>at least half a million Russians dead>30% of Russian oil refineries have been destroyed by Ukrainian drones>sanctions left and right >heavy loses of specialized elite units and brigades>heavy loses of military equipment >NATO is now expanding more than ever>forced to import pajeets to Russia to make up for the heavy losses in the warSeriously, this sounds like the worst possible military outcome and what has Russia gained? All of this for gaining a few oblasts and destroyed villages that make up less that 1% of the total territory in Russia
>>525232781The entire world sucked his dick for so long, he ended up believing all that crap about le based and brilliant Putin playing 5D chess
>>525233536I think it was more of the fact that there hadn't been a war that big in Europe after WW2 and many people thought that Russia would steamroll Ukraine in a matter of weeks
>>525232781Looks like it, somehow he still remains in power
It's not like he had a choice. His mistake was waiting too long and believing (((Western))) partners instead of rooting the cancer as soon as it surfaced.He's too soft and passive. He cares too much about the West's reaction and approval while those vultures are just circling around the country, eager for spoils.
>>525232781How does one even rate it though? Like, theoretically russia had resources to be a super power but because they are russians, the results will always be shit – and if we consider things with that limitation in mind, it was really a nothingburger since the country nor the people never really had a future in the first place. A million people for no result looks bad, a million of russians for no result, is just w/e, they since would just drink themselves to death in a few more years.Something like US invasion of Afghanistan was a much bigger L, not because of the costs for them but because actually capable people spent lots of time and resources to accomplish nothing.
>>525232781>Was invading Ukrainewrong statementRussia has very rational safety needs against NATO expansion and 10 years Russia was talking trying to avoid violence and war for their own survival, 10 Years diplomatic talks failed. agreement after WW2 was broken 5 times by the west or NATO all red lines was broken by the predatory west actions. > Was invading Ukrainewas Russians survival necessity and they waited too long That is Russian position. You reject to listen recognize and then get in war and pretend being surprised..Ukraine is corrupt shit hole infected by jew rats and foreign interest used, that situation to start war. https://youtu.be/Yx-6-9oWxk4
>>525233862His reputation as a competent leader and Russia's reputation has been completely destroyed
>>525234011>launches a SMO that aims to be a swift and precise military operation to remove the pro west Ukrainian goverment>completely fails at taking Kiev>is now forced into a war of attrition that will cost hundreds of billions of dollars and millions of lives lostDid he not think this was a possibility?
>>525232781>Was invading Ukraine the worst military blunder of the last 100 years?You already took a side, why? Because you accepted illusion of duality suggested by jew rats1) accept illusion of duality2) pick a side3) step a side and fall Ha ha ha Jews won and you lost again for the same trick 'Goyim are dumb animals, if we don't use them some one else will , because they so dumb, that it just stupid to miss opportunity to not take advantage of them...' are Jews right?
>>525234369Probably not. And if anyone would've suggested that to him, they would get defenestrated or at least lose their standing in the inner circle. It's how dictatorships always end up fucking themselves,
>>525234548Makes sense
>>525232781
>>525232781I'M GONNA NOOOOOK OOK OOK
>>525234369Like I said he should have blitzkrieged that shithole in 2013 or whenever that shit started instead of waiting forever, giving the (((West))) time to pump oinkraine with gear and intelligence.
>>525234038Made up nonsense again
>>525234723You're totally right and honestly this is what I dont understand at all
>>525234011stfu schyzzo
>>525234723>>525234962He tried lol. But while UA army was shit at that time and very reliant on volunteers, the russian one was in a very dire state too, so it'd likely lead to the same result.Like jeez, guys. Check out their performance in Chechnya before.
>>525232781I'd say so
>>525233536Nigga got to uppity
>>525232781rent free
>>525235577Keep coping bro
>>525232781He took the land he neededUkraine is basically denazified and demilitarised considering their population is basically halved by now48 million ----> 28 million just in 3 years Give it two more years and Ukraine will be Baltic tier "threat"
>>525232781>Got what he wanted>Exposed NAFO for the paper tiger that it isI don't see the issue
>>525235846>He took the land he neededAnd all of the occupied territory accounts for less than 1% of total Russian territory. Was it worth it considering the astronomically high losses?
>>525234809Gorby ain't shit, he would say what ever you want for couple of bucks
>>525235767You live in a mostly peaceful county on the other side of the earth. Why do you invest your feelings in this matter? Even europeans did not give a flying fuck about Ukraina until MSM made it the new covid. It is literally a local conflict in a backwater of europe that would have been over years ago had not eu-leaders decided to start laundering money through it. Russia is my neighbour country and I never think about Putin. This conflict does not even affect you, but you still care. I lost my access to cheap cigarettes, vodka and hookers because of it and I still do not give a fuck.
