why did the catholics and orthodox christians wipe out the gnostics?
>>525170333gnostics are retarded and if they believed their own shit they'd all kill themselves to escape the 'evil' 'prison' that is 'physical' 'existance'
>>525170333Gnosticism is Kabbalah and both are witchcraft
>>525170333Genocided that hairline.
>>525170333pseudo-science retards more in line with occultism. the Bible warns against them a few times
>>525170333You evidently haven't met any self-described gnostics.
>>525170333Whoa, that's quite the five-head.
>>525170503Gnosticism is the only religion that explains and makes sense of a so called “perfect” God creating such a shitshow of a world for us to exist in.Or take the blue pill and study Hermiticism, or just be an NPC and have your Goyslop Jesus bullshit created by Saul after consulting with Rabbis and getting permission.
>>525170503That is true for all religions
>>525170934you think you understand spirituality and have been manipulated by 20 minutes of instagram reels and your own delusions of grandeur
>>525170503Killing yourself will only bring more pain to you and those around you. You have no choice but to persist but walk as lightly as possible through the world so as not to become contaminated by its evil.
>>525170333Gnostics are retarded, anon. They're like freemasons but even more shabbos goy
>>525170974that is not true at all.
>>525170333They didn't. They're running the world right now. It's Pythagorean mystery cults, i.e. Freemasonry, and Kabbalistic Sabbateans/Frankist jews. If you don't know what either of those things are you don't know what gnosticism is.
>>525170333The better question is why didn't they do that to the jews?
>>525171231you mean the people who don't believe in jewish fairy tales are more goyish? square that circle for me buddy, spell out how exactly they're the goys when you're the one believing in jewish fairy tales
>>525171643Because by rejecting Christ, you're already damned with the jews
>>525170974Yeah but it's significantly more true of all forms of gnosticism.
>>525170333have you talked to a gnostic? they're all smug assholes.
see, look at these coward retards. >>525170934>>525170974>>525171158Kill yourself or stop being 12 years old. Having to deal with Gnostics are literal proof evil is present in this world.
>>525170333I like how she has to put a giantic pic of her face underneath the text, just like the classic meme
>>525170333Gnosticism correctly identified that hylics - or NPCs - existed two thousand years ago, whereas mainstream Christians see all humans as children of God. That is definitely a credit to their authenticity.>>525170576Gnosticism precedes Kabbalah by about a thousand or so years. The latter originated in medieval Spain. Amerimutts education and all that.
>the world is fake and gay>let's be kikes about itGnosticism, ladies and gentlemen.
>>525170333"Gnostics" are all internet LARPer hipsters that don't actually believe it They use it as a costume/ personality and will move onto the next fad when they get bored or it stop being "unique"
>>525170333Gnostic Bogomilists were tolerated by the Orthodox church as a weird ascetic order, Catholics were the ones who didn't stand a single Cathar to live because both sides accused each other of devil worship. But I don't expect a negress or a faggot (OP) to understand that.
>>525171527>PythagoreanStop slandering a mathematics pro with your Babylonian mystery cults. Even those brain fried rasta stoners know that those cunts are akkadian in origin.
>>525170333All forms of religion are copes. God doesn't exist. Everything is physical and material. Evolution is real. Jesus never existed. Science explains the universe better than religion.
>>525170333They just lost. Christianity appeals to low iq individuals that just want to be told that god is good and everything is alright. Most people aren’t intelligent enough to understand the gnostic perspective. Gnosticism involves pursuing knowledge to achieve enlightenment. Most normies would rather remain retarded sheep. Gnosticism is the most internally consistent form of Christianity, but normies dislike it.
>>525172063Must be 18 to post on this board
I hate these crunchy bitches so much.
>>525172113Amerimutts are a primitive and superstitious race. I chalk it up to the mixing of injun, negroid and Irish blood.
