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The Japanese are calling China a paper tiger after they just got exposed in Venezuela

https://x.com/seiryukai/status/2009472679846564102
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>>525560617
The Maduro kidnapping was essentially penis inspection day and China and Russia came up short
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>>525560617
>Country known for their origami
>Calling anyone a paper tiger
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>>525560617
China for some reason has a history of underperforming
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>>525560879
>China for some reason has a history of underperforming
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>>525560879
China is a lot more fractured than people think.
Always has been.
It's regional there, even if the motherfuckers look exactly the same if they were born 100 miles east of you and have a slightly different dialect, you fucking hate them.
The Cold War and great firewall have given the world an incorrect view on Chinese national cohesion.
The all powerful government of the old days is gone, now it's just a bunch of capitalists ruling the party and everyone there knows it.
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Venezuela always ranked in the top 10 armed forces of Latin America, operating State-of-the-Art chinese, iranian and russian weapon systems.
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>>525560617
>implying Maduro wasn't sold out and it wasn't deliberately stood down
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It doesn't even matter what kind of technology china has. In the event of a global war they can win by just by throwing a billion troops armed with pointed sticks in a giant human wave attack.
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>>525565054
how's that working out for the russians?
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>>525565054
They only have about 200,000,000 prime military age people, tho.
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>>525560617
That's a big cope
Even RaRa America analysts point out that Venezuela only had 20yo first generation systems that only had early warning functions and couldn't deliver any weapon quality tracks.

And in the end, it was all political. Having 5000 MANPADS and visual ID on US helicopters and not even attempting to shoot at them shows that even if they had US air defense Patriot SAMs, they would have lost
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>>525565373
Well Ukraine has an absolute shit ton of money thrown at them and even if they kill 5 to 1 they still have no troops
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>years of wumao shilling all undone in a single day
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>>525560617
Once we get laser anti-missile defense, its over.
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>>525560617
I'm starting to think the entire Venezuela op was just an excuse to test our shit against Chinese shit. If that's the case, it was a complete and total victory beyond measure.
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So was it a beta test?
Failed now but improvements can be made and you used a leftist to try it for you. If not baeed then at least hilarious
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>>525565608
The anti stealth radar system they had was only 10 years old.
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>>525566229
That presumes the Chinese defense systems were top-of-the-line, which may or may not have been the case.
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>>525566229
Not just that but it definitely knocked China down a peg or two in geopolitical standing.
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>>525565989
and it was fucking glorious, that is why the pivoted to george foid to distract from their humiliation. the ten cent army can suck a fuck.
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>>525560803
>retard jeet doesnt know meanings.
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China literally spend billions!!! On VZ, they have big debt for China.

But apparently China would not put any of their good reader or air defence to protect them…. China is just been exposed, they also apparently failed in some missile test few days ago

Bad day to be Chinese fanboy, just because they can build ton of phone and other cheap things, don’t mean they can create top tier air defence and combat jet.
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>>525560617
Notice how the jews are provoking us with this military incompetence psyop so that we will beg for the real competent war
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>>525560803
It literally doesn't even say that in the original text. Grok or jewgle made it up. Instead, it says はりぼて which means papier-mâché, in other words they look scary but they're a total joke.
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>>525560879
Chinese military history has always been about keeping China together and not fall into rebellion, not about force projection. They vastly underperformed when going against enemies that are not just fellow Chinese, look at the Sino-Vietnamese war were the Vietnamese multched Chinese troops to the point where Chinese casualties made the entire US Vietnam war look minor in comparison.
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>>525568185
That's what "paper tiger" means as well.
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According to the un charter, China can attack japan (or Germany I guess) and the security council can’t even complain.
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>>525560617
Nippon is Raising again! ICIBAN!
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>>525560617
Ah yes ((((the japanese))))
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>>525560617
Countries finding out that US electronic warfare is basically invincible. We have electronic warfare for a good reason, because it attacks and disables and jams our enemy's weapons.
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>>525568105
>us
There is no us, there is no we. You are lithuanian and irrelevant.
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>>525568334
Yeah, but paper mache is not origami, it's a completely different way of making shit out of paper.
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>>525565989
Temu shilling, zigger shilling, BRICS shilling, and "multipolar" shilling all effectively died. They could dress up Russia's failures in Ukraine by bringing up Afghanistan, but with the US vassalizing Venezuela without a (initial) 20 year war shows that it was retardation from past president's that caused those conflicts and not the US as a state.
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>>525563789
Venzuela was already controlled by the US, there's no fucking way that not a single man of the hundreds there woudn't have started blasting at the murican helis with their assault rifles, this Delta ebin fags is all a sham, this is a victory for Langley and no one else
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>>525568105
I think its just miggers coping that they attacked yet another impoverished country. They need all the victories they can get.

