>>524751999lol they're so fucked.implementation of euro was worst experience of my life, increase of prices and inflation are just fucking wild.
Fuck you gaynigger faggot.
>>524751999imagine being a eurocuck
>>524752217Did you know that = in € represents stability - like no inflation and shit?Welcome to the club suckers.
>>524751999>Germany and France incorporate another leech they're gonna have to raise taxes to subsidiseBased masochists
>>524752316It shouldn't be much of a difference for the bulgarian since the leva was already pegged to the euro. The only problem is that they won't be able to print money
>>524751999What will they contribute to the EU?
>>524752463>contribute?
>>524752217You will get used to it.
>>524752432Our currency was also pegged to euro. Your prices will go 30-40% up by the end of the year especially food and rent. Screencap this.>>524752371>another leechPeople thinking that EU is some kind of neoliberal charity...
So not only are we a part of the loser humiliation ritual puppet construct of America, also known as the EU, without gaining much benefit out of it, but we're also a part of the second-order humiliation ritual which is the currency that has literally never done anything positive to the economies under it other than maybe the German auto industry which got deindustrialized anyway. And we joined it right on the last couple of years of its existence.Imagine being us. The only bigger loser that I can think of is Palestine and Ukraine.
>>524752593Sure that must be why Poland's economy went into the stratosphere via the British pound and all the slavshit countries were building brand new infrastructure while ours fell into disrepair.
>>524752131Dude the prices are already high and if they get any more higher people simply will not be able to consooom even simple things. We got the highest prices of dairy in all EU.
>>524752432>bulgarian since the leva was already pegged to the euroSame as Litas was and prices became 1 to 1 aka what costs 1LT became 1EU
>>524752842you can see them here https://compare.nedostavka.net/en/bulgaria-and-germany-price-comparison-of-products-and-goods-bg-delast update from a week ago
>>524752654>benevolent west hands out free money to the poor SlavsHow simple you can be?
>>524753001Yes that's exactly what the EU is about because in essence it's a socialist union, therefore its goal is making everyone equally poor.
>>524753090Oh, I thought it was about pumping up the German economy
>>524753090More like corporate socialism. If you're owner of company so upper mid or high class you'll earn more than ever especially with EU initiatives where taxes are collected from everyone then channeled to those that are already rich bcause as my rich friend sad - only money is making money, what good is to give money to the poors.
>>524752654>>524753090The bong is right, we leeched off so much from the EU that it's borderline criminal. Why they willingly hand us so much gibs is beyond me.
>>524753362Granted we might soon be asked to hand over more gibs that we receive at around 2027/28. In fact if it weren't for the Ukrainian war we would have been a net contributor by now.
>>524752131Prices have increased because of worldwide money printing and shekelering, not because of the euro
>>524752432RON is next.
>>524753435you'll see anon
>>524752131Shitgarians are fucked not because of some lousy currency but mainly because they are turkroach scum and subhuman pagang roaches who should have their population reduced by 99%
>>524752842>We got the highest prices of dairy in all EU.Land of Bolgas were always sand without water
>>524753489Elaborate further buddy. Give me some raw numbers. Didn't the salaries go up a bit as well?
>>524753435>Prices have increased because of worldwide money printing and shekelering>not because of the eurolitelary one Trilion jewro was printed since jew19how many boosters?
>>524753693They did but ofc nowhere near as prices. Food, rent, services got fucked. Shit got so bad that govt made a list of essential groceries that have govt capped prices so poors won't die of hunger.
>>524752842Bulgariabro what does your economy actually do? I think the only thing I've seen from your country is Sheep/Goat Fetta so weird that you have high dairy prices
>>524754002It's good but the prices are getting too damn high. Stuff like diary and vegetables production (our traditionally strong exports) are total disaster now but that's just us being retards.
>>524753864Fun fact: the mafia here, which is headed by the turkish ethnic party, that is ran by a sanctioned oligarch who is nevertheless secretly supported by the west, attempted to do this in advance by creating government-ran shops (actually ran by him) that sell everything at a loss, effectively making the rest of us pay for it through our taxes so that the people never notice that their food has become unaffordable. Pensioners literally cannot afford to eat 2000kcal anymore so to prevent a Soviet-style collapse and rebellion they just acted in advance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bXdh5NRyYE
>>524751999Dumbasses.
>>524754002>what does your economy actually dopajeet-tier outsourcing servicesand raw materials, basically Africa
>>524752463Goulash recipes.
>>524751999I'm tired of this shit.
God bless Bulgaria. The first girl I was in love with and had sex with was a bulgarian. Desislava. Wherever you are I salute you.
>>524751999Happy New Year Bulgaranons.You will regret it!
>>524751999>Welcome to the EuroHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAMORE BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODbulgars, you got fucked.oh well
>>524752432>difference for the bulgarian since the leva was already pegged to the euro.yeah so were we, back in the day.20% inflation just before euro, and 20% after
>>524754272Kek. Canada subsidizes stores because of all th theft from crackheads since its politically not acceptable to punish them. So the government just gives stores 15 million on the low to cover the theft.
>>524752463>What will they contribute to the EU?another money pit to wash and tunnel money for the rich west faggots
>>524754388Desislava is a good name for pajeets that settle in eastern europe
>>524753693Whats also insane is prices here are way higher than italy and germany for some reason. You get 0 benefits from common market due to german supermarket cartels.I now know a ton of poeple that go to italy for shoping from capital. Coffe and choclate is insane here. Its like we are going back in past.
>>524753362>Why they willingly hand us so much gibs is beyond me.and yet, nothing good happenedroads, hospitals, schools... nope
>>524754272>turkish ethnic partyWhy does that even exist? A balkan country with turks. Like why didnt you guy kill them like everyone else.
>>524751999Who voted for this? Fucking no one. All those gypsy niggers need to be send back to India
>>524754419Chill tf down slovenia
>>524753459Nah that would actually wreck us, fuck the EURO
>>524754582stupid murrifaggotfuck off back to mexico you subhuman shit
>>524752316>>524752217bahahahahaha, the euros will buy your country full for pennies and you're gonna be minority in your own country.
>>524753459bahahahahaha, never.
