Trump royally fucked elon
>>525513679Burgers blown the FUCK out!!!
>>525513679They're still dogshit they just sell more of them because there are more chinks and they don't care if they live or die. Also gutter oil.
>>525513679Don't worry, Orange Rabbi will solve this problem with MORE TARRIFS o algo.>>525513900CopeTeslas (or "teslers") are known for catching fire and being of shitty build quality. America is the new China, making substandard crap, except unlike china their products are expensive and they make less of them.
>>525513679Those rolling holocaust ovens? How many people have chinese ev's killed? thousands at least.
>>525513679I just returned from a business trip in Mexico and they were everywhere. My uber was driving one and it was pretty cozy.
>>525513679Trump had nothing to do with it. BYD are simply better cars, sold at a cheaper price. Europe taught China how to build luxury cars, now China decided they don't need Europe and they build European-quality cars for knockdown prices.BYD automated their production process so heavily, there are no humans involved in making most BYD cars. Tesla could only dream of this level of efficiency. The lack of human labor to pay means BYD can afford to sell an entry-level sedan for $10k and still make a profit.Meanwhile Europe just banned Tesla's retracting door handles because 15 people have died in accidents where the handles refused to work in case of a car fire. Elon is a fucking idiot and watching his empire burn is top entertainment.
>>525517340>there are no humans involved in making most BYD carTrue, they're all chinese
>>525517395very funny. But seriously they run factories where they are zero workers present. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBdcNA_FsI
>>525517431>very funnythx for laugh
>>525513679>>525513900tesla quality is worse than byd, Tesla was basically cruising by selling carbon tax swaps from leases to corporate America. They where also making money off anyone who actually buys by making double profit of a toyota just on the sale of the car itself, not including all the bullshit subscription services they make profits on. Then there is the self driving meme, If you are a retard you basically either pay subscription fee for fake self drivin tech or pay a lump sum which is overpriced.
>>525513679No, the US still will not register any Chinese vehicle for use on public roads. If Trump wanted to fuck Elon he could change that.
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>>525517731US cannot compete with Chinese EVs so they just decided to ban them, so there's no threat to the US car industry. It's pretty sad
>>525513679I am going to buy a car. And I was thinking of BYD qin L 2024 premium. Should I do it?
>>525518022I think it's more that they want to keep their super high profit margins, especially with trucks. Even Toyota (US) gets in on that action.Speaking of Ford, they've recently discontinued the Lightning and will replace it with a reverse-engineered BYD hybrid truck calling it an Extended Range Electric Vehicle (EREV). Yes Ford had to smuggle over Chinese cars so they could reverse engineer the technology literally, not figuratively.
>>525518540>reverse-engineered BYD hybrid truckUS used to accuse China of reverse engineering and intellectual property theft, now they're the ones doing it
>>525513679China forces the Chinese to purchase the latest e-shit by banning and confiscating older models (which are hawked on Africans). No one gives a shit about compulsory chink scooter sales.
>>525518632Well the only way to maintain infinite growth is to cut superfluous expenses such as R&D.
>>525517731Chinese vehicles don't meet US safety standards, and BYD is the #1 carmaker catching fire today, by a lot. BYD would have one single car of theirs roast the occupants and have to recall every single one of them and fix the problem and get a multi-million dollar fine on top of that.
>>525518887>superfluous expenses such as R&Dtop kek, bravo
>>52551367990% of musk’s contracts are with the US govt literal gibs leech
>>525518632BYD is Chinese government subsidized so they're dumping them in foreign markets to disrupt automakers and put them out of business. Europe does this and in a few years, there will be no more European-made cars. China will then sell you BEVs at huge markups.
>>525518914>>525519035Every post of yours in this thread is filled with false information. Hyundai and Kia are the most flammable car brands. BYD isn't even the top 10. BYD also has unmanned factories due to heavy automation, so very low production costs. Their subsidization is the not the reason for their low price.
>>525518914>Chinese vehicles don't meet US safety standardsUnfortunately you've fallen for a literal psyop that I see spread here a lot. The truth is BYD not only meets but even exceeds the far more rigorous European safety standards.
>>525518766I would still deep dick Tomoko.
