This befuddles Europeans.
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>>524827439You'd think they've learned since Dresden by now.
>>524827492Grenfell Tower didn't even have a FIRE ALARM. In Europe, an apartment building can burst into flames and no alarm will sound to wake you.
>>524827570predictable aftermathIn response to this incident, the UK changed their sprinkler and fire alarm regul--- AHAHAHA NO JUST KIDDING. SPRINKLERS AND FIRE ALARMS STILL AREN'T REQUIRED IN LONDON.
>>524827439Break on off and enjoy the foul smelling stagnate shit water. Its fun.
>>524827439Latin
>>524827439>someone lights a cig>house is immediately floodedwhy in the fuck would I want THAT
>>524827616if it wasn't for retards putting flammable insulation everywhere nothing would have happened
>>524827439Weirdly enough our nightclubs are forced by law to have sprinkler systems installed. As backwards as this island is, there are a few gems in place.
New residential construction in California requires fire sprinklers. Of course there is no new construction happening in fucking California and to install a fire sprinkler system in an existing home requires pulling permits and having the install done by a licensed fire sprinkler contractor. In short it’s super expensive even though one can easily cobble together a system using sharkbite pex, which is fire rated, the appropriate fittings, and pendant sprinklers all tied into the water main if you have enough pressure coming in. I could do my house for around $300 bucks, but it would be non permitted. (Which is exactly what I’m going to do and if I ever move I’ll disconnect everything and take it with me.
>>524828448They don't work that way, good designed systems will detect more that one stuff, like smoke + temperature or infra reds.
>>524828448>European genuinely befuddled by how sprinklers work.Those glass bulbs won't pop for a cigarette or even your grannies birthday cake covered in a hundred candles. Red fluid sprinkler bulbs pop when they reach 68 C. If its 68 C at your ceiling, you have a fire.
>>524827570Yet Grenfell survived umpteen fires decade after decade until the town planning approval office said 1) You need cladding for environmental reasons and 2) You need to bend the cladding into a particular shape to hide the screws on it which will eventually go rusty. (2) Turned safe cladding which passed fireproof regulations into a chimney that burned 5x faster and released 10x as much poison gas as fitting the cladding in the standard (not bent) way.T.Actually read the full report.
>>524828645The red thing is a glass bulb filled with a fluid that expands when hot. When it gets too hot, it bursts and releases water from that sprinkler, and that sprinkler only. Movies show it setting off every sprinkler in the building, but that's not how they work.
>>524828716>having single points of failure is okay because... IT JUST IS OKAY???You people are deranged.
And I’m installing arc fault protection breakers and redoing walls with type x fire rated drywall. Why? Because I live in a tinder box for one, an older mobile in what is considered a high fire risk area. Because of that, our insurance was cancelled, even though I am in a spot that is literally a traditional desert zone- there hasn’t been a major fire in the spot where I live since they’ve kept records, but a few miles over is brushland and we’re all in the same zip code, so we were all cancelled. Well, fuck the insurance scam, and fuck the county and their permits… I’m investing in real insurance - sprinklers, type x drywall, gfci breakers, and eventually rockwool insulation.
What, they don’t have fire sprinklers in Europe?
>>524828716Could have been worse. Could have wrapped the entire building in bamboo scaffolding.
>>524828959They're very rare. Apparently even newly constructed apartment buildings don't have them.
>>524828959i have seen sprinkler systems in factories only
>>524827439Are you fucking retarded?>flagOh, sorry, didn't mean to mock your mental illness.
>>524828959No, he's a fucking ignorant idiot.
>>524828585>sharkbite pexwhat the fuck is that?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT2ftQ_ab-woh so it's a load of shitcan't even buy that here, pex is either press or screw tighten shitRETARDS here will use PEX for heating and then run dogshit PPR for water>>524828698yes I am very befuddledthat's brilliant, I thought they'd be triggered electrically by a fucking smoke detector
>>524829228>>524829275Maybe Slovakia is a cut above the rest of Europe. However these aren't required in new multi-unit residential construction in most of Europe, which is insane considering how cheap and effective they are.>b-but we design our buildings to not catch fireThat's no excuse. You're supposed to have multiple layers of safety, so that if something gets fucked up in one layer you still have the others to keep you alive. This is why bongs are particularly retarded with blaming the entire fire on the flammable panels, >>524828716 while forgetting to ask why that single failure wasn't backed up by other safety considerations like actually having a fire alarm in the building.