>>525170503That's exactly what christians should do. Their religion IS gnostic. I mean come on, think it through. Satan rules this world but god exists above him? And the world needs to be transcended? It's gnosticism mixed with zoroastroism. It's not even an original idea of its own making.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mIQmglsSjc
>>525172091Here you can see my point proven that these people are hipster internet losers that don't actually believe in any of this but use it as a personality because they have nothing interesting going on in their lives
>>525170333IF THEY ONLY WOULD STOP FLIPPING THE KNOWLEDGE THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE ANSWER THE ONLY ISSUE IS THEY WON’T KNOW HOW MUCH IS FLIPPED BUT I KNOW AND NOW I KNOW EVERYTHING...DO YOU NOT SEE THE WAVES? DO YOU NOT HEAR THE SKY?LOOK DOWN AND THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT ABOVE YOU IS THE SOUND AND BELOW YOU IS THE SIGHT IF ONLY YOU KNEW OH IF ONLY YOU KNEW!AND I BUMBED INTO THIS KNOWLEDGE SAYING WHY ME WHY NOT SOMEONE ELSE!I WILL JUST THROW IT ALL AWAY I WISH I COULD THROW IT ALL AWAY I WISH I COULD THROW MY WORLD AWAY I WISH I COULD THROW MYSELF AWAY. I WISH I COULD THROW MY DREAMS AWAY. I WISH I COULD THROW MY EMOTIONS AWAY. I WISH I COULD THROW THE SECRET AWAY FOR I WAS NOT MEANT TO KNOW. FOR WHAT I KNOW IS ADDED PAIN FOR ME IN THIS WORLD AND THE NEXT FOR I SEE AND FEEL SORROW AND I KNOW WHY IT FLOWS. I KNOW WHY THE FLOOD HAPPENED AND I DON’T KNOW WHY YOU CAN’T SEE IT? WHY CAN’T YOU SEE ANY OF THE SIGNS? ARE YOU ALL BLIND? HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT PERSON? YOU KNOW THIS? BUT YOU LIE OPENLY SO WHY ARE YOU BLIND?
>>525170333>why did the catholics and orthodox christians wipe out the gnostics?Gnostic theology holds that reality is an illusion, as such nothing you do here in the material realm matters any more than what you do in a dream. The goal is to wake up from the dream, not obsess over the rules of the dream. They also believe only some people have a divine spark capable of being saved. People not in their cult are "hylics" with no soul--meat robots.This system of belief justifies doing absolutely horrific shit to other people, because they are just hylics anyway, and even if they aren't they'll just go another round on the wheel of reincarnation anyway.They weren't hated for their beliefs... they were hated for their behavior.https://youtu.be/eOQw9P0oFds?si=49IzM-NOGldgcuBp
>>525170503You don't understand gnostiscm if you think killing yourself does anything.It's very buddhist in the sense that you are attempting to cultivate Pleroma in yourself so that you may have a chance to truly know God
>>525170333>orthodox christian church >using roman powerswe wuz romanz n shiet
what is a christ?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds
>>525170333She is right about that. Now whether she truly understands it is another question entirely.
Gnosticism puts control of spirituality in the hands of the self and internal exploration. That's terrible for using religion as a system of control, which is why Christianity was adopted by rulers in the first place. Constantine adopted the religion for the same reason all the big Viking rulers later did - the idea of a single god mirrors the idea of a single king, consecrating their power. Christianity teaches followers to practice subservience to terrestrial rulers while waiting for deliverance in the afterlife, which is fine for people who know this life is the only one you get.
>>525172233>This system of belief justifies doing absolutely horrific shit to other peopleNonsense. That is better applied to the main Demiurge worshipping religions (normie Christianity, Islam, Judaism). Whole point of gnosticism is to not be attached to this shitshow world, to escape the cycle of reincarnation when you die. Oh and that you can find the answers in yourself, you don't need a priest, iman or rabbi to give you the anwsers..
>>525170642>whiteLol
>>525172062>mathematics pro Fucking mutts
>>525170333Dualism is retarded. Stop.
>>525171959>mainstream Christians see all humans as children of God. parable of wheat and tares says otherwise
So gnosticism is just Buddhism with Jesus?
>>525172039Cathars lived on prime farmland in southern France. Landowners in the north wanted it and this was the justification to take it.
>>525172216You made zero arguments to defend your case.. Your opinion will be dismissed.
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>>525173031Sort of, you could look at it somewhat like that, but the Gnostic Jesus is the one that says "find the kingdom of God within you" Jesus, not the "came to die for your sins" Jesus.
>>525173031Buddhists consider the circle of reincarnation, samsara, to be imperfect but not malevolent. Gnostics believe it's something the evil god created in order to have endless fun torturing the divine sparks. In this gnosticism is closer to Zoroastrianism, another dualistic religion.