>>524754498>You get 0 benefits from common market due to german supermarket cartels.Exactly. The cartels rig the prices in such a way that the domestic production is cornered and forced to sell to them, and then they repackage it in Germany and bring it back here for a +20% premium on average compared to Germany. The EU has been devastating to the local economy. People who accuse us of leeching have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. And don't even get me started on the condition of our membership to stop 4 (four) nuclear reactors, or the fact that the EU blocked our Nordstream-equivalent just because they could, meanwhile Germany was allowed to do whatever the fuck it wanted to. The westerners are the leeches.>>524754552Implied threat of a Serbia-like scenario if we were to touch them. The leaders of that party constantly threaten with their favorite phrase, the "ethnic peace", whenever someone goes against them. They're backed by the west and intentionally kept here as a lever of influence and they're allowed to buy half of their votes, with a huge portion of them voting from straight up Turkey. Yes, turks in Turkey are allowed to vote if they can prove that grandpa was Bulgarian. Just think about that for a second.
>>524754552Don't listen to that faggot, he is a delusional neocommunist
>>524751999They're mindless NATO kikes drones so it will be just the place for them.
>>524751999>its new year, russniggers and muttniggers insta seething at EUnothing you can do chuds lmao
>>524754697All communists deserve to be crucified, including trotksyist PPDB-voting filth like you. Also fuck Putin and Dugin.Like how stupid do you have to be to infer that I'm anywhere left of the center from my posts here.
>>524754663>>524754690Ya we be chillin w our currency frfr
>>524754772Votes from turkey are around 13000. This is not a "huge portion" of anything. Again this is a delusional commie faggot. He doesn't know what he is talking about.
>>524753090Better socialist than self inflicted jeet
>>524752131Many Croatian seem to make a fuckton of money out of squeezing out German and Austrian pay pigs. Vacation in your cunt is actually more expensive than vacation in Germany + it was full of Indians or Nepalese (?) Immigrants, nice country and culture though. I especially appreciated the many monuments and exhibitions to your independence war.
welcome bros
>>524754498>Its like we are going back in past.Its a damn Serbs again right?
>>524754872The votes from Turkey are a combined ~43k you lying tranny filth https://results.cik.bg/pe202410/rezultati/32_TR.html . 93% of all votes from Turkey are registered for the ethnic party, which were two since they split. They vote almost exclusively for DPS. They are a tighter ethnic voting block than the Somalis of Minnesota, who vote exclusively for the party that destabilizes and corrupts Bulgaria so as to advance the interests of mother Turkey. This is 43k of the ~300k that DPS gets all the time, which is almost one sixth of its entire electorate. The other part is gypsies and turks within Bulgaria.What a retarded redditor holy shit. Look at how stupid this nigger is and how he has zero comprehension of politics and ideology, where he accuses an obvious ethnonationalist of communism. This is the level of stupidity that we're forced to deal with on a daily basis. It's not even shilling they're just stupid.
>>524754970Don't let shitskins make u feel bad or sum fren, Germany is still a rlly good country w the best history ever, happy new years:)
>>524752612kekkonen; yeah great idea to give up sovereignty over something important like the meaning of your long term contracts to a bunch of glowies in brussels who (probably tough to imagine, but really) give even less of a fuck about bullgarians than your local corrupt fucks.worked great for all us other europoors. any day now the eussr is going to start doing something that isnt 100% anti-based
>>524754552there were too many of them, and focused in economically important areas
>>524753362>The bong is right, we leeched off so much from the EU that it's borderline criminal. Why they willingly hand us so much gibs is beyond me.you are a tiny nation; easy to propagandize with printed monopoly money to sing the praises of our new self imposed overlords
>>524755357It's okay, in neo-socialist everyone is equally poor (unless ur the elite), and one more thing, i don't think the OG euro socialist/communism countries had fagtrannyism and rapefugees though
>>524751999Didnt vote for this #4682463I dont want more poor retards in the eu
>>524755444neo-socialism*
>>524751999Welcome to the sinking ship, fellow travelers
>>524752463Crime and poverty.
>>524755444>and one more thing, i don't think the OG euro socialist/communism countries had fagtrannyism and rapefugees thoughwell they did have it but only as an export product intended to destabilize their adversaries
>>524755562Yeah they had some students from nigger countries
>>524755154has it always been like that
>>524755441Smartest noyderlanded Bong shittakls Poland and Monaco that have same colour flag..but bit diferent is shittalking him>Praise allah that Western Pakistan finnaly get rid of those slavic leeches and will rule sea again fuueled by jeet power
>>524755676>Slavic leechesit's okay cuz they're returning home, it wouldn't be a problem anymore;)
>>524755457kraut please, you're the biggest leeches in the eu. Literally siphoning shekels from everyone with your jew companies.>>524755154DPS was literally created by the commie secret service in order to collect the ethnic vote into a controlled by the former commies party instead of going to SDS.
Welcome, Bulgaria, to your slower economic growth. Economic suicide
>>524751999дa ви eбa пyткaтa мaйнa fuck all eurocrats fuck all pro-euro. i hope russia conquers all of europe. fucking die euro trash.
>>524755751>kraut please, you're the biggest leeches in the eu. Literally siphoning shekels from everyonewell...isnt that "the purpose" of this whole EU?>>524755721>it wouldn't be a problem anymoreAs they say "Do not steal...state does not like competition"
>>524755827>population halved in 30 years>poorest state in the EU>brownest most retarded member of EU>most corrupt shithole in the EU by far>economic growthWhew
>>524754873Ukraine certainly is the expert at self inflicted pain.
>>524755646yes, and it was worse before. And every time someone tries to do something about it the Turkish state intervenes to protect DPShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnYcq3QtWHo
>>524751999after hearing "rices won't increase after introducing euro" prepare to hear now "stop believing your eyes, things always used to cost the same"
>>524755357>kekkonen;I have to ask, what did you mean by this? Kek, or the former Finnish pres. Kekkonen?
>>524752316Yes, the euro = a slow and inexorable decline until the union collapses in 5 years triggering a crisis similar to the fall of the USSRYou're a cuck
>>524751999I don't know why europeans simp so hard for the EU when its the primary reason for why most of Europe is a fucking shit hole
>>524756860I agree, Europe's has become a shithole, however you're in no position to talk you absolute nigger. The fucking cheek
>>524757100Anglos dindu nuffin', ever.
