These people do not live in the real world. This idea that Maduro should be allowed to continue being a hub of terrorism and drug trafficking while causing a massive refugee crisis for the region is simply not feasible because all of the above impacts America. How can someone claim to be all about freedom and liberty while standing up for a communist dictator anyway? One who stole that oil infrastructure from US companies no less.
Show your flag Israeli
>>525190420>memeflagYeah, whatever, you’re so shame-filled you can’t even flag up. Eat shit. Faggot.
>>525190420Thomas Massie is right, stealing is wrong.
>>525190420>t. paranoid kike
>>525190505>can't refute>"Please oh please be a jewish flag. I can't deboonk him!"
>>525190592>>525190675>>525190679
>>525190420THOMAS MASSIE IS A UNITED STATES NATIONAL TREASURE.THE END.
>>525190420massie faggot
>>525190420sure you did moshe sure you did
>>525190420>MIGA upset that libertarians actually don't like war, unlike Trump who only pretended not to like war
>>525190420kek, Massie making the jews seethe, right on schedule.
>>525190799>>525190800>>525190679We're waiting.
It's American government money been handed to these Oil companies in order to obtain resources for American interests.It's the same underlying principle behind the government handing billions of dollars to the Somalian businesses in Minnesota.Of course the government is going to care about what happens with that money.
>>525190751show tiny cap Shlomo mein Schvartze.
>>525190420.I lost respect for Thomas Massie even more, I mean I don't have respect given to him in the first place, anyway.He is a grifter, imho. The price of invasion was virtually 0 dollars, and helps US in the long run. If he isn't some staunch Rightist, he leans as a puppet of BRICS.
>>525190420>pedophile authoritarian good>libertarian badStarting to notice something…
>>525190868There's nothing there to refute
>>525190881it's the other way around, US governnment acts for the oil industry's private interestslook at what happened to oil company stocks after Maduro was kidnapped and you'll see what this was about - it's not about "terrorism" (non-existent from Venezuela - the US just blew up a bunch of innocent people though) or "drug trafficking" (the Sacklers walk around free in America)
>>525190420Never had any for them in the first place, but explain how he's wrong, exactly.
>>525190899Thanks for the input memeflag, but you're a shill.
>>525190505>>525190592>>525190675>>525190799>>525190800>>525190862>>525190883Alright you've had your fun posting boring adhom, now post an argument.
>>525190883You are jew with your jewish no penis version of libertarianism and your curly haired jew lover massie who sides with jewish democrats on every issue, especially stuff related to the border and the cartels
>>525190899>post seething about Massie>isrweli flagI don’t know why you even bother
>>525190420>This idea that Maduro should be allowed to continue being a hub of terrorism and drug traffickingBro save the thinly veiled propaganda for your fellow retards,Most of the world has woken up to the fact that every time the US needs to bomb someone, it's because they are a dictator or terrorist.We have seen you bring Democracy to nations by bombing them and ruining their nation while you plunder their resources enough times to see through the bullshit.Why do you think Trump is speaking openly about oil?He realizes no on but the true kool aid drinking window lickers still fall for these fairy tales.
>>525190917If there's nothing to refute then either you've not read the thread or you're just done participating.
>>525190899Mordecai mein Schvartze... How many shekels will make you sing Hava nagila?Tell me mein Schvartze.!!
>>525190420>ITS ABOUT HECKIN OIL AND REGIME CHANGEso?
>It's about oil and not drugsWhat did he mean by this?
>>525191030>Oil>Regime change >For fun Why can't it be all of it? Fuck those commies
>>525190420what if trump paid us for the oil and tariffs
When it comes to drugs, they're just a transit point. By not building the wall in Mexico, they're completely fake and gay, as you all know.
>>525190420Why am I supposed to be mad about Trump pulling the heist of the century?
>>525190420>This is not what we voted forHey, that's probably the same line the people who claimed the 2024 Venezuelan election was illegitimate used
>>525191030lol and jews act like they aren't profiting off of drugs coming into America and killing Whites. They never shut it down and they never will.
>>525190996Rabbi ridiculous you DISINGENUOUS putz... When will you outrid kikes quit GASLIGHTING & LYING SHLOMO???go gobble diseased schmeckles in your bomb shelter. Enjoy your synagogue circle jerks. Win an Olympic medal at any winter summer SPECIAL OLYMPICS. YOU SHEKEL OBSESSED GENOCIDAIRES....roflmfao... All you get are trolls cunt rat face. The days of trusting kikes are long Long LONG GONE... YOU'RE VERMIN FILTH. THIS GOYIM SEE YOU. KYS KYS KYS... like the IDF en masse kys
>>525190996You're a filthy kike...You're worthless. Useless valueless... You're like shit on a shoe Shlomo... Stfu & kys rat...Dance & sing hava nagila for the anons rat
>>525190996>I LoSt ReSpEcT bEcAuSe tHeY dOn'T tHiNks LiKe Me alright buddy try to understand the argument first then you might get an answer Having consistency and morals doesn't sound like an insult to me. Massie is right. Venezuela never "stole" the US oil they broke the contract and not only paid for it, but also had 31 tons of gold and several billion in the SWIFT system stolen and never returned. That beside the US who liquidated the CITGO assets (to a billionaire jew who lobbied Trump directly and who's paying a PAC against the reelection of Thomas Massie). Your country genuinely stole more money from Venezuela than those contracts were worth. I'm not joking. Now Trump pretend the whole Venezuelan oil reserve belong to the US because some jews lobbied him at Mar-a-Lago. probably promised a Trump golf course in Venezuela and a Trump tower, a lot of money the usual. You guys are transforming patriotism into cultism. The same kind of patriotism that was sold to the US after 9/11 (by the same peoples) you lack judgement if you don't realise right now you're being shafted not in 10 years right now
>>525190996Gaslighting kike liars.