Next they'll attack a country in Africa with Chinese investments and claim that they had all the latest Chinese toys
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>>525566229
It was a extremely risky all or nothing gamble on neutering BRICS/anti-US forces and to control the global oil supply. If it failed, then it would've been War
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>>525560617
>China sold fake, replica, temu chinkshit air defense products to Venezuela
Fucking kek. I hope Venezuela at least got free shipping
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>>525568689
you will never be a woman, soros soiboy
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>>525566421
Anti radar tech has far outpaced modern radar tech. Take last nights Russian strike on targets near Lviv for example. NATO radar systems didn't detect shit until the MIRV submunitions were already inbound towards their targets.
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>>525568661
>hottest new wumao cope
really hurt to lose the mandate of heaven, the century of humiliation grows larger.
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>>525568871
I mean it is bad for China either way. Either they just showed the world that going with China results in them scamming you with the worst tech possible that can't defend even symbolically against modern military tech, or they just showed the world that ALL Chinese military tech is worthless trash. It's really one or the other, because the "sold out" myth is something no one sane would ever beleive
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>>525569078
The only hot thing here is the nigger cock you worship, americuck, back to your nigger worship "kultur"
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>>525560617
The japanese do know a lot about killing people
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>>525569082
Are you meaning that America hacked the assault rifles of the hundreds of men positiones in Caracas?
Can you really hack assault rifles!?
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>>525569082
>It's bad for China
No it's not.
Walmart exist despite the wave of toxic, chinknesium garbage they stock and return.
The modern consumer associates ultra low costs with high value.
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>>525560617
they were probably not even operated
very obvious the new president and the army leadership betrayed Maduro if you believe in that Hollywood shit, you're brain dead
some Venezuelan are about to get real fucking rich in american monopoly money
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>>525569031
Isn't the whole point of those missiles that they're traveling fast enough that it's irrelevant whether or not radar can detect them?
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>>525569373
*Positioned
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>>525569453
>Argentina
Psst, hey kid...wanna become the 51st state?
Actually fuck off, we're full, negroe
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>>525568214
Your data is mistaken. Where on earth did you get that.
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>>525568661
Not controlled just bought of some traitor rats. Heard the one selling out Maduro are already dead and some Americans probably died. Will be killed in a sky accident or sume such.
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>>525569686
That's not an argument, faggot
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>>525569661
it's not up to you fat retard
it didn click yet but we're all american now
I'm as american as you in the amerigoy empire
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>>525563789
this
americans literally sent massive planes and helis that are easy to destroy which goes against every american doctrine, almost like they knew they weren't going to get attacked
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>>525569524
Good thing that America is on it's way to become Mexico 2 lmao, you have 100 million Mejichangos already LUL
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>>525560617
The japanese are America's greatest ally
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>>525569436
Well yes and no. The point of going that fast is so the friction with atmosphere creates a plasma sheath which absorbs radar and creates electromagnetic anomalies that interfere with comms and guidance systems.
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>>525569811
>Fat retard
>A fucking leaf thinks it's an American
IDGAF if it's called North America, and I'm skinny fat btw
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>>525565054
>It doesn't even matter what kind of technology china has. In the event of a global war they can win by just by throwing a billion troops armed with pointed sticks in a giant human wave attack.
You could nuke China and India removing 80% of their populations and they'd still have 260 million and 300 million people left, let that sink in.
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>>525569912
>Plasma sheath
Wtf cars about 3rd Gen warfare tech
We use photons now for instant recognition
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>>525568689
The chink defense weapons weren't impoverished.
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>>525570015
no no we're all american from Venezuela to Canada you want that technate you're going to get it
the mexican are american
the venezuelan are american
the whole Ontarioistan are american
globohomo is dead
