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As a way to protect the company by discrediting you.
Face it, the West is the least free civilization in history, the most totalitarian. This is becoming common.
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>>525699274
interesting concept
i personally have been targetted for bullying most of my life
since i have high intelligence and high integrity
so i naturally expose others, making me a target
its a shame really, that workplaces cant just be focused on productivity
but less competent individuals as a strategy organize against more competent ones
as a defensive orientation to avoid exposure
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>>525699616
>but less competent individuals as a strategy organize against more competent ones
This is absolutely true.
Being very productive at work leads to trouble with coworkers.
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>>525699616
>i personally have been targetted for bullying most of my life
>since i have high intelligence and high integrity
>so i naturally expose others, making me a target
Being smart and honest, even if you don't tell others how dumb and dishonest they are, just naturally offends many people and makes you a target.
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>>525701221
Every corporate consulting firm and CEO coach in the West is telling the C suite to hire teams of very average people. Having high achievers leads to questioning of C suite decisions and creates a lack of social cohesion in work teams. It's a big part of why they like jeets so much.
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>>525701253
>>525701221
I have to ask, why bother, then?
Why not slack off and treat these people like shit?
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>>525701253
>Being smart and honest, even if you don't tell others how dumb and dishonest they are, just naturally offends many people and makes you a target.

Yea. But there's also something to be said for shutting up and keeping your comments to yourself. Apparently a lot of self proclaimed smart people, aren't even smart enough to do that.
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>>525701253
>be nice person
>people confide degenerate things they've done
>shocked when it doesn't go over well
It's weird being kind sometimes and you are right. By not being a thief you are better than half the employees at my old job and by not being down with it, these people had to confront their own shortcomings.
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>>525701518
Nah, I've never been condescending toward coworkers, yet still have had a lot of shit thrown at me just for being productive and quiet and not goofing off with the rest of them.
Laziness is a virtue in the workforce. It makes you fit in and be a team player.
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Doctors, nurses, and teachers are not to be trusted. They are trained to use force against those why question the system. They cannot graduate without their credentials without passing such training.
Picrel
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>>525701510
BECAUSE FUCK YOU I WILL NEVER NOT DO A GOOD JOB SLACKER
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>>525701253
>>525701221
yes, it's very triggering for them
seeing your mastery and their lack of engagement
or avoidance
there are lots of good workers
it's just the rats really bother me
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>>525701253
Simply by existing and being sincere, you disturb the illusions they have about themselves.
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>>525701709
What do you gain from that?
Some sense of pride?
Is it really worth all that?
I mean, if you were doing your own thing, I get it, but if you're working for mr shekelberg with the rest of the serfs, you're just making your life harder.
Literally why?
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>>525701601
My mining gear used to get stolen regularly at work on the bus to the mine, where they make miners put their gear in a common compartment. Theft was rampant at that mine and each theft could cost you more than $100 in gear, easily. (Some hard hats are just shy of $200.)
Company totally ignored the thieve and just made jokes about how lots of employees "just tend to lose things on the bus" as a way of dodging the rampant theft problem.
If a company condones rampant theft by employees, the company should have to pay 20 times the value of the stolen goods, for punitive reasons to teach the managers a lesson about respecting property.
Business is supposed to be all about property, but they don't care about their employees' property.
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>>525701793
>Simply by existing and being sincere, you disturb the illusions they have about themselves.
You can tell the moral quality of a society or group by how much honesty and integrity offend them.
America has been in moral decay for a long time but is now entering the stage of moral collapse.
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>>525701253
>>525699616
I graduated magna cum laude and work with blue collar retards (respectfully) all day who like me and have my back because I have theirs.
Maybe people like me because I’m usually the one rattling the boss’s cage because I know he needs me infinitely more than I need to work there and use my power to help my coworkers from being abused or taken advantage of.
Or maybe because I don’t work in a corporate hellhole with infinite HR idiots.

Being smart doesn’t get you targeted, being an intolerable asshole who thinks they’re smart and better than everyone without being able to cash that check does.
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>>525701798
yes, i take great pride in carrying my team to success despite underperfomance of some members
it proves i value results over self comfort
so it's gratifying that my values are beyond what the
paltry system imposes on me
it proves i am morally superior yet successfully participating
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>>525701941
nope, incompetent retards try to fabricate "tone policing"
situations with me which i foil due to not only my superior performance at work
but my superior intellect
that plot would never have been generated except for their feeling of impotence
relative to my potence
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>>525701997
So, you're an insufferable autist?
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>>525702086
It sounds like you’re being targeted because you don’t know how to interact with the average person.
I get where you’re coming from, but my peers and underlings recognize I’m significantly smarter than them, but I never talk down to them and give them tasks at their level, or when problem solving I guide them to the answer so that they think they came up with, or at least helped find, the solution.
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>>525702269
no, im dealing with a small cohort of mexicans
who mask underperfomance as aloof calmness
to feign superiority
luckily, it's only a small cohort of my team, most are good