>>525234066>reputation has been completely destroyedand you have that opinion based on what? BRICS gain power, dollar fall , USA dominance fall .... Look. there is 33 ways to get Russian bear out from den. Problem is no one knows even 1 way to put bear back. You cam blah blah as much as you will, but It was wrong move to expand NATO territory against signed agreement. NATO has capacity to produce ammunition in ½ year as much as Russians actually shoot in 2 weeks on Ukrainian front line. USA has no industry to sustain military action longer then few weeks (col Douglas Macgregor) At this point, you sound like a barking puppy ... Nafo siters cock sucking degenerates with broken human dignity talking about reputation. In Russia family values are still preserved, Faggots forced to do their business behind closed doors. KYS faggot
>>525234692https://youtu.be/MkB0n8tk-FAFear with Nuclear Weapons
>>525232781Yes. He gains some meagre territory and in exchange he strengthened NATO, turned Europe against Russia, wrecked Russia's economy and turned it into a Chinese vassal.
>>525236035>fails to conquer Ukraine for 4 years>Somehow NATO is the paper tiger
>>525236146It doesn't really affect me directly but seeing all of those videos of Ukrainians and Russians dying in a ditch due to artillery or drones truly makes me feel sad and I wish this war had never occurred to be honest, it feels completely pointless at the end of the day and I'm sure that many Ukrainians and Russians feel that way as well
>>525236725Russians and ukrainans alike have always been considered evil and corrupt people in europa, so no loss really. The fact that both sides thinks posting gore online gives them sympathy just proves this.
>>525232781>>at least half a million Russians dead>>30% of Russian oil refineries have been destroyed by Ukrainian drones>>sanctions left and right>>heavy loses of specialized elite units and brigades>>heavy loses of military equipment>>NATO is now expanding more than ever>>forced to import pajeets to Russia to make up for the heavy losses in the warAll of that exposes the shortcomings of the established systems and forces a correction, as well as jumpstarting the war economy and industriaj development. All of the above is a workout that's going to help developing a more robust economy, adapt the military and identify the inefficiencies. Every burning refinery is syphoning the money from the big oil economy into the construction sector to fix the structures, heavy industry to replace the machinery and technology to develop the jammers and AA systems. War is great and we need more of it. The only thing that concerns me is that one day it could end.
>>525236975>The fact that both sides thinks posting gore online gives them sympathy just proves this.Most of those people posting those videos are mentally ill people who see the world as an avengers movie or soccer game where its us vs them instead of seeing the nuance and suffering of all parties involved. Wouldnt be surprised if most of those arent even Russian or Ukrainian
>>525237205>War is great and we need more of it. The only thing that concerns me is that one day it could end.why arent you fighting in the front then? You're posting tranime and playing video games from the comfort of your home and yet you have the chutzpah of saying that war is great
>>525237587My job is to develop certain specialized equipment for certain people to do certain things. I'm doing my part for my country, and the country pays me for it.
>>525237868You think war is great because you're benefiting from it without having to risk your life while your countrymen die in the hundreds of thousands.
>>525236619>fails to conquer Ukraine for 4 yearsUkraine do not exist any more, it lives on West donations. Ukraine can not sustain their own civilian people. They lost more then 2/3 population that will never come back. Military suck last West worlds resources that are not enough to win war and Local Ukrainian Jew rats steal of what they have got. Russia have no objective to concur and they don't lacking territory. Russia successfully destroy military power with hostile ideology. In a boxing ring is not about territory, neither is in Ukraine. But when military fall, then all territory will be accessible. NATO + USA are already 100% evolved, they just using Ukrainians as a meat and Russia stand strong progressing on all front line recapturing 1 - 2 villages with Russian names, a day. Russians taking their old territory back and local people already voted their democratic will to be with Russia because majority of them are Russians. People was prosecuted for speaking mother language and practicing religion.
>>525232781yes.the SMO has failed completely! - Strelkov thr hero of Novorossia.Putin is.a Jewhttps://strawpoll.com/e7ZJablGMg3
I think people are going to overthrow him. Millions of young men dying for what? He wants to bring back the USSR?
Even if any of that was true, the alternative - NATO nukes inches away from Russia's border - would have been much worse.
yes with so many drunk russians dead putin now can replace them with hard working indians
>>525233536ThisHe was 100% surrounded by yes men and genuinely thought he was some super power Well to be honest they did fool all of us but it doesn't matter now. It's literally a catastrophe for Russia and now NATO is getting stronger than ever
>>525238080>You thinkYou have awareness only about you think by yourself not other people Kike, you driving smear propaganda, do you? Slava = glory Slavic people = glorious white people Costa Rica = shit skin color monkeys. No pol flag = jew shill or glowing nigger
its going to end with russia collapsing isn't it
>>525236070It's only a loss if u think about it as part of wider russia-nato conflict.Because in terms of russo-ukrainian war Russia actually increased population because of Ukrainian refugees, got land bridge with Crimea, some resource-rich land and basically castrated Ukraine making it demographics unsustainable.
>>525238080A lot of deaths were caused by the boneheaded command being unable to adapt to the new modern threats, mainly drones and precision weapons. The military needs the experience to be prepared for those threats in the future, to expose the corruption and identify the inefficient retards. If we don't get the practice fighting a small war, then the next big war is going to be a disaster.
>>525238588>He wants to bring back the USSR?The Russian Empire
>>525238588>Millions of young men dying for what? for their national home land survival >He wants to bring back the USSR?'Those who condemn USSR have no heart , but those who want to restore it, have no brain.' - PutinYou fucking cunt, have by internet access to actually listen by your self directly as a first witness, men talking from him self, but still create delusional false opinions why? Get brain washed by Jewish mass media , that create conflict.
