Gardening contributes to climate change https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/22/carbon-footprint-homegrown-food-allotment-increase/Should governments ban gardening to reduce carbon emissions?
>>525193244>(((Pinkstone)))
They do realise that plants consume CO2 as part of photosynthesis, yes?>noOh, my bad.
I don't give a fuck about carbon, but the truth is that small scale farming does release a lot more nitrogen pollution than large scale. When you're growing a small area, you don't need much fertilizer, so there's no incentive not to use "a little extra" or not bother measuring it out at all. Large scale farms use lots of costly fertilizer, and have strong incentive not to overfertilize. A huge amount of nitrogen in the Pacific comes from China, which has millions of small scale family farms that systemically over fertilize.
>>525193244Lol I don't care what they say anymore. They are deceptive liars.
>>525193859Yeah but most weekend warrior gardeners are unmistakably wasteful in their habits. Getting small lots of topsoil trucked to their house every season or two because they don't know how to manage their land is the primary contributor. In absolute terms it's nothing but on a per pound of produce basis it's pretty bad. Also all the plastic structures and meme tools they buy from temu every year doesn't help either.
>>525193244plants consume carbon dioxide and release oxygen
>>525193980big farmer shill detected
>>525193244they are so fucking retarded it's unbelievable
>>525193244every green faggot needs to be hanged
>>525193244Why don't they got rid of all that dangerous Co2 then we could all relax?
>>525194203by climate change they mean population size and they want you dead.
>growing food isn't convention
>>525194053No I'm just a guy who's been gardening sustainably for about 20 years who also recognizes how wasteful and thoughtless the overwhelming majority of casual hobbyist gardeners are. I don't think them stopping or even modifying their behavior is necessary because I don't buy the carbon driven anthropogenic climate change myth but it's undeniable that the average middle class hobby gardener is less materially efficient than a dedicated farm. Insofar as co2 is the subject in question (it shouldn't be) they are doing more "harm" in carbon terms for a given output than a megafarm.
>>525193921You're a fucking redditor, mate, full of shit. Presumably plants wither in your mere presence.What is expensive is little bottles of bespoke fertilizer mix, yes, and even that lasts ages.Buying sacks of urea or standard npk fertilizer is cheap as all fuck per kilogram.So no, as history has already shown farmers will absolutely slather their land in that shit, with a side of insecticides and herbicides, causing absolute ecocide.The only thing stopping them is having their anus rightly blown to kingdom come by means of regulation.Retard.
Ridiculous. I grow my foods with dried ground up fish bones and guts, seaweed, and rock dust, not fucking “nitrogen”. The microbiome and fungi do all the actual work, I just let it rot. These queers might as well be telling me to take the COVID vaccine.
>>525194277>Yas big daddy government, agencies, and corporations please strip me of my rights and freedoms I love living in a dystopian minority report shithole mutt mega metropolis
>>525194277 checkedYou inspired me.This year, I will buy even more commercial top soil, will fertilize even more, will plant everything I have and I will harvest nothing.Well I would have done that anyway.
>>525193980>weekend warrior gardenersfucking lol
>>525194453suck my intact foreskin kike>>525194469Have fun. I'd hope you'd at least eat some of the produce but either way it's going to do good for your property's soil health in the long term.
>>525193244>MUH CURBUN FUTPRUNTdamn, i always suspected home gardening was based, always nice to have confirmation though
>>525193244Sponsored by corporate agriproducer congolomerates to prevent consumers from avoiding high grocery prices
>>525194277not your property not your problem Plus your own household petrocarbon and plastic consumption doesnt matter if you have a garden or not
>>525193244algae makes the O2 for aerobics like us,everything else is make believe pretend fairy dust.The amazon rainforest is one of the largest sources of CO2 of earthThe oceans, rivers, lakes, and ponds do ALL the heavy liftingthey just don't want people to be able to feed themselvesfuck the jews
i don't even know how things like this get published. This is some next level shameless shit.
I literally do not care about climate change. My government imports hundreds of thousands of shitskins every year who don't give two shits about the environment and who demand to live in new build houses surrounded by concrete.
>>525194067Trust the Science, antisemite
>>525193980>implying the jeets working the factories aren't more wastefulat multiple dollars for a fucking organe, it's blatant i'm not the problem.i can grow a tomato for a few fucking cents.
>>525193244No wonder Gov. Whitler banned gardening in Michigan during COVID! She should have also banned pet ownership, since a dog creates as much CO2 as driving a bigass SUV around. GAS THE MUTTS!!! GAS THE CATS!!!
>>525194532> have funThank you. Watching plants grow is one of the best activities a man can do on this planet.> reap what you sowNot really. I don't use pesticides except for FePO4 because fuck those invasive slimy shits. Consequently, my yields are abysmal, but I don't care. It's fun.> improving topsoilYep, composting is fun. Anything serving as an excuse for keeping an array of piss bottles is fair game for me.And trees. I will plant some again.> nitrogen in watersTrue, that's a problem.
>>525193244No
>>525194975>FePO4thank you for teaching me this, I hate those fuckers to
>>525193951You're destroying the earth chud
>>525194532Yeah sure I'm the kike fuck you jew fag bastard can you make it anymore obvious stupid dumb fuck
>Agenda 2030 Tick tock UK.
>>525193921Wow you're retarded.
>>525194277>wastefulpublic sector is wastefulimporting niggers is wastefuljewish wars are wastefulflying aeroplanes for leasure is wastefulshitskins are wastefuljewish consumerism is wastefulfuck off jew
>>525194277(((Wasteful))), as if buying shit wrapped in (((plastic))) from a store that shipped it across an entire country using fossil fuels isn't the very definition of wasteful.
>>525195087Diatomic earth and crushed eggshells also help, but it's not exactly cheap or applicable on a large scale.Also, be careful not to kill off aboriginal slimeys.
>>525193311I was about to comment that. It's always them. Every. Fucking. Time.
>>525195274Yeah that's wasteful too. Both can be true you niggerbrained fag.