>>525173250My case is that you're in an insufferable faggot LARPer and you've proven my point by opening your mouth
>>525170333>UHHHNNNN MUH COMBINE OPPOSITES MUH ALCHEMY MUH TRANNY REBIS >actively goes around stitching gnostic chapters into other scriptures and passing them off on the uninitiated Where have I seen these tricks before?
>>525173387Valentinian gnostics believed god was imperfect. The Sethians were the ones that believed that god was imperfect and evil.
>>525172725>Whole point of gnosticism is to not be attached to this shitshow world, to escape the cycle of reincarnation when you die. Oh and that you can find the answers in yourself, you don't need a priest, iman or rabbi to give you the anwsers..Yeah, that's my point. Its a philosophy that embraces "do as though wilt shall be the whole of the law". If raping and murdering someone's child helps you to gain "gnosis", then who cares? Its not like anything in this shitshow world is real anyway. The only rules are the rules you make for yourself.
>>525173254I opened the thread to post this, thanks anon.
>>525170642Based >>525170333That hairline is nasty Dumbass dreaded whore OP, you should kill yourself
>>525170333>be la creatura>post face with tweetBut WHY? Wasn't the goal to convince me to agree with you? Now I have the image of gnostics being unwashed retards.
>>525173536No, you're conflating gnosticism with satanism. Satanism is just the direct affirmation of loving the Demiurge and his creation. Normie Chrsitianty, Islam and judaism all worship Satan but they just don't directly say it. Gnostics may well say "oh that's kinda nice cinema" about this world but it's not the ultimate reality.
>>525173536except Christ told you that shit is gay. It is still a CHRISTIAN Heresy.
>>525173536Gotta love the "just lash yourself more firmly to the cycle of reincarnation to escape the cycle of reincarnation."
>>525170333The did not wipe out the gnostics with the most important of course being the arians. The biggest difference between arians and catholics to start, is catholics made up the 3 godhead. I am an arian.
>>525173536>do what thou wiltIt’s an expression of freedom. Rape is taking away someone’s freedom. Therefore, not allowed.
>>525170333>why did the catholics and orthodox christians wipe out the gnostics?because they were a mystical group that was more European than jewish
>>525173314Well that was Jesus' own message, so not so bad after all.
>>525173464>The Gneasu Gambit
>>525171739lol lmao even. the jews are right about the goyim. you are cattle
>>525173777>(56) Jesus said, "Whoever has become acquainted with the world has found a corpse, and the world is not worthy of the one who has found the corpse."From the Gospel of Thomas
>>525170333The Father comes only to steal, kill and destroy
>>525173777Satanism was just a crude modern rebranding of Gnosticism. Silence reboid.
>>525173988Indeed, Gnostic Jesus is best Jesus.
>>525170503>implying suicide is naturalYoure more retarded than anyone
>>525174106Nonsense. You don't know what you're talking about. Satanists worship the God of this world, Gnostics don't.
>>525173536>Its a philosophy that embraces "do as though wilt shall be the whole of the law"aiwass bros...
>>525173777You say that:>Oh and that you can find the answers in yourself, you don't need a priest, iman or rabbi to give you the anwsers.And then go on to proclaim yourself the grand rabbi who has all the answers without seeing the contradiction.Gnosticism is a step down from Satanism. Satanism acknowledges good and evil and chooses evil. Gnosticism takes evil for good and good for evil.
>>525173536Christians who reject the Old Testament as a satanic text are less likely to murder and rape, I'd wager. Other than that, I don't know where to begin how did you go from a group of ascetics andade them made them out to be some degenerate hedonists.
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>>525174249>He's the bad gnostic goy! I'm the good gnostic!
>>525170333>declares god is nothing more than a demigod prison warden>declares the only to ascend is to evil with the intent of testing the boundaries of reality>shocked when people see it as a satanic subversion of God
>>525174286how exactly are you the one choosing the right side? seems a bit self serving that you happen to believe all the good stuff and everyone else who disagrees is believing the evil stuff
>>525174286You know, seeing how normie minds rage at the very mention of Gnosticism just reinforces my beleif that it has a lot going for it. Oh how you seethe, you nomries.
International Gnostic communitygoldenrosycross.org
>>525170333Catholics and protestants wiped out many christians as well. The problem boils down to papal supremacy.
>>525174441*spell errors noted*
>>525170934You’re literally the meme.
>>525174371If you have to stitch your holy book inside someone else's holy book and pretend it was always there from the very beginning to trick people, you're the bad one.
>>525174395>Happen toPatterns exist and you're judged by your patterns you fucking retard.
