and never will. setf threads are literally cia made. this has already been proven several times over.>>524721077>anything i don't like is globohomook cia globohomo fag agentany thread related to silver is cia propaganda, notice how when you call that out all the silverpedos jump on you about it? hmmm weird right? ever notice that when you start noticing patterns about silverpedos they start calling you a jew. it's just jews calling you jews. oldest trick in the talmud.
Honestly i dont think there will be that big of a collapse, but i do think that the USD will probably get inflated to the point it will require some sort of "reset" or even replacement, and that there will be plenty of stock crashes thanks to the AI bubble, and china will have a larger sphere of influence on the global stage but none of that mad max-esque apocalipsis scenario, atleast not in my comfy homeland. It will probably be mostly americans getting hit the hardest by the collapse of the dollar.Therefore i'll just be a degenerate and gamble with options (cfd calls) on silver and gold, as they track the price related to USD, and they pay out in my non-inflated currency. Good luck to you all, anons.
>>524731049>butt hurt
>>524730155Good APU.When Elon Musk tweets "this isn't good" regarding China's silver clampdown... FFS... His handlers aren't letting him tweet this frivolously. This is a market shifting tweet. But the price hasn't skyrocketed a second time because the k!kes are still tweaking the market in damage control.It's all laid out, plain to see, for those that choose to see.But you faggots missed the window. Trading is closed mothercunts. January second is going to I hate-fuck you in the third eye.
>>524731332M O O NOON O O M
>>524729077I'm scalping it when the Chink stock exchange opens in 2 days.
>>524731505Yeah, that's basically the technicals chart of it
>>524731332>January second is going to I hate-fuck you in the third eye.Good thing I'm shielded from psychic attacks
>>524732028>low frequency plebNo, your pineal gland is just calcified due to fluoride
>>524731332I kind of doubt friday is going to be a blowout, they're probably gonna pull more tricks with another margin hike, more shorts, and a fed bailout to prevent as much growth as possible because if it explodes up on friday, then fomo builds over the weekend and will gap even more next week. the shanghai gold exchange is also closed this friday so the chinese won't be able to reapply pressure until mondayhttps://en.sge.com.cn/eng_news_Announcement/10002445
>>524731332I thought the chinese export ban was already priced in which explained the sudden surge to $83Perhaps we wont see an immediate giant green dildo but the beginning of a large bull run
>>524732120Oh that thing? The outsiders said they were going to start charging me for it so I cut my cables
>>524713320This is the beginning of the end for the US sovereign debt crisis. Sell your PM at your own peril.
>>524714248Good point. Ask yourself if you are speculating in silver for gains or are you using silver as a hedge against inflation as a store of value for your wealth. This guides your decision. If you choose to sell and take profit but are experiencing FOMO, you can always sell incrementally over time and spread out your risk (or reward).t. I have no silva
>>524725679I have heard this many times many times before. It was part of a prophecy told by Tyler Durden, mad captain of the ghostly pirate ship ZeroHedge. She is crewed by immortal silver schizos who have been cursed to suffered and toil for all the years in which they have believed the prophecy but been unable to see it fulfilled. Though they cannot die, and can even walk the bottom of the sea, their lives have been ashes in their mouths. Every silver dime they plundered they sent to Davy Jones'es Locker for safekeeping. And now that the prophecy appears on the verge of fulfillment, and the schizos are at risk of not being able to walk the bottom for much longer, they do not care to fetch their silver. They can't think of anything better to buy with their treasure than to watch the world burn.
Bought some more rounds and constitutional silver, I'm up to 569oz of silver and 1oz of gold.LCS was nearly out of rounds, and he said he was pretty low on the 10oz bars as well.
>>524732145It may not be and we might see some crazy volatility for a bit.But alea iacta est. A day, days, a week, weeks, this is in motion.
>>524732187There is no silver to fulfill contracts and there is no silver to fulfill green tech and AI agenda roadmaps. Paper silver claims so, but that absolute lie will be revealed in the new year.
So, is it going up or down?
you're extremely scared>>524731237>>524730676>>524727663>>524720894see text at bottom, your spam is manufactured, you are a jew calling others jews. oldest trick in the talmud. you've been found out, look how you recoil>seems pretty organic to methe only type of person that would say this is someone who is inorganically pushing this crap>>524721020>SETF has silver ended the fed yet? nope. and never will. setf threads are literally cia made. this has already been proven several times over.>>524721077>anything i don't like is globohomook cia globohomo fag agentany thread related to silver is cia propaganda, notice how when you call that out all the silverpedos jump on you about it? hmmm weird right? ever notice that when you start noticing patterns about silverpedos they start calling you a jew. it's just jews calling you jews. oldest trick in the talmud.