>>525193244I've had enough, I'm planting orange trees everywhere.
>>525195458I'd rather have an entire population of wasteful gardeners than braindead jew cocksucking faggots
>>525195458so lets stop globalism and promote local businesses right
I will post it here because /x/ sucks dicks.> The most common form of FePO4 adopts the structure of α-quartz.
>>525195288Where I'm at, they all gotta die they shouldn't even be alive here, but in the greenhousethey do
the royal crown admitted in secret letters to cecil rhodes that they were going to popularize worthless green lawns in the USA in order to force the country to be dependent on other countries for food and to waste fresh waterjust fyi
>>525194277What are you planning to grow this year Ameribro?
>>525195458My point is that home gardening is NOT wasteful, you absolute moron. It is a hobby, it provides food, it gets you outside, you can recycle 100% of what you don't use. You are a big Ag shill, not a gardener.
>>525193244>2 posts by this ID
I grow ~200 pounds of tomatoes in my backyard every year and make home made sauce and the jews cannot stop me! :)I also grow several other herb and vegetable crops and the jews cannot stop me! :)
>>525193244JEWS.
>>525194323>>525195192I'm a soil biologist lmao. It's always nice posting about stuff you study for a living and then having 80IQ shitskins call you a retard and using gay sex analogies like always.
>>525195934You're a soiled biological, if anything.
>>525196034cringe
>>525195810Try making a reduction out of them. The laziest approach is to spread them on a sheet and giving them a blast in the oven, more elaborate recipes start with quartering, quick boil, strain through mesh to get rid of skins and seeds, slow reduction with quality olive oil into a brownish red lycopene heaven. This could take around four hours per batch but it's absolutely worth it.Finished product could be consumed raw with bread, or could be used as a basis for sauces and soups. For example, tomato soup with beets ...
>>525193980>topsoil infinitesimals lmao no
>Sea buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides) is a hardy, thorny shrub known for its vibrant orange berries and silvery-green leaves, rich in vitamins (A, C, E), antioxidants, and omega fatty acids, used in traditional medicine and food for skin, immune support, and digestion. >Native to Europe and Asia, these dioecious plants (separate male/female plants) thrive in harsh, sandy soils and produce tart, nutritious berries for teas, juices, and oils, with both fruit and seed oils prized for their therapeutic properties.>USDA Zones 3 through 8 (or even 2b to 8), tolerating extreme cold, drought, and poor soils, with a preference for full sun and well-drained conditions, making it adaptable to harsh climates including coastal areas. I'm very curious to try and plant this thingI'm in 4/5ait's cold hereOpinions?
>>525196118I do reduce it all good sir. Concentrated(ish) tomato sauce. Coarse filter all the sneeds and shit out. Add home grown basil, oregano, parsley. Add salt. Pressure can it. It's healthy and delicious and the jews STILL cannot stop me :)
>>525193244That's not surprising, its the same with the rural or small home movements. A city that produces a lot of pollution is still way better than creating a million small houses stretched out over a way larger space. Having one mass production that can be curtailed, made more efficient, or made more "green" will waste less then everyone doing their own bullshit.
>>525193244dang that's rough bro *gardens internally*
>Haskap (Blue Honeysuckle, Lonicera caerulea) is an extremely cold-hardy, deciduous shrub producing oblong, antioxidant-rich berries in early summer that taste like a mix of raspberry, blueberry, and currant, requiring two different varieties for cross-pollination. These easy-to-grow bushes prefer full sun, well-drained, moist soil with organic matter, reach 4-6 feet tall, and offer early spring flowers that tolerate frost, making them ideal for northern climates (USDA Zones 2-8). I got some of these, getting more in spring
>>525193244
>>525196388that grows wild here
>>525196431I meant "more concentrated than a bit". IDK what kind of chemistry magic happens there, but the taste and smell of a reduction with high viscosity is IMHO incomparable with less concentrated stuff.It takes several hours to finish and the temperature must be above 100C in later stages.I'd say that the reduction ratio has to be around 1:10 to get the "true" reduction.
>>525196881you have no idea how much of a poor selection there is here in northern north america if you're scavenging or just trying for a food forest
>>525194323See that's the fucked up thing. I work in vineyards and yes what you say is true. What pisses me off is Roundup is still used here as the most common herbicide when it's banned or hellivly regulated in 28 countries. But not us I fucking hate farming (been doing it for 25 years) I shouldn't be suprised there is a large lead smelter in my state and all the kids around it got elevated lead in their blood. They have to get tested twice a year for monitoring. One suggestion from the Goverment report was that all the kids might be sucking lead fishing weights because it couldn't be the lead smelter next-door
>Asparagus (Asparagus officinalis) is a long-lived, herbaceous perennial vegetable prized for its edible young shoots (spears) with a mild, grassy flavor, harvested in spring from a root crown that can produce for 20+ years. Available in green, white, and purple varieties, it grows from 3-5 foot tall, feathery ferns in summer, needs full sun, well-drained soil, and careful first-year establishment. It's prepared by steaming, roasting, or grilling and is rich in nutrients, making it a popular springtime delicacy. >Asparagus is a hardy perennial that grows well across most of the U.S., thriving in USDA Zones 3 to 10, though its best range is often cited as Zones 3-8 for ideal cold dormancy, with specific varieties suited for warmer climates like Zones 9-10
Food from small farms taste better and his fresher ergo it’s good.
>>525193921>>525193980no-till jihadists detected fuck off tranny zog shills
>Raspberry plants are perennial shrubs with perennial roots and biennial canes (stems), which grow one year and fruit the next (summer-bearing) or fruit on first-year canes (fall-bearing/everbearing), producing red, black, purple, or yellow aggregate fruits (drupelets) with a hollow core when picked. They need full sun, well-drained soil, and consistent moisture, spreading vigorously via suckers, requiring support and pruning to manage growth and maximize yield, offering sweet, nutritious berries rich in antioxidants. >Raspberries are versatile, growing in a wide range of USDA zones, generally from zone 3 to zone 10, but specific varieties thrive in different areas, with most preferring zones 4-8, requiring 6-8 hours of sun, and rich, well-drained soil for success. Choosing a variety suited for your zone is crucial, as some are better for cold winters (zones 3-6) while others, like low-chill types, suit warmer climates (zones 8-10).