They should be teaching pic related in schools.
Sprinklers aren't terribly effective either. They tend to slow down the spread of a fire, but they don't trigger early enough to prevent one from escalating, and usually don't extinguish it, as such it's entirely pointless to have them in small residential buildings as long as you have fire alarms and manual extinguishers, which are drastically more effective, economical, and less damaging.These systems only make sense once a building becomes large and spread out enough you need a central fire alarm system and the building takes more than 2 minutes to evacuate.
>>524828959They are present. But not everywhere.For new factories, warehouses, shoping malls and so on, they get installed. As then insurance is cheaper. Sometimes in hotels too, if they are big enough.For sprinkler sytems, there need separate pumping station with sensors. When they sense pressure drop (sprinkler glass capsule exploded), then pumps start to work. Increasing water pressure in piping. Usually to 10 bar.If previously in piping was say 2.5 bar, then at moment of activation, more water gets pumped in, and sprayed all over the place.For such systems be economically viable, there is kinda "area" at which it is worth to install. For small restaurants it might not make economical sense.
>>524828959everything you see is basically painted tents, we just fooled you and make fun of you for having cardboard houses as projection
>>524827616sprinkler is bullshit, you just smoke bong and then whole apartment building is flooded because the retard sprinkler detected smoke which was not danger
>>524830438>but they don't trigger early enough to prevent one from escalatingThere is glass capsule, which contains liquid which boils at like 65 degree Celsius. And that is all there is. It reacts on local temperature. If for some reason it exceeds (say, next to oven from Pizzeria), liquid in capsule will start to boil, capsule will burst and water will start pouring in that area. That mechanism is that simple. In most cases, works surprisingly well.
>>524827439Our houses are not glorified sheds made of sticks and cardboard.
>>524830438Sprinklers are incredibly effective at slowing and containing fires, and thereby, at saving lives. If they succeed in putting the fire out, all the better, but that isn't necessary for sprinklers to be effective at saving lives.>as long as you have fire alarmspic rel had no sprinklers, no fire alarms, only a single staircase, and yet bongs think the ONLY problem was the flammable cladding.>>524830616>you just smoke bong and then whole apartment building is floodedThat's not how sprinkler work, retard. Smoke doesn't set them off, heat does. The amount of heat needed to set one off greatly exceeds the amount of heat you can produce with all the bongs and candles your hippy ass can muster. Furthermore, one sprinkler going off doesn't set off the rest in the building, thats a HOLLWOOD myth. Sprinkers are INDIVIDUALLY triggered by extreme heat, not collectively triggered.
>>524830616>and then whole apartment building is flooded because the retard sprinkler detected smoke which was not dangerThose are not "sprinklers". Those are "drenchers". Different stuff, and rarely used.
>>524830739Your "apartment buildings" are blast furnaces without so much as even fire alarms.
It's worth noting most major fires have exactly one cause:>ridiculously combustible shit all throughout or around the buildingSo maybe don't do that? You can't count the cases a house burned down due to a kitchen fire during the last 5 decades on one hand, but of course there's other factors:>electrical systemDon't fuck this up.Worth noting most people in a building fire tend to die from smoke inhalation, so by that logic there should also be gas masks everywhere, yet for some reason nobody has these. That will easily buy people a few more minutes to escape in the worst of situations, although no more than that unless it's bottled oxygen/compressed air, which is a little pricey but definitely worth it if you like the idea of not dying in a fire.And there's the fire exists of course right; a huge proportion of mass casualty fires involve an absence of emergency exists or locked ones. Doors aren't that expensive.