>>525190996Gaslighting Zionist GENOCIDAIRES
>American corporation legally leases land >They develop the land and build facilities to harvest the natural resources on that land>Socialists take over>They end the lease and steal the equipment >Lolberts support this
KYS KIKE LIAR
>>525191030>Why do you think Trump is speaking openly about oil?Because he wants the oil, obviously. That doesn't contradict what I said.It's an obvious geopolitical power move by the US because it's useful to have this oil rich nation be on our side rather than on the side of Russia and China and Iran and Cuba. Obviously. It's also a fact that Maduro has wrecked the country and they'd be better off being under the US umbrella.All of their oil infrastructure was built by Western companies. It isn't Maduro's. The commies stole that infrastructure and proceeded to do a shit job of running it, oil output decreased massively, most of the infrastructure is dilapidated, and the country is a failed state now with 9 million citizens fleeing the country over the last decade. This is the same thing that happened when the communist retard Mugabe decided to steal white farmers land in Zimbabwe and then a few years later ended up suffering constant famine as a result. To name one example of many.Does it tell you something that every ACTUAL Venezeulan person is cheering for Maduro being arrested meanwhile the only people crying about it are pampered college student leftists in the West, who would never dream of living in these shitty dictatorships?
>>525190420Nobody here is dying for greater israel schlomo.
>>525190420There was no terrorism and there wasnt much drug trafficing, of which none was fentanyl. Kys lying jew.
>>525190986>non-existent from VenezuelaThey emptied their prisons and mental institutions and sent those people to America to commit crime and generally cause havoc - and they have. Venezuelan gangs took over apartment buildings and killed a lot of people.
>>525190505>>525190592Kill yourself newfags
>>525190679The first Jewish president himself said it was about oil. Which means it's neither about oil nor drugs.So show flag. Because we know what it's about.
>>525191428>>525191535>>525191630>>525191761>quadruple reply>JEW KIKE JEW KIKE Yada yada yada you sperg or possibly enraged muslim/libtard. Calm the fuck down and engage in the thread instead of just spamming jew jew jew jew. You actually make antisemitism boring, even for us that want the holocaust to ACTUALLY happen (it hasn't actually yet by the way).Take notes from this >>525191629 anon, you fucking faggot. And yes I'm name-calling because you are genuinely cancer.
>>525190420No. I want an actual American idealist like Massie to be president. Not some jew dick sleeve like Vance or Trump. Massie is our only hope of breaking the stranglehold of jews on our country. Shit, Washington and Jefferson would tar and feather Trump and today’s Republicans. Imagine fighting to build a country for white Christians, and you see it taken over by Jewish oligarchs and flooded with jeets. Massie is based. He stands for something. MAGA stands for whatever the jew semen enjoyer says it stands for.
>>525190420Op is LITERALLY mentally retarded lol, drank the kool aid idiot, fr fr ahahahaha
>>525192135Aww are you the same faggot desperately spamming every other thread that points out your kike owners?
>>525192023>show flagAnon, I...We were talking about Venezuelan oil YEARS ago. This is nothing new or groundbreaking. So obvious to spot the newfags stuck in the weekly news cycle. Oil is ONE of the factors, and a big one. Half of the world's superpowers had their eyes set on controlling them too.
>>525192135You realize “yada yada yada” is Yiddish right retard?
>>525190420nope i lost respect for them a long time ago. they exist only to be a poison pill supporting things they ideologically should be against and purity spiraling to protest things they should support.
>>525190420>Anyone else lost a lot of respect for Lolbertarianscan't lose what you never had
Every time the United States becomes deeply involved in Southeast Asia, Afghanistan, Mexico, or Colombia, drug production somehow skyrockets. Under the guise of countering this, a drug war unfolds, and the governments and intelligence agencies of these countries become deeply integrated into the US.They solve nothing. In fact, things get worse. In Afghanistan, the withdrawal of US forces led to an immediate improvement in this problem.
>>525190420We’ve warned you about lolbergs for a long time
>>525190420>respect>libertarianswhat? people respect libertarians?
>>525192522think bigger. when ever the government does ANYTHING the opposite happens.>war on drugs>war on terrorism>war on povertyet cetera.
>>525192565potheads respect other potheads I suppose
>>525190420Defending communists is NOT libertarian. And attacking corporations and oil production sure as shit ain't libertarian. That fuck is a snake in the grass.t. actual Libertarian.
>no argument>scream JEW JEW JEW 24/7Wow, you guys are even more pathetic than they say. Yall aren't even white, are ya?
>>525190420
>>525192417I didn't know that. I only use it to signify you post the most boring and predictable spam.>>525192290No, my last thread I was in was in /ck/ talking about baking fries in high smoke-point oil...
>>525190862>Hitler fights commie jews>/pol/ defends commie jews while pretending to be hitleresque Maybe, you should kill yourself, commie jew.
