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all memes and bullshit aside, was this real or not? I need to know. and dont just say yes or no, give me a real argument.
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>>525626142
you'll get nothing and like it
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Yes it is real
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>>525626142
Yes
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>>525626142
Why would anyone bother to lie about it then but not lie about it again?
People evidently haven't gotten smarter and forging false proof has never been easier.
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The gravity.
If the moon is real then it will either
A. Have no gravity at all and thus they would drift off into space
B. Like the sun would have such intense gravity they would hardly be able to move
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>>525626327
I think my brain just broke trying to figure out what you meant by this.
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>>525626142
No
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>>525626142
"I don't remember seeing any stars"
-Michael Collins at press conference
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>>525626142
No. Moon is brown like all the mutts who supposedly visited it
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>>525626142
Completely fake.
There would be commercial flights to the moon by now. But there's none, because we still have no idea how to fly a man there.

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY
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>>525626212
all that proves is we landed something. not a manned mission
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>>525626327
>t. failed physical science
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>>525626142
The Moon landings never happened. And were designed to distract from the assassination of JFK. Maybe also from the assassinations of Malcolm X, MLK, and RFK.
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>>525626212
USSR landed an unmanned probe on the moon as well. 10 years earlier, in fact
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>>525626565
Fair point but we also left alot of extra junk around carried off the lander, assembled, and placed by humans. Including a few retroreflectors that you can still measure the distance to by laser.
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>>525626142
The way the moon landings were portrayed to the public was obviously faked but that doesn’t necessarily mean we did or didn’t go.
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>>525626142
no reason it couldn't be done. why fake it when theres a 100% probability of it being found out eventually?

>>525626557
your problem is that you ignore the context of the question they were asked. when you look in the radio comms record you find that he mentioned seeing stars at least twice, the second one refering to seeing them through the navigation telescope during inertial platform alighnment. he would have done that many times during the mission

00 02 48 07 CMP I see a bright star out there, must be Venus. Forgot to memorize John Mayer's views out the window well enough to say that's Venus or not, but it's sure bright.

02 00 49 44 CMP My guess would be the telescope's probably pretty useless, but you can differentiate in the sextant between water droplets and stars by the difference in their motions.
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>>525626430
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where "feed" and "seed" both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".
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>>525626327
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>>525626142
It was real but also a statistical anomaly.
The US flipped a coin and got heads 6 times in a row.
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>>525626142
The footage was definitely fake. Whether we actually went there or not im split 50/50
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>>525626142
The computer you're typing on and the internet we're reading your pensees from are fare more of a technological accomplishment, far more insanely difficult than putting a man on the moon. But the flat earthers and moon landing deniers can't see that. They assume, they take that for granted. They're dim witted nigger brains.
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>>525626142
It's a real event that happened.
What people saw on television was made by Kubric.
T. Revealed to me in a dream
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>>525628974
why would they fake a movie of something they did for real. thats the most retarded take in the whole thread
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it was real, denying it is flat earth tier nonsense pushed by the cia to delegitimize all conspiracy theories
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>>525629180
1) so they have nice shots to shoe the public in case equipment goes down or something goes wrong.
2)how did they make film survive in space? The radiation and freezing cold should have absolutely destroyed the film
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>>525626142
Yes, multiple antagonistic space agencies who'd have a vested interest in exposing a fraud, all independently photographed the Apollo 11 landing site, as well as the other 5 mission sites. All the stuff they left up there is still there. In a month Artemis II will bring people around the moon and back, they'll likely have some new photos of the site.

Reminder that "space is fake"/"Earth is flat"/"nukes aren't real" are all CIA well-poisoning bullshit.
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>>525629389
>should have
why? do you think things instantly get cold, or that film cant be made to remain flexible as it cools? why should radiation ruin the film? can't you choose a slow film that doesn't react to the slight exposure? how much was it exposed to? you dont know any of this.

>so they have nice shots to shoe the public in case equipment goes down or something goes wrong.
nonsense. the TV camera DID fail on Apollo 12 and they showed it failing just fine.
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>>525626142
I choose to believe it's real because it's cool
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>>525628839
went there 50 years ago and never since and never again. seems sort of fishy
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>>525626142
it was real and the current NASA is fake
full of posers and idiots
and that is where the contradictions come from
what is fake is current nasa missions

most photos circulating are propaganda photos
made on dry runs and retouched by PR
and there are many "science lovers" who argue
that those photos are real
which muddied the waters

there are countless shitty photos that are not well known
and show a more realistic picture
and would be very difficult to fake:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/with/21043802893
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>>525629946
>what is fake is current nasa missions
how do you mean?
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>>525626142
Only turd worlders and low IQ basement dwellers that don't understant physics claim it was fake. Everyone at the time it happened, including the USSR and China, agreed it was real.
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>>525630515
it means that they are not really working on anything
just live off government money and
set off new deadlines for the next artemis project
every five or so years
nasa is hollowed out and only nasa in name only
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>>525629793
That was the bargain we made with what we found there.
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>>525630672
would you say the upcoming SLS/Orion launch for a lunar flyby is fake?
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>>525626142
No
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>>525626142
>give me a real argument
Watch this documentary: https://luogocomune.net/americanmoon
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>>525631105
no, but if these dudes manage to get someone on the moon as scheduled I buy you a beer
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>>525632034
i'll be happy if, like for apollo, its before the decade is out.
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>>525626142
finally a good thread on /pol/ besides /chug/. Thanks anon for this thread and I believe in my own opinion that man has never been to the moon and will never be able to go to the moon. The firmament keeps us here on earth it's simple, most of what you were told to believe acutally never happen. The moon landing hoax was most likely filmed in flag staff Arizona out by crater lake.

also here is where you can find the apollo moon mission landing photos for those who even care about this subject.

https://apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
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This pic here shows that the american flag is wet. How can flag be moist in a vacuum of space? It can't and that is the point. The actors also known as astronauts purposely did this to make sure that people would eventually use some common sense and look at what they were photo graphing and you can see it as clear as day.

Jack Schmitt and U.S. flag with Earth above

look in the blue and you will see what I mean
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>>525626142
Obviously not
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>>525626327
all mass has gravity, gravity is the result of mass distorting space, the more the mass the stronger the gravity
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>>525628839
The space suits were sewn together by hand
They would have been torn apart nigger
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>>525633543
you can see the stuff they left up there with a telescope
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>>525630616
>we lost the technology and can’t figure out what we did 60 years ago despite massive technological advancements over that time.
Sure thing goy! Seems legit. That bullshit alone is enough evidence for me to know it is fake. Let alone the gaslighting they have done after the fact trying to claim that isn’t what they meant even though it was clearly stated as such.
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>>525626142
>NASA has spent billions of dollars to fly people AROUND the moon in the next couple of years
>but NASA landed people on it AND brought them back alive on 1960s tech
Yep 100% real. Plus the government never lies either :^)
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>>525633525
>This pic here shows that the american flag is wet
>because i say so

>>525633844
by what? 4psi? have you ever bothered to look at how the suit worked?

>>525633894
stupid lie meant to poison the well.
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>>525633894
Bullshit
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>>525633988
>no supersonic passenger aircraft for 20 years
>therefore
>Concorde was fake
stupid
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>>525634171
Unfathomably midwit. False equivalence. If they claimed they no longer know how to build a concorde and lost the designs for it, you’d have a point. But you don’t, because you’re a mong.
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NASA or also known as Never A Straight Answer cannot and will not explain this nasa photo.