>>524827439Apparently these thing are not enough to help burgers. Only the most retarded of european countries have death rates as high as 'mmurica
>>524831042my house is made of woodim not gonna rebuild iti just have some alarms and extiguishers and a few different exitsits pretty simple stuff
>>524830701That's why there's different temperature ratings - obviously you don't want it to trigger too easily either, while the alarm on the other hand should be as sensitive as possible - not a big deal to have a false alarm.Guess a factor should also be the way a building is occupied and how big the potential fire sources are. With a dwelling where no fire should occur when nobody's present a manual extinguisher should be fine, while in commercial spaces that god knows what might happen and explode a sprinkler system certainly is sensible.
>>524831042>exactly one cause:That kind of thinking is EXACTLY the wrong way to manage risk.Familiarize yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model>>524831113The vast majority of these are single occupancy house fires and car fires; nothing will help if a hoarding nigger decides to deep fry a frozen turkey in their living room. On the other hand, deadly fires in commercial spaces or apartment buildings are EXTREMELY rare in America.
>>524831113wtf are ruskies even doing
>>524831367Probably being poor as fuck and deliberately lighting fires indoors to stay warm.
>>524831426>Pissing their pants to stay warmSounds russian enough. I believe it
>>524828959we have, the germans and south europeons in general are just subhuman. even african-americans are more civilized
>>524831579>even african-americans are more civilizedLet's not get ahead of ourselves, I'm sure Germans can probably figure out why the ceiling bird chirps.
>>524831266>With a dwelling where no fire should occur when nobody's present a manual extinguisher should be fineHere in local news on TV, in past year we had several cases when jeets somehow managed to get kitchen in fire (in apartments they rented). How they managed to get that, is out of my understanding. Probably would be useful to create special training seminar for jeets and similar, how to properly and safely use gas stove.Few hours ago, several kilometers from where I live, kinda was explosion in one of commie block buildings. Not much info is known, but it looks that it was gas explosion. With non-zero chance that some jeet is involved (relatively close to one of universities, where a lot of jeets study). Will be curious to find out is it true.
>>524827439Europeans honestly think they should be able to shoot fireworks into the ceiling with no consequencesif you installed sprinklers they would just aim at them with bottle rockets to make it rain on everyone
>>524831660>kitchen firenine times out of ten, it's because a dumb nigger (and/or woman) threw water on an oil fire.
>>524831750Note in particular the fire suppression hood which is situated above the burning oil fryer. They're required by law, specifically to deal with this sort of scenario, but dumb niggers don't understand.
>>524831750Water on oil sounds plausible. Suspecting that they might be doing some extra actions which made things more dangerous.After some similar incidends, reputation about jeets spread, and now there is harder for them find apartments for rent. Apparently they themselves think that it is because others perceive them as dirty. While, there is also that "danger to my property" effect too.
>>524831989This actually might be it. That they were moving burning pan to window, and ignited curtain. Now it makes way more sense.
>>524832295It ignited the curtain, but also probably mixed with some water in the sink they moved it too. A comedy of errors.
>>524832348Indeed
>>524827439Yeah, because wood and cardboard houses aren't as flammable as bricks and concrete. Eh at least my city has water and doesn't let half of cali burn when it goes on fire.
>>524831113>commercial spaces or apartment buildings are EXTREMELY rare in AmericaYou think that such things are even remotely common in Europe? I guess you could dig up some statistics on that
>>524827439>Muh sprinklers and fire alarms.
>>524827439what's that?
>>524827439I did fire alarm testing and instal, I also used to be a fire sprinkler fitter. There was a time there where I did extinguisher hydro testing, and high end super sensitive halon and vespa systems. AMAAnd is this about the fire is the Alps? Clubs and whatnot are super dangerous. But in the US where entertainment like pyrotechnics happen, they don't just have the normal sprinkler system that goes off when they get hot enough. There's also a "deluge system" that is literally just a big valve someone can run up to and turn on and shitloads of water will pour into the stage.
>>524831989THEY NEVER PUT THE FUCKING LID ON THE POT
>>524832889The deluge systems seem quite smart, but hopefully people don't hesitate to manually activate those for misplaced fear of property damage.