>>525190420>This idea that Maduro should be allowed to continue being a hub of terrorism and drug trafficking while causing a massive refugee crisis for the region is simply not feasible because all of the above impacts America.you spelled sheinbaum wrong
>Thomas Massie: "I despise jews">Me: BASED, BASED, BA->Thomas Massie: *follows it up with faggot shit*>Me: :^|every fucking time
>>525192632This is more a matter of the US government's ill will.As was the case with Panama's Noriega, they publicly condemned and punished their own collaborator for the crimes they themselves had committed.In other words, these are tools of imperial governance from the start, and resolving them through gay means are never intended from the start.
>>525193010Faggotry aside, I respect he doesn't back away from being the one Nay vote though.
>>525192899>I didn’t realize I exposed myself being jewish Fuck off Shmuley.
>>525190420libtardarians have always been dumbass fags
>>525193105Boring. Filtered so I can see real discussion.
>>525192378That's the thing about everything Trump has acted on in his second admin. They all have the same one factor now.
Kikes must leave America back to Israel
>>525190986>US just blew up a bunch of innocent people thoughPost the images of dead venezuelans after being bombed.I am from Caracas. I have been to the places that got bombed. Only military targets, military aircraft hangars and AA SAMs got hit. The barracks and habitations right next to them untouched. Power went back on to the southern half of the city in 38 hours.Please, explain to everyone how I or anyone else around me died to an US JDAM. Because I'm still here. And so is everyone else.
>killing an enemy and taking his treasureHow is this different from an RPG? All these shills are pretending to be mad over the most basic shit.
>>525190420"i was notified of [thing] occurring. i am respectfully against [thing] having occurred and am against [the next thing] occurring." -thomas massieground breaking stuff. nice twitter thread op. please never return.
>>525192378You're right. They've been trying to install an obvious puppet in Venezuela since Biden's time, and even long before that.Hardly anyone even remembers that Guaidó's name.What this means is that Trump is nothing but a puppet.
>>525190420>These people do not live in the real world. This idea that Maduro should be allowed to continue being a hub of terrorism and drug trafficking while causing a massive refugee crisis for the region is simply not feasible because all of the above impacts America. How can someone claim to be all about freedom and liberty while standing up for a communist dictator anyway? One who stole that oil infrastructure from US companies no less.Latin, Russian, and US Libertarians promoted and co-ordinated the whole damn thing. Libertarians have returned to their 1980's mode of stamping out commies and Islamo-commies and their propagandist dupes who promote commie fellow-traveler Massie as a 'radical Libertarian' -- like you. Now listen to your mommie and KYS.
>>525193276They got him diddling children. Of course he’s controlled.
>>525193150This one's different in my books, since it's cucking China and Russia who are actively cucking us. I'm like 60% MAGA, but if >>525193007 like says, we go boots on the ground, Afghanistan style to wipe out cartel and dethrone scheinbaum, I'd be 110% maga. Keeping my fingers crossed.
didn't even know it was still a thing.
>>525190505This... attacks on Massie are the sloppyist of jobs.
>>525193233The worst part is that the oil is stolen goods. The companies were from the US and the governments before Chavez took place had agreements and contracts about how those facilities would be run and how it'd benefit the country. The communists stole the money and what they did with it? Invest in infrastructure? Socialist policies? Anything for the people?Nah.They bought Iranian planes, Hind helicopters, AK-103s and paid off their colleages to pay for their campaigns in Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico and Spain. With oil money stolen from the US. With drug money from smuggling into the US. From stolen money from gangs extorting our own people and kidnappings in the US and abroad. From FARCs terrorizing half the continent by having free access to aircraft and helicopters from Venezuelan bases to conduct their operations from.It is vile what happened here in the last 25 years. Justice was served. What comes after, only the grit of those wanting retribution will tell.
>>525190420lolberts are cucks>ugh leave me alone!!its the most retarded way of thinking since communismreal men want to take whats in front of them and use power
>>525190420Novus Ordo Seclorum
>>525193196Upload a pic of blown up hugo chavez
>>525190420fuck off kike who cares if it's about oil we need oil and I need it for my truck that gets 1,000 feet to the gallon fuck china fuck russia fuck the kikes fuck the shit skins we need it fuck them
>>525193659I don't have one, the grave mausoleum was not hit despite what they said on MSM. I fucking wish they did goddamn.
>>525193715
>>525193715Is this real?
Have you ever noticed the people that hate the government the most are the first people who would lose everything if it collapsed?
>The local leftist government is corrupt, incompetent amateurs apparently colluding with the cartels, so give us more discretion over them to fight the criminals.t. glownigger on the phone while grinning and watcing the anti-communist peasant militias manage poppy fields.
>>525193745>"fuck off kike" >he must love isreal
>>525193719You shitting me? What the fuck did they hit?
>>525190420the man has a very good heart and i agree with his principles -in theory- but i'm starting to come to terms with the fact that he is not a geopolitical realist.
>>525190624It’s not stealing if you say it’s yours.
>>525193919House of the Secretary of Defense, the Military School (but not the barracks right next to it). Hangars and Containers that had SAM batteries inside. Heliports. Airport runways. Very specific stuff.This is just in Caracas. I did hear there were strikes in Maracaibo and the other western parts of the country where the actual Venezuelan Airforce is based on. Mostly just the same story from what I heard. Only military assets were hit.