>>525193244Omg you guys suck so bad. As if paying for the land and paying taxes isn't enough you have a homegrown food allotment limit?You can't eat without government permission?This is just a limit on how much you are allowed to do even for yourself outside the jewish merchant economy. You must buy the taxed salad from the taxed store that obtains it through a middleman merchant from the immigrant replacing you staffed commercial farm.
Joe Pinkstone coming up with any kind of shit he can to get pay per word for the month so he can enjoy his Subaru for 30 more days. He needs a good railing with a healthy overgrown cucumber.
>Peach trees (Prunus persica) are deciduous fruit trees in the rose family, known for showy spring flowers and velvety summer fruit, typically growing 10-25 feet tall with rounded crowns, requiring full sun, well-drained soil, and specific winter chilling hours for fruit production, with pruning vital for health and yield. They come in freestone (pit separates easily) and clingstone (pit clings) types, with varieties suited for different climates and sizes (dwarf to full). >Peach trees thrive in USDA Zones 4 through 9, but do best in the moderate climates of Zones 6, 7, and 8, requiring specific varieties for colder (Zone 4) or warmer (Zone 9-10) conditions, with Reliance and Contender being popular cold-hardy choices. Success depends on matching the tree's needs (like chill hours) to your local climate's minimum winter temperatures.
>>525197696Do the pawpaw next please.
>>525193244This makes no sense>concentrating urban housing with no green space creates a massive heat footprint>a sufficiently dense row of allotments could potentially be a carbon sink>less transport used, boosted fertilisers, pesticidesYeah nah sounds like evil commie bullshit again. Leftism = envrionmental destruction, but at the community end first
>>525197766>The pawpaw (Asimina triloba) is a small, native North American tree known for its large, tropical-looking leaves, unique dark purple flowers, and sweet, banana-mango flavored fruit, requiring at least two genetically different trees for pollination but offering delicious fruit and a host for the Zebra Swallowtail butterfly. It thrives in moist soils and partial shade, forming clonal thickets via root suckers, with leaves smelling like green peppers when crushed and turning yellow in fall. >Pawpaw trees thrive in USDA Hardiness Zones 5 through 9, but do best in the middle zones (5-8) across the Eastern/Midwestern US, requiring warm summers and cold winters for proper dormancy. While very cold-hardy (down to -20°F/-28°C), they need well-drained, slightly acidic soil, full sun (once established), and at least 150 frost-free days to ripen their unique fruit, making them adaptable but needing specific conditions.
>>525193921My fertilizer ? Chicken and rabbit mixed with shit i let composted.Skill and will issue.
>>525193244No.
>>525197898Thanks. I'd like to buy some saplings this year. I feel like fruit trees are often overlooked in home gardens.
>>525193244That's right and you can't shit more than once a week because one homesteader's shit is equal to 1000 cows shitting. I know because I read it online. On a real news organization website.
>Goumi (Elaeagnus multiflora) is a hardy, nitrogen-fixing shrub from Asia, known for its silvery-green foliage, fragrant spring flowers, and bright red, sweet-tart summer berries used in jams, offering vitamins A, C, E, and antioxidants. It grows 4-15 ft tall, tolerates poor soils, drought, and cold (Zones 4-9), thrives in sun to part shade, and benefits from a second plant for better yields. >Goumi berries (Elaeagnus multiflora) are hardy in USDA Zones 4-9, thriving in cold winters (down to -20°F) and tolerating heat, making them widely adaptable across North America, though some sources lean towards 4-8 or 5-9. They prefer well-drained soil, full to part sun, and are tough, drought-resistant plants that fix their own nitrogen. >>525197990I live where fruit trees should just straight up diegot our first peach last year, I'm not giving up
>>525197898Hazelnuts please. These are hardy and could produce good yields per plant and effort.
>>525198121going with european variety because yield and overall quality>The European Hazelnut (Corylus avellana) is a deciduous shrub or small tree grown for its sweet nuts, growing 10-26 feet tall, adaptable to various soils and sun/shade conditions, featuring ornamental male catkins in late winter and nuts in leafy husks that ripen in fall, requiring cross-pollination from another variety for heavy yields and known for its versatility in landscaping and edible gardens. >The European hazelnut (Corylus avellana) thrives in USDA hardiness zones 4 through 8, tolerating cold winters but preferring full sun to partial shade and moist, well-drained soil. For colder zones, American or hybrid varieties are more suitable, as European hazelnuts can be sensitive to very cold temperatures or diseases like Eastern Filbert Blight, but they're generally adaptable to various temperate climates.
Imagine giving a shit what your carbon footprint is.
>>525198121>>525198288
>>525193980This, it's totally conceivable that large scale industrial farms are way more efficient energetically speaking.The real question that no one in this thread is smart enough to ask is whether the food you grow yourself is healthier (almost certainly yes) and whether the extra carbon is a complete nothing burger especially when compared to the trillions of watt hours being invested in glorified chatbots at this very moment.In conclusion it's typical Jewish press: a relative truth that hides a bigger lie and distract the goyim from the problems that matter.
>>525193921>but the truth is that small scale farming does release a lot more nitrogen pollution than large scaleYes, one woman with a hoe growing carrots and potatoes produces more carbon emissions than a commercial agricultural operation, their fleets of trucks, the production and use of tens of thousands of pounds of pesticides and fungicides, the thousands of employees and contractors, the refrigeration operations, the fuels, transportation operations, and all the other industries necessary including research operations and propaganda. Makes perfect sense if you're a 2 year old and that's what your mom lord god government tells you.