>>524831750Darwin award
Sprinklers provide a high level of life safety. Statistics demonstrate that there has never been any multiple loss of life in a fully sprinklered building. Property losses are 85% less in residences with fire sprinklers compared to those without sprinklers.
>>524827439Guardian 155 degree chrome pendant with escutcheon
>>524828698even the ones with a fusible element take a long time to pop with a cigarette lighter
>>524834870These are neat.
>>524827570To be fair who the hell would want to spend a few bucks to save a giant box full of shit.
>>524835636It's a fair point, but I don't think the builders would have known it would be all shitskins when the building was put up.
>>524827439I have those at work. I once bust my forehead wide open when I walked into those sharp edges.
>>524831113>Switzerland 0.2Welp, that's going to need an update soon.
>>524835745>shortest scandinavian
>>524835705As Scott Adams would say, they guessed correctly.
>>524828448Typical eurotard
>>524836132kek
>>524827439>having woter come out of the ceiling is normal
>>524827439It’s the thatched roofs. Highly flammable.
>>524836313>>having woter come out of the sky is normal
>>524836313>having fire come out of the ceiling is bussin, fr fr
>>524836495no one in europe installs these weird american ceiling nozzles since they will ruin thousands of euros worth of equipment if they go off and clubs all have insurance against fire
>>524836691What does the fire do to the thousands of euros of equipment?
>>524836797doesn't matter its all paid by the insurance. nut they wont pay if the nozzle goes off due to a false alarm or malfunction. its simple math. one costs money the other pays you money. you'd understand if you had to run a business
>>524836495>zoomers just want to watch the world burnbased desu
>>524836691>he thinks fire sprinkers are to protect propertyWhy are you such degenerate materialists?
>>524828883>And I’m installing arc fault protection breakersIf you haven't had an arc fault problem by now, you are fine. Redoing everything is increasing your risk for an electrical fire. If you are hell bent on it, invest in a good torque screwdriver and wrench.
>>524827439Arson survivor here. Nearly fucking died in 2010 due to a major apartment building fire. Don't be like the niggers and not change your smoke detector and carbon monoxide batteries. You need to do this regularly even if you don't think they need to be changed. Without those going off that morning, I'd be fucking dead along with the rest of my family. This stupid Swiss Miss faggots just stood there filming the entire goddamned time with no situational awareness at all whatsoever. Too busy doing ski slopes of coke in the bathroom and being whores.
>>524829275Show me your sprinkler, Slovakia fren
>>524837140Just woke up and a little fuzzy anon, but how often do you need a torque wrench when working on electrical?
>>524828959No we just pee on the flames until they vanish, works every time.
>>524836906>european lives are worth less than nigger music projection equipment Checks out.
>>524837286>but how often do you need a torque wrench when working on electrical?If that anon is so concerned about electrical fire safety, proper torque on all the electrical fasteners (conductors under screws or lugs) is essential. It means that as the conductor heats and cools with load changes, the screws and lugs won't work their way loose. The latest version of the NEC mandates proper torquing of all electrical connections.
>>524837286Every time you tighten the lugs on a breaker / contactor?
>>524837169I'm glad you're still with us. My own fire experience wasn't nearly so bad as yours, but at 3am an emergency light in the hallway directly outside my apartment decided to have a melty and caught fire. The fire didn't spread, but the firefighters chopped up most of the wall to double check anyway.. It wasn't very fun to open my door and see fire, but at least my alarms went off.
>>524836495If you're so fucking detached from reality that when you see the ceiling is on fire you start filming, dancing, and signing the roof is on fire instead of getting out of there, your dumb rich ass deserves to burn so that you'll never foul the earth with your incompetent seed. I don't know how much of this can be attributed to pampered ignorant rich brats, or just standard zoomie retardation.>"hurr durr nobody taught us how to evacuate a burning building i tried to Google what do!"
>>524837575>Every timeIncluding switches and receptacles. Anything with threads that secures a conductor now requires a torque screwdriver or wrench to verify proper torque.