>>525702215
no, i am highly competent and flexible, others i work with
are more rigid and want to do less
or impose upon others rather than take responsibility for the dept as a whole
i am actually quite popular and well respected
due to my work ethic communication and pushing of cooperative workflows
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>>525702380
So, the reason you come off like thay now is...?
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>>525702431
because others are controlling and would rather do secret agent shit
and play their little special boy card
rather than just be a team player
i guess it boils down to low iq and ego
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>>525702380
just admit youre a smelly jeet already
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>>525702511
Kek.
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>>525702578
>>525702549
looks like there is not an argument to be found
should i say "smelly jeet hands typed these brown posts"
and move on?
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>>525699274
Of course they do it. Same type of people who disagree with you online and then send through a fake “concern” report.
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>>525701798
Alpha males have a natural work ethic.
Natural leaders have to be hard workers because ensuring the survival and wellbeing of the group requires hard work.
Alpha men always work hard at their jobs while the betas slack off.
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>>525702655
My argument is quite clear.
You piss people off by being an insufferable autist, not by being a paragon of virtue.
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>>525702764
i piss people off by performing at an extremely high level
i know because several in my organization have told me
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>>525701941
You just sound like a lazy loser who gets offended by the fact that most people are naturally better than you, like were born with better DNA.
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>>525702215
He's an alpha.
Alpha males are the hard workers of the group.
Without alphas, the betas would go extinct.
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>>525702825
im talking 100% excecution all the time
every company standard executed and exceeded
plus productive overflow flows to other depts
while dept im overseeing maintains high numbers
and follows all metricks and expectations
not many can say that
i can
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>>525702924
You base your own self-image of your masculinity on how hard you slave for your master?
That... doesn't sound healthy.
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>>525699274
Now if we can find a way to send HR to the psych ward ...
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>>525703016
Your whiny attitude is exactly why Boomers are correct about why some people (like you) are just incapable of success due to the way they think and behave.
You need to develop a winning attitude. Be positive and don't think in Marxist terms of exploitation, but in market terms of increasing value.
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>>525703016
how is this medium inauthentic
many dont own capital such as myself
and so must sell labour
this is a viable route
to self worth
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>>525699616
>less competent individuals as a strategy organize against more competent ones
Seen this more times than I could possibly count
>>525701387
Really?
All the Jeets I've ever seen are unreliable, have terrible social skills and hygiene, and undermine everyone else whenever possible. It's like dropping a grenade in a workplace.
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>>525701221
As a non-black man, can you slack and let the women carry the load? Shirk the hard jobs and let women take the lead, be a supportive follower with words not deeds?
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>>525701387
Interesting. Is there a way I can see this for myself, a website or such?
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>>525703096
So, do you get paid more for that extra effort?
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>>525699274
That is why you report the HR people to the police first, because they threatened you and said they wanted to harm themselves...remember?
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>>525699274
>>book
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>>525699274
All the more reason to make sure you a join a union.
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>>525701941
>being an intolerable asshole who thinks they’re smart and better than everyone
How ironic, going by what you said earlier in your comment, this describes you perfectly
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>>525703207
your argument would make sense if racial cartels didn't exist
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>>525701709
Your inability to act strategically is a weakness. The world doesn't want you to save it. You can be like this if you want, and you will probably get the logical consequences.
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>>525703338
logical consequence = increased sales + promotion
oh the horror
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>>525703335
Do you or do you not get paid more for the extra effort?
Your reply makes it seem like the answer is "no".
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>>525701693
Teachers a little different. They cannot use force. They cannot even touch a student. If the student is throwing chairs and desks, they cannot even restrain them. They have to protect the other students in a purely defensive way.
Which is sort of great for the teacher who has no responsibility if they just do nothing, but not so good for the students or the taxpayers who must fund repairs to all the damage.
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>>525703404
>paid
first of all, everyone has deference to me
whether it be salary managers or people in my own dept
they recognize the value i produce
second, it exposes the underperformers
the people who wont lift a finger or who want to work
away from customers or in the early am
these ppl are just entitled and snobby
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>>525703096
The business might succeed but you fail. Why? I am a boomer by the way, and over my career I've learned the blackpill. There are several times where I could have been more blackpilled and uniformly it would have been better for me if I had.
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>>525703504
So no, you don't get any material benefit from your strategy.
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>>525703391
Well if it does, great. But if done at the wrong time or unstrategically it leads to you being a target.
Anyway I was in technical jobs not in sales. Maybe sales is different.
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>>525703114
Selling labor has been normal for men since the dawn of civilization/agriculture.
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>>525703561
you lack reading comprehension
let me spell it out
there was a scheduling error this week
i told managers what my schedule should be
they immediately changed it based on my word alone
any questions?
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>>525703124
>As a non-black man, can you slack and let the women carry the load? Shirk the hard jobs and let women take the lead, be a supportive follower with words not deeds?
Not in physical jobs, no
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>>525703207
I get the satisfaction of getting the job done, an experience you cannot comprehend.
There are natural winners and natural losers.
You, sir, are a loser.
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>>525703504
btw what's wrong with people who want to work in the early am? While you're sleeping, they are working.
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>>525699274
Nobody gives a fuck about Reddit bro get the fuck out of here
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>>525703229
>That is why you report the HR people to the police first, because they threatened you and said they wanted to harm themselves...remember?
Police would never buy that. It's the word of an authority figure (HR, doctor, psych nurse etc.) against a layperson (worker, patient etc.).
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>>525703623
Do you get paid more for your extra effort?
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>>525703321
>All the more reason to make sure you a join a union.
Only like 7% of the private workforce is unionized in the US. And most US unions are collaborators with management nowadays anyway, so perhaps 1-2 percent of private sector employees in the US have real union representation.
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>>525703698
Can you eat satisfaction?
Does it keep you warm in the cold?
Does it keep you dry in the rain?
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>>525703645
What would happen if you did? Gave yourself the same physical demands as the girls? I guess the boss would get very angry at you. But if you document carefully how you did everything the women had to do, you could get a nice fat settlement if they fire you. Do it while Trump is in office.
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>swat team for HR