long live globohomo
I'm practicing for the 4th of july already
lighting my menorah and everything
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>>525570168
I remember how America managed to push the Chinese out of North Korea, oh wait, it was the other way around
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>>525570322
Based Leaf knower
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Get 'em Americans!
Do your god damn Job!
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>>525566557
>muh monkey models
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Usa is paper tiger. Go try China and not a third world sandbox country. Usa has lost every war since the 70s.
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>>525560803
they are experts and thus the science is settled.
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>>525566557
>That presumes the Chinese defense systems were top-of-the-line, which may or may not have been the case.
The recent india pakistan conflict was the test for up to date systems. India got their shit pushed in by Paki/ chang systems.
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>>525570407
>>525570322
Top kek
Fuck you goys.
But seriously, how do you feel about being part of the new American frontier?
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>>525570521
That's an unfair test because it is against Indians. They were going to fail regardless
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>>525570422
Calm down Mr. Washi washi.
You'll remain in your vassal state status
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>>525566557
It doesn't matter because no one fired, not a single MANPAD fired, not a single assault rifle fired, nothing.
It was a complete sell out, Murica bought all the officers that matter and they simply told their troopers to not attack the helis coming that night because they are frens
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>>525569806
Ah I see you're full of shit then. Got it.
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>>525568661
>Venzuela was already controlled by the US,
I'd have to agree with you based on what we've seen so far
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>>525570341
The Chinese goal was to push the UN forces off the Korean peninsula entirely and unite Korea under the Kim monarchy, which they failed to accomplish. That is called a loss, you revisionist communist failure.
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They found a Prigozyn to turn it off.
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>>525570702
I'm not that Anon, I'm just saying you didn't state your argument, so your garbage opinion isn't valid
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>>525569862
>my kind shitting up your place, haha!
Quite the flex you have there.
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>>525570605
I feel nothing and nothing will change, i'd enjoy the 2nd amendment, but no way in hell that they would put it to work here.
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>>525560617
imagine buying your countries defence systems from the same country that runs Temu and Alibaba
Its like buying a defence system from wish.com
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>>525570763
The American goal was also to push the gommies out of the Korean peninsula, that's why uncle Dougie proposed his nuke plan, ergo stalemate, fuck you fag
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>>525570822
Yes, it's the curse of the Spanish empire, enjoy
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>>525561819
>top 10 in latam
so thats brazil, argentina, colombia, chile, mexico, peru, equador and then who?
there are barely 10 countries in Latin America my brown friend
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>>525570819
Ah okay I see so you too are full of shit. Both of you are unable to produce numbers showing that sino Vietnam was worse than the Vietnam war.
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China will be here 1000 years from now. Usa wont. Especially not a white usa. So cope while getting blacked and browned.
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Chinese just copy the aesthetics of Western weaponry. They have no real understanding of how it works.
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>>525571080
>Dead chinks vs dead gooks
Are we really having this discussion?
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>>525568661
>have started blasting at the murican helis with their assault rifles
This did happen though. One heli was damaged and two guys in it were injured.
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>>525561489
They act united but its every man for themselves over there.
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>>525570959
You can literally look up the relevant UN resolutions. Why do you faggots lie about shit like this? I genuinely don't understand the point.
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>>525571008
Let me help, making everywhere you go shitty isn't a flex.
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>>525570763
>>525570959
it was obviously a tie
in the end it was a loss for the people living in north korea
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>>525560617
I'm thankful for this guy, because every one is just ignoring the Chinese and focusing on Russia Russia Russia. Do they not remember Maduro bragging that his Huawei phone? The anti-stealth radar was something every Chinese shill was bragging about.