>>525174394your god is the good god, it's not possible you have been convinced to believe in absolute garbage by people who rule over your because you're a fucking moron who will believe anything as long as it says that by believing you will be the good guy
>>525174556Why are you against internally consistent religion?
>>525170333same reason why kikeworshippers genocied the white europeans: they didn't worship kikes, which wasn't kosher according to kikeworshipping zogbots
>>525174441>Be ancient faggot>Scribe retarded scroll>Everyone says you're retarded>"Heh, stupid people get so mad at the truth"
>>525174620what patterns you fucking moron, spell it out, how did you come to believe the bullshit you believe and that also happens to be all the good stuff. what kind of moronic logic are you using to convince yourself your god is the only good god and everyone else is retarded but a moron like you managed to figure it out
>>525170333Checked.
>>525173891>Rape is taking away someone’s freedom. Therefore, not allowedSays who? You? Are you the gnostic pope now? As the Talmud teaches you cannot rape a goyim/hylic because they are not human, they are beasts.Its against the rules? Whose rules? What if I trick them into consent by asking "would you help me with something?" and hoping they agree without knowing what they are agreeing to? Tell me rabbi, where can I find this list of rules your religion without rules goes by?
>>525174701Wow, such incisive, such mind, wow. But why does it make you seethe so much? Why?
>>525174704>Be a retarded faggot>Everyone who's ever talked like you is a retarded faggot >Never win a war ever >Someone recognizes this pattern and flags you as part of it Lmao you have a shriveled amygdala.
>>525170333Picture pretty much nails it.It's also why every time a small commune exists successfully, the nearest government crushes it.People existing without paying tribute to their feudal lord is verboten to the elite.
>>525174827>Wow, such incisive, such mind, wow.The fact that this was your first response and you didn't feel embarrassed to post it tells everyone everything they need to know.
>>525174724this retard just said you can rape beasts because they're beasts. logic, what is it and how does it work
>>525174395>how exactly are you the one choosing the right side?Because Christ is King.
>>525174840>Picture pretty much nails itYeah as in the picture of the retarded drug addled whore as the representative of their cult.
>>525170333what the fuck is wrong with her hairline
>>525174902christ is a piece of shit
>>525174724You asking about “do as thou wilt”. I told you. You were just unhappy with the answer. Evil comes from allowing the material world to influence you. Sexual urge is of the material. You are not behaving freely, you are controlled by your material body.
>>525170333Orthodox priests can get married. Catholics are sodomites and shit-suckers, so they get bombed.
>>525170333she hot
>>525174888Nice digis, but you still won't say why Gnosticism makes you normies rage so much. Funny, isn't it?
>>525174286>immediate strawman Exoteric negro IQ
>>525175048nigger plz
>>525174902king of the jews
>>525170503You'd just come back here.
>>525174441>seeing how normie minds rage at the very mention of Gnosticism just reinforces my beleifSo... you embrace a belief system all about rejecting authority and finding everything you need within yourself in order to escape the material realm of illusions... but the basis of your faith is whether you are edgy enough to get a rise out of other people and what they think of you? Huh?
Have any of you bros actually read Gnostic primary sources? It's a bunch of goddamn heebslop typically, with some faint beauty in the diverse trends that merged with elements of Hermeticism and western alchemy. The entire Sufi tradition of Islam is more noble and Platonic and capable than anything in Gnostic texts. Almost anything is but the OG move is for me just reading Plato and grasping at what a retard I actually am and how cursed we are by what ever divinity does exist. Still it's nothing to complain about like some heebslopper.
>>525170503You just get recycled back into the matrix, after a period of a turbulent temporarily disembodied afterlife where the pain/rage/anger/sadness/depression that pushed you to kill yourself remains in your subtle body (psyche), being a psychic/emotional state not entirely destroyed by the death of the body.Gnosticism is more in line with the perennial philosophy and timeless esoteric truths offered by various spiritual paths for spiritual regeneration and transcendence of bondage to the world and “sin” (bad karmas, pain-producing behaviors and mindsets for oneself and others).
Power and money. There were many forms of christianity before the catholics took power under Constantine. When that happened other sects (some called gnostic like Valentinians, Marcionites etc) were deemed heresies and outlawed. Books were burned. The Nag Hamadi texts are examples of the different types of Gnostic and Christian thought at the time.