>>525232781Nobody cares about your Putin fanfiction you literal troon
>>525236035>NATO is a paper tiger>SMO takes so long because we're fighting against NATO
>>525232781>at least half a million Russians dead Drunks and criminals.>30% of Russian oil refineries have been destroyed by Ukrainian dronesNo more dutch disease>sanctions left and rightNo more jew influence>heavy loses of specialized elite units and brigadesNew units are trained for modern warfare>heavy loses of military equipmentProved to be outdated and better equpment for modern warfare is being developed>NATO is now expanding more than everBolsters domestic unity>>forced to import pajeets to Russia to make up for the heavy losses in the war Going to offset the muzzie influenceYou see losing is a state of mind.
>>525239638This, cant wait for wave of kys retards after ruskies get what they wanted while usa and china bleed themselves.
>>525238819I don't see them winning honestlythey are hurting too much. Ukraine just won't die somehow
>>525232781It's going fine. Slow & steady.
>>525239088My ancestors came from Prussia. Bring that back.
>>525238819I see Estonia collapsing and falling down right to Russians laps asking for bread.Europe is finished collapsing. Trade economical ties with Russia are broken . What Estonians produce to survive? What you can sale? Buy piglets and plant potato field to feed your family - is that your future? Naturally you will be dependent on Russian market which is actually BRICS or global south
>>525236619>fails to do the thing thy didn't set out to do in the first placeoh no that sucks
>>525232781Depends on POV. If you haven't noticed europe is in a kind of meme situation economically ever since the war began. She kind of fucked over 400 million europeans. Is that a win from kremlins POV? Who knows. US going in and napping Maduro. Would it have happened if russia didn't invade ukraine? Thinks trickle and it is impossible for humans to calculate determinism, but it is real, it matters. Would israel have had bombed lebanon, syria and iran? Nobody knows. What we can say is that debating "was it worth it" is midwit tier.
>>525241099They failed at doing the swift SMO and got dragged into an attrition war that has lasted half a decade and doesnt seem to stop anytime soon.Was that part of the plan?
>>525232781banan told me to do it
>>525233786>many people thought that Russia would steamroll Ukraine in a matter of weeksI certainly did, but had the self-confidence to admit I was wrong. /chug/ is full of copers incapable of doing similarly.
He fucked up thinking US wouldn't help Ukraine. Anyone thinking Ukraine held off the Russians through their own devices is retarded and Jewish.
>>525235846>Give it two more years and Ukraine will be Baltic tier "threat"Ukraine was never a "threat". Nobody has threatened Russia since they got nooks. Stop coping and get to the front to get your legs blown off for another billionaire's dacha.
>>525237205>this is why getting our arses handed to us on the daily is a good thingKek
>>525234011>It's not like he had a choice.He could have chose to... not attack Ukraine?
>>525232781He also disarmed russia, and showed the world how weak russia really is.
Russia has been winning since they went to attrition. NAFO trannies commit suicide.
>>525234018> Something like US invasion of Afghanistan was a much bigger LHow was the invasion of Afghanistan a failure? They took the country in around 2 months
>>525236035> nato is a paper tigerNato isn't eve. helping Ukraine at maximum capacity yet Russia is still struggling bigly
>>525242762this
>at least half a million Russians deadStopped reading thereLie better
>>525242762>>525243203Define winning because they tried capturing Kiev and failed at that and got dragged into an endless war of attrition. Now they control a few oblasts and literal who villages that are now completely destroyed and all new territory controlled is less than 1% of Russia's total land mass, all after losing half a million Russian soldiers, refineries, economy, etc.Is that a good trade off?
>>525234548>dictatorshipKekThe EU is more a dictatorship than Russia retard
>>525242907Because the goals expanded from just the invasion (which was indeed a success) to turning it into a functional democracy, which… didn't go very well.
>>525243340we can't know for sure but their losses must be staggering
>>525232781nafotroon is dreaming what war is already over, how cute.
>>525232781No, it's all part of the plan. They want to trigger WW3 to reduce earth's population. They need 3 useless eaters billion gone.
>>525243518Yea, I guess they were nieve when they thought they could civilize desert people
>>525243606At what cost?
>>525233786I remember Gonzalo Lira being one of them. Seems like so long ago now.
>>525243417>Define winningtaking their land. no amount of>too slow>6 gorrillion dead>not enough equipment>d-donkeys!cope is going to change that
>>525243417>gaining, resulting in, or relating to victory in a contest or competition.Retard they have gained the relevant territories of Ukraine, L&D rep & Crimea is like a 1/4 of Ukraines GDP and >5M people, and rebuilding in most places is already done, you can go to jt and see maripol and other cities back to normal>muh 1/2M soldiersRetard they've done 1 call up if 300K, htf have they lost 500K if that's all they are doing?
>>525243919War is always lossesIf u think russia lost a lot for getting just 20% of Ukraine you must also know there's opposite side that also had tremendous losses (only confirmed dead by name and birthplaces is 170k ualosses.org) just for LOSING this land
>>525243556We do know as there is no conscription or additional call ups
>>525232781>half a millionWasn't it a million last week?