This guy is a straw man. He’s lying to make HR look good.
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>>525699274
>things that never happened
not buy it
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>>525703727
these people orient their schedules around their slacker mentality
am = less customers, avoiding "primetime" or highest volume of customer time
so oldtimers choose this schedule and do all their produtive work
strategically to avoid customers
seen it every day at my meat shop
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>>525703835
it AI
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>>525703325
>How ironic, going by what you said earlier in your comment, this describes you perfectly
It's usually the ones complaining about smart people and hard workers who are the actual assholes who act like "know it alls" and "better than thous"
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>>525703766
yes, in self respect and higher sales numbers
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>>525703698
I've gotten plenty of jobs done. It is a satisfying feeling.
On one job I got years of work done, then they brought in a cheaper female foreigner and laid me off since I'd handled the hard part.
In that job my boss' boss liked me because I was competent, but my boss hated me partly because I was competent. But then my boss' boss left the company, and my job was no longer secure.
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>>525703880
What store takes 'self respect' as a currency of trade?
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>>525703439
Teachers call the police on bratty students all the time, like just for copping an attitude or talking back.
Read the teachers subreddit. They use the cops as their enforcers against kids on a weekly basis.
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>>525699616
I also have a naturally high IQ, like 240 or something like that
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>>525703847
"your" meat shop? or the boss' meat shop that you work in?
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>>525703946
the store called "my self respect"
it accepts receipts of pushing oneself and overcoming
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>>525699616
Trvth nuke. Sorry about your bullying you do seem smart.
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>>525703602
The norm throughout history has been men sell their labor, women sell their sex. This is how all economies and societies function.
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>>525704025
i am one of the managers i have "ownership"
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>>525703730
>Nobody gives a fuck about Reddit bro get the fuck out of here
Lately, on certain subs, they're talking about more relevant stuff than 4chan is, where it's two or three topics in the entire catalog.
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>>525704042
thanks brother its okay i consider it refining fire part of the process
but thanks for your sympathy it means a lot
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>>525699616
>i personally have been targetted for bullying most of my life
omg I believe you.
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>>525703972
that doesn't reduce the mayhem though, and the teacher doesn't have to do shit, just call the cops. If the kid is being violent, it's not going to last the 15 minutes before the cops arrive (or a bit less if there's a school "resource officer").
The enforcement you describe, where a smart aleck student could get hauled off by the cops the same as a violent thug, is typical attitude that wants to have racially balanced punishment, there's some word for it I can't think of atm.
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>>525704113
wish to provide even one example?
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>>525703835
It's an actual book. Look him up. His book is a major seller and exposes weaponized psychiatry and how the West is going the Soviet route in this regard.
All HR has to do is say you're having a crisis and the police will do a welfare check on you, and yes, that can mean a big police presence if HR says you could be dangerous.
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>>525704172
no its literally true
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>>525701387
>>525703190
There must be a book that corperate managers are all following, like "the game" but instead of picking up chick's they manipulate their employees
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>>525704082
"ownership" is not the same as actual ownership. But it can make you feel good and get a little more money.
Do you do anything to prevent the oldtimers from claiming the easy schedules, or do anything about it? Because if not, they're just being smart.
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>>525704238
Managers tend to be psychopaths. How many normal people get promoted to management? And if they are how many can keep the job?
I had a nice shift manager at McDonalds once when I worked there in high school, and sure enough before long he was busted down to crewman just like me.
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>>525699274
I have a family friend situation where this happened. Middle aged surgeon, highly successful, covid hits, bed/office access becomes limited. He does one kind of surgery, the jeets do another, and the jeets recently took over a leadership position and prioritized their own practice. At some point he gets mildly angry and HR comes down saying he has to be psychologically evaluated if he's allowed to come back to the hospital at all. He goes through the hoops, they diagnose him with depression and prescribe him an anti-psychotic. He takes one pill, he and his wife go to bed. Two hours later she wakes up to the sound of a shotgun from their closet. Three daughters and a wife now suddenly missing their main family source of income, a talented brilliant man with at least a decade left of life to give to patients snuffed out. Total HR death.
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>>525704198
The Antipsychiatry subreddit
Psychiatry is being used extensively to get rid of or else attack the credibility of bad employees, people who criticize government, and general dissidents. Soon antisemitism will be a diagnosis landing you in a ward.
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>>525704455
Anti-psychotics are terrible. From what I've seen, I would say I took the pills but not actually comply. That is a very sad story.
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>>525704500
Is this the timeline where we're on the same side as Scientologists?
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>>525704500
or if it's NYC under Mamdani, islamophobia. See it's even called a phobia!
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>>525704614
There have to be attractive aspects to it or it would not become important and attract followers. The bad parts are a bit less obvious.
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>>525704713
I'm not saying I disagree with the anti-psychiatry stance, just that it's a profoundly ironic alliance of ideals.
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>>525704592
I think he felt pressured because he had children due to go to a top Ivy the very next school year, which would not come cheap. After he killed himself that was totally financially impossible and they ended up going to a well-regarded state college instead. And because the case is in litigation and there's a desire for heavy damage compensation from the hospital, most of the world has no idea even why he died, his obituary just says it was a sudden death inside the home. Probably thousands of HR and psychiatrist ordered suicides every year.
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>>525704455
Also I've watched some videos recently about doctors quitting medicine, and it's because they are treated like shit at work by their management. Decisions second guessed, evaluated as if they are factory workers, and if working for jeets, I am sure the process is designed to make them fail. Imagine going $300,000 into debt and ending up with that sort of job.
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>>525699274
I was volunteeraly committed after I punched a girl and railed on a girl until she was wailing like a pig who humiliated me in public.
They didn't let me leave after I admitted myself (they didnt know about the attack only that I was having a mental breakdown)
I had to trick them for them to finally release me. I was in a fucking prison, all phyc wards are aparently like that. For the week I was there i only talked to a therapist for a total of 15 minutes. Not per day. No. In total.
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>>525704500
checked
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>>525704818
Was probably being treated like shit by jeet management. Imagine doing perfectly good surgery, that you spent 20 years learning, and now jeets are nitpicking and being typical jeets but they control your career now. Doctors are very tough people, but it's starting to get to them.
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>>525699274
Sounds like sluggish schizophrenia.
Many such cases, and the numbers will grow, especially among those who label themselves as "right wing".
Sad.
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>>525704997
Well done. You were probably injected with drugs too. Did you voluntarily commit to avoid court?
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>>525699274
What is “physician health programs”?
Working for physicians or as physicians?


All of psych is parallel to justice.
Sue for harassment, defamation, and malpractice if unjustly maligned.

Everyone can grow from education. Justice never needs set aside. 80% of cases would entirely not exist if justice were served.
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Hm, I always wondered why companies were so into mental health awareness month.
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This doesn't happen. If you aren't a violent psycho the police won't arrest you just based on one person's statement. I've been a party to this a lot as a security guard, police only arrest people based on what they can prove. Random people with no prior legal/mental problems aren't 5150'd. They are jailed until they start eating their own shit and rubbing their shit onto other prisoners in jail, then they are 5150'd. Mental hospital beds are EXPENSIVE, and the courts know that. You are only sent to a mental hospital if you are such a complete nuisance to the court, jail, and other prisoners where the judge don't want to deal with you. It takes a lot of shit eating to get sent to a mental hospital, unless you can't walk or lost an eye while digging turds out of the toilet.