Here is the lunar land rover that was supposedly used on the lunar surface during the apollo 17 moon landing mission. If you look at the lunar land rover then you will notice something that cannot happen in the vacuum of space. The rim of the back left tire is caked in lunar dust that has formed on the inside of the back left rim of the lunar rover. The front left rim of the lunar rover is clean without any lunar dust sticking to the inside of the rim. How can there be dust on the back left rim and not on the front left rim? They say that no liquids of any kind including oil or lubricant can exist inside a vacuum. So why do we see lunar dust sticking to oil on the inside rim of the back left tire and not on the rim of the front left tire inside the rim of the front left tire?

You can't make this shitup and the actors also known as astronauts are showing you this was all staged. Take a look for yoursleves and ask yourselves this same question.


https://apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
Apollo 17 moon landing hoax

the Lunar Rover at its final parking place
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why would the soviets play along
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>>525634389
Because cold war was fake and gay? Excuse to extract wealth
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>>525634480
that's an even more retarded claim than the fake moon landing
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>>525626142
yes and it was very expensive that why they will never do it again unless china would
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>>525634520
Tell me how I know you believe in the aix gorillion holocaust and that the vaxx is safe and effective.
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>>525634319
a few companies are trying but they can't. its not such a bad comparison at all if you thought about it. also, no one claims they can't build the apollo stack anymore, certainly not the one guy you faggots always want to misquote.

its just that theres no point retooling and retraining to make old equipment. thats why they made Orion, which is an upgraded Apollo Command Module, with a service module to go with.

the midwits are the ones who can't understand what it means when someone says that the destroyed the production line that was making the apollo stack and chooses to believe it means it was all fake.
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>>525626142
you have to be a grade-a goy to believe that shit. It takes about 30 mins of dyor to come to the logical conclusion that we will never leave this god forsaken rock
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>>525626142
Seethe harder jewoid

our based nazi scientists got us there 6 times
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>>525626565
Lol... All that proves is that Indian camera technology is better than Japanese camera technology or that India is in on the grift. (I know which I believe.)
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>>525634642
>complete gaslighting cope. Not a single valid argument to be found.

Thanks for coming out CSIS. I appreciate the implicit concession.
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>>525634123
>have you ever bothered to look at how the suit worked?
Bro they don’t have the tech to send humans to space and come back in 2026, why u think they had the tech back in 1960s ? they didnt even have cell phones or bluetooth speakers.
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>>525626142
It was real and thanks to american degradation it cannot replicated nor has any reason to do so.
>inb4 seething niggers
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>>525626142
if it was fake the USSR would have told everyone, they had every spy satellite they owned pointed at the moon watching us.
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>>525634784
you're very weak aren't you. you avoid the points i made, try to dismiss them, all the while engaging in pathetic attempts at distraction like this shit that you do all the time >>525634594


>>525634808
>Bro they don’t have the tech to send humans to space and come back in 2026
obviously they do. suits used to EVA from the ISS are functionally the same as the old A7L used for Apollo.
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>>525626142
That was 60 years ago. IF it were real, they would have done it again.
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>>525634594
i like how you immediately deflected from the "cold war didnt happen" thing because of how retarded it was
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>>525626142
>they landed there multiple times
>part of the '68 material was shot in a studio for propaganda purposes
It's not mutually exclusive, you know
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>>525626142
If course it was real. Itas the height of white Germanic achievements. The only people who disagree are sheeting brownoids that can't accept they're living in a world built by Europeans.
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>>525635020
>because i say so
>ignores SLS and Orion
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>>525626142
>jews
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The Apollo 11 moon landing mission is riddled with inconsistencies and with proof that the whole moon landing hoax is just that, a hoax. Take for example of this strut that holds up the LEM or Lunar Excursion Module. It's wrapped in mylar coating but yet there is something odd about this. How can a strut that made touch down onto the lunar surface not be covered in lunar dust on the foot pad and up and down the strut? It can't and this photo is proof that this is a prop and nothing more. That strut and foot pad should be covered in lunar dust especially from the decent stage rocket that was used to slow the apporach of the supposed moon landing mission but in reality it's nothing more than a prop for when they filmed this in flag staff Arizona out by crater lake.

https://apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

LM footpad
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>>525635001
Humans have never been to space, goy
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>>525635388
>That strut and foot pad should be covered in lunar dust
Or, your thinking is simply mistaken. why would regolith get caught on the pad? anything moved by the engine exhaust moves in straight lines until it hits something, then it continues in a straight line too after that. are you think it billows up and swirls around like we see on earth?

>>525635456
retard.
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>>525635650
Sorry to shatter ur worldview and ruin your autistic special interest but it didn’t happen buddy. If humans ever were sent to space, i assure u they didnt make it back.
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>>525635912
you're not shattering anything other than my already very low expectations for retarded moonhoax believer posts.
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>>525636008
Ok truman burbank go suck a dick!
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>>525633988
Exactly what I'm talking about, you're too low IQ to even understand what it means. At the time of the moon landing, NASA was almost 5% of GDP spending, nowadays it's not even 0.5%. Rockets and landing craft they used were expendable, they couldn't recover it from space or the moon, so they would have to build new ones. They don't have the money to do that, the old ones are floating in space, on the moon, or rusted pieces of junk, so yeah, they don't have the ability to recreat the moon landings. Give them 5% of the GDP again and they could do it pretty easily.
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>>525626142
Are you really the ceo of Rome as your ID suggests?
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>>525628839
Do you know how hot/cold it (allegedly) is on the moon? Do you how far the moon is?
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>>525626142
They just made a movie explaining how they faked it
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>>525632741
Agreed. Some based anon throws up a moon question thread most mornings here. I always recommend Wagging the Moon Doggy. And of course, just going outside and star gazing. The same person parroting NASA hasn't allowed themselves to calm down and go for a walk under stars and moon. That and the obvious gov/Freemason angles should put some fire in you. Make you ask, wait, what is going on?
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>>525629512
>why should radiation ruin the film?
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europoors are jealous and stoners will cloak their shitty personalities with conspiracy theories as a hail mary to seem interesting but the evidence points to the lunar landing to be very real as a testiment of true white ingenuity
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>>525633525
>How can flag be moist in a vacuum of space?
What if one of the astronauts pissed on the flag?
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>>525626563
That is a good doc this is another good one

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Si1QT4zpeY4D
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Imagine being Apollo 1 crew. Just some Freemason silly billies excited to "go to space" like, hypothetically they knew of a dome or limiter or just that we couldn't leave low orbit. But those Apollo 1 fucks go in for their "test launch"
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>HELP ME I'M INCINERATED AAAAAAA
>ROCKET FUEL IS BURNING MY VERY BONES AND SOUL AAAAAAA
and then they die and look down now, 50 years later, and we still cant go back. They died for nothing. Sad.
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>>525633894
Cool story, bro.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CrMQoXN7w0A
that is 4hrs long.
Taboo conspiracy channel had a good presentation on that, but his channels continue to get nuked.
Eric Dubay has some good fake moon presentations that could be found on bitchute.
Spacebusters has some good vids. You probably have to search Rumble abd Bitchute for them since jewtoob doesn't allow lots of things.
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>>525634023
>government never lies
If nasa really sent men to the moon (and back!) (nine times! between 68 and 72) then it will be the first and only time the so called "government" has ever been caught telling the truth.
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of course it was real.. only the most deranged and idiotic believe otherwise.
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>>525634389
Because the moon landing hoax elevates "governments" to the level of demigods thereby replacing invisible skydaddy belief with statism.
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>>525636679
hard for you answer when you've no idea what you're talking about.

>>525636892
>They died for nothing. Sad.
dumb take. that accident forced a whole bunch of issues to be addressed (that we all already noted but not addressed due to them feeling time pressured) and which almost certainly led to apollo being such a success.