>>524830616Smoke outside, retard.
>>524831958OH SHYT NIGGA DIS SHYT ON FIRE MUHFUGGA SHYT NIGGA FUCK
>>524837671Drugs and alcohol were doubtlessly involved too, to be fair. But being drunk shouldn't stop somebody from reacting with rational fear to fire.
>>524837710That's actually a really sad webm. He was trying to cook his favorite food, meatballs, but as you can see it went tragically wrong.
>>524828959In Greece you will barely find any sprinklers. We have a fire extinguisher in every corner though.
>>524830438>be "German">trapped in building fire>sprinklers come on>shakes his head in anger, sitting where he isI see you're in the mood to make it clear you're not German.
>>524831750Niggers can't figure out science. Water molecules are polar, and oils are nonpolar. As a result, oils are repelled by water molecules. That's why that shit there happened. They do not mix. But DaQwuaDarius skipped chemistry class and has a 1.93 weighted GPA at George Floyd Technical High School so he ain got time fo dat shyt nigga
>>524832889Yeah Switzerland. They said it was due to fucking sparkling flares from the champagne bottles did it.
>>524837961Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttt.
>>524837811There are several types of extinguishers. To use those, also involves risks.
>>524834192$15/hour minimum wage
>>524837961The bigger problem is burning oil is MUCH hotter than the vaporization temperature of water, and has a large specific heat as well, so when liquid water touches burning oil, the water will instantly vaporize. And steam being what it is, that means it instantly expands, basically the water explodes on contact with the burning oil and that causes the oil to spray everywhere, mixing with the air and making a huge fireball. That's my understanding of the dynamics, anyway.
>>524827439>This befuddles Europeans.I can only speak for Germany, we generally have very high standards when it comes to safety regulation but there's no safety mechanism against retards like these >>524836495
>>524827570>UK>europe
>>524836495>Let me tand here and make a video of the last moments of my life.
>>524838242Water is also heavier. When poured, it tries to sink on bottom, and hot (less dense) oil tries to remain on surface. Pot is also close to oil smoke point (around 300 degree Celsius). Part of water tries to evaporate, and there is oil which tries to remain on top of water. And yes, steam spreads stuff around.
>>524838364Turn off your VPN, Nigel. All Americans know the UK is in Europe.>nooo we're an islandBlow it out your ass.
>>524838242The specific heat of water is high enough that it remains liquid just long enough to sink to the bottom of the oil. THEN it flashes to steam and blows the burning oil all ove the place.
>at house party>somebody in kitchen "cooking">oil in a pan 3" deep>burner on full blast>walk in to kitchen just in time to see a retard drop completely frozen shit in extremely hot oil>whole pan goes up in flames>retard chef starts filling a pitcher up with water at sinkAt that point I had two choices. Either fuck off to another party that wasn't on fire or use the lid of the pan that was sitting right next to the stove. I slapped the lid on and suffocated the burning oil, turned burner off, used a dish towel to move the pan over, and blotted out the fire with a dish towel. Once out some guy did pop in with a fire extinguisher though, but wasn't necessary.>and then everybody clappedNo shit lol, they actually did applaud me.
>>524837642Yeah mine was set with charcoal lighter fluid by my sister's ex. Most of the building went up.
>>524838681>No shit lol, they actually did applaud me.Most believable story on >>>/pol/.
>>524827439I miss the /pol/ safety squad. We got so many illegal diy/antifa venues shut down by fire inspectors.
>>524838681I would have demanded every girl there to blow me for that. Way to go, hero.
>>524827439Whatever you mean? Sprinklers are pretty common in malls etc. While more sensitive objects like museums use inert gas. Why would I be befuddled by technology that's probably more used across Europe than Muttlandia?
>>524839003It was good times.
>>524827439>someone pulls fire alarm>whole building's sprinkler system goes offThat's what American movies have taught me.
>>524828959Why don't you burn to death like we do in Germany?