Its tough to watchA caveman country with nukes
>>525243919Bigger the cost means bigger catch, as there will be demand to compensate sunk cost, by bigger contribution from the ukraine. Hohols had a choice to end all this will losing mere hundreds, maybe a few thousands, and no territory, in april 2022. But they chose death and irreversibly lost 15 millions of population and several regions. The more they submit to the will of their "allies" they more they will lose.Cost of war depends exactly on desire of hohols to die for foreign interests, for now, almost 4 years later they still eager to do so, how can we deny them nation death by russians? We have to oblige.
>>525232781The biggest blunder in the last 100 was probably Japan invading China.Whatever happens I don’t think this conflict will ultimately domino into Russia getting nuked twice by the US, their empire split up into its constituent parts and their country occupied by US forces. I mean it hasn’t ended yet but I still don’t think it will reach that point.
>>525244538>million last weekNext week it will be 6 gorillion. Hohols said so.
>>525243769I mean, it might've been possible but would be a high effort/cost, low return challenge, so half-assing that instead of just bailing (or not invading at all) was pretty dumb.In contrast, russian invasion is just a last gasp of a shithole that never arrived in the modern world. Even without failing in Ukraine, they would be stuck in the state of a dying resource colony. Just instead of the Euros, it's for jeets and chinks now.
>>525232781Also Europe got a real reality check and learned about the importance of having shitloads of 155mm shells. Now they're rearming faster than ever before. Contracts all over the place. t's the best thing that could have happened. Poor Ukraine man. Shafted by Russia, and shafted by western bureaucracy.
>>525244649I mean, AFTER that Japan ended up more powerful than they ever were in the empire-LARP stage. What are two nukes to becoming the 2nd or 3rd biggest economy for a while?
>>525232781>>NATO is now expanding more than everNot after mutts latest south american retarded stunt>>forced to import pajeets to Russia to make up for the heavy losses in the warRussia is big. Swallows up everything, jeetsthe included.>Seriously, this sounds like the worst possible military outcomeYou clearly don't know/understand russians. Doesn't matter how much/many they lose. Eventually they will reach their objective. They are perseverent even if stupid.>and what has Russia gained? Land >All of this for gaining a few oblasts and destroyed villages that make up less that 1% of the total territory in Russia.Small steps anon, small steps.It's gonna all make sense in a couple of centuries or so.And considering what jewsa did with the middle east and south america it's actually a very logical and sound move. Same with nork nukes.
>>5252445381 million estimated Casualties. That includes wounded survivors. half of those are estimated to be dead. Obviously we don't know the exact numbers. But they're counted by drone and satellite images.
>>525244938what's so funny? It's objectively true.
>>525243518>Because the goals expanded from just the invasion (which was indeed a success) to turning it into a functional democracy, which… didn't go very well.And that's not a military objective, it's like Vietnam. Militarily the US and allies did fine, but the political objective was retarded.
>>525245076it's just basic math, what is it you don't understand?
>>525244951>But they're counted by drone and satellite images.you've counted these kills?
>>525244940>It's gonna all make sense in a couple of centuries or soIt wont make sense because there wont be any ethnic Russians left
>>525245163Whats your estimate?
>>525232781Not of the last 100 years, that probably still goes to the USSR's invasion of Finnland.
>>525245162Did you know all norwegians have down-sydrome?
>>525245263I'm not the one making claims
>>525245347All insult, no argument. I accept your concession. I claim my thread W and leave you to squabble amongst yourselves.
>>525234038Nigger, the rest of Europe have pretty fucking rational safety needs FROM Russia WITH NATO. If you think it’s a joke, NATO just blocked off all supply routes to Kaliningrad without firing a single shot. All because Europe is teaming up together against Russia (again).
>>525244649>The biggest blunder in the last 100 was probably Japan invading China.I mean the only resistance they got was really after they joined Germany with attacking Euro colonies and then got embargoed. Really if they'd not been cartoonishly evil they'd have probably been left alone with Manchuria.
>>525235846> denazifiedDo you guys actually believe that? Doubt Ukraine is more nazi than any western country or even Russia for that matter
>>525245599Lol imagine being this retarded
>>525233862The oligarchs are propping him up. If/when they get tired of him, he will be removed.
>>525245062>military blunderHesus fuck, just read the OP closer. Yeah, fair enuff. Guess, russia takes the W for the biggest L.
>>525245831They could replenish the most retarded nafo claimed losses just from the Ukrainian refugees alone, not even including the millions in the east of Ukraine taken or the millions in crimea
>>525246004A military blunder isn't a shitty casus belli.
>>525245717i think it's as silly as any pretext for war(or kidnapping presidents) is, but ukraine doesn't do itself any favors in regards to denying that claim. those fuckers practically worship bandera.
>>525232781ooh you're that hohol that was shipped here the other year. go back and fight for your hoholia, coward
>>525239042What big war might that be? Not China, they're just buying you out instead, not Europe, both your leadership and theirs are too wussy to actually do anything substantial, and not the US, because we're focusing on the Pacific since Europe is all our bitches already.