>>525198288>>525198311Checked. Thank you.Have a companion planting table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companion_plants
>A potato plant (Solanum tuberosum) is an herbaceous annual with green stems, compound leaves, and sometimes white, pink, or purple flowers, producing edible tubers (potatoes) on underground stems (stolons), not roots, which store starch; these tubers grow from "eyes" (buds) and are the primary harvest, while the leafy parts and green berries are poisonous. The plant requires full sun, well-drained soil, and undergoes stages from sprouting to tuber bulking, with maturity signaled by the tops dying back, typically 90-120 days after planting.>Potatoes are adaptable and grow well across most USDA Hardiness Zones, generally from Zones 3 to 10, as a cool-season crop, but planting times vary significantly by region to match their need for cool soil (60-70°F) and to avoid summer heat that hinders tuber growth. In colder zones (3-6), plant in spring after the last frost for summer harvest; in warmer zones (7+), plant early spring or late summer for fall/winter crops, often requiring specific varieties or techniques like fall planting. Thanx mang I always forget about my companions and just spam plants, I'm out gotta sleep for my goy work
>>525198032Well fuck me running. I better become a malnourished and deranged vegan. That should make up for the pollution that CCP and Jeetlandia produces.
>>525198316No you must buy food through a merchant. It will be legal to grow in the third world, illegal and with no space in the urbanized first world. A globalist jew bank will approve what sources to avoid blood diamond/blood lettuce sources that could enrich enemies of the globalist bankers.Merchant middlemen will transport the food across oceans and the value of these importers imports will be traded on the stock market.
>>525193311fpbp & checked
youarethecarbontheywanttogetridof
>>525193244This is definitely, absolutely not designed to make you dependent on a food supply chain the government controls and not be independent. Definitely not that.
>>52519894370% water chad reporting in.
>>525197477tilling increases soil erosion and disrupts the microbial soil community. no till is objectively superior.
>>525197938chink and rabbit shit contains nitrogen same as chemical fertilizers and causes the exact same pollution issues. it's precisely people like (You) who assume because their nitrogen is "organic", that means they can just dump however much of it into their garden and it will all stay there and not end up in the rivers...you're exactly the problem that I was referring to nafiri bro
Bondi Accused of Epstein Files CoverUp After Blowing Off DeadlinesThe January 3 deadline for the Justice Department to explain its redactions for the produced documents came and went without a response, the same day the U.S. carried out its strike on Venezuela.https://www.thedailybeast.com/bondi-accused-of-epstein-files-cover-up-after-blowing-off-deadlines/
>>525198359I said nothing bout carbon emissions other than that I don't give a fuck about them. The issue I brought up had nothing to do with carbon and you clearly didn't even read my post. I hope you didn't anyway...if you did and still misunderstood it this badly, you must be a nigger.
>>525193980I can smell the jew from over here
>>525195114if anyone actually gives a fuck about the environment we would've nuked india in the 90s on Earth Day
>>525198943Exactly. e need 90% less of everybody.
>>525193244>not factoring in building the big ag factories, supply chains, transportation, retail overhead, warehousing, buying/selling operations, etc.
>>525193859and then turn the glucose back into co2 as part of respiration KEK its net fucking neutral retards >muh sequestriationgone as soon as the plant dies and rots, meanwhile the co2 generated by burning oil is permanent
>>525193244Greens are like watermelons:Green on the outside, RED on the inside
>>525196388It grows a bit slow and you'll need female and male bushes. Only females produce berries. Their taste is also too sour for many people. Make sure you can handle the taste before planting any.
>>525193244Dr. Patrick MooreGreenpeace founder (!) who LEFT GREENPEACE because they turned into man-hating fucking commieshttps://youtu.be/vb-52nlv0qs?t=15https://youtu.be/TjlmFr4FMvI?t=15
>>525194777science?experts?bang on!skin short?skin short!funny hat smol?funny hat smol!jooos are comical
>>525196388>Sea buckthornStuff grows here and it's awesomeeat with sugar or add it to teai love it
>>525200103The problem isn't overfertilization in small gardens, unless those provide runoff paths to water bodies. Local water table is a local problem.Aren't the biggest polluters monocultural fields with uncontrolled runoff and soil erosion? I've seen plenty of those here. Farmers in EU are heavily subsidized, cue to French anon. They don't care.one_man_study.png
>stop cow farts to save the planet, goy
>>525193980and what does it matter? why do some fat pedos who have a carbon footprint 4 orders of magnitude above yours get to demand that you should no longer to your own gardening because it's wasteful?
>>525200145Let’s see it was..>uwuu ur gonna have soil trucked to your house and buy a plastic shovel meant for 3 year olds instead of going to Lowes yourself uuuuuI can’t wait to watch your brains get stomped by every walk of life and faction possible faggot, you were meant to be drawn and quartered by everyone on all sides at once
>>525193244it's all a lie
>>525195087just go out at midnight with a flashlight and scissorscut them in halfleave themwithin days you will see birds in/around your garden you never saw beforeand they will keep the slugs in checkwork with nature, not against itnature knows no haste and it does not care about ours.compost is kingmake many white children!
>>525193951Literally this. I bought oil stocks and a V8 when the media here was crapping on about how we were gonna run out of oil soon a few years ago.I made money and gas is cheaper than it was then. Get fucked.
>>525193980the weekend warrior-planting will continue until the land redistribution improves
>>525200397>Greens are the problem>not Greenbergsngmi, shill
>>525200520>>525200772death to kikes obviously
>>525200533>The problem isn't overfertilization in small gardens, unless those provide runoff paths to water bodiesBro, EVERYTHING has a runoff path into water bodies. Unless your garden is at the bottom of an endorheic basin (in which case it would be utterly contaminated by salts), the water has to flow somewhere. It's just gravity.>Aren't the biggest polluters monocultural fields with uncontrolled runoff and soil erosion?No, the biggest polluters are small scale farms that use much less fertilizer and hence don't run the calculations about how much they actually need to put on...because it doesn't matter to them. It does matter to big farms where the fertilizer budget is a major % of their costs. They do run the calculations and soil tests, and make sure to never apply wasted nitrogen.