>>525190420Libertarians are principled, just have take the good with the facepalms. In a perfect world they're right always, but we are not in a perfect white world.
>>525190899>>525190420YES GOY YESSSSS
didn't this board used to be pretty libertarian? what the fuck happened? it's full of bootlickers now
>>525191030What resources did we plunder from Iraq exactly?
>>525194031You probably want to say that Murica is tolerant because it only destroys military weapons, but that just means your country's defense assets are being destroyed, and you're entrusting your fate to others.That's nothing to be happy about, and based on past patterns, those guys are irresponsible to the point of being downright malicious, making everything worse.
>>525194031So whats this big building then? Or is the coffin not kept there
>>525190505>>525190592>>525190624>>525190675>>525190739>>525190799>>525190800>>525190862SILENCE PACO! SIT DOWN YOU BROWN LIBRUL COMMIES!!
>>525194056>Libertarians are principledOur arch enemies are communists. One of our favorite folk heroes is Pinochet. Any libertarian you see defending the removal of communists is a fraud. By any means necessary as they say, I say remove all marxist filth from the earth, and use any weapon you want to do it.
>>525190420I didn't, and I will donate more to his campaign as a result of your thread
I'm not overly skeptical about it, but it's certainly possible that they're constructing a narrative about its legitimacy by preparing actors to wave flags and welcome the liberator, I suppose.Given the flood of propaganda efforts I've seen so far.
>>525194206>that fucking favela Jesus christ. What the hell is going on down there?
>>525193715HOW IS THAT CAT DANCING LIKE THAT?
>>525194159I am extremely happy that the fucking communist head honcho got fucking arrested and dragged like the disgusting pig he is into actual court like he should have been since Obama put a pricetag on his head.I am NOT happy that this will mean the PSUV will just chimp out and try to enact gorilla warfare on the people that support US action in here to bring Justice. You probably don't remember that Maduro is not a legitimate leader and hasn't been for an entire year. The 2024 elections were completely ignored. Not stolen like the ones 8 years prior, ignored and the CNE cited bogus bullshit. I was at the ballots. 303+ votes to 80 just in my area alone. Called family and friends living across the country that were voting as well. Same thing basically everywhere. Even the PSUV official at the booth said there was change happening in resignation.But with terrorists, you can only treat them like the criminals that they are.
>>525190420>Trump: "So yeah we're gonna be taking the oil. We're moving American oil companies over there. We're gonna pump up oil production too because they're way underproducing the oil they could be pumping.">Massie: "Don't listen to Trump. This is really about oil!"Why is it always clown hour with these people?
>>525194394nanomachineshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mancha_Negra
>>525190899>Durrr price of invasion>Durrrr>Hasn't been invaded yet>Durrrrrrrr>Lost Iraq>Lost Afghanistan>Not enough costs durrrr>Need more costsss>DurrrrrrrGet a flag fag
>>525190420Rolling up CIA narco assets is exactly what MAGA voted for.
>>525194362What a decade of communism does to a country.
itt, jews calling other jews hews to invalidate each other's arguments. /pol/ won.
>>525192175Massie is a faggot cuck that doesn't understand geopolitics as it relates to China, Russia, and America. One of those three are gonna run the world. I want it to be America. If we gotta break some shit to make that happen fine by me. I don't want the Chinese century.
>>525194448Well, they probably rigged the election to some extent. But correcting that isn't the job of the world police. It must be resolved within the sovereign nation itself. Otherwise, it invites foreign intervention like this, strips you of your means to resist, and turns you into mere vassal state that seeks judgment from the foreign overlord every time something similar happens.Americans pretend to be benevolent and tolerant, but they destroy everything on a more fundamental spiritual level than the communists of old ever did. did. Not that I'm defending the communists though.
venezuela has 0 worth
>>525194668Ive been to enough spic countries to know the lowest common denominator is the retarded population
>>525194903you're fucking retarded
>>525190420What infuriates me is that all of the people who scream "it's not about drugs, it's about stealing their oil," seem to miss the point that China and Russia were already straight-up stealing that oil. Maduro was selling out his country to hold on to power. And for that reason alone this is a textbook Monroe Doctrine situation.If we do actually take their oil at unfair prices, then that will be wrong, but we haven't done that yet and what we did in getting rid of Maduro to stop the regime giving it to China and Russia was 100% in line with 200 years of consistent U.S. Latin American policy.
>>525194815>then the communists ever didLol. This is a bit of histrionics, don't you think?
>>525194970Part of the issue is giving the retarded population gibsmedat through political maneouvering without actually investing in any infrastructure at all. Going to those favelas they have 18'' flat screens and chinese Redmi phones with top of the line cameras, but barely any water, no sewages and the power lines and phone services are tapped from the decaying poles from nearby areas that haven't been replaced since the 70's. It's utterly disgusting.
>>525195292No, let's compare West Germany and East Germany.For communists, nations were to be dissolved at the final destination of the future, so they merely used the remnants of Prussia there as propaganda for the revolutionary state. Yet, ironically, considering the current situation, they didn't destroy them as much as American rule did.It's truly ironic, considering America always pretends to be a trad to counter the commies.
>>525190679>>525191933>>525193410memeflag spam is israelis and their hired indians and the anti-thomas massie spam is the same template every time"Aww shucks any other fellow patriot americans tired of this fake republican"
>>525195496That's a bad case because what happened to West Germany was partly the result of how carried away denazification got (and that was as much or more due to Britain and France as to America). Compare West Germany to Japan, where the American occupation was much more pragmatic.