Whoever wrote the above is either a retard or non-american, probably both since it is reddit. Why are we posting reddit garbage on /pol/ anyway?
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>>525705261
I wasn't injected with anything thankfully, but they could have.
No, I admitted myself bc I was going to shoot myself. I recently pledged guilty to it, they have flock cameras all over the city I knew I wasn't going to get away with it. Punishment was a fine of 50$ no time lolololol. Assault-4 on my record for 3 years now but my boss doesn't care
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Oh yes, and as you get old, you're getting put on psych meds whether you like it or not. It's standard practice nowadays
>It is one of the scenarios I am most concerned about for me personally because, as you say, no matter what, there's no escaping that we all will age, and aging makes one vulnerable in multiple ways. Where I am, the rates of antipsychotics in seniors in long-term care is reaching 50%, and some 80% or more on at least one psychotropic. In my book, I quote from Human Rights Watch interviews with state Ombudspersons who oversee some of these facilities, explicitly saying that it's often to shut people up who know what their rights are.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/174nvlu/im_the_author_of_your_consent_is_not_required_the/?share_id=4RRQF6e0Ktn4aac1bkwIO&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
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>>525699274
>the West is the least free civilization in history
you are such a hysteric pussy, holy fuck
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>>525704614
>Is this the timeline where we're on the same side as Scientologists?
Are you a shill for the psychiatric industry?
This is always their retort.
Look into it and you'll find psychiatry is 100% pseudoscience: no replicable studies, no effectiveness in meds, political uses for commitments etc.
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>>525705789
If you'd bother to read a few posts further, you'd see that I do in fact agree on this issue, insofar as psychiatry is bullshit.
I just think it's funny that 4chan and scientology are in agreement on this point.
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>>525705603
That's if you go into a nursing home. I am almost 70 and in good health. I think I would decline a nursing home placement, having seen what they did to my mother despite my father's best and very diligent efforts.
Nursing homes are a scam. They take a big entrance fee, then the incentive is to kill you off to free up the bed to take a new patient in that bed.
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>>525703744
No, but they might buy the "woman scorned" narrative if your HR is a girl and you say she tried grabbing your cock. Put her through Hell, and make the first move all at once. Everyone will just think she's a horny psycho bitch.
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>>525703744
I think police are held to evidentiary standards, and it's definitely best to be first with the accusation. They can't automatically believe the HR person.
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>>525706192
I feel you on that.
I'm not quite that old, but if it comes down to it, I'll just punch my own ticket.
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>>525706247
>>525706360
An order of protection allows you to have them arrested the next time they try.
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>>525702720
Funny cuz I'm a manager who works his ass off, and I feel like I'm being exploited. I don't feel like an alpha. My only options in this retail Hell are to either pursue a more miserable higher up position with longer hours, or stay a Team Lead. I don't want either though. Since I stopped NEETing and went back into retail management a year ago, I've felt duller and much less like myself. Work is not based, nor is it the path to self reliance. Work for most people is dependence on corporate America to pay crap wages for your living. They can fire you tommorow and hire someone better without any legitimate reason. Modern work is a collectivist cult; the opposite of self-reliance (Alpha-status existance). I have lost some of my soul. I need to become wealthy soon somehow.
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>>525706678
Sounds Unconstitutional, not that that matters in a fight for survival in corporate Hell. Plus, you have to be able to prove they tried the second time, which won't be easy seeing as most half-intelligent people get the concept of avoiding witnesses and security cameras.
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This is probably someone with BPD or similar who got sent to a psych ward for being nuts and now says it was for no reason. They all say this
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This is the result of the glownigger shadow governments use of gangstalking/electronic harassment technology. They simulate delusions on a target that make it seem as if co-workers are conspiring against them and when the target confronts or lashes out they appear mentally ill because the delusions are being simulated and not actually real. This is how all gangstalking operations work and they are automated with AI. They'll frame anyone in your proximity like friends family neighbors and co-workers, whatever will work best.
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>>525707182
How did they do them before AI?
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>>525704455
>I have a family friend situation where this happened. Middle aged surgeon, highly successful, covid hits, bed/office access becomes limited. He does one kind of surgery, the jeets do another, and the jeets recently took over a leadership position and prioritized their own practice. At some point he gets mildly angry and HR comes down saying he has to be psychologically evaluated if he's allowed to come back to the hospital at all. He goes through the hoops, they diagnose him with depression and prescribe him an anti-psychotic. He takes one pill, he and his wife go to bed. Two hours later she wakes up to the sound of a shotgun from their closet. Three daughters and a wife now suddenly missing their main family source of income, a talented brilliant man with at least a decade left of life to give to patients snuffed out. Total HR death.
If the Alex Jones case was a billion dollars in damages, this is worth at least ten trillion dollars in damages.
The Alex Jones case and the Georgia election case has to recalibrate all lawsuit amounts now in equal measure. So if some harassment is worth hundreds of millions, then death is at least a trillion in damages.
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>>525699616
This is why I've come to admire the illuminati or whatever secret society is in charge. It's the only defense mechanism for such people in the modern world. The boundaries arent as defined. Can't keep the peasant outside the keep.
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>>525705299
>Sue for harassment, defamation, and malpractice if unjustly maligned.
It's your word against an authority figure, therefore almost impossible to win.
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>>525705789
It's 100% glownigger cover for brain interface technologies. Anything remotely "psychiatric" leads right back to the CIA. They use it to crush dissent, behavioral modification purposes, and to manufacture their little manchurian candidates for political agendas. Pay attention whenever one of their little hidden motive ops like the Ukrainian train stabber or Thomas Crooks is carried out. You can guarantee within 48 hours there will be someone stating that they have a history of "hearing voices" or believing things like they are chipped. The entire public is literally hardwired to believe when they hear these things that it can't be anything else other than mental illness.
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>>525706192
If they declare you incapable of taking care of yourself, they can force you into a home.
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>>525707566
It specifically forbids some conflicts of interest, like libeling you with diagnoses when they are not impartial.
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>>525706875
>Funny cuz I'm a manager who works his ass off, and I feel like I'm being exploited. I don't feel like an alpha. My only options in this retail Hell are to either pursue a more miserable higher up position with longer hours, or stay a Team Lead. I don't want either though. Since I stopped NEETing and went back into retail management a year ago, I've felt duller and much less like myself. Work is not based, nor is it the path to self reliance. Work for most people is dependence on corporate America to pay crap wages for your living. They can fire you tommorow and hire someone better without any legitimate reason. Modern work is a collectivist cult; the opposite of self-reliance (Alpha-status existance). I have lost some of my soul. I need to become wealthy soon somehow.
Tell that to HR and the police might come to your door.
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>>525707407
I imagine it was much more manual but you have to remember that the military probably had AI more advanced than whats available to the public today 40 years ago. Their ops seemed to be much more elaborate with things like Manson and serial killers back in the day whereas now they just target randos for the purpose of mass shootings and family annihilation. They automated these systems around 2015 and it's why your seeing targeted individual communities with 10's of thousands of members most of which seem rational rather than the sporadic schizo. I know this shit seems impossible to believe but trust me you are way better off just assuming it exists. The beginning "gangstalking" phase is so dangerous for your well being whereas the later "electronic harassment" phase is just fucking annoying. These glowie fucking pigs can't gaslight me anymore into laying in bed terrified thinking my neighbor is on my roof so they'll just simulate something being stuck in my eye half the day. It's fucking pathetic.
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>>525699616
>i have personally been targeted for bullying most of my life because of my high intelligence, vast fortune, and exceptionally large penis
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>>525699274
lol this game again huh. Let me lay it lay it out;
It starts with covert group harassment, usually mobbing and conditioning.
They psychologically turn the screws until you start getting agitated.
They use this to report you to HR.
You're agitated and getting reported to HR when you're the one being picked up.
The bullying is covert and because you're agitated you just sound nuts.
You have to get assessed and most mental health workers are retarded nutcases who WILL find something wrong with you.
You get labelled and pushed out.