>>524752432On the contrary. For each created lev Bulgarian National Bank had to have reserve worth the created one.. Banks had to have 12% reserves. Now it's only 1% in the euro zone.Credit party everyone! It can't get worse than Greece or can it? We'll see very soon.
>>524755751shitskin shut up and go away, youre a net negative shitholeyou and pooplaks are the reason the eu is going to collapse
>>524752131We told you so, but you did it anyways. Also your Tesla coins look weird.
>>524754695>Implied threat of a Serbia-like scenario if we were to touch them.Ok now but why not in the past during balkan wars or ww2 at least? I see your comunists tried to get rid of them. And that they would return back from turkey. They must be parasites to do shit like that. Also im confident you chased a lot of them away aIn past. Why not finish the job.>>524754697I looked it up 10% of bulgaria is turkish he is not lying.>>524755439You solve that by expulsions like everyone else. Only places in balkans that remained muslim are mountains whete ottomans put soldiers fearing the revolut (albania).And places where austria prevented expulsions due to divide and conquer strategy (Bosnia).
>>524754631let him live in delusion it won't last long
Russians were always genetically better,.. stupid but clean,.. no wonder every fucked up place hates them
>>524752842>trust me bro, companies don't use any pretence they get to squeeze you outLmao. We saw it when Germany adopted the Euro, instead of halve the prices, they just changed the Deutsche Mark to Euro. Now things cost the double than before.Similar thing during covid and later. Just increasing because all increasing.
>>524757533>They must be parasites to do shit like thatActually most of them are hard working.
>>524751999Ayo homeboys get dem gibs
>>524757829Debt soon to be 300% of our GDP. Looking forward!
>>524751999Epic, some shitskin slavs are going to be using the same currency as me, so I'll have to pay more taxes basically.
>>524757533there were less turks in yugoslavia to begin with for obvious reasonseastern half of bulgaria was full of turks (and greeks on the coast)expulsions mean entire regions would become empty and the economy would collapse, because they almost exclusively occupied Dobruja and other flat fertile regions like Thrace where much of the agriculture was located inand the average person wasn't a blood thirsty animal either
>>524751999We took the tip, now we're expecting the full thrust and hope it doesn't rip us apart.
>>524752842>Dude the prices are already high
>>524758065abiut that,.. welcome to mesoreznica,.. apparently covid shit did not kill enough people,.. w have this Rusia thing,.. thez will kill everzone that goes around their border,..cha ching
sadly bulgarian eurofags called ruski-fans and shit when we yelled how evil the euro is that and no one listened to steve hanke(who made our modern lev) and max baklyan(who has made detailed videos on how bad the euro is) pretty much a bunch of scumNeed I mention the fact that the people who supported their protested are against the people who accepted the euro because it's not the sjw party that got them euro but the mafia party.And not only that our politicians don't care about us but somehow the euro would make us richer/better and to that I asked those fucks when did our leaders suddenly find jesus to care about us?Or why would the CORRUPT politicians want the euro?They all called me and everyone else payed ruski shills, even though we gave them logic,facts,statistics and what not.Hell they woldn't even listen to people REAL experts on the euro that have made a playlist on why the euro is bad https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9S-yPRMNppqndj06b6X54W6gz7DIywLdI can say a lot more but i'm not gonna bother with inferior euroscum who say they are for free speech yet censor, who say they are straight but yet support fag politicians and sympathizers and say they're white/christian but yet welcome muslims and browns. THE EUROFAGS ARE SCUM ON THIS PLANET RIGHT THE KIKES AND GERMAN SUBHUMANSEUROFAGS ARE RETARDS AS WELL AND TO ANYONE SAYING I'M A RUSKI SHILL DO EXPLAIN HOW? BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER GIVE AN EXPLANATION
>>524751999>bulgaria boards blatantly sinking shipI see.
>>524751999Congrats, you guys became our financial slavesEnjoy your +40% inflation by the end of the year
>>524751999Welcome to the Grand Party, Bulgaria. Praise be to Ursula. Praise the Party. Follow the Party.
>>524751999This is why I'm a NEETWhy work for a state that goes against my interests, every single time? Invade and Enslave eastern subhumans again, Germany. Then we'll talk about me working.
>>524754002They're welfare niggers, basically zero economy and full of corruption. Whenever you see a product that says Made in the European Union, it's probably Bulgaria.
>>524751999>Let poor car theives and gypsies into the EU>Give them free movement >Give them your currencywhat could go wrong? lol
>>524758413because EUfags and the scum in brussels destroyed our farms with their stupid regulations
>>524757533We did do that during the balkan wars (Bulgaria was significantly more turkish during liberation) but we left some of them due to external pressure. Primarily from Britain. The communist one was the full version that was just point blank you're turkish -> you're out. Actually they only wanted them to change their names, but the turks are ethnically and culturally hostile to the extent of them preferring to abandon their possessions and flee to Anatolia over abandoning their zutt arabism, so the majority of them just fucked off out of spite. It's a partial self-deportation in a way, they hate the Bulgarian identity and names so much that they'd rather be poor peasants in Anatolia than to integrate here.As for the British pressure that I'm talking about, Britain consistently tried to rile up muslims to rebel against us because they thought that Bulgaria is a puppet machination of the Russian Empire so they had a fixation on minimizing and destroying us and always sided with our enemies when they were cleansing Bulgarians out of their own territories (the San Stefano Bulgaria that Britain was incoherently obsessed with the prevention of). A great example of exactly that is this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislas_Saint_ClairAnd lastly for the 10% turks part, you're wrong. They're 8%. But you're missing the second electorate of DPS, the gypsies, who're also 8%. The census downplays them because a gypsy that identifies as a Bulgarian is counted as Bulgarian. In reality they're 7-8% and they mostly sell their votes to DPS. Both of these minorities are weaponized by the turkish minority party as a way of destabilizing Bulgaria. They also use them as a meat shield in front of the international community should we ever touch their party with an implied Serbia response that will absolutely be backed by the UK and half of the west.
>>524752654You made more money, but the money didn't go into your country. It went into your banks and private investors then straight out into physical paradises. The British "people"are irrelevant to the process
>>524751999Happy New Year!It is good seeing the anti-EVRO shills seethe.