>>525200562Jesus you're so angry. And you can't respond to anything I actually did say and have to make up strawmen to flog instead. Is this how you argue with everyone? Just ignore what they say and convert it into something retarded in your own head, then mock them for saying the retarded then that was only in you head?
>>525193244notice the greenfags are always anti-nuclearcurious
>>525200614Anon, I ...My garden has a rivulet on it's borders. These fuckers can apparently breathe underwater. I used to spend hours with anonette picking those fuckers and binning them. WE HAD BARRELS.IT SMELLS like a Lovecraftian nightmare. They are slippery and EVERYWHERE.No.My patience has its limits.My garden is in 4th most restrictive protection zone out of five humanly possible, bordering on an endemic birb reservation. The noises some of the bigger raptors make during the day brings me back to WoW II and its griffin riders. Small ones are everywhere, I have swallows providing me with phosphorus all over my walls, flying lizards with no scientific names yet and so on. And yet, NONE of those fuckers will come to a smelling distance of those slimy fuckers, NOT ONE.Fuck them, too. I breed cats now.
>>525193244>humans cause caborn >remove human >no more unnecessary carbon Solved.
>>525194277>wastefulWhat's wasteful is spending TRILLIONS globally to feed niggers mudslimes and jeets who will never work enough to pay off one fucking meal.
>>525193244climate cultists can't stop jumping sharks
>>525193244they managed to erase Roman and Medieval warming periods from history, 1984 stylefor example, their famous "Hockey puck graph" hoax
>>525195934>I'm an expert goyim>now stop growing your own food, buy the toxic factory farmed, factory processed, nutritionally dead slop and be quietSuck start a musket you fucking retard.
>>525200963you're a fucking death cultliterally
>>525201017never said any of those things and wouldn't say them. Why can't you shitskins ever argue against what is said? Why do you have to make up things that were not said to argue against?
glaciers melt, ancient Roman roads are found beneath.Did Romans burn too much oil? kek
>>525193244>homegrown>unconventional
>>525196388Just be careful where you are, some places with overzealous wildlife&game officers might consider planting a bunch of berry bushes as baiting. I knew a guy who got a bunch of shit(eventually got the baiting fines dropped by the court) because he was growing wild blueberries and cultivating new growths from their seeds.
>>525200957cut them with scissors and leave them
>>525193244I’ve seen this concept touted by the press before.Just a reminder that International Jew loathes the very idea of resilience and self-sufficiency.They’d rather us use up carbon in consuming goyslop and watching niggerball than gardening. Gathering your own manure, growing your own spuds and saving your own seeds pretty much make jewflation irrelevant.
>>525193244allowing any retards to demonize carbon dioxide is the biggest transgression against the average person in the past two hundred years. i'm getting to the point where these people should have to stop producing carbon dioxide if they're so concerned about it
>>525201210compost is the keyset up a proper composting system and you will never buy any fertilizer and suchand your plants will grow like you would not believehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_Associationjooos are comical
>>525193980>Getting small lots of topsoil trucked to their house every season or twoSo target those retards, who are entirely in the minority because that's expensive as fuck.
>>525195114Any carbon I reduce will be canceled out x100 by globohomo corporations and thirdies flooding into my country, what's the point?
>>525200823That sounds reasonable, thank you.Yet, if I may nitpick - I thought that nitrogen compounds aren't very stable and given the time necessary for the contamination to propagate through all layers to surface again, or to a running water (maybe excepting underground rivers), these wouldn't pose a problem anymore. Also, agricultural nitros are a food to quite a lot of things in layers close to a surface; IDK about microbiota below those, though.And I still maintain that soil erosion and associated runoff is a problem. Do you have numbers on this issue, and, is there a consensus? We have some NGOs here pushing for lessening the erosion, retaining water etc. so I'm a bit suspicious although this does sound like a good thing.>>525201164Okay, fine.I can't kill them. I simply can't. I used to dump said barrels with living fuckers to neighboring monofields because I couldn't bring myself to kill them manually.I will not torture thousands of living beings. Imagine killing jews like that. You'll go crazy sooner or later.
>>525200823>small farms>doesnt matterGet a load of this retard, small farms are the ones that have to track how much they use the most down to the micron. They don't have the economy of scale to afford blindly throwing down fertilizer or spraying like the corporate megafarms do. You fucking stupid cunt.
>>525200869What is your point? People should stop growing veg in the garden because they produce nitrogen and buy stuff?
>>525201065>I didn't sayYou implied it, you duplicious little coping jewish faggot.
>>525201599I mean depends what they're farming. Crop farms yeah. Cattle they are pretty fucked with effluent run off though.
>>525201487>I thought that nitrogen compounds aren't very stableDepends on the compound. The reason nitrogen is the limiting element for land plants is because the nitrogen-nitrogen bond is so strong and difficult to break. This leads to nitrogen piling up in the atmosphere where plants can't use it. As for the rest of what you say, preventing erosion and increasing organics (esp. charcoal) in the soil helps reduce nitrogen runoff for sure, yeah. But it's better just not to put more on than the plants can use to begin with. A lot of small organic farmers dump compost and manure everywhere because why not? This isn't good. Big agribusiness evil farms don't do this because their fertilizer costs are so huge and hence they're super scientific and precise. This is my main point.
>>525201631>You implied itno I didn't at all though>you duplicious little coping jewish faggotwhy are you seething so fucking hard just because of some argument I made about nitrogen usage? it's so weird how it completely enraged you and now you're seething at things I never said or implied at all.
>>525193921i’ve been gardening for 25 years, mate, and you have no fucking idea what the fuck you are talking about
>>525193980>I’m a window-licking mouth-breathing retard so everyone else must be as well!The lowest common denominator, and the reason we have speed limits, everybody.
>>525193244lets just destroy india and china instead they pollute more than anyone
Drink your H.D.P.
>>525201721You don't even understand what I said at all wog. How often do you test the nitrogen levels in your garden soil?
>>525195600Diabolically underrated. Fuck the world is so fake, gay, and retarded now, man.