>>525195150LMAO faggot, buying it cheap isnt stealing its good business. America could have done the same, but your strength is war, killing and stealing. Now be a good goyim and fuck some niggas
>>525193394The only time I feel like he has any follow through any follow through anymore is for his elite donors.I also don't have confidence that starting conflicts in these countries will solve anything long term. The only thing we can do is close our borders to them. A major campaign promise that I think is unresolved and getting undermined by Trump's statements constantly.
>>525190420>Muh gommies>Muh drugsGreat argument. Your president is a pedophile who is doing this to distract from that. You are not entitled to other nations resources and the negrified culture you export is worse than any alleged drug bullshit.>>525190679>Waaah don't question meme flags waaaahh>>525191031Hearsay doesn't need to be refuted, nor does cold war tier blather about gommies. It's none of your fucking business what economic model other nations choose to follow and "Donald trump said so" is not proof of wrongdoing.
Why does /pol/ hate Libertarians when they're right on like 90% of things?
>>525196108>buying it cheap isnt stealing its good business. That's a Jew attitude if I ever saw one.Morally, it's stealing when you take advantage of corruption to avoid paying a fair price. Also, I'm not so much criticizing China and Russia with that statement as Maduro. He's the one who's been selling out his people for profit.The Monroe Doctrine dictates that we will never allow European (or by extension Asian) powers to re-colonize the Americas, whether formally or by economic domination.
THERE IS NO POLITICAL SOLUTION.the black pill is the white pill
>>525190420>memeflag You are a lying jew. None of that stuff is real, and actual people don't believe your lies.
>>525195908Another example is the difference between SK and NK: SK welcomed you as a savior, literally fucking circumcised themselves, and absorbed American values to the point where evangelicals literally flourished. The resulting modern SK is a horror story for me, showing what American liberal values bring. NK is also a shithole, but no foreigner in their country would dare look down on them and shit on them. Showing interest in gay shit there could genuinely get you executed.The Korean Peninsula, due to its historical context and undeniable similarities to Japan, is a valuable control experiment site for the Japanese. The answer is quite clear.Japan also should have ended up thoroughly like that too, but the outbreak of the Korean War changed course, leaving Japan barely surviving in a state of cardiac arrest. They show material wealth and tolerance, then slip into the lap of their unwary enemies to deliver the final blow.
>>525190505FPBP
>>525196623Everyone in the room looks like they are being held at gunpoint
>>525196745Korea was always going to go to shit once it was no longer under Japan.
>>525190420>>525191845
nopeMassie and Paul are the only two worth a shit in this MIGAfaggot govkys faggot OP
>>525197184>ad hominem for the 10,000th time ITTI accept your concession.
>>525190420By definition, libertarians are supposed to complain about anything the government does except downsizing.
>>525190420By this logic everything is everyone's problem. If everyone has the right to intrude upon everyone else's business with deadly force then do you think the world will be a better place?I don't want to live in a pvp server.
>>525190420> It's not American oil. It's Venezuelan oil.Fuck off you contrarian faggot. We been supporting brown niggers forever. Time we get shit in return
>>525190899America runs on credit. We dont care what the price is. The future deals with the bill. So fuck you.
>>525190881>It's American government money been handed to these Oil companies in order to obtain resources for American interests.>It's the same underlying principle It's the same principle of every big power in world history using its strength to gain resources for itself. The US has an ideal situation here because not only is it about that but it's also a country where everyone hates the communist government so there's actually widespread support for the US.Again, the only people upset about it are soft leftist college kids who know zero about geopolitics and unironic commies who can't take the fact that communism has once again failed. This makes it all the more hilarious that actual Venezuelan people are having to argue with middle class white libs to try to get it into their thick skulls that communism is bad. Remember, Chavez and Maduro were held up by the leftists as a shining example of 'socialism done right'. You had hollywood celebs praising Maduro and saying we could learn a thing or two. Bernie Sanders and his ilk were singing his praises too.Also see >>525191845>All of their oil infrastructure was built by Western companies. It isn't Maduro's. The commies stole that infrastructure and proceeded to do a shit job of running it,
>>525190420The thing that makes debating this so annoying is that there is still no official narrative on why this happened so everyone just has to make up reasons.
>>525198174Venezuela is extremely weak but geographically important.
>>525192175Don't really trust Massie after he completely changes his look and marries his hot secretary a year after his wife mysteriously dies
>>525190420no more stupid warsneocons are idiots
>its about oil and regime changeyea thats what trump said at his press conference
>>525190420i mean, i like massie for his outsized balls when it comes to the question of the massive jewish corruption in the US governmentbut the fact is, a lot of countries are shitholes that fail over and over to govern themselves. they won't develop the oil for shit, the tinpot dictators will have no competition so they'll artificially inflate their price by slowing supply. i'm all for some fucknut getting pulled out of his bedroom window cuz he's a cunt to everyone.we shouldn't have invaded iraq for the jews, that's regime change. snatching up one dude and telling the country to play nice is a totally different ballgame
>>525198174the official reason is maduro is an alleged narco terrorist
>>525190420Better go invade everywhere then. Trump better turn himself in for trail as well, he's got civve blood on his hands. What of the USs long history of helping/funding various cartels via CIA/NSA/FBI? The narco state should attack itself as well. He's getting his wish to play dictator, by taking out an easy one.Your countrymen wouldn't be so drug addled if their lives didn't suck.