>>524758413Not quite. Most people who make any money here work for jewish foreign companies. They do work, but they're used for low wagies. With the euro and inflation I doubt this will continue much more. Outsourcing will just move to a more cheap country. And foreigners will buy us out of our country.
>>524758540I know, but your parents wanted to be part of the EU. For us Turks, the worst thing happened: the USSR fell. Now the wages are down because of the EU and the euro.Anyway, we have a small Bulgarian supermarket. Is there anything good I should try?
>>524758711foreign companies that support the local economies of small towns are already downscaling, because it's no longer profitable for them to operate heret. got laid off before the holidays
>>524757327i hope u enjoy
>>524758737sirene,banica,tikvenik,musaka(translated cиpeнe,бaницa,тиквeник,мycaкa)
>>524758711Probably the country in the EU with the worst economy is most likely Turkey or one of the Balkan countries.
>>524758792I am
>>524757524As if we had a choice. If Germans started cutting their legs off for no reason, Plenković would finance campaigns to promote double amputations.West does it = it is good therefore we must do it.There was no referendum, there never is, because they don't even try to pretend that we have a choice.
>>524758853
>>524758806Looks good; half of the stuff we have in Turkey too. Or they are very similar with a Bulgarian twist.Do you want to know something funny? Serbians are making halal cheese now.
>>524758543>left some of them due to external pressure. Primarily from BritainLike I suspected that country is demonic. Always aiding evil wherever they can. Turkey could have been completley chopped up and desttroyed but nooo must sabotage russia at all costs. >>524754695>And don't even get me started on the condition of our membership to stop 4 (four) nuclear reactors, or the fact that the EU blocked our Nordstream-equivalentThats just to make you a slave dependant on them. Now they are taking masive common debt as EU in order to prevent states leaving and to impose direct eu wide taxation. How did EU even get in controll of bulgaria werent you guys mostly pro russian?
>>524759151I have a question for you, Jew: Is Netanyahu part of some kind of death cult?
>>524759124LIBERAL COMMUNIST BRAINWASHINGaslo I'm not for russia nor care about it.I'm mostly for bulgarians and for bulgaria and have haven't for any of the parties in power or that are registered in bulgaria because none share my views
>>524757810Hard working in scamming. Jews also claim they are hard working. If they are so petty that they dont want to change their names they should fuck off to turkey. What sane person would stay in a country his ansestors opressed and where poeple hate you in general. Not even as a conqueror but as a parasite.
>>524759305haven't voted*
>>524758775I know! A friend who made €5000 as a senior developer for a jewish company got laid off because the company is moving out of Bulgaria...But even he is from the people who never understood that the only reason these companies here is to exploit cheap labor. They were never here to uplift Bulgarians from poverty or with any other noble intention...
>>524752463Kids for Epstein island v2.
>>524759451That would be Romania.
Bulgarian border guards wish you a happy new year.
>>524754970Yeah? Now go somewhere that isn't the coastal part. They rob tourists as much as they can, then buy apartments in Zagreb and jack up rent prices. If you're Croatian, you either work in tourism or in Germany if you want to have a semi-decent life.The government also brags about receiving gorillions of euros fron the EU but we never see that go anywhere except their own pockets. We don't even have a functional railroad, 200 km trips take 7 hours.Also infinite handouts for gypsies, they get new fridges, washers, freezers etc every year and then sell them as scrap metal for a quick profit. And every so often they send a couple million euros to Herzegovina to build a new church. That's where both EU money and our own taxes go, gyppos and gyppo-adjacent subhumans in BiH.The rest can get fucked, and does on a regula basis.
>>524751999A new leech to the German tit. We can't anymore anons, we are empty, dry, crawling in despair under a thousand cuts
>>524759937You will always be less empty than us. Give.
>>524759764my respect for bulgaria went +1>>524751999i hate EUSSR will all my heart i hope we are never dragged into it
>>524760016Serbia will be what it is whether it is in the EU or not.
>>524760136No it wont, every place has ups and downs I think we had a long streak of downs since 1945. to 2025. because of commies and their spawn eventualy nature will ger rid of them and we will have 100 years of prosperity where we will get to 20M population then cycle of commie retardation starts again
>>524760229Yea go read on our 19th century history and society and realise this is our civilisational maximum because we're in the same shit before commies and after, but true, older commies are bigger degenerates.However if you think this youth will create something better you don't know anything, how old are you? Young people here behave like disobedient niggers in schools and never receive any punishment for it. Back when I went there was at least some sort of punishment, but it was already bad by then.So no there won't be a better Serbia, only more Arkans and Vucics.
>>524759124>How did EU even get in controll of bulgaria werent you guys mostly pro russian?We were with Germany in both world wars. People, including the elite of that unholy shithole above France, always mistake Bulgaria as some Russiamaxxed Belarus-in-the-Balkans and hence their hatred of us. No. We love Germany but we do not hate Russia. That's it. People always look at us and see our script and religion (especially you as a Croatian) and language in general and then conclude that this country is in love with Russia because we do not hate any of these cultural elements that are shared with Russia. But because we do not hate Russia does not necessarily mean that we want to be their little Belarus. It's not a black and white thing where you're either slava ukraini or 100% paid by Putin.But I get it even literally-Hitler couldn't make sense of this view when the king tried to explain it to him and Ribbentrop.
>>524759961> serbialol sorry bro you're not in the club
>>524759338We don't have hate for each other, believe it or not.>>524760016You will be the last country to join EUSSR (if ever). Russia and Turkey will join before Serbia. Don't worry. They want every country in NATO first and then in EU. It's a slow rape with some seduction first. They started with grants and propaganda and suddenly we joined the eurozone.
>>524751999>Happy New Year Bulgaria. Welcome to the Euro.Welcome to the Euro suckers!Get ready to starve!
>>524760829καλημέρα γείτοναOur inflation in the past 5 years has been much higher than that but we faked the statistics.