>>525238817he's not a costa rican, he's a hohol faggot either on VPN or living here after running away from hoholia like the coward he is
>>525232781Farmland but now its contaminated by unexploded ordinance, fiber optic lines and Russlime corpses that will seep krokadil into the black soil for eons to come. Even Pripyat will be more preferable. Oops!
>>525244648how will ALL THAT FUCKING BLABBERING improve in any way the lives of either Russians or Ukranians?its just an old man, sending young people to war, because he's too old to comprehend that nationalism is stupid, flag wet dreams is stupid as well but ok, RUSSIAH STRONG MENTALITY. You can't argue with bydlo.
>>525232781Yes
>>525246637for when chyna finally does a SMO on taiwan or when north korea has another go at the south, russia will almost certainly get involved in some capacity, assuming they're not still slugging it out with ukraine.
>>525246501>>525246674I'm tico and I'm not taking any sides (unlike yourself), just pointing out the facts and the crude reality. The reason that this country is so fucked is because of retards like yourself that cant analize a situation without jumping to conclusions or immediately taking sides like if it was a soccer game.
>>525247101>just pointing out the facts and the crude realityyou been reading too many r/Ukraine headlines lil nigga
>>525246699>screechingWe will get our Austria, at our western flank, one way or another, it's a question of national security.It's entirely on hohols, how long they want to die for foreign interests.
>>525234038>Russia has very rational safety needs against NATOKEK Europe didn't have any armies at all. They couldn't have invaded shit. Now they are re-arming like it's 1939. Fucking epic L by monkey. All that is missing for this to be poetic justice if for the far right, that Putin has been feeding with his propaganda and asymmetric war, to take control of one or more of the mayor countries of Europe, like Germany, declare the Russians Untermensch once more and invade the shit out of them under the cover of their own nukes to cancel that card from Russia, like India and Pakistan do to each other. That would he hilarious and well deserved. The world could use another 25 million Russians less.
>>525238904>and basically castrated Ukraine making it demographics unsustainableSo is Russian now with all their losses. The Slavs died in mass while their families don’t breed so they won’t recover from those losses, the churkas from Central Asia and Caucasus will keep migrating and breeding (including with widowed Slavic women) until they outnumbers you, then it’s the end for Russia as a country and civilization, while Russians (rusky) as a people are either getting extinct or some small, bullied minorities in their own former country. A pathetic end for a delusional people
>>525236182We know how to get the bear back, just drone it
>>525247032China and North Korea are both smarter than that. Even if not, Russia's going to be busy with Ukraine for years to come, I'm not sure if Putin will live to see its end.
>>525247516>French flag>in mass
>>525239042You’re already in a big war retard, that’s why your country is mobilizing people, why you expend cemetery drastically, why your own people call this war a meat grinder
>>525245186>there wont be any ethnic Russians leftDoubt
>>525247101shouldn't you worry about shit that happening in Costa Rica and how shit getting more expensive while salaries keep dropping and no jobs available? Russia/Ukraina should be the last of your worries, retarded playaso
>>525247826Because it's in mass in English.
>>525239924Replacing Muslim for Indian or Nigerian is like proposing someone to be fed cyanide or liquid mercury
>>525247956There probably will, but they'll be in little enclaves heavily outnumbered by the bickering Islamic emirates and Chinese resource colonies that the rest of Russia will become.
>>525244395You’re not even sun tzu level of war planning, neck yourself
>>525248063>Chindian flag>it's in mass in English
>>525247961>ummm dont pay attention to other things happening in the worldI worry about whatever the fuck I want to worry about. Also, are you seriously retarded? you're probably one of those sub 100 IQ retards that say that AI is a nothinburger and then suddenly is left wondering what happened when they are left without a job
>>525247101Post tamal with timestamp.
>>525234018If the Germans and the Russians worked together instead of killing each other you’d unstoppable. With Russian resources and German ingenuity, you’d maybe even top America. But you guys are too retarded to work together.
>>525248567the fuck you gonna do with AI, retard.. make more furry porn to jerk off to? waaau, we've got a smarters tico in costa rica here
>>525248360Because it is in mass in English. It would be weird for a French person to use a foreign expression of their own language in English.
>>525248063*Changes flag*
>>525248698>Chindian doubling down on its ESL wisdom
>>525248869I'm not the Frenchie. It's a really stupid concept that someone would use a foreign expression from their mother tounge.
>>525249031Why are you speaking for that "other" guy?
>>525248671you just proved my point, mongoloide>>525248568Bruh its January, theres no more tamales left
>>525248998>on its ESL wisdomEn masse is not English, it's purpose was to appear educated by slipping in a French phrase into English. Which is stupid for a French person to be doing.
>>525249139I have tamales left.
>>525249139do tell us, maestro.. what you using AI for
>>525249166>En masse is not English
>>525249096Because it's a retarded concept that someone would use a foreign expression from their mother tounge when writing in a different language.
>>525249266Where did the French guy go?
>>525249166>En masse is not EnglishNo Panchagavya for you today, saar.
>>525249444>links to his own post
>>525249347>>525247929>>525248160>>525248316
RUMAO THE SHILL DELETED HIS POST
>>525249559Yeah I fat fingered it, his post is one under.