>>525198860we're at war?
>>525190420>stealing is good actually Have miggers really come to this?
>>525190420Third worldism is getting wiped out
>>525190899>The price of invasion was virtually 0 dollars, Because it didn't achieve anything. Maduro's regime is still in charge.
>>525193196I've heard news reports of like 80 deadif they were really all military and you're not a glowie on a VPN, then I apologize
>>525192023>"Actually, wanting cheaper oil is a Jewish psyop"Nice to see all the "jooo" posters, are seething shitskins larping as "america first".
>>525190899Kek why the Nazi flag u Jewish retard. Use your correct flag
>>525190420Sure but that's not easy the war is about. Why should the US taxpayer fund a foreign invasion on behalf of corporations every time their risky business deals in shithole countries backfires?
We've known about the oil for decadesGo back to sleep, bunker trannies
>>525190420actually MIGA I mean MAGA is pro-regime change now and we are totally not going to lose the midterms.
>>525190420It's hilarious because nobody trusts when glowtards say that Maduro doesn't have popular support, but it must be true lol.
>>525190420TOTAL.JEWISH.DEATH.
>>525200085As I said before. It was pretty much surgical strikes with very minimal casualties. I don't mind it. Just make sure you research shit too.
>>525190420there is such a thing as victory disease.Our next move may not be as successful
>>525190420I already lost all my respect for Libertarians when I grew up.
>>525190420Desu he looks like a traitor here. Like a 5th column representative of enemy interests.The right move here would be to go against the jew. Not against American interests >inb4 it's jew interests that trump is pursuing then he should tell it how it is. Otherwise it's just a lose lose situation
>>525190800It's funny because Trump won the 2024 election by using Libertarian talking points.
>>525190679How about don't wear a jew's/pajeet's uniform f you don't want to get treated like one? Nobody but OP chose to use a memeflag for that botched abortion of a post. Geo flags are literally the default option.
>>525190420I think the USA should just go full mask off and take over these retarded fake nations.
He is a bad Goyim, >:(
>>525190420> Maduro was a hub or terrorismWTF, that isn't even grammatically correct.
>>525190505>>525190996>>525190899>>525190679Jews>>525190505First post best post
Sorry massie but American imperialism is based.
>>525190420Should be thrown from helicopters
>>525190420kikes mad and want dems back for more gibs and to take in more shitskins
>>525190420They support maduro because orange man bad.
>>525194017>It’s not stealing if you say it’s yoursChinese Post Best Post
>>525190420>claim to be all about freedom and liberty while standing up for a communist dictatorbecause it's about individual liberty not a collective
>>525205087>They support maduro because orange man badNah it's because they want dead whites
Massie is WAKE UP SHEEPLE posting he’s so madLmfao get fucked you dumb pussy
>>525190420Massie seems to be the only politician in USA that has a brain
>>525205229>Wake up sheeple Russia and China good and US badYes we heard you. Literally tens of thousands of times. It's still an inversion of reality and a regime of repetitive imprinting psychosis is an insult to humanity.
>>525197741Government should just be one guy standing ontop of a tower banging pans together towards the direction of someone doing something illegal.
>>525191800>American corporation legally leases land>they develop the land and build facilities to harvest the national resources on that land>the contract stated that all the facilities would become property of Venezuela when the contract was over>socialist takes over>they finish the contracts prematurely and don't compensate the companies>international courts ruled in favor of the oil companies>Venezuela owes a few bullion USD to American oil companies>Venezuela didn't pay anywayThat's what happened. What Trump said was pure bullshit:>Trump claims Venezuela stole land and oil from the USA>captures the local dictator at the behest of oil companies
>>525196796They are all kikes and they all deserve to have their heads cut off
Libertarianism for countries is a meme.It would work in a society full of intelligent people who have a common goal and realize that just contributing to the team is more beneficial than trying to steal from it. But no such society exists.That stuff can only work for smaller groups like companies, see Valve for example.For any larger group, you need strict rules, and the rules need to be enforced harshly. Because dipshits and midwits love trying to abuse their total freedom for their personal benefit, at the expense of the group.
>>525190420what the fuck is massie on about like seriously? he used to be pretty based until recently. anyone with half a brain will read that and simply nod thier head in agreement. a Tyrant got removed with as little bloodshed as possible and hes over there kicking up a storm.I dont respect trump but damn if it isnt impressive that his admin pulled this shit, Too bad that Cheeto man is an advid kike cock sucker.
>>525194752this is the correct answer. massie is a traitor on the payroll to foreign entities or an incompetent fool. either way he is a detriment to America.
>>525190420America should be an empire. We shouldn't accept multipolarity and simply allow communist shit holes to enslave people worldwide. We have a responsibility to uphold just and righteous human rights across the globe, not just in our own backyard.We have a moral obligation to end nigger communism.
>>525190420No one has ever taken libertarians seriously. They don't even believe their own shitMassieCultists are just cucks or chinks
>>525190420Because the play is obvious and there's nothing anyone can do about it if they aren't willing to attack the administration in Roblox.