>>525170333>The state of that hairline
>>525174724Gnostics consider the physical world to be flawed, and as such the desires of flesh, the prison of the soul, to come from Satan. You're talking about satisfying the urges of the body as if any gnostic would ever condone it. You're simply accusing people you don't like of doing horrible things not even without evidence, but going against everything they preached.
Anyone watch picrel? I found the story very Gnostic. The female android represents Sophia. She gives birth to a snake like being that causes all kinds of problems and eats a tree while Ragnar Lothbrok can do nothing else but watchhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/moSqK5PS7U4
>>525175246>but the basis of your faith is whether you are edgy enough to get a rise out of other people and what they think of you? Huh?No. My basis for faith is that Gnosticism is a logically consistent belief system that best describes my own lived experience in this world.
>>525170503The ultimate ‘religion’ is Agnostic Theism. This is the most based, rational, and logical realm of religion. This is what Hitler was. Agnostic theist that’s culturally Christian.
>>525175254>The entire Sufi tradition of Islam is more noble and PlatonicBased recommendation by the way, it’s too bad that some people are too blinded by their hatred and distrust of Islam and anything Islamic, and Arabs and the Middle Eastern world to give that any credence. When, in fact, some of the most extraordinary Sufi mystics were head and shoulders above the close-minded dogmatic Muslims of their societies in intellect, spiritual development, and ethics, and even faced persecution from the more close-minded Muslims of their societies so sometimes had to resort to esotericism.In fact, some of Sufism represents something like an Islamic Gnosticism, or maybe Islamic Theosophy is better wording in response to you considering your dislike of Gnosticism; the outer layer of Islam as a covering for a conception of an eternal universal spiritual truth, their own conception of perennialism.
>>525175254There is some interesting things in some of the Gnostic texts. In the end religion and philosophy is a bunch of mental masturbation. Imagine a bunch of bullshit and make an abstraction. Assume that abstraction is real. Now make an abstraction of the abstraction. Repeat. Fuck Plato and his bullshit.
>>525175412Speaking of Gnostic themes in media, I think there’s a “good” and a “bad” Gnosticism, benevolently-oriented and malevolently-oriented respectively.The fucked-up weird occultists of the West, various so-called “globalists”, heads of various secret societies, occultist Jews etc., I think adhere to something like a Luciferian Gnosticism. They worship Lucifer (symbolically also equated with Prometheus) as a giver of intellect to man, helping us transcend bondage to a false “God” in the Garden of Eden. They imagine themselves superior to the masses, and as clever enlightened scientific technocrats who’ll transcend the limits of ordinary humanity with their transhumanism and AI-worship plan. This is why you see this Luciferian pseudo-Gnostic imagery and symbolism constantly inserted in pop culture and big movies, music videos, etc.Unfortunately, some people who become a little more conscious and aware of these things hence equate all esotericism, or unconventional mysticism, with such Satanism, or Luciferianism, including lumping all of “Gnosticism” under it. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Essentially, I think the “elites” are Lucifer-worshipers; or, according to other researchers, of the Demiurge or Yaldabaoth, consciously and knowingly as opposed (allegedly) to ordinary religious followers and believers.
>>525173536>>525173777Reads like he's just a basic Christian. Christians generally have this reflex that only Christianity provides any reason to have moral concerns at all and that without Christianity people immediately become wild animals who do evil shit just to be evil. They also generally perceive all religions that aren't Christianity as just excuses to not be Christian and therefore not be subject to Christianity's restrictions on behavior, they don't think any belief aside from their own is sincere, and even that they'll judge each other harshly on. So they tend to slur Satanism into the belief systems of anyone they oppose, assigning beliefs to the opposition that the opposition didn't state and which wouldn't gel with the rest of their beliefs anyway.
>>525175636You make fair points, we're just a load of brainy apes trying to make sense of things, I guess. I just know i won't be going down the tunnel of light post mortum. That's my choice as a man.
>>525170503t. clayborn Archonyeah you'd want the Divine Sparks to simply end themselves and not free any other Divine Sparks, wouldn't you
>>525170333What a stupid heresy
>>525176238Very true. Christinaity is such a mixed up belief system, some of it is just rebranded Golden rule stuff, but then they want to have the crazed Jewish God of the old Testament in there, no other gods before me etc. I think the gnostic Jesus is worth paying attention to, but that's not the Jesus that won out in the battle of ideas.