>>525637068
>first and only time the so called "government" has ever been caught telling the truth.
government weather forecast is pretty accurate all the time, your thick-headed all or nothing way of thinking is retarded i nthe extreme.
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>>525629389
>1) so they have nice shots to shoe the public in case equipment goes down or something goes wrong.
This. They weren't sure if the material will be worth anything and if the crew would ever come back alive.
It was a serious propaganda stunt for USA vs USSR space race.
The first moon landing was considered so risky that Nixon had a prepared announcement on death of the entire crew. I believe the pre- recorded speech was published somewhere in the net a decade ago.
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>>525636324
>0.5%
that's way too much, it should be 0%. In fact, they should pay all that money back with interest
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>>525626142
Hello, CEO of Rome
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>>525636608
sorry about that fren I was looking at how ridicoulus these nasa photos are and how they show that it's all a hoax fren

>>525636852
how could they when they were supposedly wearing space suits fren
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>>525637394
>Radiation ruins photographic film by acting like extra light, energizing the silver halide crystals in the emulsion to create a "latent image," causing the film to develop darker, lose contrast, increase in graininess, and show fog (a grayish veil) when processed. This happens because high-energy radiation (like X-rays or gamma rays) and visible light both consist of photons that trigger the same chemical reactions in the film's light-sensitive material, essentially overexposing it.
I thought this was so obvious that it didn't need explanation.

>the government doesn't lie about sportsball scores therefore the government doesn't lie.
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>>525637672
and how does that chatbot supplied answer apply to the specific film and conditions during apollo?
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Here is another inconsistancy that NASA or Never A Straight Answer will never give. Here is the actor also known as astronaut Buzz Aldrin coming down the ladder. How is it that we can see him when he is in the shade and not directly in the sunlight of the lunar surface? They say that the lunar surface can reflect between 0.01 % and up to 12 % of light that can be reflected off the lunar surface. So how is it possible that we are able to see him if he is in the pitch black shade of the lunar surface? This photo was taken with an added light source i.e stage studio lamps that allowed the hassleblad camera to pick up the image of the actor or astronaut.

https://apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
The Apollo 11 moon landing hoax mission

Aldrin on the LM footpad
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>>525637672
That's why cameras were put into metal boxes. The films inside had better shielding against the radiation than the crew.
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>>525638267
Here is Ai's explanation but my question is how and where did the extra light source come from to pick up the astronauts image in the shade of the lunar surface? Realistically you would not be able to see that actor also known as an astronaut without an added light source.
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>>525637939
Quit being a retard. Everyone knows that radiation damages film. This is what we used to call common sense.
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>>525638267
why do you keep posting these shitty points and avoiding to discuss them with anyone?
>So how is it possible that we are able to see him if he is in the pitch black shade of the lunar surface?
because, like you said, the surface reflects sunlight. And so does the guy in the big white 90% reflective suit stood in full sun whos holding the camera

You're also looking at a photo which has had the exposure pushed to make Aldrin brighter. pic rel is a raw scan of the positive film. you can see how everything, including Aldrin, is less bright.
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>>525638563
like i said, its hard for you to answer when you dont know what you're talking about.
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>>525638540
>reduced to using chatbot help
lol. lmao even
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>>525638625
how can he when he is not in the light? You have a flawed explanation. The suit is in the shade and not in the light and since the lunar surface that he is in is also in darkness then there should be no way we would be able to see him. Like AI said, "Surface Texture: The moon's rough, dusty surface scatters light in many directions (diffuse reflection), unlike a mirror." Key word Mirror and it ain't there. Now the only way to obtain this image since the hassleblad camera capture this image? Not without a added light source simple as
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>>525638692
Have you ever developed real film? That shit is fragile as hell.
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>>525638981
>there should be no way we would be able to see him
thats simply wrong. do you think they need to be stood in the sunlight to see anything? because thats what you're saying, since you seem to be denying that any light at all could possibly reflect off the surface into their eyes.

whats happening is that some light is reflecting off the lunar surface, then reflecting off aldrins suit into the camera. some light is also reflecting off the highly reflective mylar foil onto aldrin into the camera, and also off armstrongs suit onto alrdin and back into the camera. very simple stuff.

then theres the dynamic range of the film, which is clearly set quite well since theres little if any detail lost in the shadows or highlights.
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>>525626142
Yes
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>>525639310
have you ever handled the positive slides used on the surface?
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>>525626142
>real or not?
Saw it in the Assembly Building
Stood in this crowd and watched it emerge.
Saw it launch a few days later.
if it wasn't real it was a hell of a hoax.
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>>525632741
>the firmament
retard detected
opinion rejected
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>>525639354
The mylar strut is also in the shade, if we were to take for logic that the dark side of the moon has very little reflective light since nothing is shineing on it then we must assume that the whole backside of the LEM would not be visible since there is nothing to reflect light off of it. You shine a flash light in darkness and it lights up what ever the light reflects, same thing but the lunar surface does not have the same light reflectiveness as the earth.

Ai tells you this

"Comparison: Earth reflects about 30% of sunlight, while very reflectiv bodies like Saturn's moon Enceladus reflect almost 99%." Now if I were to tell you to go into a pitch black room with no light other than what you were wearing I would not be able to see you since there is no light to reflect off of you to illuminate your image. You lose the argument simple as
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FPBP
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>>525639791
>the lunar surface does not have the same light reflectiveness as the earth.
it has about the same average reflectance as old asphalt. plenty enough to get you some lighting in a shaded area.

the rest of what you say is just more of the same retarded looping denial crap.
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>>525639416
I'm not going to entertain you about the effects of radiation on film. Even if the photos were somehow real (they're not) I still wouldn't believe that any so called government sent men to the moon and back nine times between 1968 and 1972. Simply didn't happen.
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>>525639946
You do know that the lunar surface and the earth surfaces are way different right?

Earth surface 30% light
Lunar surface 0.1 to 12 % light

Big difference especially when it comes to pictures taken in shade or not. You lost the arguement simple as
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>>525640236
>annnnd subject change
lol

>>525640251
you're too stupid to know that you never had an argument. or, more likely, just a boring troll.
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>>525626142
The moon is a reflection of the sun unto the ice dome.
The sun is at 32 miles altitude. At 72 miles altitude there is solid ice.

Mark Kelly has never floated in space. The ISS id a abandonded hospitalrepurposed into a sound stage in Houston TX
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My favorite NASA hoax photo in the whole collection of nasa moon landing hoax photos. Here we have the actor or also known as Astronaut Buzz Aldrin wearing his favorite Omega Speedmaster Professional watch or also known as the fake moon landing watch. Now this watch is mechanical meaning it has no battery source to power the watch since mechanical gears move the dials on the watch. Now ask yourselves, how can a mechanical watch that requires oil to maintain the gears and intriquite parts to move be able to stand the hot and cold temperatures of a vacuum and not evaporate in the vacuum of space? Be mindful that the watch is not shielded from the hot and cold temperatures of space and that realistically his watch would have stopped working the moment he left the LEM.

https://apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
The Apollo 11 moon landing hoax

Aldrin poses for portrait / Armstrong's reflection in visor

The reason he is pointing to his watch is to show you that it would not be able to work in a vacuum of space since the oil inside the watch would have evaporated inside the watch, thus stopping his watch from working.
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>>525641103
Ai proves my point again that the watch needed oil to maintain it's function simple as
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>>525641103
>the hot and cold temperatures of a vacuum
>only outside for a short time and got time in both shadow and sun to balance heat loss/gain
>its sealed so the interior never experienced vacuum.