>>524760829coming to greek this summer, cant wait to steal from your shops and harass your women
>>524751999You'll be fine Bgbros, your standard of living won't be worse nor necessarily better DUE to Euro. Making transactions, especially in eurozone will be more convenient, your interest rates will be reduced a bit. Prices should increase a bit, that is most of your products that haven't been directly influenced by prices abroad (like price of some services and domestic products), but if you have a high inflation now, Euro won't influence it besides that one time small change. As you can see, both some Euro and non Euro economies have both high and low inflation rate. Effect on inflation is very very limited, it mostly has to do with geopolitics and geoeconomics as well as the structure and health of your domestic economy. Possible worry about Bulgarian products becoming more expensive because of revaluation is unwarranted. Ever since we got Euro, trade with Bosnia and Serbia hasn't been affected negatively, despite them having weaker currencies. And prices in Hungary, Bosnia and Serbia has increased a lot, to a point where they do their shopping in Croatia. Don't know when that was the case, except in very specific cases (lack of stores in their country or area).
>>524760829How bad is it in Greece now? How much do a loaf of bread, eggs, and other necessities cost you now?
>>524758834It's literally Bulgaria kekFollowed by Croatia, Hungary and probably RomaniaTurkey is neither EU nor human
>>524761128wtf are you babbling about are your even real?
>>5247611280.0000001 Plenkycoin has been deposited into your account
>>524751999I still don't understand why people were saying that we're gonna loose our national sovereignty when we adopt the euro when for years our currency was pegged first to the Deutche Mark and then to the Euro. Literally nothing will change.
>>524761947>Literally nothing will change.lol, watch the magic happen.
>>524761869I am very much real. >Pic relI am glad that Serbia doesn't have Euro, so they can still enjoy their cup of coffee with 2022. prices.>>524761928Holly shit I'm getting paid!
>>524761947>Literally nothing will change.It's not about sovereignty or independence, you lost that quite a bit ago. It's about the fact that you transitioning to the euro will be used to pump your prices up anywhere between 100% and 300% and then Plenko Plenkov or whatever your PM is called will say "Anyway the wages have gone up 15%... Prices? What prices? Thank you goodbye"
>>524762003Okay? Our economy is always mismanaged. We don't even have a 2026 budget.
>>524761947Exactly, same with us. And our Central bank made minimal deviations from ECB. Your life won't change due to this really, don't listen to their fear mongering too much. I'm doing masters in finance do I at least have some grasp about the situation.
>>524762078>pump your prices up anywhere between 100% and 300% and then Plenko Plenkov or whatever your PM is called will say "Anyway the wages have gone up 15%... Prices? What prices? Thank you goodbye"Russian shill detected or something.
>>524752217lol
>>524762262>I'm doing masters in financeYou've already mastered Croatian finance, you should go straight to the phd>"I live worse than 5 years ago and prices are significantly higher">"Uhm ackchyually sweaty you don't, stop lying nothing changed there is no inflation, the prices are the same as in 2019, if you look at a 5 euro price in the mirror it becomes a 2 euro price therefore it is still 2 euros just like it used to be ok?"
>>524752593>companies profit from investmentswhat part of this are we supposed to be outraged by and why
the people who are saying nothing will happen or change are retards here's a playlist that explains things in detail https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9S-yPRMNppqndj06b6X54W6gz7DIywLdit's in bulgarian you can also use captions to translate
It's astonishing to me how countries like Croatia and Lithuania have higher groceries prices than Germany despite having massively lower wages and costs than Germany. Like where is all the extra money people pay for shit going?
>>524752248Imagine being a Amerimutt
>>524762673last time I checked the USA innovated while EUROtrash doesn't
>>524762652>It's astonishing to me how countries like Croatia and Lithuania have higher groceries prices than Germany despite having massively lower wages and costs than Germany.This person is a pedophile and supports Russia.
>>524762262Reminds me of EU semi-officially stating that it's not in decline, it's just a dramatic change of lifestyle and we have circular economy as response which is another way of telling that stuff will get scarce.
>>524762652>Like where is all the extra money people pay for shit going?Wealth extraction into their western economies. It's an organized cartel with the backing of their governments.
>>524761128>interest rates will be reduced a bitHow so? Deposit interest in leva was (almost) nonexistent compared to euro.>>524761128>despite them having weaker currenciesBosnia has the same currency as leva but they call it different name. Pegged to the german mark.
>>524762802Also anti-semitic.Tho ruskies meme is real these days. If you dare to question anything you're automagically labeled as russian bot/shill/asset.
>>524762262>doing masters in financei don't care about your meme fake educationkeynesian school is pseudo science, just like marxism
>>524762503>I'm doing worse, it must mean most other are doing worse!My family as well as almost everyone I know is doing better than in 2019. What's your point?>>524762652A lot of people have their own opinion why it's like it is. There's really only one thing people in the business can agree on, and that's not the cause of inflation. I personally think it's partially because of demand growing more than supply, supplier of goods have increased their prices to stores a lot, wages suddenly grew a lot without much to back it up, high government spending... Geopolitical situation, small open economy which make it more exposed to instabilities. You name it and you'd probably be right.
>>524762652>Like where is all the extra money people pay for shit going?Building infrastructure and churches in Bosnia, and of course lining the politicians' and mafiosos' pocketsThey get a free pass to do whatever crime they want as long as they make sure that every EU agenda is implemented in full without question
>>524761128are you a gasterbajter vacationing at home because even as one of those you can just go to a store and look at the prices and compare them to your visits before the euro, and also compare them to munich
>>524762777Amerimutts innovated in funding Israel's ass
>>524763011>My family as well as almost everyone I know is doing better than in 2019.How long have you been a HDZ member?
>>524762777>USA innovatedwhat? how to destroy their country?
>>524763011>I personally think it's partiallyTwo things:- printing of money that you didn't earn because of ukraine, armament and having to pay burgers for their expensive energy because of russian (auto)sanctions- coagulation of capital, corporate greed, ever more increasing influence of hedge funds in fiscal policy making
>>524762854By interest i mean loan interests and new bonds.>>524762979There are plenty of economic theories, absolutely none of the is objectively right. It's a social science that doesn't have a right answer in all cases, we're just trying to understand the causes and effects of everything that's happening on the market, geoeconomics and politics as well as the affects of and on fiscal and monetary policy. It's ever changing.
>>524763195where are the european social medias and platforms(4chan,youtube,twitter,facebook etc)Or the AI innovation?Or the european tech firms to displace microsoft and apple?need more my world war starting friend?