>>525190420>libertarian>Oil belongs to the state not private companies that pump it out of the groundBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA Reminder: Massie was cheating on his first wife with his current wife when she (((died)))
>>525208981>Says all the same shit the boomers that led this country to ruin said to invade several foreign countries over the past five decades>"This will surely help the average American THIS TIME"Your son will kill white people in Greenland so Elon can develop microchips.
>>525190420Integrity is a foreign concept to miggers.
>>525190996>I won't follow any laws that can't be enforced upon me by forceThis is the same nigger thinking that leads to stores getting looted by niggers. Therefore America is right now a nigger nation and should be treated as such. That's my argument
>>525191098So, it means you have zero integrity or principles. You served only to fellate trump. Gj.
>>525190420I have huge respect for libertarians because they are consistent with their beliefs, thats insanely rare, I dont agree with them but I do respect them a lot for that, you can always talk to a libertarians and have a decent conversation about politics without him trying to constantly lie. Trump supporters are not like that at all, they flip flop on all issues when they are being sycophants to Trump and trying to explain away all his misdeeds, libertarians actually believe in something, miggers are just sycophants
>>525209254And Donald Trump cheated on his wife with all those minors Epstein (Mossad) got him, so?
>>525190420>lives of US soldiers are being riskedyeah no shit? that's the point of being a soldier
>>525190420>hub of terrorism and drug traffickingProof?
>>525208981The only thing you produce is jewish propaganda, betting apps and financial bubbles. China builds more ships in one year than you do in 25, they're the biggest economy in the world (PPP measured) since 2014 and you guys have only grown poorer, dumber and browner since then. You're here bragging about a kidnapping and future looting like the niggers of the world you are. You aren't an empire, you're a black hobo on fent on a parking lot that other countries pay to not trash their cars. White people are laughing at you, sit down and let them laugh you can't do anything about it
>>525207255lol zero fucking difference
>>525190420NO PUSSY NO WAR
>>525190420>its not american oilit's about to be
>>525190420>How can someone claim to be all about freedom and liberty while standing up for a communist dictator anyway?It would be one thing if the Venezuelan people would simply kill Maduro himself. I'd say he'd certainly deserve it. But that doesn't give the United States the right to go out and kill him ourselves. That's not our decision to make. The only legitimate usage of military force is defensive.Also, all drugs should be legal. Fuck you.
>>525209302It's insane to watch how everyone flipped, but right on schedule. People just want their team to win, they don't have the integrity or intelligence to hold consistent beliefs or opinions, or even to change those to respond to nuance. They just change it to respond to "my guy did it so it's good. Your guy mad so it's good. My guy mad so it's bad. Your guy did it so it's bad"
>>525209472Being a sycophant to Trump REQUIRES flip flopping. Gigantic flip flops in the past month on Epstein and international regime change alone
>>525190420What's with all the communists in this thread pretending to be Nazis? Is this board becoming brown or something? Hitler would've been launching V2s at Maduro if he was around nowadays.
>>525190505Based and fpbp
>>525209684Might as well just do stupid shit to get more of them killed then retard
>>525190420He's fine when he's shitting on kikes, based even, but he's like a fuckin magpie when it comes to this type of dumb bullshit. Yeah Trump is posturing, so why are you letting him distract you from actual domestic issues? No one gives a fuck about Maduro.
>>525190420Amazing how he frames the Communists in Venezuela seizing private property and reneging on a contract a case which Venezuela even lost in the International Chamber of Commerce how very Libertarian of him to be anti-private property
>>525210183True, Trump is such a liar that he imprints it on his retarded supporters too
>>525190420>LolbertariansI don't speak Hindi. Can you translate this to English?
lolberts have been irrelevant since 2016. All they know how to do is virtue signal and grandstand in opposition, they never knew how to govern and nationalists overshadowed them with actual action. No one respects them as le principled opposition anymore.
>>525210265Where does he say that? All he says is Americans are being dragged into a potential conflict to protect the assets of retarded oil companies.
>>525190420>How can someone claim to be all about freedom and liberty while standing up for a communist dictator anyway?Because Venezuela is not my country. Whatever they do is their business and their concern, not mine. Likewise, America is not your concern, because you are an Israeli behind that memeflag. Stop meddling in our country's affairs. You hate Massie because you can't buy him with your 30 pieces of silver like you used to buy Trump's corrupt ass.
>>525190420>terrorist>drug trafficker>antisemiteIs he literally Hitler?
>>525210470>"The deals were cancelled by a prior Venezuelan government"They illegally seized private property and assets from private companies and lost in international court and never paid the compensation ordered, Massie's framing is dishonest at best
>>525210619The lolberts are just mad their source of cheap illegal labor is being deported and drying up.
>>525190420I've gained respect for libertarians and have lost respect for "conservatives." And I don't even believe in democracy, so I'm not really a libertatian.All it took was 24 hours of manufactured content to sucker you into supporting another neocon nationbuilding project.
>>525211017*consent
>>525211017Yea bro two more weeks of lolbertarian virtue signaling and theyll finally actually do something
>>525211017Why do you care tho? The operation was quick and quiet. The only ones that died were the leaders foreign bodyguards (which also imply bad things about him) while the countries actual citizens celebrate. This is the definition of a win-win even when it's also a distraction from real domestic issues. Since it's a side win why are you letting it distract you from actual issues?
>>525190420>its venezuelan oilnot anymore. What makes something someones property? Power. Who has the power? America.
>>525190420no respect left to lose
>>525211700>Who has the power?The Jews.