>>525193980>you can just transport soil and buy tools>ONLY WE CAN DO THAT YOU PIECE OF SHIT>THEN WE TRUCK THE GOODS TO FACTORIES AND TRUCK THEM TO STORES AND YOU DRIVE YOUR TRUCK TO GET THE GOODS>FUCK YOU REEEEEEEEhmm
>>525195622source or muH seKreT LattErz go in the draw with the pedo files in 2 more weeks
>>525201657> N oxidation statesI need to look this up, my chemistry is rusty. My assumption was that the compounds tasty for plants are less stable and tasty for water plants as well, but I forgot that microbes are usually the other way around, and that no matter what compound gets into waters, it will influence it.> small farmsThe problem with that is the obvious solution which is already being implemented, namely destruction of small enterprises and their conglomeration into de facto horizontal monopolies.I would prefer some eugenic culling instead.> what was covidNot like that ...
>>525193921On no, not the thing that already makes up 70% of the atmosphere! Don't release any of that into the environment!
lmao
>>525194277This is just you masturbating into your own mouth in a public space about your shitty veggie garden, please stfu and get some real achievements.
>>525193921>When you're growing a small area, you don't need much fertilizertrvke
>>525201293If I understand the OP correctly it's about those retards that try to emulate the Charles Dowding "no-dig" method whom I consider to be a fraud.These people buy in a shit ton of compost and topsoil from the store and layer it over cardboard, the idea being that this suppresses all the weeds, thereby freeing the gardener from the need to dig. Balderdash of course, what happens when you get a huge weed with a big fuck-off tap root poking through? Are they just going to no-dig it way? And what about the expense? This works economocially only if you have access to a steady nearby supply of compost/topsoil/manure etc.The whole ethos of gardening is to cultivate the soil by digging it over and weeding it and introducing well-rotted manure thereby improving the soil thereby keeping you strong and healthy.
They must be getting rather desperate to keep the climate cult going if they have resorted to *this* claim.
>>525202079Nitrogen causes terrible problems and is the main reason why Chinese rivers are so fish-free, not the industrial pollution. Sorry you're too low iq to understand this Mohammed.>>525202199But this is exactly what leads small scale farmers to overfertilize, because their fertilizer budget is so small and hence adding "a little extra" costs them basically nothing...so that's what they do.
>>525202229>what happens when you get a huge weed with a big fuck-off tap root poking through?just tear it out obviously...
>>525193921What in retardation are you trying to communicate? Btw most people here are not retarded, but you are still welcome to contribute, we just may choose to ignore you. Btw congrats on solving the captcha!
>>525202485>Btw most people here are not retardedyou definitely are though memeflag, and so angry with zero argument against what was said
>>525201869This is the best time. I couldn't pick a better one, egotistically speaking.Most of previously unavailable sources are here, accessible on a small box which just fits in my hands. We can instantly talk together over mountains and oceans, casually.Besides, the pressure must increase before the retard chamber explodes.
>>525200050The poster said dig, not till.Occasional shallow disturbance e.g. initial bed preparation, removing compaction with a fork and covering over with a mulch is not the same as repeated mechanical tillage, the kind that caused the dust bowl.What you're talkoing about (and conflating) is the large-scale mechanized plowing of native prairie, deeply, repeatedly and over large areas. The two are just not comparable.
>>525200993dude (((they))) have literally banned the depiction of the swastika, which IS a symbol representing the big dipper and it’s position is relative to what season it is, which was how ancient peoples used to track growing seasons.A literal historic sign of FERTILITY originating out of the historically referenced FERTILE CRESCENT is a symbol for “hate speech”. I sincerely hope that there are anons who are recording all of this communist bullshit & backwards jewish rhetoric in the same way Herodotus did The Histories so future historians & intellectuals have a point of reference for just how much of a fucking waking nightmare life under communism, and by extension with JEWS, really is, where up is actually down and don’t trust what you see with your eyes only trust what your government jews tell you!For real, it almost feels like a moralobligation to record all these motherfuckers have done since the 1900s, throw it into a book, and get it out into the wild before they burn the entire world down along with their third temple
>>525202671you're right. I don't disagree with what you said.
>>525193244[*] This article was sponsored by by the Food & Drink Association and te Food Marketing Board.
>>525201095>oopsies!>how did that get there!?>silly anon, that’s a totally NORMAL geological formation!>our (((PANEL OF EXPERTS))) all agree!>what’s wrong, you don’t trust the science?>what are you, an anti-semite!?
>>525193859So?
>>525193244>than those grown conventionally>grown conventionally
>>525202810We need an Unconventional Nonproliferation Treaty.
>>525202810What's your problem with it? Bot?
>>525202810conventionally just means under control of the jooo.so a $1 head of cabbage becomes a$5 head of cabbage and you are non the wiser
>>525202810i just recently got a large pig from a local farmer, pasture raised, had it cut, wrapped and frozenthe whole operation was done through barterfantastic meat at a fantastic pricefunny how much cheaper and better it is without having jooos involved.very interestingjooos are comicalare they really necessary to have around?
>>525194377Typical Jewish lies. Stuff that goes off into a landfill to release methane gas (an extremely potent greenhouse gas) is instead repurposed to fertilize plants. They don't know shit about growing food, they only care about how much profit they can squeeze out of eaters by raising prices another 25% at the grocery store.
>>525193921>>525193980This is false because the amount of power they use, the pollution from transportation of goods, and resources like water that are overused all add up to be way worse. Try again, kike.
>>525200263Racist
>>525193311Seriously why are jews so fucking miserable? It's like they live in constant depression
>>525193244Carbon taxes. Immediately!
>>525202260They're desperate because everyone with an IQ over 100 noticed these fucking smarmy faggots hop on individual private jets, then charter an SUV/limo to drive them from the airport to their hotel, then from their hotel to the climate confrence, then private jet back and limo home again.
>>525202285>why chinese rivers are fish freethat's not the only reason, that whole famine thing caused by mao left the chinese to completely demolish their wildlife so they wouldn't starve.