>>525519035>BYD is Chinese government subsidizedKeep coping
>>525513679Western corpos never learn>move manufacturing to chyna to cut costs>chyna copies all their IP>Chinese companies overtake bloated girlboss/jeet filled western corpo
>>525519155BYD cars catch fire all the time in China, the Chinese government stifles information about the fires, but BYD showrooms are catching fire multiple times every year. Their batteries are bombs
>>525519229>Yes, BYD (Build Your Dreams) has received significant, direct, and indirect subsidies from the Chinese government, amounting to billions of dollars, which helped it scale rapidly and become the world's leading electric vehicle maker, according to studies from the Kiel Institute and reports from news outlets like Bloomberg and the Atlantic Council. These funds came through direct cash, support for battery manufacturers, buyer rebates, R&D funding, and preferential policies, giving BYD a major competitive advantage. Keep being retarded
>>525513679Elon fucked himself.
>>525519368>the Chinese government stifles information about the fires>source? >they just do ok!!!!Nonsense conspiritard bullshit
>>525519573You VPN China shills are some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the internet
>>525519658You made the assertion, burden of proof is on you, yet you have noneEVs generally have much lower combustion events than ICE vehicles. You've swallowed just about every disinfo story about EVs that exist and are now confidently regurgitating them.
>>525519440Subsidized to help it scale quickly, isn’t the same thing as selling at a loss. The US subsidizes almost all its mega corps either directly or indirectly through contracts. That doesn’t mean these corps are selling their products at a loss and the Chinese government pays the loss. It’s ridiculous to even think that china is capable of subsidizing the whole world to buy new cars.
>>525519368Hate to brake it to you buddy. But even tesla is using BYS blade batteries in their cars. https://thedriven.io/2023/05/22/teslas-switch-to-byd-batteries-is-achieving-faster-charging-times/
>>525520825>BYSBYD*
>>525516492Please stop. That would only be a selling point.
>>525518081It’s currently the best deal in our country from a cost perspective, if you have a little more money buy a 2 year old prius as it’s a safe bet that it will age well.
>>525518540All auto companies do this.
>>525513679Bydlo is mostly driven in Chinatown. I never saw that car here but many of Tesla in comparison. Only because they can sell it to a billion bugs doesn’t mean it is wanted everywhere else in the world
>>525513900BYD is surprisingly good, the only thing that is inferior to Tesla is the software side but that can catch up whereas I think the rumour is that Tesla doesn't have any good engineers anymore hence why they don't release anything new (besides the cybertruck cringe) they pivoted towards the FSD because the actual car quality and innovation has stagnated, only to find that FSD also stagnated so Elon is pivoting towards the robots, then when people find out that Optimus is also facing the same issues that is when he will IPO SpaceX and say that is the most important thing in the world
>>525519158You mean the European standards that were mired in scandals as pretty much every car manufacturer just produced bullshit results to pass them?
>>525519795Because EV make up maybe 0,2% of the global market.
>>525513679And Americans still can't buy them because they've been duped into making their overlords even richer.
>>525522193It's 20% of all car sales in 2024 and 25% in 2025. https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025/trends-in-electric-car-markets-2
>>525513679>royally fucked elon
>>525522193Also those statistics don't include China where hundreds of EV fires happen basically every day.It also ignores a lot of other problems related to EVs. EVs for example can set on fire if the battery gets wet, petrol cars don't. EVs can explode with a minor but well placed bump, petrol cars need a full on collision to have any chance of exploding. And when an EV car does set on fire, putting it out is basically impossible and anyone inside is as good as dead. You can extinguish a petrol car fire and there is at least a chance the people inside could survive.
>>525522357Jew detected.
>>525513679China has 5x as many people as the US, so this isn't a great achievement
>>525522448Chang detected.
>>525522271Well, that'll certainly be a relief when we switch to nuclear for powering something other than data centers.I would have bought an electric car myself if everything involved in it weren't so fucking expensive and inconvenient at the time of sale. Hopefully China can unfuck the batteries for the long term without completely poisoning the ocean.>>525518887>superfluous expenses such as R&DHey @grok I need a blueprint for a car.Seriously, though, it's incredibly impressive how far businesses in the US will go to will additional shekels into existence, vainly attempting to force line to go up.
>>525523051If you get a solar panel setup, inverter and optional battery, you can run an EV right now without ever using grid power. They're on pretty much every second home in Australia right now. Running your car for $0 and never visiting a gas station again is pretty great
>>525522458but how can chinese afford to buy more luxury EVs you guys told me their economy was in shambles?
>>525513900Are americans even able to get the new chinese cars, or they are banned from purchasing them?The modern Chinese cars are times better than EU let alone US crap. You are right now like Soviet Union, living behind iron curtain.