>>525190800What war? Theres no troops on the ground
>>525190624>stealing is haramJews hate this simple statement, zoggies cannot comprehend it. The venuzalian government might be retarded, but it was their oil.
>>525190899>Imagine rugpulling the native liberal false flaggers fighting for democracy in a foreign country by giving the population a reason to not trust liberalism. It really was a chaos maneuver.
>>525190420>>525190899Massie is right and the invasion was literally a way to cover up the files whose deadline coincided was Jan 3rd.
Jews really hate this guy, huh
>>525191933hey moshe, it doesn’t work like that. you can’t just throw around newfag accusations behind your meme flag. didn’t idf give you an updated script?
>>525190505>>525190592>>525190675You deranged golem mutts know this whole thing is in service of Israel rightThere are few people that Israel and the jews hate more than maduro>inb4 maduro is le crypto kikeHis grandfather was a half jew that converted, fuck off they use that same tactics to try to paint hitler as jewishMaduro was a cunt and a terrible dictator, both for being incompetent and causing unnecessary suffering to venezuelans, but the entire operation is done purely for israel
>>525208981Whites in America are tortured in jails and schools and prisons by non whites and we live under a Jewish police state.>>525205430>>525205229(((Jewish))) mongrels and Chinese mongoloids sounds like it has nothing to do with me. I’ll avoid non whites while they figure this out. Off to the woods I go wherever diversity doesn’t exist.
>>525190420I never had any respect for massie. Dude votes for open borders every chance he gets.
>>525190420based massieshame they're gonna kill this wife too
>>525190420>being a hub of terrorism and drug traffickingLook into the CIA a bit.
>>525190420>It's Venezuelan oil.That's not what a libertarian would say, certainly not what an ancap would say anyway.
>>525214219property rights are paramount in libertarianism
>>525190505fpbp
>>525214389>property rights are paramount in libertarianismSo he's backing the oil company rights to reclaim their oil infrastructure and contacts?
>>525214840surethey don't get the oil though
>a brown venezuelan can become an American and proliferate and create a demographics changeIf this attack on Venezuela doesn't help to reduce venezuelan crime and immigration in the USA then it's useless.Unless you muricans deal with the elephant in the room, which is that only white men of good character can be Americans, then all of this is useless.
>>525190420Massie is vantablack brimstone from Niggerhell.
>>525216234still whiter than you
>>525190420>politically and economically isolate a country>get mad when they resort to antisocial behaviorJust like the Jews after they initiated the international boycott of Germany.
>>525190420OP can you explain what the connection is? I don't get it. If it's about Massie, he is a Republican.I lost respect for the Libertarian party when they didn't win any elections for all of recorded history. I like them on a lot of their political positions but if you can't win then high ideals are worthless. You must first be able to win and then also have high ideals.
>>525216234>countersignal Trumphe doesn't owe Trump unconditional loyalty. He's not Trump's employer, father, or God. You sound like a pussy faggot.
The amount of oil consumed in the West is cultivated and curated. There are all sorts of technologies we could embrace and subsidize as a country that would bring the number down (no, not to zero, that would be unrealistic).Massie certainly understands this as he has an off grid house and an electric car. He'd probably be a retard libertarian about the subsidies, but the logic is sound nonetheless.
>>525195389Yes its called low IQ. Thats what happens when have an entire race of people that doesnt have morals or intelligence. Everyone cheats, steals, and doesnt give a shit about their community. Even in the states wherever spics show up, huge piles of trash start appearing along the roads.
>>525190420I find it interesting how mondern rightwingers are repeating bullshit talking points from neo cons 20 years ago. The american right are full of retards.
>>525190899Yeah, open borders for Israel, am i right? Lol lmao
>>525190996Post nose
>>525209369Always has been boludo
>>525190420this place used to worship ron paul, now posts like these are being made
>>525216134The whole point of the op was to increase. Civil war between rival factions with massive loss of life in northern South America, the Caribbean, and Central America was the result of the last Langley war game that played out this exact campaign. It was highly recommended against as it would cause a massive influx of war hardened migrants into the US. Oh well, it’s worth it for those papusa am I right!?!?
>>525190420It’s America’s job to secure our borders not police other Nations.Suck a dick, jewboy
>>525190420So they made a deal with American companies to extract the oil, and the commie dictator decided to keep it all for himself? Doesn't sound very fair to me.
>>525218742You seem to have inverted things. They already imported the migrants in massive numbers during the Biden years, and now Trump is locking the border and blowing up the boats. In your conception it's reversed and the angry military migrants come later, but they've been here for years and Trump probably deported a lot of them.
>>525216309>still whiter than you
>>525219308>They already imported the migrants in massive numbers during the Biden years>immigration only started under Bidenthis kind of brainrot needs to be put up against a wall and shot
>>525190420In every conflict there are three sides: less evil, more evil and retarded.Lolbertarians are always the retarded side.
>>525219861I didn't say that, you did, stupid.I said 'in massive numbers' I'm referring to the large scale migrant caravans funded by Soros combined with the Biden administrations willingness to import them and cover it up. As contrasted by the Trump years where he is working to deport them all. Stop fantasizing about shooting me, you would never win. I would defeat you in 100 out of 100 encounters. You are beneath me.
>>525220234More immigrants come in legally every 6 months than every caravan combined ever. And they've been doing that since the early 90s.