It's an old playbook but it checks out.
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>>525707835
So, they used AI, before there was AI?
Well, thanks for clarifying?
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>>525707896
Are you daft? You realize the military was using the internet 40 years before your stupid ass was using it right?
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>>525702380
>>525702511
>>525702511
M8 you're dealing with mexicants. Don't take it personally. They're like a chaos faction in 40k. This is why mass deportation is necessary
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>>525707852
This is how it's done but it's not group harassment. They don't have the resources to commit 10 agents and undercover informants all to get some rando landed in the psych ward. It's all technology based and it's all automated now.
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>>525705378
What you're describing isn't the same as a normal psycward. You seem to be describing something involving prisoners.
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>>525708177
It's still done this way by management and workplace cliques. Not everyone is a part of a spooky intelligence operation some people are just old fashioned cunts. Not dismissing your concerns I'm just saying, people are still cunts. This method is still in play.
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>>525708091
With what hardware did they run this magical AI?
8008s?
M68000s?
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>>525708265
He's out of date.

They use Vishing and phone number spoofing to impersonate you making insane sounding phone calls to family and friends and they all freak out and report it and the police come rushing and drag you in. You deny having any knowledge of what they're talking about and even show your phone. Of course nobody knows about this tactic they only think Vishing is for scamming money and that's all Google will tell you, so they assume memory issues and that you're going manic or something because you're wound up because a bunch of police and paramedics just dragged you out of your house. So they pathologise it and now you have a label.
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>>525708177
>They don't have the resources
Oh really, Chaim. Just how underproduced are the satanic classes these days?
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>>525708293
Apparently the internet was first invented in 1969 and wasn't in common usage until like 1989 or something? I don't think most homes had PC's with internet until like Windows 95?
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>>525708266
>Not everyone is a part
Well if we add in rotations and lions club etc at a certain filtration of society it has to be at least a third. That's not counting useful idiots and friendly fire. Might as well assume it's almost all
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>>525701898
The number one piece of advice people under the age of 45 will give regarding career is to just lie and bullshit your way in. If it's a women she'll call it something cute like embellishment
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>>525699274
This sounds completely made up.
They would have to sell the company and still owe you money.
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>>525708496
A surprisingly large number of people are part of Facebook groups etc that specifically target people with mobbing, conditioning, breaking and entering to households to interfere with items etc. They certainly exist in the workplace. People who aren't intelligence somehow learn about these techniques and implement them and the problem is only getting worse. For the most part it's just the fact that people are cunts that love ganging up on someone. Makes them feel powerful.
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>>525699274
>>525701693
Its ok, theres a network for this problem. This is an issue especially in California.
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>>525699274
Women truly are evil aren't they. Like actually devilish. Starting to doubt there was ever a serpent to begin with.
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>>525701839
Imagine stealing your shitty employees gear for months, mocking him to his face, and he still won’t fuck off.

Being a manager sucks, these people are helpless.
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>>525708731
The serpent was the first simp excuse. Eve was solely responsible and Adam didn't bash her skull in and ask God for a replacement.
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>>525708654
Is there any evidence of this?
Are there leaks?
There's leaks of TS/SCI tier shit, so surely some faceberg rubes are less secure than the most classified shit on earth.
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>>525708714
I live in Australia and I've heard about this happening in California somehow? Apparently a police officer quit with one too many secrets about his departments shady activities and within days an ambulance and some cops came and shoved him in a psych ward.

Once they do that, even if they let you go, the narrative has been built. The file has been built. Mental health workers WILL find something wrong with you if you end up with them. If I recall he actually won that one in the end.
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>>525708654
In a vibrant multicultural workplace like cape town you could get targeted by the islamics or the Afrikaners or the j-ws; all of them have meeting places and whatsapp groups an shit; that's the overt part, there's also covens and lodges and theosophists
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You can tell nobody on pol ever ran a business before.

I have my good employees haze the new guys until they fall into line.
If you don't show up to work on time I am calling the police to do a "wellness" check

So many bums out there want everything without understanding the process.
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>>525708875
Mm there is but they keep it buried. You'll be hard pressed to even find out what mobbing and conditioning is let alone find demonstrated examples of it being used in workplaces.

It's covert harassment that's designed to sound paranoid and delusional if you report it. So basically it's an attempt to drive the person into quitting or snapping and being labelled unstable.

They don't want copy cats and acknowledging it openly will stop the technique from working. If you actually know about it or worse yet you're ex military and literally trained in it you can absolutely destroy people who try and use it, especially in a workplace setting.

So yeah there is evidence of this but good luck finding out about it. Oddly enough for some reason motherfucking ChatGPT can tell you all about it. Prompt it with "Tell me about group covert harassment in the workplace." then "Expand on that by telling me about workplace mobbing and conditioning".
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>>525708875
You can guarantee that the instant a Facebook group gets made for this stuff your intelligence agency has a plant in it keeping tabs. Downloading an encrypted messaging app will get your phone immediately zero day'd.


There's evidence you just won't hear about it. They want everyone to think everything is nicey nicey and nothing bad ever happens unless it's to other people on the news at night every so often oh yes how terrible. They literally don't even teach this stuff in mental health courses. Reporting it will just get you diagnosed and the perpetrators know this. A surprisingly large amount of perpetrators are very, very familiar with the mental health system for some reason. Make of that what you will.
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>>525699616
>>525701253
Have you tried being normal instead?
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>>525709070
Sounds lovely. So basically people can be divided based on race, religion, age, gender... Then pitted against each other. What a beautiful way to control people. As we see here, there seems to be a battle to get people admitted to psych wards in order to further your groups objectives.
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>>525709345
You have just proved that the conspiracy is monolithic; it doesn't get laid out in full autism. It's more like share some links to academic journos writing about anti-afrikanerhatred. Mumble about bad engelsmans at voortrekkers. Write mildly coded passive aggressive threats like "I hope anon gets the help she needs"
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>>525708981
That case may be better known internationally than in the US where the media mostly ignored it,
And it shows the old rule, don't become a cop unless you're willing to be corrupt. They'll kill you if you're honest.
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>>525704408
THIS. So much this.