>realistically his watch would have stopped working the moment he left the LEM.
nonsense. why?
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>>525626142
it was live streamed from the moon, of course it was real
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>>525641269
Because the watch it's self was not pressurized, nor did it have any shielding from the heat / cold of the lunar surface. The actor also known as the Astronaut pointed to his watch on purpose so that people could question the entirety of the NASA moon landing hoax for what it is, once again you lose the arguement
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>>525641464
>not pressurized
you're waffling now. lol
was all tested on earth anyway. dont believe them? just making shit up? get one and test it yourself and prove the world wrong

> The watches underwent a series of processes called the “Qualification Test Procedures,” which included 11 different tests:

High temperature: 48 hours at a temperature of 160°F (71°C) followed by 30 minutes at 200°F (93°C).
Low temperature: 4 hours at a temperature of 0°F (-18°C).
Temperature-Pressure: 15 cycles of heating to 160°F (71°C) for 45 minutes, followed by cooling to 0°F (-18°C) for 45 minutes at 10?6 atm.
Relative humidity: 240 hours at temperatures varying between 68°F and 160°F (20°C and 71°C) in a relative humidity of at least 95%.
Oxygen atmosphere: 48 hours in an atmosphere of 100% oxygen at a pressure of 0.35 atm.
Shock: Six shocks of 40 G, each 11 milliseconds in duration, in six different directions.
Acceleration: From 1 G to 7.25 G within 333 seconds, along an axis parallel to the longitudinal spacecraft axis.
Decompression: 90 minutes in a vacuum of 10-6 atm at a temperature of 160°F (71°C) and 30 minutes at 200°F (93°C).
High pressure: 1.6 atm for a minimum period of one hour.
Vibration: Three cycles of 30 minutes of vibration varying from 5 to 2000 Hz.
Acoustic noise: 130 DB over a frequency range of 40 to 10,000 Hz, duration 30 minutes.


https://monochrome-watches.com/omega-speedmaster-history-part-1-early-pre-moons/
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Yes it's real and you are so incredibly stupid for even questioning it.

If it were fake, dont you think the Soviet Union would have challenged it?
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>>525626142
The Soviets never claimed it was fake. Given that they were able to steal US nuclear secrets they only way a moon-landing hoax could actually work is if the USSR was in on it.
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>>525634389
Didn't want to get bombed from orbit.. just a guess
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>>525641710
Does it say it was shielded from thoe temperatures? Not here on earth but for the lunar surface? Nope it doesn't, you lose but you can't admit when you are wrong can you. Lol nevermind people are waking up to the moon landing hoax and how deceptive the american government was and is with it's people. Does it say how the watch survied direct exposure from the sun on the lunar surface without an atmosphere? No it doesn't, all those tests you say were performed here on earth and not on the lunar surface. You lost the argument simple as
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>>525642162
>Not here on earth but for the lunar surface?
show what the temperatures were when they were actually on the surface during lunar morning. Nope, you can't, you lose, cant admit blah blah blah.

> all those tests you say were performed here on earth and not on the lunar surface.
in a vacuum chamber. chatGPT - can you read?
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>>525642321
Ai proves you wrong again

On the lunar surface, temperatures reach extreme highs due to the lack of an atmosphere to block or distribute solar radiation.
The lunar surface can reach the following maximum temperatures:
Daytime Highs: Near the equator, temperatures can spike to approximately 250°F to 260°F (121°C to 127°C) in direct sunlight.
Average Daytime: Across mid-latitudes, the daytime average is often cited around 224°F (106°C).
Key Facts About Lunar Heat
Duration: A single "day" on the moon lasts about 14 Earth days, leading to prolonged, intense baking of the surface.
Comparison: For context, water boils at 212°F (100°C), meaning the lunar midday is significantly hotter than boiling water.

See pic and seethe and admit you lost the argument since the watch had no shielding to protect it from the harsh reality of the lunar surface no matter if in direct sunlight or in the shade
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>>525642321
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If it's fake, how do you organize so many scientists to pretend to believe it and have no whistleblowers?
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>>525642534
like i said - show what the temps were while they were there during lunar morning. here, i'll help since you cant wrangle your AI tard.
and then you'd have to accept that the watch was neither in constant shade or constant direct sun.
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>>525626142
It was 100% fake.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/l3HIDPjzMqFk/
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>>525634480
>Because cold war was fake and gay
>>525634520
>retarded claim
some reading for you
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1930-45
https://ia600601.us.archive.org/30/items/antony-c.-sutton-western-technology-and-soviet-economic-development-1930-1945/Antony%20C.%20Sutton%20-%20Western%20Technology%20And%20Soviet%20Economic%20Development%20%281930-1945%29_text.pdf
National suicide: military aid to the Soviet Union
https://archive.org/details/nationalsuicidem0000sutt
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
https://archive.org/details/WallStreetTheBolshevikRevolution
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>>525642799
Compartmentalization

Compartmentalization is the process of dividing complex systems or thoughts into distinct, isolated sections to improve organization, efficiency, or security. It is applied differently across various fields:

See pic

The people who worked on the NASA moon landing hoax actually thought they were doing a important thing by trying to fulfill Kennedy's promise of trying to get a man to the moon and back to earth. Though the military industrial complex made sure to use Compartmentalization to keep people not knowing the truth. These people were divided up and making different things for the NASA moon landing hoax and most of them didn't even know what they were building. All they were told was you are building this part and that's all you need to know. They didn't know they were working on a project to decieve mankind fren
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>>525642857
How can you move around the lunar surface with out being in direct sunlight or in the dark shade? You sound much like that broken watch that would have been if those actors or also known as Astronauts went there. But the reality is they didn't you got owned and you should move on to something more to your speed, so you jelly bro?
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>>525643601
>with out being in direct sunlight or in the dark shade?
the point is that the watch was moving around all the time and would have been in shade sometimes (cooling slowly) and in sun sometimes (heating slowly). so its temperature would have likely remained somewhat moderate rather than reaching the max or min temp possible. but the reality is yo got owned and you will move on to another subject to avoid admitting you were wrong and retarded.
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>>525636870
did you just call him a Mormon whore?
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Moon landing hoax believers are as dumb and easily manipulated as 2020 election hoax believers.
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>>525643996
see pic >>525642534
and know that you got owned hard, I can't help it if you want to defend a lie but if you want to live in your protective bubble that is on you and not me
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>>525643301
more evidence the cold war was fake came from this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Racey_Jordan
who was a supply officer charged with overseeing the transfer of materials to the soviet union, including before the entry of the US into WWII
this included materials that could only be used for nuclear projects, while the manhattan project was ongoing and not completed
the materials were shipped from a depot called "United Nations Depot One" before United Nations existed
they also included massive amounts of machinery that had nothing to do with war but were instead designed to create an industrial economy
this indicates a plan for world government that included clandestine support of the soviet union by the US, as thoroughly documented in the sutton books I already linked
the cold war was designed to drive the world into the arms of the UN
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>>525626142
Landing was real, footage was fake.
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>>525644294
you know that you just cant address the actual conditions and got owned hard (really hard), so now you're just flailing around hoping no one notices. They will....they have and you lost. thats all on you and not me...but thanks for playing.
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all history is fake. space is a hoax to cover up the real history of the moon.
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>>525633894
I tried that irl and you can see shit lying queer.
>>525634171
We still have Concorde tech. Why did they lost the technology that gave mankind their greatest achievement? You would think they’d have those design documented enshrined everywhere in some government back office just in case. All lies.
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your watch details couldn't even stand up to the harsh climate of the lunar surface, that watch would have had the oil evaporated in seconds of being in that vacuum but since you don't know how a vacuum works then it shows me that you have no clue about what you are talking about. No, those actors or also known as Astronauts were out there long enough to asborb all that heat and radaition that was bombarding the lunar surface. Like I said the offical NASA story is a hoax and for many many reasons
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What will the excuse decades from now when some rich asshole commercializes trips to the moon and all the shit is up there?
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>>525645644
that will never happen unless those people are in a VR pod and hooked up to the matrix. Anything short of that then you are grounded here until judgement day, simple as but I doubt people would allow themselves to be hooked up to a VR pod without resisting and fighting back. The kikes and the sellouts made up that NASA hoax story to take people's mind off the Vietnam war simple as
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>>525626142
Can a moon landing be faked in the year 2026? (as in reference to the Artemis missions that will be in this year)
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>>525645924
>all the shit that is up there
Yeah you can see all of it in nevada only they have actual resorts, pools and spas and you don't just have to stay in the hotel and look at dust all day.
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>>525645390
>still ave concorde tech
we still have apollo tech
>Why did they lost the technology that gave mankind their greatest achievement?
they didn't lose it. no one said that. you just heard a meme one time and ran with it.
>You would think they’d have those design documented enshrined everywhere in some government back office just in case. All lies.
they do. there are even complete examples laying around. but why remake 60 year old vehicles instead of a new one using all the latest tech?
like Orion maybe?