>>525176098I find it interesting that the end goal of these techno elites is very much immortality in this world. I get it, hey we worship the god of this world and we get to live forever. It just seems to me they are kidding themselves in thinking they will ever beat entropy. Personally, I can't wait to leave this life, I'm so tired of this play.
I "love" how Gnosticism became such a popular thing after I woke up one day and dreamed it into existence, further proving that this world is a prison built just for me, because everything I do becomes what everyone else does... and it's usually 15 years later. Consistently 15 years. It's so obvious that I just laugh about it now. The prison warden Archons are working so tirelessly to keep me bound, distracted, afraid, attached... always creating new problems in my life to keep me here. Is that so?? haha, do you fucking retards realize that I am Eternal? Enjoy it while it lasts... I will settle the score with Yaldabaoth and all of you someday. You can count on it. And this time I will bring a sword.- Lucifer
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>>525177590Aye, /our/ Ultimate Bad Boy, the Lightbringer himself. Messanger of the ultimate Truth, sent from the Pleuroma to waken up the World of matter. The man who'll party with the Devil and talk down to the Pope. He's a hell of a boy, it sometimes bothers me that he gets confused with Satan, but hey, I get it, the Archons like to muddy the pool; after all, it's just so much fun torturing these shards of soullight into thinking they're living in the Real World (tm). Would be nice if Sophia would get off her arse and give Yaldaboath a kick in the balls, wake him up from his own delusion.
>>525170333checkedshe's right though
>>525170333>gnostic christianthis is getting weird
Gnosticism is going against Christianity by de-emphasizing physical body, aka just you. Soul in Christianity just means living beingNephesh (נֶפֶשׁ) - This is the word usually translated as “soul”. But nephesh does not mean an immaterial ghost-self. It means:A living beingLifeThroat/breathThe person as a whole“Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living nephesh.”--Genesis 2:7Man does not receive a nephesh.Man becomes a nephesh. Biblical view is:You are an embodied beingBody + breath = living personDeath = undoing of that unityHope = resurrection, not soul survivalYou don’t have a body.You are a body made alive by God.Gnostics are just modern day spiritualists who reject life and say life is evil.
>>525178671There is a gnostic Jesus, it's just super niche.
>>525171231Lmao gnostics despise the god of the jews. They cite his shitty behavior when he defended the jews as proof of him being a false and shit god
>>525170333Is that Lahrina Small?
>>525178722Brought out a sensible chuckle in me, ngl.
>>525178948Gnostics have liberal/enlightenment ideology critique of God. God is shitty because he doesn't fit in their retarded view of morality. The morality of the weak that is, which keeps complaining that there is suffering and inequality in this world.Cry me a river bitch, Jesus fucking Christ.
>>525177590This is just the plot of shin melamine tensei.
>>525178104>>SophiaTHIS IS HOW I KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOUR GOD IS FAKE NO GOD WILL EVER NAMED THEMSELVES SOPHIA...THAT IS A NAME OF A WEAK-WILLED PERSON WHO WILL NEVER GET OUT OF THE VOID!NAY YOU WILL BE IN THE VOID WITH YOUR WEAK FAKE GOD BECAUSE YOU FORGOT THE REAL NAME OF GOD AND YOU USE FAKES AND THAT MAKES ME RAGE AND I WANT TO BRING YOU DOWN FOR YOU ARE IN THE WORLD, SMALL
>>525178844>Gnostics are just modern day spiritualists who reject life and say life is evil.Yeah but that's exactly what orthodox Chrisitanity does..it's basically, "you're born in sin, this life is shit, believe in Jesus then get everlasting life in paradise. Oh and if you're a bad boy you'll go burn in hell for an eternity".
>>525170333St. Iraneus absolutely obliterated their ridiculous religion by simply writing openly about what they believed and the religion mostly died off in a world where orthodoxy was still a persecuted minority faith with no power to actually harm them. They lost the debate.
>>525179249Sophia just means "Wisdom" dude, no need to go all raging fullcaps with it.
>>525179332No actually, Christianity says yes there is both original sin and also ancestral sin, and consequences of those are going to be manifest on you. But it also says to be grateful and enjoy life, even small things, like just eating.It's saying there is a way to succeed, and succeed in life, because Jesus is going to return here, and rule here, and the dead are going to resurrect here. But in order to do so humans need to have humility and faith because only by guidance of God they can achieve said desirable result, otherwise they're fucked. It doesn't say fuck life, abandon all of that shit.