The people who you want to be your leaders both don't want the position (because they know it sucks, I found that out the hard way) and are usually kept from it.

You don't usually survive as an empathetic and sympathetic person in management. Shit is either so god damn boring, or the reverse and it's nonstop drama, fights and other shit that wears your ass down. There is a reason the position attracts the psychos, they have an advantage in that they don't feel shit and can far easier bear the weight of the position. Plus it's easier to make clearer decisions not burdened by the weight of lives under you. Also why military brass will meat grind the privates.
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>>525699274
Yeah, it's all a fucking game. Guaranteed the reason Wikipedia and mainstream media push that gangstalking doesn't exist and is just mental illness of the complainent is because governments and their owners are involved in gangstalking.
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>>525709425
Everyone has to gang up. Then the gangs can be policed for tone and idealogical purity by initiated insiders; it's late stage satanism
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>>525709546
It's just a tactic that people learn about as they age from people who know about it and it spreads organically as people look for a way to control others. So yeah as you hit middle age you'll notice it waaayyyyy more. There's basically just a society of people covertly harassing each other and making each other out to be mentally ill as they try and manipulate groups of people into favouring their side. Of course nobody will admit to participating in it and teaching it will see it propagated and also lose effectiveness because it's also a law enforcement tactic. It just gets worse and worse.
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>>525704455
Yeah, that shit happened to my grandfather several decades ago. Those pills absolutely are suicide inducers. How the fuck they are still being used now IDK.
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>>525709664
The Office" on Ribbonfarm refers to Venkatesh Rao's influential blog series, "The Gervais Principle," which uses the UK/US show The Office as an allegory to explain organizational dynamics through three archetypes: Sociopaths (power-hungry leaders), Clueless (middle management promoted beyond their competence), and Losers
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>>525699274
What a retarded outlook. Don't believe that mental illness isn't cool.

You're only cool if you HAVE been inside a psychiatric ward in my book.

Bullies are afraid of mental drugs when they ought to be afraid of non mental drugs in reality.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/498647581/#498647581
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>>525709676
Gangstalking is actually a group of tactics and techniques that have been lumped under one label. If you search for gang stalking there's a ton of misinformation and people are taught that it's schizophrenia. So noticing the tactics and reporting it is a one way ticket to a diagnosis even though there's nothing wrong with you. It doesn't work if the target knows about the tactics and can accurately name them and even counter them. Of course, you won't find the actual terms etc with a Google search and if a healthcare worker can find it on Google then you must be insane. Even LLM's have started steering discussions of the underlying tactics into "You seem to be talking about Targeted Individuals, which is schizophrenia" so yeah they got to AI already too. It was kinda based at the start having been trained off declassified military doctrine...
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>>525705378
>police won't arrest you just based on one person's statement
Yes they do. Poor wheel chair dude absolutely got arrested based on a foid claiming he kicked her door in. Police are low IQ fuckwits, they will follow foid's orders no matter how stupid they are.

I think he's since then won his lawsuit against them, but holy fuck police WILL arrest you for the statement of 1 woman.
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>>525699274
This almost happened to me.
I was reassigned to a new manager. We had weekly 1 on 1 meetings that were basically like some kind of gestapo interview. Every week I had to tell him a weekly goal and how I would achieve it. After about 2 weeks or so, I noticed he started changing my goal in the Google doc, and then tried holding me accountable for things that I never agreed to.
When I called him out on this, he immediately went into gaslighting me and started recommending I speak to a psychologist. Later that day, I get emails from HR trying to arrange meetings with some kind of counselor person.

I still don't even know what triggered this attack on me. I assume they just wanted to fire me, but I was one of the best performers on my team so they didn't have much leverage.
It's very nasty to go through, because just trying to tell people about it makes you look crazy. But this stuff really does happen. The median level of psychopathy in otherwise mundane white collar workplaces is off the charts. Advanced goyim daycare tactics.
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>>525709713
>nobody will admit
There's the rub. Satanic overproduction plus dunning Kruger has let the cat our of the bag. Zoomers mock it with 67; the intergenerational passive aggressive ponzi scheme has broken down. Nobody capable will design a new system of lies. The levee broke 3 years ago
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>>525710003
Constructive dismissal has evolved. You were probably just too expensive. People who deny this stuff is happening are either in on it or rather stupid/naive.
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>>525710003
>I assume they just wanted to fire me, but I was one of the best performers on my team
Why confine motive to work performance? You could have said something offensive to some group identity elsewhere or been a white man
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>>525699274
this is a normalized thing in sweden
its called belting here where anyone calls cops they drag you to the mental asylum strap you to a bed and then let migrants rape you on drugs
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>>525705378
What's your opinion on this psyche evaluation of Epstein where he was clearly trying to act insane and telling the psychologist that he was crazy, I think to get protective custody. He failed getting declared insane to avoid getting chopped up in chow line spectacularly in my opinion.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/prison-psych-evaluation-shows-epstein-151830315.html
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>>525709087
Calling the police for wellness checks on your employees every time they're late will probably get some off duty cops come around to your house with some phone books for a severe beating after like the fifth time I don't believe you.
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>>525699274
Or these are unhinged karens who act like lunatics and get sent to the psych ward until they calm the fuck down.
You know, the kind of retards who think everyone is a nazi oppressor and they need to run them over with their car.
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>>525710034
Based Swazilander spitting truth about how psychopaths control us through high-level manipulations.
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>>525701253
yeah i’ve decided im just going to retardmaxx this year, retards don’t think they just do
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It's Soviet Union authority defiant disorder all over again.
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>>525699274
Dude that’s basic HR101. Never ever complain for work harassment, they’ll say you are a mad paranoid psychopath and HR will totally buy that.