Keep the attention on China rather than Russia on this, they look WAY worse.
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>>525570302
they had JY-27A radars from the 00s

and that's not mentioning the actual AA integration
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>>525571223
>Chinks copy weapons and don't understand
That applies to everything they do. The SEA gooks are even worse, they're now copying that Chinese that are copying us and we all know what a copy of a copy looks like
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>>525568454
Japan is being primed up to be the Ukraine of Asia
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>>525570431
shut it curry tiger
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>>525560775
Kek
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>>525571460
The JY-27A is from the mid 2010s. So a decade after the aircraft it was designed to be able to detect.
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>>525571538
They do understand them, realize that it is far to expensive to actually replicate, and then create a cheap copy that fools retards into thinking it is the same
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>>525560617
It was an internal coup, all this stuff was betrayed.

How dumb do you have to be?
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>>525560803
kek
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>>525560617
It's possible Venezuelans are just incompetent and werent manning them properly. Don't forget the modern Chinese military is untested and lack real world experience. While that may be a disadvantage right now you shouldn't bet on the chance that that was their only disadvantage. They may be slow to act but they are very quick to learn
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>>525570208
Photon radars will render stealth meaningless unless the particular plasma sheath can deal with mm waves effectively. We will have to see what materials causing friction at what speeds would create such an effect or if it is even possible.
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>>525572379
It is probably a combination of factors. Maduro was very much betrayed from the inside and US forces knew exactly where to go and where to hit, Venezuelan forces are made up of the biggest retards possible who are either forced or are loyalists, Chinese tech given was probably never given actual training on how to maintain and work said tech, and then the tech itself is just in general not adequate against US tech. Same as how Indian jet pilots got fucking destroyed in Pakistan because they are Indian
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>>525566229
Trump is acting brazenly, and this is making rapid gains in the media. In fact, his adventures will never pay off and will require much more spending. He already wants a military budget of 500 billion more, and then another 500 billion will be needed. Etc.

The United States is in a crisis of overexpansion. The empire is unprofitable and heavily in debt, but reducing the empire and spending is a betrayal, and the politician will come to an end if he tries. Therefore, the empire will try to conquer new lands with the hope that it will bring profit. But in reality, there will only be more spending and debt, a couple of oligarchs will become rich, who will buy up everything in the country and inequality will only grow.