>>525249553>VPN jeet doesn't even know how dictionaries work
>>525249553It's a foreign expression, meaning 'in mass'. It's not English.
>>525232781Probably not the worst blunder because its looking like eventually Russia will win but its undeniable that they fucked it all up pretty bad, also obviously it was not about the couple oblasts it was about stopping US from making Ukraine their military base
>>525249649Because I linked the wrong post.
>>525235846>>525236035>>525236182>He took the land he needed>Ukraine is basically denazified and demilitarised considering their population is basically halved by nowUkraine is now (cheap innovative) drone war central for the entire fucking world and holding you back with them. So you're going to leave them with a devastated population, the women fleeing (or prostituted), and nothing to do all day? You Commies fucked up bad this time. This war with NEVER end out there unless the Soviet falls.
>>525249738>It's a foreign expression, meaning 'in mass'. It's not English
>>525249754>it was about stopping US from making Ukraine their military baseUkraine wasn't angling for NATO membership until Russia invaded.
>>525249783>tries to delete his own admission of using a VPN in panicLmao.
>>525249858>From French
>>525248593We literally worked with their retarded asses until 2022. They simply aren't capable of pragmatism like the chinks or even Saudi Arabian sandniggers.
>>525232781It was ukraine that invaded russia and yes it was a blunder because now all we hear is ukraine dispora here qqing about russia.
>>525249978>>tries to delete his own admission of using a VPN in panicMy negro I just fat fingered the post number above his post.
>>525248593I mean that's conceptually what East Germany was meant to be.
>>525249985
>>525248316i'm not huffing my own farts and pretending to be an armchair war lord. just a dude looking at maps. if those gains cost russia as much as retards like you tend to say, you'd think they'd either stop or collapse by now. they haven't. but by all means, keep coping.
>>525232781Retard
>>525232781what russia gained+6million more people(luganks +donetsk)+116000km2 more lands(currently maby more later)+$14trillion worth of minerals/fuels+battle experience/weapons testing+new weapons systems glidebombs, drones, hypersonic missle+ $608 billion worth of british pension funds that was invested by blackrock into russian giants like gazprom, tatneft, nornickel now stolen by russia due to sanctions+ domestic production increased since western brands left.+ massive butthurt and seethe from globohomo
>Cq98AhFJ (Costa Rica)>20 posts by this ID>gHlLjoix (New Zealand)>17 posts by this ID>Costa Rica flag disappears once New Zealand flag takes over
>>525232781The worst military blunder of the last 100 years award belongs to Hitler. But Putin wins second place.
Putin is a woke boomer that worships brown peopleyou see based racist russians and assume his policies are the same as theirs are but truth couldnt be any more differentputins whole point was to kill off russian men and making lebensraum for indians
>>525232781I can think of unsuccessful campaigns that had a far bigger impact.
>>525250381take your meds
>>525232781he keeps actively rejecting lifelines thrown to him by trump too. he's content to grind down his military down into absolutely nothing.
>>525232781Russia is done without putin anyway. Itll be carved up by cia jews and china will truly stand alone
>>525250510>only shows up once called out>New Zealand flag goes away Prove that you are from Costa Rica.
>>525250381How many of my posts are about how it's conceptually stupid that someone would use a foreign expression from their own language (meant to display education for an English speaker) using a phrase from their own language (demonstrating a lack of education for a French speaker speaking English)?
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>>525249886Ofcourse they were, why the hell do you think the US helped in the coup in the first place? I'm so sick of liars on this website, you can read it on wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations2014>After Russia’s annexation of Crimea, Ukraine’s parliament voted to seek NATO membership.2018>Ukraine amended its constitution to enshrine NATO membership as a strategic foreign‑policy goal.September 2020>President Volodymyr Zelenskyy approved a new National Security Strategy that “provides for the development of the distinctive partnership with NATO with the aim of membership in NATO.”October 2020>Zelenskyy told British PM Boris Johnson that Ukraine needed a MAP, as NATO membership would boost its security.February 2021>Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said he hoped Ukraine would receive a MAP at the same time as Georgia. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg confirmed during Shmyhal’s visit that Ukraine was a candidate for membership.April 2021>Defence Minister Andriy Taran stated that obtaining a MAP in 2021 was the top priority of Ukraine’s political leadership.June 2021>President Zelenskyy warned that failing to give Ukraine a clear signal and deadlines for a MAP would strengthen Russia’s position in Europe.This website is full of dunnin kruger retards and just straight liars, want me to go over the statements from NATO side next or will you stop lying?
>>525250471>>525250509They both started wars that they were not able to finish that resulted in a huge demographic disaster so quite similar after all, yes
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>>525250526Eh, it's a bit late for lifelines.This >>525237205 nigger is mostly deluded but even he understands that ending the war would be an even bigger disaster for russia since their entire economy now is built around sustaining the war machine at any price.