If you get bullied at work you only have two options: either leave or go for the sexual assault charges. It is much easier to frame your colleagues for sexual assault then bullying, even them claiming you made that up yourself, that it was fully consensual as everyone witnessed, is not going to save them. Your words will prevail them since you are the victim of rape and they are the rapists.
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>>525711031
>unhinged karens whoget sent to the psych ward
On deployment. Nurse Ratched
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>>525701518
Exactly why brown leaves get imported. Don't speak up. Don't want to get deported. Hr and management aren't your friends, you only got hired because you're a coward. Always speak up and document issues.
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>>525710003
Absolutely this, they will bully you when they want to fire you it’s HR101. You need to prevent it at the beginning. Just cut a good deal and leave!
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>>525699274
Socialists don't say "are you okay?" to know if you're okay, they ask in order to justify locking you up.
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>>525710573
Yeah if you read the Australian Mental Health Act it's like something from nazi germany. They can take you in and drug you for 21 days with complete impunity. The process to prove someone isn't crazy is a kangaroo court. It's actually insane if you read it.
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>>525711631
They aren’t socialists at all you gullible retard! You are the guest in your company and they are defending the interest of the Jew that owns it. Remember you are just a guest while they are the legitimate owners and leaders
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HR exists to protect the company, not you
you guys need unions
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>>525703321
Unions are the dumbest fucks out.
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>>525701941
It’s unironically just the class mentality. The higher up the rung you go, the more likely you’ll have to work and be around highly neurotic and envious people. The vast majority of working class people are relatively chill as simply want to live their day to day lives and, thus, don’t care whether someone is much more intelligent and capable than them. People in higher professions, including even basic white collar jobs, tend to be people more ambitious than those below and will dislike similarly ambitious people around them.
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>>525711770
HR is socialist Karens.
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>>525704455
?????
What the fuck kind of pill does that, i know antidepressants do this thing where if you are suicidal they give you the motivation to do it.
But what kind of pill makes you go from zero to 00 buckshot overnight?
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>>525703338
Time mass killings then.
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>>525711905
the head of HR is never a Karen
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>>525711905
>>525712172
Listen, let’s not generalize. Let’s just say that if HR is a Karen, then you should just start to do as little as possible because you will get rises only for seniority in terms of years. Just move to another company !!
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>>525701510
Some of us can't help it. I know how that sounds, but I just do my job and get everything done so it's as smooth of a path to the end of the day as possible. I naturally just get stuff done, or I have to because I can't rely on the other retards. I don't go out of my way to be better, it just happens.
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>>525701221
I got fired from my recent retail job because I was "too productive", it made me appear "unnaproachable" to customers as if I didn't get asked five times a day where the bathroom was. I'd believe it.
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>>525699274
>the West is the least free civilization in history, the most totalitarian.
lol why aren't you in russia then?
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>>525708822
>Imagine stealing your shitty employees gear for months, mocking him to his face, and he still won’t fuck off.
Imagine thinking the manager is the hero in this scenario.
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>>525711737
Yeah it’s pretty bad. The structural and cultural issues are equally as bad. Normal people don’t work in that field. Wait until you see the apparatus for driving people into that system when they can’t charge you with anything.
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>>525708981
What happened to Dorner probably tells you enough about how Californian police are.
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>>525713648
They sound as bad as psych workers.
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>>525703121
Yes.

Despite all those flaws, jeets still net them something in the short term.
>they'll claim to/performatively do the same job for a substantially lower wage, accepting much worse conditions
>they count as "diverse" workers for all sorts of billionaire and government funded programs/tax breaks/incentives
>they break up cohesion and tend to not form worker-centric unions.
>when they do form or take over existing unions they're so laughably corrupt as a people it doesn't matter at all
>they're so cheap and numerous you can hire 10 for the price of 3 western workers, and you'll get similar work "output" (despite much lower quality, it can still mass minimal checks)
>they're so laughably corrupt and stupid they'll all just sit around "taking over" a legacy company slated for death, and sit around pretending to work as the previous board of directors loots everything they can on their way out the door, all the while bragging about taking over/conquering an abandoned, sinking ship.
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>>525703096
>just work harder for less while we auction off your future you stupid cunt
lol. LMAO even
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>>525701253
Pretty much.
I don't like doing things that go against my own moral compass. I don't openly judge others for doing it, I don't try to rat them out, I simply go
>No thanks
but that is already enough to piss people off.
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>>525699274
Most people I've met who complained about "workplace bullying" have been in fact obnoxious shitheads. They are socially inept reatrds who take the reserved reactions of the coworkers to their outrageous and inappropriate behavious as bullying. I would think that explains most cases of so-called bullying.
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>>525713804
This is all old and half of it is wrong
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> I am a narcissist therefore I am smart
the thread
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>>525699616
>shows up to work each day
>hey everyone, have i reminded you all how smart I am?
>look at me do the same job as you, but better because I'm me
>looks like I just exposed you for being dumb
>why does everyone here bully me?
The only bullying in life that isnt fair is if a person is bullied for a physical characteristic they cant change. All other bullying is justified. If you get bullied as an adult male, you're a massive faggot.
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>>525711866
>It’s unironically just the class mentality. The higher up the rung you go, the more likely you’ll have to work and be around highly neurotic and envious people. The vast majority of working class people are relatively chill as simply want to live their day to day lives and, thus, don’t care whether someone is much more intelligent and capable than them. People in higher professions, including even basic white collar jobs, tend to be people more ambitious than those below and will dislike similarly ambitious people around them.
This is definitely true.
The middle class is a much bigger nest of snakes than the working class.
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>>525713131
I intend to emigrate. Right now I'm caring for an elder relation who doesn't wish to emigrate, so I'll wait until he passes.
I've lived in the Third World, even Africa. It's much freer.
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>>525704455