>>525645485
>your watch details couldn't even stand up to the harsh climate of the lunar surface, t
they clearly would, which is why you are trying your best to avoid facing the facts.
>oil evaporated in seconds of being in that vacuum
why? watches are sealed. waterproof and vacuum tested down to 10^-6 and you're stupid.
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>>525644817
>yep the cold war was 100% legit, it was real in my head
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>>525626142
Things are not black and white. There are shadows of gray. My impression is that part of it but not all of it was faked.

Apollo XIII failure was a staged to keep the attention of the public.

Apollo XI was not televised in real time, but it was recorded days in advance. The lost telemetry tapes are an evidence of that. There also reports from amateur astronomers of spacecraft flying at dates&times that do not match the Apollo official schedule.

Many photographs have also been faked. Too many photographs and too much artistic quality for test pilots with little photography training.

My impression is that the holocaust of Apollo I crew is covering up some accident that didn't happen in earth but actually happened in space.
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>>525626557
The press conference is the smoking gun
Here’s how I think it went down
>They thought they were really going to the moon
>Trained to go to the moon
>Last min told you’re not actually going
>Bad PR for us if you die
>Forced to fake mission or actually die
>Forced to keep your mouth shut forever
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>>525646226
see pic part 1 since AI is calling you a liar and so am I since his watch would not have worked in the vacuum of space

Question:
was Buzz Aldrins watch pressurized and protected from the direct sunlight while being on the lunar surface, mind you he is in the vacuum of space and no liquids or oils can exist in a vacuum of space?

Answer:

Buzz Aldrin’s Omega Speedmaster Professional (Ref. 105.012) was not pressurized and was largely unprotected from direct sunlight while he was on the lunar surface. It was strapped to the outside of his bulky A7L pressure suit using a long Velcro strap.
Here is how the watch survived those extreme conditions:
1. Lack of Pressurization
The watch was not pressurized. It was a standard, off-the-shelf mechanical watch that relied on high-quality gaskets (O-rings) and a "Naiad" crown to create a hermetic seal.
The Vacuum: While the watch was sealed against water and dust, it was not airtight. On the moon, any air trapped inside would eventually leak out into the vacuum.
The "Pop-Out" Risk: A common myth is that the crystal would pop out due to internal pressure. However, the Speedmaster’s Hesalite (acrylic) crystal was specifically designed to be flexible and held securely enough to withstand the pressure differential.
2. Exposure to Sunlight and Temperature
Aldrin’s watch was exposed to direct, unfiltered solar radiation on the lunar surface, where temperatures reach 250°F (121°C).
Protection: The watch had no special thermal shielding. While NASA later developed the "Alaska Project" (a massive red aluminum heat shield) for later missions, it was never used on Apollo 11.
Durability: The watch survived because it had already passed NASA's brutal qualification tests, which included 90 minutes in a vacuum at 160°F (71°C) and 30 minutes at 200°F (93°C).
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>>525626565
Exactly. I think we’ve landed stuff there but never a human. That film recently ‘Fly Me To The Moon’ about it was propaganda
>of course, they actually do go to the moon in that one
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>>525646226
Part 2 of Ai calling you a liar and so am I since his watch would not have worked on the lunar surface in the vacuum of space

Continued Answer:

2. Exposure to Sunlight and Temperature
Aldrin’s watch was exposed to direct, unfiltered solar radiation on the lunar surface, where temperatures reach 250°F (121°C).
Protection: The watch had no special thermal shielding. While NASA later developed the "Alaska Project" (a massive red aluminum heat shield) for later missions, it was never used on Apollo 11.
Durability: The watch survived because it had already passed NASA's brutal qualification tests, which included 90 minutes in a vacuum at 160°F (71°C) and 30 minutes at 200°F (93°C).
3. Lubrication in a Vacuum
You are correct that standard oils can evaporate or "outgas" in a vacuum. To solve this, the watches used by Apollo astronauts were carefully maintained:
Space-Grade Lubricants: NASA and Omega used specialized low-volatility lubricants (often synthetic oils or greases like molybdenum disulfide) that were designed to stay "tacky" and not evaporate in low-pressure environments.
Hermetic Sealing: The watch's seals helped slow down the evaporation of these lubricants, though they were not perfectly airtight.
Short Duration: The lunar EVA (extravehicular activity) lasted only about 2.5 hours, which was not long enough for the lubricants to fully dry out or for the movement to seize.
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>>525626142
no, it was not

https://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
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>>525646726
the fucking things were tested in a vacuum chamber. dont care what your gay chatbot wants to say. ive given you a link to sites detailing the selection and testing procedure.

time to admit that you're a faggot that relies on shitty AI chatbots and thinks they are perfect.


>>525646906
> where temperatures reach 250°F (121°C)
at lunar noon. they werent there then. i told you that but you ignored it. it would also be necessary for the watch to be in full noon sun for a long period of time to heat up to the max temp...which it wasn't

just face it anon - you're a lying disingenuous fag.

>though they were not perfectly airtight.
vacuum tested for hours. passed the tests.

for anything more useful you need to get one and test it yourself.
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>>525626212
That could be anything, retard.
>>525626142
First landing mission was apollo 11, all footage, all documentation of that even is "lost" as per official sources, also first source of lunar soil was USSR, not USA, meaning USA could've fake their samples.
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>>525647084
>anything on Aulis.com
lol. they are good and fooling schizos and morons though
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>>525626142
Of course not, the moon is a low orbit cia spy balloon thats like 60 feet wide, you cant land people on it and walk around thats fucking retarded, also getting that close to it would crush and kill anyone because that close the tidal gravity generator will compress anything any anyone into a fist sized ball of pulverized matter
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>>525626142
It's bullshit and a meme at first glance. The people pretending it was real also pretended the psycho pandemic made sense or that Joe Biden wasn't demented when he run for president.
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>>525646226
>they didn't lose it. no one said that.
Ackshually they said they destroyed the technology. Lulz...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNDTU1zguXE
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>>525626193
This. Why does here care either way, he'll never go there himself.
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>>525626563
Grab the closest ak you can find and end yourself.
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so your telling me that NASA made a "Specialized liquid" to compensate for out gassing? Nope, much like NASA and your explanations is nothing more than a hoax, I'm not here to decieve anyone but to tell the truth, wether you or NASA wants to admit the truth but the truth is we never went there in the first place simple as

the watch had no proper seal, outgassing would have occured and that watch would have stopped. Like I said your Nasa moon landing was filmed in flag staff Arizona outside of crater lake simple as
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>>525646554
this. Once you actually look into what glow niggers are and how they act and how the jews that control them act. They were getting offed 100% if they fuck up that presser. They know it and anyone with a brain that has dug down this rabbit hole knows it.
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>>525646726
>Two and a half hours at 250° fahrenheit.
kek
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>>525648008
he doesn't even say the word 'lost'. lol. he does say its a painful process to build it back up again, which is true. Orion is the outcome and its taken ages due to changing budgets, commitments and political vasilations.
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You don't think this man can take 250 degrees anon?
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>>525648248
your own AI shit talked about a special lube being used. i didn't see that in the article i read but it could be the case. they did the same for the hasselblad cameras used.

