>>525449602Interesting
>>525449602Aristotle was talking about much smaller entities than today's countries though. His thought needs to be understood in its specific context first. He was heavy on civic participation in running a polis, at his time there was nothing resembling today's technology, travel was slow, most production was local, etc. etc. What he would really say about today's society, well... He would of course disagree with a lot of things given what he saw as the individual's purpose and more widely the society's purpose.
>>525451936thats a whole lot of words instead of just saying >im stupidif it doesnt work on a micro level its not going to work on a macro level. the experiment of multiculturalism in the 20th and 21st century has long been a failure, you're free to cope until your last breath, everyone moves through the stages of denial at their own pace.
>>525449602division, public nudity, and violence are the hallmarks of the devil. these expressed through humans indicate demonic influence according to the catholic church
>>525449602Yes.The old greeks are much more similar to people here than thet imagine.
>>525452388>this is what it looks like after you've brainwashed yourself on the internetYou're seething about something I didn't say. Because you're incapable of rational thought. You have a need to see everything in a turbo-polarized emotional way so you attribute others with views that fit the needs of your rotting brain. In doing that you've lost all sight of the difference between objective reality and your own imagination. "Cope", the absolute state of your brain lel. Aristotle would throw you out of his school on day one.
>>525451936>Aristotle was talking about much smaller entities than today's countries though.Asspull. Aristotle lived when the biggest threat to Greek city states was the sprawling multi-ethnic Persian empire.
>>525449602But Aristotle didn't even like democracy.
>>525449602basically every single person from the past is further to the right than even /pol/
Probably. /pol/ just an ongoing symposium.
>>525449602Perhaps not, but based gigachad Diogenes deffo would.
>>525449602Read the entire book, he criticises Plato's republic and argues that too much insularity and uniformity destroys the rich diversity of roles and traditions that make up a nation, but also advocates against too much openness and cosmopolitanism because it also erodes traditions and rejects the very structure in which human virtue and culture can thrive.In other words he was advocating for a kind of measured plurality within limits as a nation isn't just one culture but a variety of compatible ones.
>>525451936Thanks reddit
>>525449602He's the "designated and certified for BGC" poster
>>525455168When someone did not consent to the rule of a place he could just move elsewear and start their own thing, this isn't possible anymore because countries are tightly packed and with that goes the mechanism of alleviating pressure. Furthermore in small soscieties deviance is visible and confronted and consequences are personal, they aren't externalised towards some system or situation, large societies on the other hand shield deviances and excesses, the system takes the damage, one can hide in anonymity or in a like-minded crowd and signalling replaces personal responsibility. And this fuels both bad extremes, enforces seek more control and liberty seekers seek more insulation from the system, and without a pressure release valve it inevitably implodes hard. So the scale matters a lot, totally different dynamics.
>>525458879Is everyone stupid to you? What Aristotle wrote is plain and your attempts at contextualization are retarded and unnecessary.Nigger shut the fuck up.
>>525459842His entire book is an exercise in contextualisation and he explicitly addresses the problem of scale dumbass, it's one of the most important factors of his political thought, read the fucking books.
And if he was to visit us today in a time machine he'd come to his worst nightmare as he rejected the concepts of universal empires, world citizenship, cosmopolitanism and abstract "humanity" as a political entity like the liberal humanists have pushed, he'd call us a pile of hubristic and corrupt shit and nope'd out of here.
Here you go, some direct quotes addressing the scale problem...>“A city should be so large as to be self-sufficing, yet so small as to be easily taken in at a single view.” - Politics VII.4, 1326b–1327a>“When the population is very large, offices of state cannot be administered efficiently; the citizens cannot all be acquainted with one another.” - Politics VII.4, 1326bBecause in his view the scale of large empires or other large-scale abstract structures exceeds the scales at which virtues can be cultivated.
>>525449602Meritocracy > democracy. I made a thread about this but pol is to mixed to care about such stuff. Democracy means both the stupid and the smart have the right to vote. Meritocracy means only the smart can vote. Imagine, a negro who thinks that george floyd was the first US president can vote.
>>525465040>>525465040Merit and meritocracy can only exist in universally White countries.
>>525465040Well in Aristotle's view the regime type is secondary to virtues, without them democracy turns into kakistocracy, monarchy into tyranny, aristocracy into corrupt oligarchy and so on. So meritocracy is yet another regime type that may collapse without virtue.Btw he doesn't even advocate a rule by the virtuous because he doesn't expect everyone to be virtuous, he accepts human limitations so he builds a multi-faceted system with balances and stabilising factors, with virtues themselves being his key stablising factor that prevented corruption.
>>525466874I've only been away for 2 months and you've ruined it. Fuck the new captcha.
>>525451936>Aristotle would say "no, we're big enough that divide and conquer? I mean what even is that?" and then the goyim would give me a million dollars
>>525461536You Cyprian nigger needs to understand that in the past EXILE was a serious punishment that people really cared about. Why? Even without a police state, border control and surveillance everywhere people did not want to be exiled, because it fucking sucked.Get that through your thick skull, being with your own kind in a hospitable environment is one of the best moodlifters ever. Even criminals like it.
I like how Aristotle's writing is clear and he doesn't engage in intellectual gymnastics. How can the message of a Greek from over 2000 years ago be clearer to us than what intellectuals have been doing in the temples of Jewish supremacy that are American universities for at least 50 years?
>>525449602>>525449856>>525451936What's really interesting is this has been known, and the jewish leaders did it anyways.
>>525467922It depended on your circumstance, all Greek kingdoms here were founded by rich guys who left Greece and founded their own kingdoms using Trojan loots, it surely sucked more for those who were left behind without getting a share of the spoils.