>>525232781>perhaps we could improve our society a little with our unlimited resources>nah let's be niggers and bring everyone around to our level
>>525232781They were warned.https://web.archive.org/web/20220118104758/https://anti-empire.com/war-dont-do-it/
>>525250728>Ukraine wasn't angling for NATO membership until Russia invaded.>After Russia’s annexation of Crimea, Ukraine’s parliament voted to seek NATO membership.Gj proving his point?
>>525245318Simo Häyhä demands more TzD
>>525250840You poleniggers whine and complain about Russia so much why don't you just marry them already
>>525232781The wars primary aim is to depoulate Ukraine and then establish a Banana Republic that will allow foreign intreasts to drain its fuel supply. If the Russian government still acted in the interests of their people they whould not have sabtaged Wagner in 2023. Same reason Ukraines supposed allies have essentially done nothing but war profiteer of the desperate situation Ukraine finds itself in. Historically the size and large population of Russia makes an unsupported (in terms of troop) war of attrition unwinnable. The War will eventually end, the Russian population will blip and recover while Ukraine will have a massive deficit in young men. Not to worry though there loveing allies will replace them with third world migration. Need some one to work them gas fields.
>>525250728>After Russia’s annexation of CrimeaSooo.... What ai said?
>>525251005>poleniggers
>>525251135Russia invaded 4 days after the US backed Maidan revolution, it started from there, obviously right after america conducts a coup they try to make the next government pro America, this is really not rocket science. Russia invaded Crimea because of Maidan and later invaded Ukraine again because of their NATO aspirations, this is crystal clear to everyone who has followed even the surface level of the war and understands the timeline of events
>>525250818>but even he understands that ending the war would be an even bigger disaster for russiathey are not able to back down since they are already stuck in a catch 22 situation for the last 4 years and thus forced to continue the war of attrition. The only way this would have be seen as a total victory by the same Russian people was the scenario where they had perfromed a Blitzkrieg style operation at the beginning of the war and captured Kiev with minimal loses, but that didnt happen.
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>>525251497You got me bro, I'm a pajeet from Bombay and my name is ranjesh. Be right back, going to the designated shitting street around the cornertake your meds
>>525232781Good move if you're the giga global elite class who are dividing the planet into red and blue camps for the coming war. It's groundwork.
>>525251351>, it started from thereNot really. Like the direct call for NATO membership is in response to Russia invading. Before that it's based entirely on conjecture that their revolt was instigared by the US.
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>>525238750Filling up the country with jeets has to be the last straw
>>525251719Yeah its not proof that the coup was US backed if Victoria Nuland and John McCain the biggest neocons are literally on sight telling the protesters America is on your sideGod help me tolerate the imbecile, the liar and the shill
No, the blunder was not invading in 2014
>>525251616What even would a NAFO shill be doing in Costa Rica?
>>525252662sipping coconut water at the beach
>>525248262>There probably will, but they'll be in little enclaves heavily outnumbered by the bickering Islamic emirates and Chinese resource colonies that the rest of Russia will become.First time dealing with russians?Understandable
>>525252925Post coconut and beach with timestamp.
>>525252140>God help me tolerate the imbecileAgain, NATO membership wasn't on the books until Russia invaded. You can say the instigation was a foreign backed coup, but Russia's response isn't pragmatic by invading.
>>525253184sea necio mae
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>>525250294>if those gains cost russia as much as retards like you tend to say, you'd think they'd either stop or collapse by now. they haven't.Mutt logic does not apply to Russia or russians.They'll keep on pushing irrespective of costs and gains.That's what they do. It's their thing just like putting up delta force shows to mask your weakness is your thing. Russian are like slow ice tidehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sGRKh-q48gwEventually they will engulf you.
>>525233536And also being in power for so long. He already had several conflicts that he settled. So I don’t think he saw the pitfalls of invading another Slavic country with the same trained post-USSR military + given U.S. training in the last couple years. Warfare’s changed considerably since George in 08 too.
The USA was literally fighting all of russia and China in Venezuela. We defeated the best equipment russia and China had in 30 minutes. Lmao.
>>525254042holy cope
>>525234369Everyone has done similar beforeYou think you got it all planned unlike the last guy then something random happens and grinds the charge to a haltThen the next guy avoids that factor and runs straight into another one
>>525249553Thanks for trying to correct this genuine mistake for the past two hours, now go swallow drones up your ass EN MASSE Ruski tardovdky>>525249559
>>525250294If your understanding of war and geopolitics is just «look at map color» then neck yourself also learn about ww1
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>>525245599LOL okay kike, whatever you say.
>>525232781Lol you've been reading too much propaganda son.
>>525254042USA still haven't conquered Venezuela LMAO. You just kidnapped their president after someone ratted him put
>>525236182You guys think you are a bastion of moral values but in reality you are like a homeless person throwing shit at the people that tried to help them.
>>525233536He fell for a trap.
>>525234038Remember how you dumb faggots starved Berlin and the u.s. sent them a metric fuckton of food just to spite you for being shitty to your people?Eat my ass Vlad.If you ruled the world everything would be shit because you suck at resource management.The capitalists just want trade.Japan kept it's autonomy after we beat their ass and so did Germany.Maybe if your culture didn't suck and you found some goods to sell us we'd warm up to you.The u.s. fuckin loves anime and the japs got stronger because of trading with us.We'd eat your Slavic shit up if you weren't such backstabbing self sabotaging jews all the time.