Obama and Biden had success in Ukraine and it ended up with huge expenses and debts. Trump is acting even more brazenly and spending will be needed more, otherwise it's a shame.
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>>525572087
>They do understand
Shut the fuck up, chink.
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>>525572379
beaners with US equipment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=197IxHaH34s
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>>525572560
>Will
They already do. And there are no exotic materials that will change than anytime soon
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>>525560775
Lmao
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>>525572924
You don't need to be a chink sympathizer to see that they probably do understand the tech, but realize they can never replicate it fully to any real extent, just like how Russia has loke 20 whole fighter that can compare to a modern US fighter.
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>525560617
>Chinese made slop just falls apart when you blow on it
So, what else is new?
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>>525573476
>they probably do understand the tech, but realize they can never replicate it fully
>But they can never replicate
You cant replicate what you don't understand and you don't understand what you can't replicate, chang.
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>>525572705
>reducing the empire and spending is a betrayal,
kek
pic rel
Trump just cut $18T off of Intragovernmental debt in 2025
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>>525573684
If you have no real money (because yuan is garbage) then you can't replicate the tech, but you can get close enough to fool retards who can't buy from the US to buy from China.
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>>525572705
>The empire is unprofitable
not for the NYFed kek
QE is UBI for the NYFed
Pic rel is the Rand Paul IORB report: The Fed’s Corporate Welfare Program
Released Wednesday, December 10, 2025
>Chairman Rand Paul Releases New Report Revealing Hundreds of Billions in Taxpayer-Funded Payments to Domestic and Foreign Banks Through the Federal Reserve’s Interest on Reserve Balances Program (IORB)
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025.12.09_IORB-Report-VFINAL.pdf
>“At a time of persistent and self-imposed worsening losses at the Fed, the manipulators of the American economy continue to pay banks to do nothing but have their funds sit in a safe,” said Dr. Paul. “How can anybody, especially the populist Republicans and the entire Democratic Caucus, defend such a subsidy when supposed income inequality and the national debt is at the top of the political agenda?”
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>>525573052
>They already do
Then why hasn't everyone replaced all their radars with photon radars? Seems stupid not to unless the limits are hard to get materials that cost a fortune.
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>>525574192
>Continues to move the goal posts
You're new here aren't you?
GDP allows for securing massive loans.
Money isn't an issue for China, being an unremarkable subspecies is China's real problem and it's been that way for an millennia or two
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>>525574364
>Everyone
What do you think of one nation figures out how to do something that automatically means everyone including Africa can do it?
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So many mad Chinese “students abroad”, ITT
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>>525574796
This.
Idk that china knows that it's agents are making China look worse with these posts
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>>525560803
kek
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>>525561489
Historically China has never held their shit together for much longer than 100 years.
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>>525574731
>one nation
Do you mean China? Because I looked it up and the only nation that seems to be producing this tech at scale is China.
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>>525566004
Already have it.
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>>525560617
>Do nothing
>Get humiliated
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>>525560803
Strange because China is the one that got folded.
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>>525576092
>I believe China when they say they can do things even immediately after what happened in Venezuela with the "tech the chinks sold them
Hearty kek. Come on, man...
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>>525571068
There are 20 actually
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>>525560775
Topkek
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>>525576999
It is
>do nothing
>good for a little bit as everyone else has problems
>citizens get use to doing nothing to the point where doing nothing becomes culture
>now can't do anything because doing something results in revolution
>everyone else gets shit together and slowly fucks China from all anglws
>China forced to do something
>fail because doing nothing made them get left behind
>citizens all think the problem was that they did something in the first place and revolt
>new power game ts in
>does nothing
>repeat
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>>525560617
this is like giving a bunch of niggers in africa leopard 2 tanks and then concluding from that poor performance that they must suck
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>>525577190
Wait is photon radar different from quantum photon radar? Which requires rare earths that only China refines at scale?
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>>525577362
>Leopard tanks and Africans
Chinknesium is not leopard tanks and Venezuela is not Africa
Get a better argument, get money, I want to still believe in you, you steppe chinks
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>>525577460
>Moves the goal posts yet again
So if I have a foundry and melt silver in my back yard does that mean I'm manufacturing solar panels?
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china is a coping seething fake ass bitch nigger with a smol yerrow thimble dick, a chattering monkey throwing poop and ooking about, nothing more.
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>>525560775
I mean, that's basically what's been going on since the start of the Ukraine War.

The whole reason why Trump has suddenly embraced an expansionist imperial foreign policy is that we've discovered that even our monkey-model export weapons are better than they best our "rivals" have.
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>>525560775
fpbp
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>>525560617
The Japanese are known for their honesty. But of course we know ching chong radar can be easily mogged
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>>525560775
Fucking kek
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>>525577687
Well China is producing quantum photon radars at scale to counter US stealth aircraft. You can cope, rage and seethe about it and about the fact the US doesn´t have access to critical materials to continue producing their own.
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>>525578213
>China numba1
Please stop this. This is basically as bad as the good morning saar spam we get from India.
China is making itself look worse by that day with lies they can't back up.
The less you do the better
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>>525560775
I enjoyed reading this
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>>525577318
All of Chinese history is collapse, fighting war lords, unification, we're better than you, get fucked by a foreign force that was in fact better than them, collapse, repeat. The fact that they thought this time was different is hilarious
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>>525561819
10? Out of what? 11? lmao
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>>525568214