>no proper seal
made up garbage by you. you're a boring troll.
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>>525648377
He said "destroyed" as in "we destroyed the technology"
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>>525648341
>>525648419
you fags have to determinately ignore the actual time they were on the moon (or in space) and how the suits work in order to keep your line of shit flowing. pathetic trolls.
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>>525647950
>biden derangement syndrome in completely unrelated thread
go back to facebook retard
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>>525648598
as in destroyed the massive production lines dedicated to building and testing the stuff, assembling it, and launching it into space. thats what he meant.
now you can continue you ignore the existence of the Orion vehicle, its associated service module and the entire SLS stack, with all of the production capability thats currently occupying and how long and painful its been to build that up.
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You have to actually believe that NASA made that specialized "oil" or "lube" in order to belive that the watch actually worked in that hostile enviroment. Like I said, I don't believe NASA since they are known as Never A Straight Answer and for a reason. They lie, manipulate gullible people like you to belive the lie that they baked up 57 years ago and they will never put a man on the moon and back because it is not physically possible to by pass the firmament that god put in place to keep us grounded, simple as
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>>525626142
I lean towards no we didn’t go there. Too many inconsistencies and it just doesn’t seem plausible. Also the enormous amount of psyop effort put into defending the landing make it suspect. If it actually happened they shouldn’t need to pay people to defend it.
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>>525648419
I think he probably could handle 250° for a couple minutes. (Maybe?) I also think the soles of his boots would begin to melt at 250° after just a few minutes. (Have you ever wrapped a potato in aluminum foil and put it in an oven or on a grill? Your picrel is like that.)
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>>525648824
do you think its impossible to use a lubricant that doesn't evaporate in vacuum? why dont you ask your friend grok to help you with this one? he suggested it in the first place
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>>525648901
250f is slightly above the boiling point of water. basic work boots are not bothered by that temp.
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>>525648639
no you boot slurping jew fags will accept anything the jew tells you. for me I've seen ufos. bought gen 3 night vision how they go to space. they don't show NPCs on jewtv. as for the moon stuff. studio jew trash. there is a reason no niggers are on the moon taking a shit and farming money from goyim. they can't fake it. only reason they could fake it 50 years ago is boomers are literally slaves to tv and would eat up anything that came on that 240p tube. the tech is way ahead. slaves dont get it though. there is a reason commercial airliners for slaves are still the same all these years later. still takes the same amount of time to fly from NYC to london as it did when they offed JFK. same tech. same shit. same slaves slurping consoooming anything the jew gives them. you area a culture man and should just blow your brains away or wake up.
btw you niggers left this kid nigger on the moon.
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>>525649204
look i get it - you're just a nigger
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>>525649071
NASA or Never A Straight Answer always has an excuse, special fuel, special liquids, special oils and there own special team of highly decorated actors to pose as Astronauts to film a historical event that took place in the desert of Arizona outside crater lake. Now I have shown you multiple examples of how bogus this moon landing hoax is and there is a lot more evidence that proves it was a hoax and you don't have to take my word for it. Look at the pictures yourselves and ask yourselves did we really go there. The conclusion is that we never went and never will if you believe in the truth simple as
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>>525649409
its really time that you just faced the fact that your failed. utterly. i know its hard but look at it as a growing experience. you can do it. overcome your silly and very misplaced pride this time and next time (which will definitely come soon) it'll be easier.
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>>525648782
All this moon landing nonsense is just "government" creating a civic mythology for the unwashed masses while giving the illusion that the so called "government" is more powerful than it really is. The moon hoax also functions as a nice piece of divide and conquer propaganda that gives the normies an officially approved someone to look down on (deniers) much like the covid panicfest gave normies an officially approved someone to hate (anti-vaxxers).

If you think the moonwalk is somehow real go get in a car and travel from New York to LA and see just how many things can (and will) go wrong in your relatively short trip. (NY to LA is 2800 miles.) Now, try that in the vacuum of space, with all the radiation and extreme temperatures and what not. (Keep in mind that 2800 miles into space is further than anyone has ever gone into space and yet is only one one-hundredth of the way to the moon.)

There is simply no way the so called moon landing is anything but propaganda for retards.
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Can't wait to see the coping and seething in here once Artemis II launches in a month with a woman and a black man. Oh boy, I'm gonna need a lot of popcorn.
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>>525649122
>basic work boots are not bothered by that temp.
Lol... Cool story, bro...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIsIG1utj9k
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>>525649929
I wouldn't call people retards as much as they are ignorant since they allow themselves to be brainwashed by government propaganda in the first place. You are right that the moon landing is a hoax and that people need to wake up to the deception that they are living in and thanks fren

>>525649552
Take a hint, you lost the arguement simple as
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>>525647950
You need to go back to india, prakyush.
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>>525650078
When China puts a Black! woman on the moon it's game over for nasa.
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>>525649929
the only ones trying to divide anything are the moonhoax shills trying to divide white people from their achievements shill.

>>525650154
cheap workboots are good to 140C you silly troll

>>525650287
ive taken the hint that you've been giving this whole time - that you're a boring obvious troll
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>>525650287
Thanks, anon. You too. Cheers!
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>>525626142
>was this real or not? I need to know. and dont just say yes or no, give me a real argument.

Yes. Whites are superior, and everyone else is jelly so say their greatest achievement never happened.
>churches undermined
>families undermined
>religion undermined
>marriages undermined
>cultural heritage & art undermined
>language undermined
>educational institutions undermined
>military undermined
>architecture undermined
>legal system undermined
>governance system undermined
Greatest achievement in human history? Yep, undermined too.
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I learned it's not real because flerfs tell me space does not exist
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yeah, its about time the losing moonhoaxers started just dumping their lying memes instead of trying to discuss any of them.
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>>525626142
Unmanned Moon landing was real. Manned Moon landing was faked with help from Disney.
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>>525626142
>was this real or not?
No, it was staged.
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>>525651274
>When Bob rang up John at 3am with the solution to the problem they were working on for the last 3months they took the time to write it all down for an low IQ internet troll 50 years in the future
>>525651343
yet more proof the landings were peak civilization and were on the decline.
The FUCKING INTERNET and COMPUTER CHIPS you're using to shitpost were INVENTED to get to the moon. I guess you think they're fake too, faggot.

>Pre-peak inferior humans believe it's impossible
>Peak humans achieve the impossible
>Post-peak inferior humans believe it's impossible <- (you) are here
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>>525651762
>faked with help from Disney.
This, and Kubrick.
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>>525651473
>>525651934
>Getting expert film advice on how to record the greatest human achievement from world renowned experts mean it was faked
>We are smarter than they were 50 years ago
Clearly you're not.
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Our crater.
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Remember when nasa (allegedly) crashed a rocket into the moon...

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/nasa-moon-bombing-lcross-probe-lunar-ice/story?id=8775640

Good Times!
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>>525626142
yes it's probably real
/thread
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>>525651934
>This, and Kubrick.

Yea, NASA hired him.
But you know how Kubrick was, total perfectionist prick. That's why we went to the moon, he demanded to shoot on location.
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>>525651934
The Freemasons faked the moon landings.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/6g2B7a5WnWaj/
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>>525652435
Anon. ty for link.