>>524763082No, me and my close family have lived in and live in Croatia and without any remittances before you ask. >>524763132Zero days.
>>524763253>There are plenty of economic theories, absolutely none of the is objectively right. It's a social science that doesn't have a right answer in all cases, we're just trying to understand the causes and effects of everything that's happening on the market, geoeconomics and politics as well as the affects of and on fiscal and monetary policy. It's ever changing.It's a miracle how you've been wrong for decades because you're not part of the decision making of the economy (controlled by a handful of jews).
>>524763535It is what it is. At the end of the day, we are humans and we make mistakes unknowingly or even on purpose all the time while chasing money/economic value. From "normal people", investors, economics, management, government etc. See AI bullshit for example. Another bubble waiting to pop because that's where the "money", growth and investment is. For now.
>>524762308>Russian shill detected or something.Nah, it is pretty much what has happened to all new members
>>524763883And who gets punished for these "tiny" mistakes )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>524763910He's making a joke because everything in the EU is blamed on Russian shillsIn Croatia, sometimes Serbian shills tooThey do exist but it's mostly a silencing tactic>>5247638832 more weeks until bitcoin collapses too, I assume?>>524763937>)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))Funny how you joke about me being Russian and then out yourself like this lmao
>>524763937You know very well. I mean after all, almost all influecial Lobbyist's and institutional (big) investors are all Jewish. /Pol/ is 100% in the right here. It's fucking crazy.
>>524763402German(ic) people have contributed a bit to modern AI developments. Like the LSTM which is a precursor to the transformer and was invented by Germans. The variational architecture was invented by two dutch researchers. The U-Net which is an important component in stable diffusion was also introduced by a German. In fact the stable diffusion components (segmenting and sampling) are both invented on this continent, it's only the noise approach that was pieced together by the Americans. And Switzerland probably has a whole lot of minor contributions like that.However all of that was simply plucked out and implanted into America because the EU is a weak puppet creation that doesn't have the means of defending its own interests. It doesn't even have the will to do that. Stuff like Deepseek and who knows what else could've been created here and it could've been done much more efficiently. They know that they're being plundered and that there's a second paperclip going on. They just don't care. They don't want to antagonize America. They have zero will to power.
>>524764051>2 more weeks until bitcoin collapses too, I assume?Sure thing. Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Not the euro zone our our pension funds.Not the economy designed to crash (((every now and then))). Bitcoin is fraud. Trust CBDC and digital euro!
>>524763402>where are the european social medias and platforms(4chan,youtube,twitter,facebook etc)Vkontakte and Telegram. Russia is still part of Europe and the biggest European city is in Russia.>>524763402>Or the AI innovation?Mistral is not bad.>>524763402>Or the european tech firms to displace microsoft and apple?Impossible with this USSR level of bureaucracy suffocating any innovation and business initiave.
>>524763404My salary increased more than 100% from 2019, understandably since I changed jobsBut I feel I had more money back thenEverything is way more expensive now
>>524764215I knew that andmy point still stands friend>>524764395Russia doesn't count friend and never heard mistral probably trash since I haven't heard of it
>>524764441From my experience, average and median (as well as my family's) salary has increased well more than inflation in all but 2 (admittedly big) cases. New cars (for most models) and housing. But there are multiple big reasons why that is. One of the biggest if not the biggest cause is the fact that people use properties as a main personal investment source. And you don't want your investment to not at the very least follow the inflation, right? It's the case of financial investment 101, and of "Jewish" behavior too.
>>524764599Probably you aren't deep into deep learning. As for Russia, they always had great mathematicians and algorithmic programmers. Keep ignoring that if you wish.
>>524764771No friend I'm not ignoring it it's that russia is not in the EU that was my point regarding my comment.There's a reason the EU is also called the EUSSR
>>524764853>There's a reason the EU is also called the EUSSRYes and we both know why. My point was that Telegram is huge(although it's a honeypot).But if you draw the line between EU/not EU that is fine for me. BTW Switzerland (ETH Zurich) is also pretty big in AI research. Not as big as INSAIT (kek) but still a significant player.
>>524752217> Laughs in HungarianDon't worry, man. You'll be absorbed into the greater Magyar empire when Atilla's secret bloodline reveals itself. It is written, and so it shall be. Of course you will all have to be exterminated being gypsy rabble, but at least you'll die for a good cause.
>>524764771>keeps bringing up RussiaYou're a shill paid by Putin, the deathsquad has been dispatched to remove you from EU territoryAlso, why are you conveniently ignoring the fact that Cern keeps shifting the world through dimensions? Is that not a marvel of technology in the center of Europe?
>>524752593>People thinking that EU is some kind of neoliberal charity...That's cause they don't personally benefit from the EU... so they conclude their leaders give money away to the east out of charity kek.
>>524764750If you had money/assets before corona and euro then no wonder you got more I personally did not, and do not come from money, and its a fucking struggle to aquire my own real estate, but some close family members are doing way way betterHigher education and being good in your job payed off from what I have seenI literally can't afford to be average
>>524765224Bro, nobody knows where that money ends up. It sure as fuck wasn't utilized to make our lives better or easier. The only thing I can think of is billions of Euros that were spent on military equipment here, ie prepping the meatgrinder.Allegedly EU citizens also got some stimulus checks during the lockdowns when the Corona was happening, but we only found that out from people who live in Germany, Austria, Slovenia and some other places
>>524764956https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9S-yPRMNppqndj06b6X54W6gz7DIywLd
>>524765185>CernIt's not AI per se. Or social network. Or FAANG type of company such as... well, Yandex. Or related to other Bulgaranon's topic.And joke is on you. I'm useful idiot, trolling for free.
>>524765520ХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХAХA КEФИШ ME!
>>524765504Yes, yes, I already saw him. I used to listen to a more skeptical and blackpilled euroskeptic one or two years ago. He had the same points more or less. So anyways Armenians are smart and insightful people. It's interesting to compare this Max Tavex guy to Levon the banker and what he says about the euro.
>>524765639it's also more interesting to compare him with krum atanasov(literal scumbag)Max isn't exactly a euroskeptic he is pro EU he's just anti-eurozone in some of his videos he admits to liking the idea of the EU but hates it's centralized currency and bureaucracy.Personally I hate both and think the EU is a communist union
>>524752842now your rents, housing, groceries, and consumer goods will converge in cost with germany and france. were the prices at that level before?