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>>525241370>less than 4 years>half a decadereally made me think
>>525250497You literally just described NAFO's world view, and yet you support them. Really interesting.
>>525254461Nice plan. When do you start ?
remember when they were talking about disbanding NATO and suddenly it became as relevant as during the cold war? they managed to push for another arms race. Why cant they just stop invading neighbours, they have the largest territory on earth, full of natural resources.
>>525232781no. America attacking the Third Reich was the biggest military blunder in the past 100 years. Look at what happened to the west, just as Hitler and his entourage was talking about
>>525257234Because those retard want to go back to «gloriouzze day of ussr empire !» Without understanding that they would just get a few more shitty central Asian shithole filled with Muslim churkas who’d move to Moscow in a second if this would happen.
>>525232781literally none of that is correct lmao pathetic nafoid fatso neckbeard
>>525254194It's like Mike Tyson said: everybody has a plan until he gets punched in the mouth.
>>525233536i got fooled by it but after the first few days of the special poop job i realized what a fucking retard putler is
>>525232781The last HUNDRED years? Fuck off, low-info idiot.It isn't even that big of a blunder, as it's hurt Europe more than it's hurt Russia.I'm certainly willing to consider that it is (for now) a mistake on Putin's part, but would not it have been an even bigger mistake on the part of NATO and the Gremlin in Kiev to agitate for war before Russia invaded?It's hurt Europe in general and Ukraine specifically more than it's hurt Russia.In 2021 Ukraine's military was being trained in Ukraine by UK NATO troops. This violated various agreements that Russia had with Ukraine. (Note that I am NOT saying that Russia didn't also violate treaties.)Basically, you should go to Ukraine and die for it if you believe in this propaganda nonsense so much. The world would be better off without you. Go die for gay marriage in Ukraine.
>>525258190I'll go die for gay marriage in Ukraine, if you go die for gay rape in Russia.
>>525232781>Lost Syria because of it>Lost Venezuela because of it>Became China's bitch instead of partnerDon't know if the worst in 100 years but it's been bad
>>525232781>closed 40 year tech gap in a couple years(most Euro armies still don't have any modern drones)>splintered western alliance network>captured more land than the entire territory of England>Outproduces a block that outnumbers him 10:1 by population and 25:1 by economy>Wrecked Euro economies>Showed that no amount of money and equipment can actually defeat him>removed all opposition and consolidated power like never before>dismantled "rules based order" in a couple yearsUnless Russia magically collapses two more weeks from now, it will be remembered as a pivotal moment, where Russia went from a dying soviet remnant to a second tier world power and Europe went from being an almost-equal to the US to beginning its century of humiliation. In Russia, it will be seen as a great, nation forming event. The only argument that it wasn't successful is "well they didn't conquer the entire country immediately, and the news say every single week since the war started that that they ran out of oil and missiles for real this time, so they're probably losing"
>>525258772>Showed that no amount of money and equipment can actually defeat himThey're struggling against stuff from the 80s.
>>525232781>>forced to import pajeets to Russia to make up for the heavy losses in the warHow long do you figure until we see them on the front line>B-b-b-but i was promised job in computer SAAARRRS
>>525241590war ended in days until europe told zelya to restart it, what you see today is corpses amassing just because investment funds invested in long on military industry. Gotta get those juicy contracts.
>>525232781It was preordained the moment he got butthurt about having to pay for rent of Sevastopol port.It was I believe in around 2010 or something where he had an interview buttmad about it complaining that it would be cheaper to build a new base. This interview is not famous but is there in some papers and old news websites. Then 2014 was a moment of zugzwang and every decision was inevitable and worse than the other with no good options after the (admittedly well planned) operation to take crimea. You can't NOT start shit in drumnbass because you need it to boil to protect crimea. You can't not invade since ukraine got organized and rearmed to start clearing this shit up. But tl/dr "why the fuck do we have to pay you for "our" base with discounts on gas, fuck you" is the sole reason for the whole 12 years of deaths and destruction.
>>525237431All those russians volunteered, don't feel sad for them.
>>525243434vpn off, Pasha
>>525258772> US invades Mexico> Estimation for complete domination: 3 days> Mexico getting weapons from Latin America and China> in the first days elite squads are obliterated by Mexican forces> US stuck in a trench war with Mexico for 3.5 yearsthat's how bad this war is for Russia
>>525260428>Can't take a village 50km from the border
>>525232781To be honest it just seems like one of those inevitable things that simply will be absorbed into the history of both nations.
>>525260428>>525260511>the US presidents hotdog vendor with his own PMC starts a coup>a few kilometers away from Washington, Canadian PM convinces the hotdog vendor to stop
>>525260428>Erik Prince the owner of Blackwater is marching his army on Washington DC only for a Canadian PM to call him off. >USS Gerald R. Ford is quietly sunk somewhere in the gulf of mexico>Mexico briefly takes over a part of Texas.
>>525260428What can we update this with?
>>525234038>post WWII narrativefucking retards>we need a buffer zoneyeah, so you start a war to become better defendeda war against the poorest country in europe.
Saaaaars