>>524839266Movies aren't real, sprinklers don't work like that. The only way they go off is when heat bursts that red capsule. And only the one that is heated will go off, not the whole building (another hollywood lie.)
I read somewhere that sprinklers were there but failed
>>524838242Problem with splashing a bit of water on a grease fire is that displacing the oil without cooling it below combustion temp just displaces the fire. With a big enough stream it should work but youd make a hell of a messObvious answer is to grab a fire extinguisher if were past the point of putting a lid or covering with a dripping wet cotton towelPS. I work in sprinkler system design so practical fire suppression is not my specialty. Also the job sucks
>>524839364I liked how Ripley set one off the call for help when Burke locked her and Newt in a room with the facehugger.
>>524839407In video you can see pipes. At ceiling. Those might be for sprinklers (upward position). Or might be for something else.
>>524828698What the fuck is a "68 C"?Use normal measurmendaments amerifag
>>524839364You mean to tell me that The Matrix was in fact not a documentary?
>>524830616>burning to deathAt least there's no water damage
>>524827570you're a fucking retard, Jamal Da'quan Smith
>>524837080>>524837432well yeah
>all this talk about fire>I'm just trying to get some decent coals going in my woodstove It's cold in my garage
>>524839609Very unlikely there were sprinklers, they wouldve visibly activated by the point many videos showFor the combustible load of the building and its contents, a typical commercial water based sprinkler system wouldve suppressed the fire. If the system was installed, it was completely non operational (drained and shut off), which is so unlikely that its most likely the just didnt have one in the first place
>>524839609PS those look like electrical conduit, not any sort of water pipe. Sprinkler systems in commercial spaces must use iron/steel pipe
>>524830438>They tend to slow down the spread of a fire,it sounds like it would have helped the people in that swiss bar
>>524828448kysbcyngmi
>>524827439>SURELY a nightclub skimping on fire safety will adhere to expensive fire safetyT.Amerilard
>>524840663he's so focused on property damage he forgot about human lives.
>>524837808LMAO
>>524840787>expensive fire safetyCommercial buildings in the US aren't even built without sprinklers in the first place. They cost mere dollars per unit and installing them is just plumbing. This isn't "expensive fire safety", this is table stakes for running a business.
>>524840468For me, it looks like 1/2 inch pipes. Might be steel pipes painted.One thing is that there is sprinklers installed. But they could also been turned off for reasons, like some fitting leaking. Delayed fixing to after new year, when there are way less customers.Basically, same as story that with having emergency exits, but those are been closed shut, because of some reason. One thing is having some kind of system. Another is, to actually use it.
>>524840940Night clubs are constantly deliberately blocking off other exits to prevent people from sneaking in. It happens over and over again. This might be one rare case when that didn't happen, but only because there weren't any other exits in the first place..
>>524840663To be clear, a fire sprinkler system would made a fucking mess, but that fire would been easily put out. Especially in Europe where they like conventional sprinkler heads which do direct part of the spray upwards (here we just use standard spray heads, which only spray horizontally and below)>>524840940I mean the smallest you can use is 1" steel (I think yall call it 25mm) or 3/4" copper to feed a single head (no one uses copper due to cost)But its the spacing of the piping I saw in some videos, normally Id expect 8'-12' between sprinkler lines. The piping I saw was running maybe 12" apart, usually something I only see for electrical runs. Do you have any pictures you were thinking are sprinkler lines?
>>524841044More than decade ago, we had incident when roof of shopping center collapsed. Before it, there was fire alarms happening. Maintenance company engineers arrived, found that there is no fire, they turned sirens out. People continued to shop.Thing was, that under the roof, there are also laser sensors. At closer to roof height, they shine that laser beam across the hall, on special reflector. Then it bounces back, and sensor checks how much light arrives. If there is smoke or other obstacles, then alarm gets trigered. In this case, it was triggered, because building started to deform (construction with tractor and earth compactor on the roof, as there wanted to make kinda park/squire). Because of that deformation, beam did not hit that reflector anymore, and signal strenght was disturbed.Alarm was going on. Evacuation was not done. Specialist arrive, but did not understood cause of that alarm. At the end, 54 dead.Even if there is installed some safety system/equipment, there is risk that it will not be used. Proper training helps a lot.