>>525523247Chinese cars are banned from the sale in the US, to protect the uncompetitive US car industry from being bulldozered by China
>>525523238They have ultra cheap tiny EVs (cutely named "happy grandpa cars") from tons of different manufactures that would never be considered street legal in the USI think stuff like that makes up a majority of their market
>>525513679Now talk about the new Chinese electric car battery said to use one kilogram of silver, increase the range to 600 miles, reduce charge time to 9 minutes and solve the fire hazard problem. It's the silver you aren't allowed to mention. But do they pay you enough to keep an open secret? Do you even care to keep it? Teaching everyone English destroyed your use of the Tower of Babel strategy and you still don't know it. The Plebs were supposed to be too stupid to talk to each other and figure out how currency is created and distributed. No white Leftist can have this conversation because their real goal is to get rid of strong white men.
>>525519035again, your brain is full of shit. The reason chinese cars are cheap (AND have great money/price and quality now) is huge competition in China.BYD is not the only car manufacturer, theres like 30 different brands, fighting desperately for customers. Ironically, China is better at capitalism than US.
>>525523177>Running your car for $0 and never visiting a gas station again is pretty greatSo do I buy a new car every time it has mechanical issues, or are they designed for humans to repair this time? I just don't buy the hype around electric, probably because if they were truly and consistently cheaper to make and sell, companies other than Tesla would have performed Infinite Shilling Works to find a way to cut in on that profit margin.I wish I had your confidence in solar, too. Then again, you live in fucking Australia, so I guess that makes sense.
>>525523457>Ironically, China is better at capitalism than USMUTTS ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!!!
>>525523575Solar works fine in the northern hemisphere, somewhat worse than down here, but still pretty well. You can get 2kw/hr on a cloudy day on a 16 panel setup. EVs are also much more mechanically simple than ICE vehicles, and require very little maintenance. They also have far better acceleration than ICE cars due to lack of gear system, torque is instant instead of having to be built up via gears. I'm happy to shill for them for free because they're just straight up better technology than traditional cars. They also mean you go legitimately off-grid and cut ties with all the shittiest countries on the planet that used to be able to keep you leashed via oil.
>>525523453>600 mile range and charges in 9 minutesIf that were a real battery, I can only imagine how many military contractors would froth at the idea of being able to mass-buy silver under the pretense of having a strategic stockpile.How the fuck do you even hold a charge under those conditions?
>>525523457> great ... qualityHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAYou pretend that we don't have entire threads here dedicated to this shit failing and their vehicle spontaneous catching fire. Typical rusfaggot delusion.
>>525523819It isn't a question of it can work. They are just all low quality piles of shit and when have to replace the battery it's like buying an all new vehicle.
>>525524128tfw mutt that never even seen a chinese car and gets all his opinions from /pol/ shitposting talks about delusions
>>525524272Moderrn EV batteries are rated for 300,000 to 500,000 miles. The car itself will die before the battery does.
>>525523238>5x as many people
>>525522103>Tesla doesn't have any good engineers anymore hence why they don't release anything new This and the fact that musk makes retarded decisions against the advice of experienced engineers- redesigning the door handle needlessly is a great example. Jeets are yesmen and won't question a decision like that.I think the reason SpaceX is so much better run comparatively is that musk knows, or is afraid to, interfere with design decisions there.
>>525523700It's funny because it's true. I remember thread on twatter where mutts tried to convince everyone that competing with price, instead of pocketing the largest margins possible when selling stuff is literally communism
>>525525957Why are mutts so fat and stupid?
>>525524128This is like a boomer in the 70s talking shit about Japanese cars
>>525513679the US is such a fucking brown stinky shithole shitshow that even fucking china chinkland seems like they are doing better. thank you jews.
Elon is posting in this thread right now and his teeth are grinding. What an ugly bald fat bastard jew he is. His mother is a disgusting cum dumpster jewess witch and his father is a dysgenic retard. Elon is such a dumb jew that he requires Peter Thiel as a handler.
>i-its subsidized>d-dumping!>they set on fire! (Wrong)Kek americans coping are so funny. BYD cars are literally superior in every aspect, they are better AND cheaper. It's simply because they have complete vertical integration. They have the best battery technology while Tesla can only buy them from Panasonic lol
>>525524128>hitch mount falling off of a cybertruck after it hit a pothole.webm
this disinfo and cope coming from amerilards is pretty funnygov subsidies..fires..tariffs..bans..the US auto industry failing is a symptom of institutional corruption and cultural rot. eventually the piper has to be paid. and the payment is due.