China completely outmanuvered America in the korean war but once the fighting was no longer manuver warfare the american superiority in siege warfare overwhelmed them. Both China and North Korea were saved by the Soviet Union which outfitted them with artillery, tanks and jets. But tactical wise, the chinks and north koreans managed to wreck the US army several times, as long as the american lines were not solid from one coast to the other.
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>>525578899
To be fair, that was a young NATO and many of those that collapsed were European forces, then when Americans really revised everything they kicked China's ass back to the parallel.
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>>525570431
brown hands typed this
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>>525578899
How familiar were the US military with the terrain vs the natives?
Is this a home court advantage thing?
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>>525563789
Best theory I've heard is that he was given an honorable out.
>just like Hitler's Brazilian retirement
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>>525570632
truly a pathetic people
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Even if you are able to detect stealth planes
radars are easy to spot and overwhelm. The US probably had a good idea where those radars were and were able to use stand off weapons against them.

Even if you had those radars protected, you could still use covert ops against them with drones.

The houthis had it right with Infrared AA but they are short ranged.
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>>525560617
They were purposely disabled by backdoor deals, not from some imaginary missile.

Use your brain, some random tech failure after all this development does not occur. Donald Trump is a pedophile and the backdoor deals to protect Donald Trump's pedophile network is what will stop weaponry from working. Maduro was captured and sensory deprived because that's his fetish and because it is good cinema. After a 2-3 years depending on how long it takes for the public to forget about the event, Maduro will become a bus driver with a new name and will be on American welfare.
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>>525569912
"Hypersonic" means Mach 5-20, but that plasma sheaths thing happens in the Mach 20 range, not Mach 5. Measuring one's dick from the asshole kind of thing.
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>>525581113
>it was totally a backdoor deal in which Russia and China agree to be permanently cucked from energy dominance and lose three major allies in Syria, Venezuela, and Iran because.... I can't accept the US being better than everyone!
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>>525569836
Cope harder chang. Your temu s400's were worthless in pakistan and iran, and now vuvuzueala.
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>>525560775
KEK
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>>525569204
>Chang start fantasizing about bbc.
Many such cases
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>>525577053
CARLOS YOU FUCK
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>>525560617
>IT'S RUSSIAN AA
>IT'S CHINESE AA

Make up your fucking minds globoshills
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>>525578767
I think thats the joke
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>>525579310
It was MacArthur continuing his time honored tradition of being a massively overconfident retard. He had his troops outrun their supply lines and dispersed them too widely trying to wrap the war up more quickly. The Chinese, to their credit, exploited this well and forced the UN troops to retreat or risk being cut off completely. However they still took horrific losses in head up engagements during this period, Chosin was an absolute disaster for them. After MacArthur was rightfully fired, Ridgeway was brought in to stabilize the situation, which he did successfully. The war then stalemated around the current borders, with the communist forces generally suffering worse losses the last two years of the war.
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>>525579454
You don't even have to spot them we have an entire category of missile just for blowing them up automatically. This tech is so old it's on wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-88_HARM
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>>525568646
>They could dress up Russia's failures in Ukraine by bringing up Afghanistan
Russia failed in Afghanistan and it caused the entire Soviet Union to collapse.
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>>525569373
>Sub 80 IQ shitskin doesn't understand stealth technology and radar jamming
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>>525569395
~70% of Walmarts sales in the US come from American made products.
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>>525585742
>American made goods outnumba china at Walmart
Yea now after all the shit of the past 8 years. You are correct. I probably need to use a more current example in the future
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>>525570341
Only because our politicians held MacArthur back from turning the Yalu River Valley into the Sea of Irritated Cobalt.
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>q band
>z band
>backwards R omega symbol band

All russian hand-me-downs,I believe the Chinese weather balloons tried to datamine the f22s and failed
Sadam lit the skies up and failed for 2 decades,doubt chiner can do better
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>>525578213
And that's radar is going to do what? The chinks can't build a nuclear aircraft carrier and we just cut off their vuvuzuela oil and mossads cutting off their iranian oil.
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>>525570681
But plenty of people died so that can't be the case
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>>525561819
Well there are only 12 countries in South America and three of them are defunct rump states.
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Chinese people don't know teamwork.
I don't understand why Westerners overestimate China.
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>>525588525
And yet they constantly push the propaganda of collective over individual.



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