>>524734483Pffft
>sell silver>to receive a piece of toilet paper/digits on a screen that is rapidly losing purchasing power>that you can't purchase anything useful forWhy are norockers so retarded?
>>524734483Torpedo = silverpedo ?
>>524733764You've won bro!Enjoy the money in a year or two.
>>524713318There are silver mines all over the world that arent being mined, the prices were too low in the past to mine them.
>>524728054>300:1Dude what try 3000
>>524735284Perfect timing. Fire up those bulldozers boys, let's go mining or something.
>>524714817>>524714904>Nogdaboffs.png
>>524734701>>524735127why do you keep responding with an image or webm? and why do you keep responding at all, it's a waste of your time
>>524712726>do nothing
>>524735679Look I found a webm of you!!!!!!>Pic rel
it's probably not going to keep spiking like this for longtripling the price over such a short period means that every mothballed mine on Earth just became wildly profitable
>>524736077why do you keep responding with an image or webm? and why do you keep responding at all, it's a waste of your time
>>524727020The bullion dealer I sold to wrote me a cheque
>>524736119Your mother giving birth to you was a waste of time
>>524712912Silver isn't used much in electronics. Technically it is the most used industry for silver but the amount of silver in most components is near zero. Usually less than 0.3 grams (0.01 oz). Your $700 phone might go up to $700.5 if they actually get that autistic about prices.
>>524736506Now go look up the new silver lithium battery tech!
>>524712726Holy fuck I regret not buying 500.00 of the stuff 2 yrs ago when I had the chance. Going to wait till next year until the damn thing stabilizes then purchase myself 500.00 worth of it.
>>524713823This. The entire faggot globohomo system depends on cheap silver. You can't have ai data centres, cameras up every ass, solar power faggotry without silver. Buying silver is not just about making it, is a strategic move to break globohomos back by denying them a resource.
>>524736653Silver used as some part of the electrolyte? What would that even do besides speed up charge times? And technically have a higher output potential as well I guess but EV don't seem to have issues with that.
I have seen these dumbass silver shill threads going on almost a decade now, and yet the fed is still here, silver still not drastically out of alignment with overall inflation, and yet these threads keep getting made, weird.
>>524713823Could the gov buy and sell silver through shells or other such bs to deflate the price?
i was offered 8$/oz last week by a gold shopits a scam
people from australia and the uk are dumb as shit, no wonder they got taken over by muslims
>>524737246Silver is used for the anodes within upcoming and soon to be ubiquitous solid state batteries intended for ev cars, drones, humanoid robots and more.
>>524737410Their governments exist to suppress "nazism", that is the post war consensus.
Just bought a couple of onces, gotta start somewhere with little money.
>>524737426Yup, it's also used as an aqueous reagent for oxidizing reagents, and its salts are great for catalyzing grignard reactions.
>>524737661I hope the price stabilizes, thinking of buying some soon too.
>>524727716>Chart doodler
>>524734701source please
>>524737877I'm not google. Find your own sources bitch.
>>524737756I bought it at 101, when the price in CAN is 97, so not too shabby
>>524737902for aoc. and can u please find some of her private feet pics 2? thnks. I will b expecting the link momentarily
>>524738184oh, shit, i mnt pls
>>524725280>no ucheck out the big brain on brad
>>524725372>niggerish putting silver in quotesthat shit's for soldering, it doesnt even make sense to mention its not 100% you retardbut you bet your ass that shit is way expensive now, just because
>>524725679>JPMorgan.... Bear Stearns... wait a minuteEpstein providing 50 something mil in a loanbet on BS that took 'em down, and JPM paid him back 71somethin mil after the fact
>>524725943kek I forgot about what RS had become by the end and it was the only thing anyone remotely zoomerish would have seen
>>524712726Let me put it this way op, alot of people cashed out around the 35 to 40 range, so cashing out at 80 cant be a wrong move no matter how you slice it, maybe it goes to 100 but lets be real, the jews are probably going to prevent it somehow or maybe it only goes there for a day or something.
>>524726133the price tag on the 69 roadrunner my buddy's uncle bought from the dealership was $3300ish
>>524727607>nobody carries that kind of shit commonly anymore.fo real, you only order that shit online these daysI gotta recap some old shit, speaking of which
>>524729791>any thread related to silver is cia propagandaI think we got a real live actual tard herelike I'm talking flat earth tier earf is 6000 years old levels of tard
>>524712726>should I buy a massively overinflated asset at the top?this board is so beyond retarded
>>524712726off course you dont buy now, are you retarded?