The truth would put most in a mental hospital.
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>>525626142
100% fake and the implications are severe
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>>525652633
The only way earth is ‘flat’ is if you’re flat too. Infact everything would be 2D and our consciousness is merely projecting a 3D reality. That is the only version of ‘flat earth’ that has any credibility
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>>525653005
"flat" I know, dumb word usage there. We're in a crater, in a much Realm.
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Our Crater.
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Here is one more example of how NASA didn't care about the props they used for filming the multiple NASA moon hoax landings. This is a picture of the Apollo 12, in this photo you can see the actor or also known as an Astronaut grabbing the experimental scientific equipment and you will notice something very peculiar. Take a closer look and you will see that the experimental scientific equipment was left out in the rain and mold is starting to form on it. That's right mold, they couldn't even take the time to properly store the props they were using for the multiple moon landing hoax missions that they would be used for filming and for photographs. How can mold exist in the vacuum of space? The answer is it can't frens.

https://apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
The Apollo 12 moon landing hoax

Bean attaches RTG package to carrybar

Like I said, through compartmentalization, to using actors and external light sources they filmed the most deceptive plot that they could ever do to decieve mankind fren. One small step of a lie, one giant leap for a deceptive hoax for mankind frens
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>>525626142
they lost every step in space race against russia and moved goal post every time..
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>>525629512
Radiation punches holes through the film and basically washes it out. We did not develop film that could withstand the coldness of space. Our film technology at the time couldn't even survive in Antarctica for very long. It would have no chance in space where its significantly colder and also has radiation particles punching holes through the film
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>>525654081
go in to detail about that radiation anon. lots of detail. they had film for use in vacuum...and in vacuum, things dont cool down for a while, especially when they are tightly packed inside storage containers.

funny you should mention the cold of antarctica though, since thats the kind of temps recommended to safely store positive slide film!
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>>525653555
Has the location of the studio ever been leaked?
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>>525655236
No, but most of the filming was done at night and most likely at crater lake in flagstaff Arizona fren. Now as for the studio it was most likely used for certain scenes but I would have to say for the majority of the time it was filmed outdoors fren.
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>>525645390
You misunderstand what technology is. Technology is not some list of check-boxes, saying yep, we can do this, yep, we can do that. Each and every specific device and system we create is technology. NASA cannot make another Saturn V, it can't make another moon lander. The process to create that specific set of systems is gone. It would have to basically do over the entire project from scratch.
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>>525655996
>You misunderstand what technology is.
deliberately, because they are trolls. theres a chance they are just stupid and like to be contrary but im less and less convinced about this one.
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Yes it is real, otherwise you have a much bigger problem, why would the USSR admit it was real if they knew it was'nt ?
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>>525626142
Are you white? Then, of course it was.
Brown/other? Then, white guys didn't do that - look at the shadow!
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>>525655514
Just watched The American Moon doc, n it does bring some good questions as to why were all the photos "too perfect" n not damaged at all?
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>>525626142

It's fake and you can tell by seeing that in the back of the picture the ground that the astronaut is standing on ends at the wall behind him in a sharp line!!!FACT!!!
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>>525657032
>"too perfect"
which photos? you have to take a look through the magazines of film and look at every shot. then you see how many were not good at all. the good ones were often cropped, rotated, had exposure altered etc to make them look good for publishing.

as for damage.....what damage? the film was designed to work in high vacuum. it was fairly slow film that didn't react much to any radiation that made it through the various layers of protection it was kept inside, and slight fogging etc can be dealt with quite well during development.
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>>525657032
for some balance to that load of crap, heres a place you can quickly get the other side of american moons 'questions'. its at least a decent place to start.

https://moonhoaxdebunked.blogspot.com/
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>>525657663
>>525657734
I'll look, ty
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>>525657843
good for you anon. you'll get the basic replies to the usual hoax claims along with links to all the sources etc, and there are more in depth place to go if you end up wanting more.
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>>525631993
looks like Yahweh
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>>525626142
Maybe
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>>525626142
ok quick rundown:
>Apollo cameras had no way of protecting the film. no pressurization to keep the volatile substances from outgassing into vacuum. no termal protection to keep the film from cooking in direct sunlight, no protection from cosmic rays leaving streak marks on the film.
>a dummy capsule with no crew was found by a russian ship in the Atlantic a day after apollo 13 launch
>the space suit had no protection against solar flares and cosmic rays. apollo 17 happened during solar maximum when the sun shoots out multiple flares a day.
>the apollo 17 men are alleged to have spent 7 and a half consecutive hours in the suit on a extravehicular activity excursion.
>the apollo 17 lander spent 3 days on the surface, continuously blasted by solar heating, while covered partially in a black tarp that gets hot, without cooking the occupants
>the lunar ascent module on apollo 17 made no visible exhaust plume while rocket engines of similar build produce perfectly visible plumes in vacuum
>the suit was pressurized by two strips of rubber, a few millimeters thick, pushed together by two zippers
>apollo 13 had a tank explosion but the crew managed to save the mission by creating an improvised co2 scrubber from nylon wrap, plastic tubes and tape.
>the reentry capsule experienced low levels of G loading due to deceleration during reentry. A russian unmanned capsule, called Zond 5, with a similar mission profile experienced 30+ G forces of deceleration during reentry.
>today's latest reentry vehicle, the Orion capsule experienced problems during reentry. Chunks of heat shield material blew off. this is despite it's use of a double-dipping reentry procedure to minimize heat soaking. the Apollo capsules used a direct entry and had no problems with either high G stresses nor heat shield disintegration.
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>>525658617
Close, a bacteriophage.
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>>525658744
you really need to do like this sensible and honest anon here >>525657843 and go read something other than hoax memes or videos. so many basic silly errors and misunderstandings in your points that i recommend you start learning something about the subject before you post again.
its not a good look for you.
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>>525658744
>the Apollo 17 lander spent 3 days on the surface
>The Apollo 17 astronauts were protected from the Moon's extreme temperatures by highly advanced thermal engineering.
It's a good thing nothing went wrong during those nine trips to and from the moon.
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>>525626142
reminder that the sense of duper's delight they felt upon faking the first moon landing was so great, that they went on to fake it 4 more times, including pretending to drive a car up there. total nonsense!
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>>525658744
continued:
>the blueprints of the lunar excursion module were destroyed because "they don't have storage space"
>the original tapes with the live footage of apollo 11 were lost because they were accidentally taped over
>the telemetry scrolls of paper (the data coming from the radio telescope that tracks the spacecraft) were lost
>moon rocks that were donated to other countries by american ambassadors turned out to be fossilized wood.
>masons brag about apollo as their accomplishment
>rockets designed today for moon missons require multiple refuelings to reach the moon but Apollo needed none.
>the Orion capsule on it's first fly-by flight to the moon was unmanned and had dummies (one of them named (((Zohar))) lol) in order to test radiation doses. the apollo 8 capsule that did the first lunar flyby did not need an unmanned precursor, they sent the first flyby manned on first try. why do they need to send dummies with geiger counters now if that was never a problem before?
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>>525626142
>how do white man go to big shiny thing in sky!?
Nonwhites think landing on the moon is magic. Their primitive brains can't comprehend it. It's literally become myth to them
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>>525659518
>>moon rocks that were donated to other countries by american ambassadors turned out to be fossilized wood.
this one is straight up a lie. that little piece of stuff that was found rattling around in a guys desk was never, ever, donated as if it was a moonrock. no moonrock has ever been given out in that form. they all look like picrel

>>rockets designed today for moon missons require multiple refuelings to reach the moon but Apollo needed none.
a simple case of SLS not being able to take enough mass to the moon. and remember - the lander is going to be much bigger and wont get left on the surface.

this stuff is silly anon.
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>>525657734
you should send that link to
i'm sure the russian space boss has no access to debunks
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>>525659068
you have embarresed yourself enough for one day, take a hint, you lost and all you have is petty arguement that was blown away just like the NASA moon landing hoax. People are waking up and it's good to see that people refusing to believe the lie that NASA has prepretrated onto the american people
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>>525659975
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32581790
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>>525659068
>silly errors
like for example?
>not good look
nobody knows who I am, only a normalfag neurotypical would care about social image while being anonymous
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If its real why does Samsung AI generate your pictures of the moon if you take one on your phone
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>>525660205
wow ok, some old russian is a schizo and/or tells lies for attention. you should feel in good company.