>>525170333Damn that looks like my ex.
>>525179380Ah yes, the old Bishop of Lyon doing a great sell on why Christians should listen to their superiors if they wanted to get saved.
>>525170333Because gnostics are retarded subhuman niggers
>>525173460Per St. Iraneus in the 190s, because they existed pre-canon and rejected apostolic tradition, they essentially made shit up and passed it off as wisdom.Gnosticism really fascinates me because it’s the ancient Roman version of all the wacky new age stuff of the 70s. Lot of similar beliefs. Ridiculous, became weirdly popular with a lot of degens for a bit, never achieved serious staying power due to both being pessimistic and stupid. Reading their texts reminds me of arguing with dudes with swastika tattoos over whether Jesus was a raw vegan or not, even though scripture has him eating bread and fish and asking for meat. They throw around grossly misinterpreted verses to imply secret knowledge hidden for them, it’s a perfect mental trap the Devil created for arrogant people who aren’t wise, but are seeking wisdom, because it claims to have wisdom that the individual is mystically special and has a higher “psychic” soul.
>>525173479Its fascinating how incorrect this cosmology is. Basically they took a bunch of completely different gnostic cosmologies and wrapped it all up into one. Obviously there are tons of problems with it, but its a comic so its not like the author has to reply to them.
>>525170333>christians genocided gnostics and pagans for thousands of years but left jews untouched and gave them control of central banksit's just a coincidence goy jews hate christ
>>525179860You’re telling me a gnostic would be an intellectually lazy deceitful person? Say it ain’t so!
>>525180007Seems to me he's saying the reverse, but maybe he'll answer you.
>>525180007>>525180134Well, I wouldn't call this gnosticism, so no. A lot of people seem to forget that gnosticism was a term for a bunch of different sects and their beliefs oftentimes did not even overlap. Like The whole apple thing is a sethian belief, but the cosmology seems all over the place but not sethian. Also, for the record, the church back in these days was not all that powerful. They couldn't really eliminate any opposing sects until much later just because they didn't have a way of forcing anyone to do anything. They more died off due to lack of support then actively persecuted.
>>525179436REMOVE THE NAME AND JUST CALL IT WISDOM UNTIL THAT HAPPENS I WILL KNOW YOU ARE A LIAR AND A FAKE!WISDOM MEANS WISDOM NOTHING ELSE BUT YOU USE FAKE WORDS BY A FAGGO LOSER SO NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU LIVE IN FILTH!NAY I WILL WATCH YOU SUFFER!
>>525181354Oh how gracious of (you), how so very Chrisitan of (you). You'll watch me suffer, is it? I've been to hell and back, boyo. I'm not sure you could say the same.
>>525181498NAY NOT A CHRISTIAN I LIKE JESUS BECAUSE HE IS NICE BUT NAY I DO NOT WORSHIP THE GOOD OR EVIL I WORSHIP NO ONE I MOVE AND REACT WITH MY VOICE FOR IT IS THE ONLY THING IN THE VOID! I DO NOT HEAR OR SEE YOU IN THE END SO I KNOW THE VOID IS YOUR HOME!
>>525181679Is your caps lock stuck or?
>>525174724Took me a second, but I think I see what the other retards are missing. If the world is a flesh prison that should be escaped, and that you shouldn't get attached to anything in it, while you wouldn't necessarily destroy it, why would you help and cooperate with your fellow man if their success in this false world didn't help the gnostic escape the cycle?
>>525170333>wipe out the gnosticsit is literally unofficial religion of france and british islandscathars and alikeretards no?90% of truthers>>525170934>ancient jew truth from sand landswe wuz tardit came from bulgaria after bulgars got permanently fucked and denied ability to molest people around themfor bulgars, living in such unnatural state meant that devil himself is ruling the world since god denied them ability to molest othersalso it is designed to be very subversive and erode other kingdoms
>>525170503Still not as bad as people who think the scripture is literal. Gnostics are similar to new agers.