>>524738962its arguably still undervalued, considering the gold to silver ratio is supposed to be like 1 to 15 historically if i remember correctly, problem is thats how its naturally supposed to be but kikes mess up the markets and now no one really knows what will happen
>>524738962>massively overinflated
>>524739051>>524739048continue providing exit liquidity to the institutional investors cashing out right now, they thank you for your retardation
>are you retarded?you're asking if silverhomosexuals are retarded? the answer is yes, how is this even a question. they're some of the dumbest people on 4chan. you want to see maximum dumb? go to any setf thread
>>524739112that's mildly offensive
imagine all the silver stackers right now that have been going all in on silver for 10 years and have 5x their value
>>524712726What is that red weird line and black lines on the white canvas
>>52473927995% of them are racist to, looks like 2026 is our year
>>524739279I'm sure the silver investors in 1980 thought they were very clever, until the price went underwater for 31 years
>>524712837>30 grandthat's not really life changing money in leaf bux. If you have debts to pay off then yeah go ahead and sell. I personally believe silver will be much higher but everyone has to do what's in their best interest
>>5247393441980 price reflects the real value. How much is 35$ in 1980 adjusted for inflation? Extrapolate the recent 200% gains on that and we're getting close to the real current value.
>>524739344they can sell their gains now and make 3x what they originally put in and continue to hold they had before the price spike.say they put in 250k, and their holdings are worth 1m now. they can sell 750k now, keep 250k and win no matter what happens to price
>>524738962>>>524712726 (OP) #>>should I buy a massively overinflated asset at the top?You're going to be waiting more than a day as markets are closed. You will see the consequences or you ignorance.No silver for you Gweilo. Ship sailed, all gone, too bad. Fuck you, poor man. Enjoy you useless paper money. Bye bye dum dum. Zaijian!
>>524739344>1980Note in the chart how the dollar fully decoupled from PM's in 1971
society wont function that well with expensive silver but we really need silver mines as a primary production so there has to be some price discovery at some point - expect halfway elevated ceiling to cause mining investment so manipulated to half current level
>>524740044 Cheked. It takes a new silver mine between 10 and 20 years to actually start production. Samsung recently just bought a silver mine out of desperation. Rumor has it that Tesla is looking. Recycling silver in 2026 and the near future is not an option.
>>524739618>>524739781These prices are already inflation adjusted. People had to baghold for 30 years just to regain their initial investment. But I'm sure you're smarter than them and not just another rube, buying silver off institutional investors who are selling out after already making their gains
>>524740331>PM prices have gone up proportional to the dollar's loss of valueThat shouldn't be too surprising. Metals are often a 'flight to safety' so they remain low when prices and values are stable.Gas generators are dirt cheap in the southwest until hurricane season starts.
>>524740331China, which controls 60-70% of silver refining is basically stopping exports January 1. Elon Musk fucking tweeted about this you peasant. J. P. Morgan resolved their short position months ago. They are the largest private holder of physical in the western world. why? Because they have been artificially suppressing the price for almost a decade and accumulating it cheap. If you know, you know. If you don't you'll be sucking strangers in back alleys for 1960 dimes to pay the rent in 2026.
>>524740674>China, which controls 60-70% of silver refining is basically stopping exports January 1.Remind me what happened with all the other Chinese trade barriers. Oh right, they were overturned within a few weeks after Trump had trade talks with them. >Elon Musk fucking tweeted about thisimagine taking investment advice from a low-functioning ketamine addict
>>524740741Excellent. Enjoy the array of strange men penetrating your buttocks for rent money in dark corners in moonlight as you tearfully reflect on the fallacies of this willfully igorant one dimensional geopolitical economic perspective that left you poor and destitute and with no future prospects.
>>524712726>WHAT DO I DO Pic related
>>524740741Meh, I'm only placing a "bet" of like 500 or 1kUSD, so it's not a big deal for me if the price pops. Been meaning to stack some silver anyhow.
>>524742212You would be far better off chucking that money into the S&P500 or NASDAQ (SPY or QQQ ticker symbols)
>>524742235But I kind of want shiny boomer rocks bro. Maybe on the 3rd quarter next year I'll do a stupid bet on that.
>>524742235Hisssssssd. Yesssss child yesssss. Put the money in NASDAQ my little goyimling. Hissssss, yesssss, good goyimling yessssss. Those nassssty pressscuous metalssss anonssss are delussssional.