>>525660308
read about how it came to be in that museum. its a joke. fact is, its presented in a way unlike any other moon rock gifted to any country ever. no one claimed it was a moonrock and the only reason they thought it was is because someone found it in a guys desk after he died, and there was card in the same draw saying 'the the compliments of Armstrong etc etc'. that card was handed out to everyone who attended a certain dinner or something during the astronauts world tour.

its a mistake. a fuck up. and, like most of what moonhoaxies fixate on, retarded.
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>>525660557
ive gone through a few already.
>only a normalfag neurotypical would care about social image while being anonymous
i meant for your position while you keep the same ID in a thread.
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>>525660766
here's what forensic statement analyst Peter Hyatt said after analyzing one of Neil Armstrong's interviews

and here's the analysis, starts at about 4 minutes
https://odysee.com/Analysing-The-Astronauts-Part-1:c
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>>525660766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3-ClcZka64
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>>525661023
>highly trained test pilot and engineer didn't say 'i' and 'me' as much as i say he should
>therefore he's lying
he also doesn't think the moonlandings were faked.
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ESA built an earth-based telescope with an angular resolution capable of distinguishing between the headlights of a car on the moon
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>>525643301
was going to post that but you beat me to it.

https://odysee.com/@thisworldworks:1/33333:d5b
this won't matter to the canadian tranny, he will simply dismiss and say that ussr was a real mortal enemy while they were also doing space mission together because sometimes mortal enemies can be diplomatic or something
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>>525661689
in 2002 they attempted to use it look at the apollo landing sites. they have never shown any results of the experiment, and just claim the telescope can't be used for that purpose, without giving reasons why
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>>525626327
>t.retard
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>>525648659
There is a connection. Before Biden was elected as president, mass media didn't often show how he said he was his own husband or that he was running for the senate. Even Trump didn't say during a debate to Biden: You have dementia. People could pretend that they didn't see that Biden was demented. Then a switch was flipped inside mass media. Biden's dementia became obvious. People couldn't do as if they hadn't seen it anymore. People know the manned moon landings were not real, but they pretend they don't know it.
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>>525661900
remember, that would have been in infrared only, and even if it could have made the observation on such a bright subject, it would have produced just a couple pixels at most when looking at the LM descent stage.

these two different color pictures you fags would have called fake. there is no doubt about that.
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>french scientist trolled his followers by posting pic of chorizo and says its a star
if he hadn't told them it's a fake they would still believe it's real
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>>525626142
It's real, we went to the moon.
You're online too much if you start falling for stuff like this.
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"It would be harder to fake it than actually go to moon"
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>>525662735
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>>525662429
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>>525662735
quote from a niggy no less
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here's what wernher von braun had to say about the discovery of the van allen radiation belt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVgCO8mRJo

and apollo astronaut alan bean...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfsHYg7Yoo
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>>525626142
Astronauts are fake and Gay
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>>525626142
It's real, trust me!
>I was there on the ship
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>first time in deadly alien environment
>jump around like retards
you can tell they had no sense of danger since they weren't on the moon
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>>525662958
yeah, but they get the highest resolution using the infra red addition to it. thats where you get the 0.002arc seconds or whatever it takes to maybe resolve the LM descent stage. thats what they were trying to use to see it. cant remember what the IR module is called. look it up if you want.

>>525663201
>talking about first discoveries
>says its something they can overcome
>anon ignores everything else learned about thte VAB since the 1950s.
why are they like this?
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>>525634520
is this your first time on pol?
>who gave Trotsky (Bronstein) money?
>who gave Mao money?
>who gave JOSEPH Stalin eastern europe at a peace trety?
>who controlled the ccp?
>who gave russia wheat and foreign aid?
>who continuously sabotaged military action against ussr in vietnam with ridiculous rules of engagement meant to protect russians?

please STOP taking estrogen today!!!
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>laika in sputnik 2 was the first animal to orbit the earth
>she reached an altitude of 1,659 kilometres (1,031 mi)
>dies after about 4 orbits
>no manned mission has beaten that altitude
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>>525626193
>you'll get nothing and like it
exactly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuNJq_wI1ns
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WE ARE GOOING TO THE MOON AAAA
ANY TIME NOW AAAAA
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>>525626565
Are you fucking retarded?
What kind of proof do you expect?
A wizard capable of time travel travel that could also teleport you to the Moon so you can see it with your own eyes you fucking imbecile?
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>>525633807
>all mass has gravity
Prove it. You can’t. It’s why it’s called the theory of gravity not the law of gravity. You play in Jew fantasy
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>>525662731
>we
I haven't been to the moon.
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>>525664013
i always wonder about this one. are you claiming that they added the fiducials afterwards......because putting the plate in the camera that has the crosses on them is impossible?
also, anyone who doesn't understand that its a simple matter of the bright background object washing out the thing dark line really should get help
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>>525664257
The foreground or background is superimposed. It is a composite image
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>>525663792
RIP in peace Laika.
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hopefully this thread did some good and helped wake some people up to the lie that is NASA and the fake moon landing hoax that it is frens
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>>525664396
so why does it only disappear when its in front of a really bright object? you know those cameras just had a glass plate in them that had the crosses on them though right? why fuck around making a composite when you can just take a photo that has all the crosses in it already?

seems a retarded point that moonhoaxies invented because they wanted to get attention for having noooooticed that a cross got washed out in a photo.
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>>525664078
You ok, bro?
You seem angry.
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>>525626327
Is this the power of homeshooling?
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>>525664609
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according to nasa the air pressure on mars is so low that the sky would look blacked.
but there is no picture from all the landers showing a black sky. all pictures have bright sky. nasa shills would say the dust is suspended in the air, but after all these decades there has not been ONE day where the dust settles once. it's just perpetually suspended while there is no wind. not only that but they also say that the dust goes up to 60 kilometers. that never happens on earth with a much thicker atmosphere. shills will say it's just hecking different variable factors or something
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>>525664571
i hope that reading your evasive and dishonest posting has helped some people to wake up to the lie that the moonlandings were faked. you're so dishonest that nobody should trust a thing you claim or say.
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>>525664764
Now see if you can spot it without an indicator
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>>525626142
It happened, they landed but the footage is clearly fake. They never wanted to show the things they actually found up there.
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Objects in the foreground appear detailed and 3 dimension because this is a physical set. The background is a flat static image which is why all detail is lost merely feet away from the edge of the set.
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>>525626142
just ask yourself: why does nasa exist? what is the purpose of this government agency ? to create wholesome science reddit content ? or to create psyops ? who is known for psyops?
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You can spot the clear break in detail in virtually any photo of the "moon". It's like how video games only render high poly graphics for what you are supposed to see closeup.
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>>525665942
just ask yourself - how does this attempt and poisoning the well have anything to do with if going to the moon is technically possible or not?

it doesnt - these moonhoax shills just want to keep things vague and mysterious because thats how they get you to doubt that white people can do things like this.
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The detail fades incredibly quickly. Static backgrounds cannot cast shadows the same way a real 3d object can when flooded with light.
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>>525641878
>Given that they were able to steal US nuclear secrets
Those were gifted to them by treacherous scientists, not through theft.
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>>525666054
fun fact: the trench next to the rover is called Hadley rille and it's actually 1 kilometer wide !
now to you it might look like it's 10 meters wide and 4 deep but that's because of a hecking optical illusion that your brain is playing on you. the thing is actually miles long. the boulders in the foreground only APPEAR to be about the same size as the boulders far away, but that's your brain plaing tricks on you. The science FACT is that those boulders are miles away on the other end of the canyon. but because of the lack of an atmosphere you can't tell the distance sisters!



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