>>525193244Jajaja, sure buddy my cabbage is way worse than the combine polution of the chinks and pajeets.Your next line is: "Cows are responsible for 90% of CO2 emissions"
>>525194277>who also recognizes how wasteful and thoughtless the overwhelming majority of casual hobbyist gardeners areyou're right. When I see how my dad grows strawberries I literally want to kill myself.>be dad>use roundup to get rid of all the weeds>till the patch>dump a bag of fertilizer and work it in >put strawberry plants in >no cover crop>no companion plants >in summer spray it with water every day because the soil is brown, dry, infertile dirt that doesn't hold water. >be me >try to explain to him he needs to sustain the bacteria and fungi in the soil and create a healthy balance and then he doesn't need to spray it with water all the time nor dump a bunch of chemicals on the patch>he doesn't listen, tells me to fuck off>fuckthisplanet.jpg
i don't see how its that my problemif some dumb nigger jew wants to stop me from growing my own food i will make sure he will meet his grandfather in the oven
>>525193244https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/general-information/initiatives-and-highlighted-programs/peoples-garden/registration-formRegister that assualt garden!
>>525193244>CO2 is the... LE BAD!!I thought that's what plants crave?I'm honestly more concerned about the ecological toxicity with biohazards, especially those pollutants with lingering radiation. Our aquatic environment has been impacted the most, I think these "environmentalists" should be joining the actual researchers and activists for that. So much more oceanspace is going to be too toxic for life in the upcoming years.
>>525193921Nitrogen pollution comes from killing plants with roundup and farming in mass, when the plants die, the nitrogen is released.
>>525193244It's the middle of the winter, faggot. By the time the soil thaws I've lost the motivation given by your screenshot to plant anything
I am sure the stuff grown in slash and burned former rainforest, farmed with diesel equipment, shipped across the sea and driven by semi truck to the supermarket before only some is sold prior to going bad and being thrown away, is better for the planet than my hand tools and fertilizer garden.
Literally everything that can be burned contains carbonEvery single piece of dust contributes to a carbon variableThis science is a joke
>>525193921Good posts, anonsDefective little shits seething
>>525202810Tell me more about these newfangled "backyard gardens"
>>525204515Can't let goyim have anything nice.Seriously a cursed people. The more I learn about jews, the more I think jews killing Jesus, while yelling curse us and all our children, really did blood curse them.
>>525193980Chill the fuck down Moshe, some greenery in the city won't kill you.
>>525193244>Should governments ban gardening to reduce carbon emissions?yes, got to make room in the co2 budget for the digital stasi data centres they're building everywhere that need huge amounts of electricity to operate.
>>525201338MEDS
>>525200145I understood perfectly. You asserted a small family farm produced more nitrogen pollution than a large corporate agricultural operation. That's like saying 5 cows fart more than 500. Who's the negro now?
>>525200823i have a garden and some lawn. i do soil tests. i buy ammonium sulfate fertilizer from agriculture en gros for less than 1,- per kilo. i do the math. i weigh the exact amount needed per area and apply a little less by hand. soil test after season show balanced ph. never needed to use lime so far. small farmers around do the same. large corpo farmers overdo it with everything to grow elephant grass for alcohol production, instead of food. fuck em.
>>525210150Jews are first murderers and then liars. They truly are the offspring of Satan.
>>525193244The sad thing is, women (who ultimately mean well) who have dedicated their life to eco-friendly hobbies such as gardening because 10 years ago the media told them it was a noble activity to dedicate their time towards, will read this article and completely give it up.>>525193980Why don't you jewish shills ever look at China and India and put the blame on them, the two biggest polluters in the world, rather than put the blame on the individual and the cows?
>>525194277You are a faggot who never had his hands in dirt in your pathetic life.
>>525193980It's sort of sad that reasonable and correct posts with a funny joke (weekend warrior gardeners my sides) get shit on by bots so much these days. The jeet infestation is pretty bad.
>>525210916>it's reasonable to allow gardening solely become the domain of big corporate jews who hate people like us simply because your comment made me laugh
>>525193921>nitrogen pollutionnot even the topic of the threadnor does it even meme-contribute to le climate change
>>525202325Dig the fucker out obviously.
>>525195274>shipped it across an entire country using fossil fuelsstop calling hydrocarbons this disgusting slur
>>525200993that was hilarious when Michael Mann got called the Jerry Sandusky of climate sciencehe and his pals most certainly molested the dataand somehow didnt have to show in court that he molested the data, and still won the defamation caseeven though Steve Mcintyre, a professional statistician, showed how much of an abuse of statistics Mann's methods were and noted that as of 2018 or so, the IPCC still had not employed a single professional statistician in their effortswhich pretty much tells you the whole story when their meme relies heavily on statistical manipulations and a pro tells them its utter and complete bullshit they've procured.
>>525193244HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK EVER! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>525193244>Should governments ban gardening to reduce carbon emissions?most definitely.this reduces thr demand for capitalist consumption.thr excuse for vanning, taxing it is irrelevant. it can be anything.bad for environment sounds good to me.producing your own food is communism! it must be banned for sure.
>>525200395>iTs nEt nUetRaLIt's just CO2 that was in circulation trapped in the ground we are just returning to mean.
When gardening becomes controversial you're government wants you dead.
>>525193921>>525193980This sentence is false.
>>525193980seppuku yourself right fucking now
>>525193244>starve to save the planet
>you vil suffocate & you vil be happy
>>525201438
>>525201438also ai slop farms consume exorbitant amounts of electricity & water & environmentalists dont raise their voices.
>>525193244>the jew fears the autark private garden owner.
>>525193980>in absolute terms it’s nothing Then shut the fuck up, shill.
>>525193244US government already has legal authority to regulate the tomatoes you grow in your backyard. Well settled Supreme Kike Court precedent. Can’t store too much seed from last year’s crop either lmfao
>>525193244>plants eat CO2>more plants means more CO2 emissions Nigga what?