>>524765801>EU is a communist unionBingo! But so is USSA.By euroskeptic I meant euro (currency) skeptic but was too lazy to type and now i need to do another captcha so that we can have smarter robots with better inference because of my manual annotation and Bayesian probability.
>>524765858Yes and apartments in Sofia already cost more than apartments in Spain or Greece. Our quality is of course inferior.
>>524765946USA is heading towads communism but I think as long as they have their second amendment they'll never become communist. I aslo think that if America loses the second amendment it's game over for the world. Mainly because the USA is the only country on this planet that allows it's citizens to have guns.Hence why I think there is hope for the world as long as that amendment exists
>>524759880 I like the middle of croatia, its chill there, great air, great food
>>524757327>you and pooplaks are the reason the eu is going to collapseoh no! dont threaten us with that just going to fund the united states of nato in its place problem ?
>>524766055im talking about the entire country not your touristic major city areas
>>524766288Sofia isn't a tourist city.and most of bulgaria is concentrated in sofia.And I'm not from Sofia and can confirm it's true for other cities as well
>>524765432>aquire my own real estateHalf your country is abondoned houses with 3 walls, no plaster and bulletholes.Cant you recyle them? There just made out of a couple bricks anyway
>>524766482That's not how stuff works here. We had an earthquake in 2020 and people from the hardest hit region still live in shipping containers lmao. Keep in mind that we are the "successful" """""""""""country"""""""""""" around here, imagine how shitty it is in Bosnia
>>524766288Kek Sofia is a terrible place for tourism. If you want tourism, it's the last place I recommend for more than a day. Go to Plovdiv instead.It's just the biggest and most developed city hence most expensive to live in.Real estate prices are growing everywhere throughout the country because of inflation rendering money useless. And relative to other parts of EU prices here are growing faster.
>>524764051>Funny how you joke about me being Russian and then out yourself like this lmaoI don't joke about anyone being really Russian, but I won't elaborate because an intelligent person doesn't need elaboration. I don't even have a good opinion of Russia as a state, and I use )))) because I played a lot of games with Russians and I use it in negative context lmao.
>>524764051>BTCYea that might actually happen
>>524760388I mean russians helped you in the past. I dont think you worship russia but you are not anti russia as other countries and thus there is no incentive for you to get EU NATO etc.Some other anon told me you guys have special laws. You are not allowed to leave EU or NATO because if you were it would pass on referendum.
>>524751999-ACK
>>524760829Its deffinetly above 4%.Inflation numbers are always lies.
>>524768160>in an economic union with 26 other countries>use the same currency as almost all of those countries including Germany, Austria, Belgium and Luxembourg>the exact same currency devalues several times as fast here as it does 300 km from here (I can't even say "across the border" anymore)There is no explanation for this that doesn't include mental gymnastics operating entirely within an arbitrary framework, comparable to stuff like the Talmud btw
>>524768475It makes perfect sense, when you force a single currency on different countries, while having an unified monetary policy(forced by ECB) and also having different fiscal policies. All it means is that any and all currency manipulation is done in a way to favor Germany and France, everyone else can get fucked
>>524768977Croatia has a bit of a problem where in general it benefits from expansionist monetary policy because it (in theory) drives up demand, and since many businesses (tourism and sales) and especially government budget depends on consumption, more demand is good. But since that also increases inflation, we have a problem with higher prices, without much effort to change our economic structure (which is not easy nor quick). It's a structural problem, we lucky for now that salaries are increasing and keeping up with general inflation (for most people) as well as good GDP growth. But is a big problem nonetheless.
>>524769535Here's the simplified version:>tourists just keep coming>"Hmmmm I bet if I increased the prices they'd still come here but I would make more money">increase prices until 1 scoop of ice cream is 15 euros>tourists stop coming because it's too expensive>"oh no">all prices in the entire country blow up to make up for the deficitCroatian intellectuals figured out that you can save space by putting all your eggs in one basket and after a couple of decades of funneling literally EVERYTHING into the one single branch that is tourism, the country finally tripped and dropped the basket onto concrete (deservedly, if I may say so, despite the fact that I am affected by it too)
>>524769873By the way, have you noticed that this summer there were literally no reports on the tourist season when it used to be the only fucking thing you saw in the media until recently? Yeah, I wonder why
>>524769535>to change our economic structure (which is not easy nor quick). It's a structural problemBut it was quick and easy when they looted all public and state assets once jewgoslavia split apart. I doubt the EU would allow its member states to fundamentally and independently change their economic system, so you fags are in it for the whole ride. I mean so are we, but at least we get to jump out just before the crash
i remember when everyone dickhead on the internet was raging about how covid gibs would cause insane inflation and every “expert” and “central banker head” and “masters of finance student” told us that inflation would be “transitory” and “short lasting” and now everything is expensive, fucked up, ruined and way more unequalnext time someone tries to tell you they know better than you with regards to economics just kill them on the spot straight up
>>524770283At least you got the fucking gibs instead of getting nothing and drowning in inflation anyway I guess
>>524770391they gave some people 2000 a month for a few months and then gave a bunch of business tons of loans and now chicken is $21/kg here and every faggot in a suit went on tv in the meantime and said that covid gibs would not cause pervasive systemic inflation the “economy” is just one big jewish anglo mafia that does whatever its elite tell it to do there is no organic decentralized perfectly competitive market for anything it’s all lies and BS, anyone with a fundamental understanding of value knows how the economy works everything else is just window dressing for fags
>>524770241Funny that in Croatia (don't know about Serbia), for a brief period we were more socialist than Yugoslavia, when the state nationalized pretty much all of industry/businesses. And later sold them at very questionable terms.>>524770283Yea, and how many businesses and plebs complained about the gibs? In Croatia almost everyone was for it. Short term gain always beats perceived long term gain. Economics are very closely related to politics/constituency (fiscal as well as monetary policy, though later in theory shouldn't be influenced by the aforementioned).