>>525179249Hi Yalda, you little shit. Your mother is very embarrassed of you. That must suck! No wonder you're such a little bitch.
er, no ... Paul conspired with powerful jews and the Romans to alter the message to one of walk the talk and take action to an internal relationship
>>525185638SOPHIA IS NOT RELATED TO ME I’M JUST A TRANNY WHO HATES OTHER TRANNIES! SO NAY I DO NOT LIKE TRANNY SOPHIA WHO IS A BLIND TRANNY AND A RETARD! HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR YOURSELF YOU SIT HERE AND WORSHIP A WOMAN! A TRANNY WOMAN!HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF KNOWING THIS? ALSO, WE MUST HAVE AND SUPPORT TTD TOTAL TRANNY DEATH!EVERY DAY EVERY SECOND AND WHEN YOU ARE DONE REMOVING ALL THE TRANNIES IN THE WORLD I WILL GLADLY DIE SO THAT THE TRANNY MENACE IS ERASED!TRUST MY GOD’S PLAN!FIRST FIND ALL TRANNIES AND CREATE THE TRANNYCOST!
>>525172233Digits never lie.
>>525170333>People aligned with their own Divine Awareness are impossible to control or rule over.YeahThey just kill themselves.>Da kingdoh of God wuz inside youseBurn in hell, bitch
>>525170503Maybe you should try the same for your own shitty world.
>>525179852Iraneus was a retarded nigger and his critique of gnosticism comes down to him straight up being too much of a brainlet to understand what they were saying.
>>525182223Yes... you are getting it. How do you behave in a world that isn't "real"? How do you treat other players? How do you treat NPC's that have no player controling tge avatar, no divine spark? How many tears do you shed as Mario kills Koopas and Goombas? What difference does it make when they are just on an infinite respawn/reincarnation timer anyway?How would a person behave if they didn't consider the real world to be "real"?
>>525179208>god likes it when powerful men raoe childrenFuck god.
>>525180007Wouldn’t seeking out a faith that you weren’t born in to by default be considered intellectually active? The most intellectually lazy thing you could do is never question your faith in the first place.
>>525179852>they essentially made shit up and passed it off as wisdom.Because gnostics see the world as an imperfect illusion created by the demiurge, they have no problem with constantly changing shape. They have worn the mask of pagans, Christians, Muslims, Kabbalists, Freemasons, and atheists. They have no problem altering or fabricating beliefs because they view those beliefs as nothing more than an analogy at best, not objective truth.
>>525171093Demon detected
>>525172177What started the big bang, chink? Quantum fluctuations that have exactly the same amount of proof as god? You're so new it's cute
EARTH IS A LOOSH FARM AND THIS THREAD IS FULL OF IGNORANT NIGGERS
Her bolt-ons were great as a kid watching late night direct to tv movies
>>525172184God is not a person. God is the act of reversion to the mean. You can't have good without bad and vice versa. Yin and yang. God is the dao.
Original gnostics must have been an interesting lot, but these modern tarot card hippies are substanceless.
>>525170333>Because people aligned with their own Divine Awareness are impossible to control or rule over.It's because they cause too much social friction, not because they're impossible to control or rule over.
>>525170333>stupid hippie looking foid I’ll pass
>>525170333Read the Gnostic gospels and you will find your answer. Half of them believed having sex was a sin. Those were the most normal ones with the best morals to boot. The rest were proto-Satanists. A bunch of self destructive behavior. They needed little to no killing to die out.
>>525190143>"We have such hits to blow you"
>>525190557>They needed little to no killing to die out.They still exist, just now they call themselves Jews and Freemasons.
>>525179332Every Christian believes this.
>>525170333people have shown again and again that they have no such thing as "their own Divine awareness"
>>525172009Sounds like christcucks
>>525170333>why did the catholics and orthodox christians wipe out the gnostics?Same reason they wiped out all the Pagan religions.All must worship the Grim Grey God.
>>525173254>DUDE water and trees and sky lmaoWhat is existence like for the fish in that water, or the bugs on those trees, or the birds in that sky?
>>525170934saul arrived 4 years after Jesus died and ascended to heaven
>>525173254you forgot the follow-up image
>>525179208you retards are going extinct. what fucking strength to armenians have to brag about?
>>525179667how is that working out for you though? is armenian prospering before your retarded jesus comes back and brings all the dead retards with him?
>>525190841They kept losing their works from medieval book burnings. Just turned to straight up devil worshiping and blackmail. Worst devolution ever. Original Gnostics were against this sort of behavior. Because elites do it for evil control mechanisms.
>>525181217>Also, for the record, the church back in these days was not all that powerful. They couldn't really eliminate any opposing sects until much later just because they didn't have a way of forcing anyone to do anything. They more died off due to lack of support then actively persecuted.This is evidence of their error. Failure to be self-sustaining.
>>525173254I'm raping your mom in the forest in the background