>>525198032>sorry goy, turns out all breathing things in general are bad for the climate.
>>525193244disingenuous carbon accounting should be punishable with jail time
>>525200520
Learn to garden or starve
>>525201759Many such cases
Planned famine is comingThe Masonic Mormons know. They are required to keep 6 months of backup storable food.
>>525193244Thats the most jewish post I have seen this year
>>525193244YOU WILL GROW NOTHINGAND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
>>525193244plants eat carbon and create oxygen. i dont get it.without plants we all suffocate the first plant in the chain is algae in water.so we have a way to breathe without oxygen i dont know of? when is this new biotech coming? will there be a safe and effective™ vaccine for this?i cant help but ask myself these retarded questions!
>>525217425>Masons knowMasons know famine is coming because they are the planners. Why is it called "Mason Jar"? The Great Famine will be 9 years long. It will be epic. Winter is coming.
>>525217425yeah lets go back to living like a medieval farmer just with plastic bottle n shiet. i am sure the jews are shaking in fear over the goy giving up on modern life & returning to some early type of primitive civilization.
>>525215801weird, i don't remember voting for this witch
>>525216602I couldn't be bothered to read OPs unarchived article, but> During periods of active growth and ample sunlight, photosynthesis rates typically exceed respiration, leading to a net uptake of carbon dioxide. At night or in low light, respiration continues, resulting in net carbon dioxide release.They are trying to block the sun, anon.The plants will suffocate us with their breath, I've seen it in Akashic records.
>>525217507And it's only the 6th of January.
>>525193244>STOP GARDENINGfrom my cold dead hands
>>525193244Next up : breathing is destroying the climate!
>>525217751shouldn't be dismissed so easily. our greatgrandparents used to do this as well, which made them close to independent of jewish food monopoly and delivery chain. better to have a few glasses of strawberries, cherries, pears and peach in your cellar, neatly organized in shelves, next to the horde of potatos that would last the whole winter and some. besides, the canning days used to be a great gathering of family, a productive party if you will.
>>525217667Green ideology is a jewish/communist tool to destory plant. This niggers are so open about it and they don't want to hear anything about how stupid their points are... they just want you to suffer.
>>525218162>AI, are we in a 100,000 year warm peak cycle>No, we're not, humans did this, there's evidence that humans have changed the global cycle>Source?>...>well theoretically
>>525217843daddy schwab was ousted from the WEF, only to immediately sue for millions in 'damage'. he's now begging to be let back and wants to be honorary president. i doubt, his daugter is going to wield much power. kikes alway have a big mouth. one shouldn't listen much, but always have a large club at hand.
>>525218042we live in times of great nations, communities of dozens or hundreds of millions of people, we dont go back to some ancient lifestyle but live according to modern standards. further the negroes with the help of zog military will eventually overrun any free farm no matter how many firearms they have. we need nationwide solutions not atomization & hardcore individualism. being self-reliant & capable of sustaining oneself, repar shit, grow ones own foor & educate ones children is all well & good but not a solution. you think any government was ever subdued by some preppers?
>>525218491yea exactly...
>>525218042varg too isnt opposed by the left or the jews because he is a bad rolemodel, just checking out of society letting the jews have it all out of spite or whatever. he lives such frugal lifestyle & wants to do everything himself & not rely too much on modenr civilization. the establishment has nothing at all against him & the right admiring his path of life.
>>525193980Anon I neglect my garden and still get high yields. I put a little work in in spring, after that I don't do shit. Turns out the tomatoes take care of themselves.
>>525218616you're right. though people around where i live all produce some food in their backgraden, be it tomatos, cucumbers or hazelnuts. the smaller farmers around sell their stuff and it builds community buying there. obviously, a garden isn't helping in overthrowing governments. not having one wouldn't help either. when supply chains collapse people will swarm out to the countryside and beg for potatos. (hamsterfahrt) the niggers wouldn't even find the farms.
>>525219046sure nothing wrong with community building excercise.>deutsches Bauern- und Soldatentum statt judeo-anglo-amerikanishes Händlertum.'In the first place, too much importance cannot be attached to the necessity for adopting a policy which will make it possible to maintain a, healthy farmer class as the basis of the national community. Many of our present evils have their origin exclusively in the disproportion between the urban and rural portions of the population. A solid stock of small and medium farmers have at all times been the best protection which a nation could have against the social diseases that are prevalent to-day. Moreover, that is the only solution which guarantees the daily bread of a nation within the framework of its domestic national economy.'Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition_'Schon die Möglichkeit der Erhaltung eines gesunden Bauernstandes als Fundament der gesamten Nation kann niemals hoch genug eingeschätzt werden. Viele unserer heutigen Leiden sind nur die Folge des ungesunden Verhältnisses zwischen Land- und Stadtvolk. Ein fester Stock kleiner und mittlerer Bauern war noch zu allen Zeiten der beste Schutz gegen soziale Erkrankungen, wie wir sie heute besitzen. Dies ist aber auch die einzige Lösung, die eine Nation das tägliche Brot im inneren Kreislauf einer Wirtschaft finden läßt.'Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26
>>525193244Any time the (((MSM))) says something is bad, you can be sure the opposite is true. I think I'll take up home gardening.
>>525217751the source of jewish power is their control over money, which is the creation of debtjews feed off the creation and service of debt to allow them to live on the backs of those who workpaying down debt destroys their griftand without the grift, they cannot live on the backs of othersthey are financial parasitesand they are hostile to any attempt to reform money and banking
>>525219465absolutely. city people have forgotten about the origin of their food and don't care about the insane transportation involved. it's sure nice to have pears in supermarket in january. it's even nicer having my neighbour hand me buckets of apples from his four trees. i'll help him with his work and pass chili and hazelnuts to all my neighbours. potatos from a nearby farm will remain edible for the whole winter. and as the aggs from the same farmer they are cheaper than the jew's and taste better. no wonder they're trying to destroy this. it won't work.
>>525193244remember when gardening was seen as a leftist thing, then in recent years people on the right started embracing itnow we have this