>>524770985tons of people complained and said it would cause sky high inflation but they were told to shut up by make up wearing faggots in suits on televisionpeople who play video games online with in game currency even saw it coming lol, i hate normies so much
>>524771490>people who play video games online with in game currency even saw it coming lol, i hate normies so muchGames are very educational. That's why (((they))) stopped making good games
>>524758543What does Serbia have to do with gypsies in Bulgaria? I could understand if we do it just to fuck with you but I don't see a reason beyond that espescially with the current state of Serbia.
>>524752131you voted for thisno refunds
>>524762777>innovatedwhat exactly? how to reduce the white population and replace it with browns?
>>524771490This reminds me of "blindfolded monkey theory". Where a blindfolded monkey (in this case folks playing video games) selecting stocks by throwing darts at a newspaper's financial pages could perform as well as a financial analyst, or even better.
>>524771717бa. Eдвa ли щe мoжeш дa дaдeш пpeпopъки aмa cи cтpyвa дa питaм.Кoя или кoи пapтии би пpeпopъчaл cpeщy тoя yжac. Зaщoтo чecтнo нитo eднa oт тeзи кoитo ca били в пapлaмeнтa cпoдeлят интepecитe ми и eдвa ли имa aмa пoнe дa питaм дpyгитe бyдни бългapи дaли тe имaт oтгoвop.
>>524772107Unironically NOBODY voted for it because there was no referendum in the first place
>>524772068nvm i readi it again
>>524772183maybe if you weren't a retard and actually read you would have seen it and understood,Be offended you have my permission.
>>524772309What do you mean nobody voted for it? Why did HDZ win the parliamentary election (not that SDP or Možemo or many other parties were really against it either) together with their satelite parties and MP's? And by joining the EU, you commit yourself to join the Eurozone, unless you're Denmark. Though some stall the process as much as they can.
>>524765480Here the stimulus checks (taken as loans from foreign banks and paid by the taxpayers of course) were given to companies so they could recover from lockdowns and economic slowdowns...but the employers simply spend that money on luxury yachts and sports cars instead. Hell, there were pizza parlors located 300km from the sea spending their stimulus checks on new speedboats all in the name of "business diversification".
>>524772287Bcички ca мacкapи. He глacyвaй никoгa. He зacлyжaвaт cyбcидиятa ти
>>524772666Setting aside the fact that you're a smug shit who thinks he is extremely smart (feel free to post about your tested IQ of 140, I know you want to), you are reducing the entire thing to deterministic bullshit by applying logic fed to this board by kike shills.So:The Eurozone thing would happen no matter if the ruling party was HDZ, SDP, HNS, HSP, or any other, so by default everyone who voted did vote for it.Anybody who didn't vote, by implication, didn't cast his vote for someone who would stop the euro from being implemented, so by not voting, he voted for it.The conclusion is that 100% people wanted exactly this to happen. Same applies to one billion Pajeets they imported, and all other fuckery they do.You can't even begin to consider that we are trapped within a framework that doesn't let us have a say in anything that happens no matter what we do, as long as we play by the rules that are set. No, not even a violent revolution because troops would be deployed to "restore order" and our insignificant shithole would get steamrolled by an army more numerous than our entire population.You are deflecting the responsibility of the ruling party onto all people in the country (even the ones fiercely opposed to it) instead of them, the ones that actually did it. I'm really starting to thing you're a shill with an agenda, but even if not, you are scum trying to pilpul people into remaining calm while everything is crashing off a cliff. When someone smashes your face in IRL, be it because you're winding him up or just because he's a violent ape, please remember that it's actually exactly what you wanted to happen, because otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
>>524773545нe oчaквaх paзличeн oтгoвop.И нe ce cъpдя пpocтo cъм paзoчapoвaн чe нямa никoй кoйтo дa cтaвa. Eми дaнo в тoзи кopaб имa нeщo пoзитивнo(Cъмнявaм ce).Eдинcтвeнoтo кoeтo щe кaжa e УCПEШHA HOBA ГOДИHA!
>>524774173I think I have some solid knowledge about the topic, not that I'm smart or super smart about it. I've stated that I could be wrong or partially right, which I probably am. That's the way it is.Many people have their own personal problems and they can't be brothered by thinking about future or wide consequences and ramification of what governments or businesses do. Most genuinely don't care either. And obviously we don't have a direct saying in most things, that's the reality. For more than a decade now businesses and various interest groups pushed for large immigration, government finally caved in in 2019. I'm not happy with the situation either, but I'm aware it's out of my reach and influence, and I accepted the fact. I'm just trying to get by the best I can with the opportunities and conditions in place, while at the same time trying to understand why the things are the way they are. Which is why I'm interested in economics and study the field too.
>>524774914>he studies a meme field that gets absolutely annihilated with the single sentence "Rothschild and Rockefeller are sitting at a table, spinning a dreidel for billions of dollars and entire countries instead of coins"Lol, lmao evenNevertheless, you're right. I just assumed you were a cunt because you used one of the shills' favourite lines. Yes, in fact, the argument that nobody voted for it would make more sense, as it wasn't really made into a public discussion at a time when we could even take it into consideration while voting.I say we keep doing our thing, waiting patiently for the system to implode. Nothing else we can do, that isn't a pipe dream and an empty fantasy. Remove one head from the Hydra, another grows back. Remove all of them... And there are still 100000 hydras to be thrown at you.
>>524775858Yup. And it will probably implode, especially if you read between the lines. >>524763011I'm referring to the one thing people in business and economics can universally agree on based on what I've heard from them; professors, people in banking, Central bank, supervision, World Bank, OECD, UN and latest one with Croatian IMF mission a month ago (not boasting, university gives you these opportunities, if you wanna take them that is, wast majority don't). And is regarding pensions and pension system. Absolutely everyone said we should start saving as much as we can and as early as we can for the future and that we'll work longer than current generation because the system is unsustainable. If that doesn't tell you about impeding doom, nothing can and will. So brace yourself. Not that I think it's something of a new information for you, I'm just affirming it.
Congratulations!
>>524777829Greetings to Kazakhstan!I hate ursula so much it's unreal!
>>524778183Fucking menopausal matriarchy. We're doomed.
>>524752131terrible moment to adopt the euro
Did someone say epidemic?Corona is backGo check the youtube comments on superflu subclade K news videos, theres hundreds of them freshA lot of people are talking about the great corona2026 corona's vengeance??