>>524841301>I mean the smallest you can use is 1" steelDifferent countries, different regulations. They have their unique electric plug. Would not surprise, that they would be allowed to use thinner pipes.
>>524838279>there's no safety mechanism against retards like theseIt's becoming a big problem with our laws and regulations, because they assume our citizens are not (absolute) retards, and that the few of them, who do break the laws, because they are too stupid, are few in number.But that is no longer the case.But try to change anything about the status quo IN GERMANY, and you're obviously a Nazi if you don't support the BRANDMAUER!
>>524841301True I was just watching this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=507gj_JWWSsSeems pretty effective and I'm glad I see them in large buildings and apartments here. Idk what Europe's deal is if they don't use them.I bet they do a lot of damage but better to deal with water damage than risk a massive fire
>>524827439It confuses and angers me
>>524841301>>524841301>Do you have any pictures you were thinking are sprinkler lines?>>524836495In video in this post. If you look at the ceiling, there is multiple pipes. If not mistaken, in standard configuration, sprinklers are in 2.5m distance from each other. So they might not have been in a video shot, if they were installed at all. Upward position, to reduce risk that someone will hit it while moving something around. Which would make them even less visible.
>>524827439There was a big club fire in Dublin in '81 so all the clubs are heavily regulated for fire safety. But it will probably happen again soon with all the invaders everywhere.
>>524841956In the USA theres a strong lobby run by the manufacturers, installers, and insurance companies that sets really strict requirements for most building codes adopted by states/municipalities. Overly strict imho but hey it means I have a job>>524842302Thats the one I saw too. If the building had sprinklers, at least 1 wouldve been in the area that was on fire, and wouldve been set off by that point in the video. That by itself convinces me there were no sprinklers (or the system was shut off completely which again is unlikely for an occupied video)
>>524829346I was skeptical of sharkbites when they first started getting used but I will now stand by them. They are amazing. I have seen copper soldering blow way more often.As for heating they are likely using the wrong type of pex. You need HE-pex but it's more expensive so people cheap out.
>>524842917>at least 1 wouldve been in the area that was on fire, and wouldve been set off by that point in the videoThat would be, if someone did not close the valve. For some reason.Sprinklers pops, few drops of water drops. But because disconnected from main source, nothing happens further.Most likely you are right and there was no sprinklers installed. But who knows. Still slim chance that were. Need to wait for more info.
>>524827439No-one posted it yet?
>>524843162Switzerland needs safety squads.
>>524843162>>524843357
>>524843159Thank you for the conversation
>>524844133It was nice conversation indeed.Cheers.
>>524842409My mam talks about the stardust all the time
>>524838364Even Iceland is in Europe, dumb fuck.
>>524827616Why do all that when the obvious english response is to simply ban fire.
>>524840653>"I GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE!">"OH NOES MUH TITTIES!"lol, women
>>524836495back in my days young people liked playing with fire extinguishers.
>>524838364Which continent is UK on muhammed?
>>524845198Mostly no.
>>524827439My house is not flammable nigger.
>>524848181You greasy wops are covered in enough back hair to be considered a fire hazard.
A sparkle isn't the same as an explosive firework yet people talk about it as if it's the same. Guessing they're gonna ban that in Switzerland now? Despite candles being just as harmful if misused. Or outdated tech
>>524836495Is that from that fire in Switzerland?
>>524827439Real EUropeans don't claim the Swiss, I'm offended you even suggest such a thing
>>524828571that's not weird at all, there have been a shitload of deadly nightclub fires>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nightclub_fires
>>524838141Based CO2 extinguisher enjoyer! For domestic usage foam ones are probably the safest.
>>524845372>house catches fire>lose the wife and kids>get fined for not having a fire loicenseThese are dark dark times.
>>524828448insurance will cover it
>>524850429yup
i have 2 fire inspections a year. wtf are europeans doing
>>524836495It do look bussin ngl