Anti depressants are suicide inducers - they also open up people for bad energies. Never ever take these.
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>>525711001
The cops are my freemason buddies we own the town
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>>525699616
>but less competent individuals as a strategy organize against more competent ones
dunno about the rest of your story but this is the truth, I have seen it happen in every workplace I've ever been in
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>>525701941
>I graduated magna cum laude
so you were dumb as fuck?
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>>525714951
It's over $70 of silver an hour now
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Do these companies really not realise that their HR departments are the entire problem? HR Karens are basically extortionists.
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>>525714121
>saar that's of the olding and being wrong saaar do not redeem
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>>525699616
I have a similar case where I'm probably on the spectrum a little as we all are.
Started a new job in insurance, I was the replacement for a chick that got pregnant.
When her two years allocated break ended I have had only one of two feedback rounds, and the dumbest thing is, my boss and his right hand wanted to gaslight me into thinking I am too passive and rarely speak.
Thing is, I got assigned to a one-man task with a totally different team, which has ZERO overlap with my actual team. The hierarchies in the comp are a total mess, so is distribution of work.
To my luck, the bitch immediately got preggers again, and instead of not re-newing my contract they had to come crawl back to me to extend.
We're 5 years in, my contract by now is permanent, the bitch is back and also assigned back to her silly task. I etched out a niche in web dev and are paid handily for that since I'm formally not a developer but "business analyst" whatever the fuck that means, but turns out I'm quite the team player if you let me work with the team.
Never let your workplace gaslight you into obvious bullshit, they're like ChatGPT: They SOUND thoughtful and wise, but most C-Levels are proper idiots, and their henchmen even more.
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>>525701510
bro you should totally take the slacker pill
works best if you have WFH contract
do all your work in the office, for all to see
once I get home I shitpost on the internet or do my own projects, right now that's learning the saxophone. Much more fun if you get paid lmao.
They're so unorganized, you can take WEEKS for a simple web form config and they'll still need another month or two for testing. 1800 employed people usually means like 100 people doing actual work, 1700 people doing meetings.
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>>525699616
You clearly don’t work where written English matters
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>>525699616

> I am very intelligent

You sound like an insufferable retard and that probably explains why you have been bullied your whole life. You fail to grasp that 'Intelligence =/= success or power', look at all of the CEOs, heads of government etc. most intelligent/capable? No, generally likeable, charismatic and strategic with their social/public interactions. If you were truly as intelligent as you think you are you'd understand that you should keep your cards close to your chest, never try to one-up or expose anyone (especially one of these people) - you're the architect of your own demise, retard.
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>>525703096
bitches like you get exploited first.
I WISH I could work to my full potential at work, but work sadly isn't like the numbers would suggest, i.e. "go to work, do X for 8 hours, workload decreased, output increased"
Once you work cross-teams there's always delays, and in companies where lots of that shit happens it needs as much as ONE rampant C-Level stirring shit up that the entire show fucking stops.
And then you simply run out of shit to do. You can optimize documentation maybe or double-check your shit, guess what, that's stuff your boss won't see. Your boss WILL see when you nonchalantly save his ass in front of HIS boss, and those opportunities are luck based.
Also - depends on the boss but - if I were to roll up to my boss demanding praise for all the shit I do, he'd immediately point out le budget and le union tariff.
hustle mentality is fine if you have your own business, but in wage slave cage it's pearls before pigs.
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>>525703817
>we don't do that
>IN AMERICA
his point is you should, Cleetus
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“First they came for the Jews…”

No we know who they came for first and it’s not on the list it was the t4 euthanasia program aimed at the “mentally ill” etc under the pretense of compassionate care. The first butchers of the holocaust were nurses and doctors specifically in the psychological departments.
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>>525713865
good to see my boys plop up all over /biz/ and /pol/ now, you get many a jew seethin' and shillin' to do anything but stack physical
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Some tool was hoarding mail, 6000 items and claimed he had PTSD. Brown fellow. How about HR not hiring brown people with PTSD next time?
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>>525711001
Why can't there be some volunteer grandmas doing wellness checks?
Even the craziest druggie (probably) won't kill a grandma. Seems better than sending out a bunch of roid raging ZOGbots with itchy trigger fingers.
Oh wait, maybe that's the entire point.
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america has always been pro-corporate, anti-worker. are you stupid?
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>>525699274
Test
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>>525715236
>Do these companies really not realise that their HR departments are the entire problem? HR Karens are basically extortionists.
I think the companies know full well and like how HR rolls. In fact it's probably the companies training HR to be this way.
HR doesn't get to act unilaterally against the company.
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I have met zero ordinary people who got locked up in insane asylums because of a conspiracy.

I have met plenty of legitimately and obviously mentally ill people who have gotten locked up in insane asylums for very good reasons, but who believe that they are perfectly healthy and are just being persecuted by some conspiracy.
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>>525699274
>generic, high-level summary of the events
>zero details from either side of the story to allow for better assessment of what happened during the interaction with HR
What am I supposed to make of this? Did the guy have a history of mental illness? What did he do or say during the HR interaction that they felt warranted calling the police? What did the hospital record a show for alleged behavior to justify the psychiatric emergency? Let me know when these details are available.
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>>525715146
This just measures the rate of salary devaluation. In Europe it’s worse
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>>525715857
>I WISH I could work to my full potential at work, but work sadly isn't like the numbers would suggest, i.e. "go to work, do X for 8 hours, workload decreased, output increased"
You need a trade to have this kind of work.
Office work isn't real work. It's made up.
Like 15% of the workforce, i.e. the blue collar class doing labor, is carrying the rest of the economy in the advanced countries. Plus all the foreign factory slaves for our imports
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>>525715938
>No we know who they came for first and it’s not on the list it was the t4 euthanasia program aimed at the “mentally ill” etc under the pretense of compassionate care. The first butchers of the holocaust were nurses and doctors specifically in the psychological departments.
Psychology has a deep history with eugenics and human experimentation and mass murder and sterilization.
Plus it's not even a science. No psych med can be proven to be any more effective than a placebo. No mental illness has a physical test. Psychiatric studies are repeatable around a third of the time, which by the standards of a real science like physics or chemistry is the same as reading tea leaves.
Psychology and psychiatry are like divining spirits survived as a profession into the modern day.
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>>525699274
>I asked the guy why SWAT was called on him he said he's innocent!
If you don't know what the argument with HR looked like then you can't really judge this. I'm not one to defend HR but let's not pretend people can become unhinged
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>>525715938
>The first butchers of the holocaust were nurses and doctors specifically in the psychological departments.
I am beginning to think, in light of this kind of stuff and covid, that modern medicine should be entirely defunded by the state, meaning not one unit of currency in any country should be taken from taxes and allocated to modern medicine. It's not about healing at all. It's about totalitarian control through pathologizing any behavior or way of thinking that conflicts with the elite agenda.
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>>525699274
Psychiatry has always been a tool of control rather than a legitimate branch of medical science, and you can see this plainly by examining the underlying theory, diagnostic criteria, and treatment methods employed in psychiatry.

Firstly, the theory behind psychiatric “illness” is that there is a “chemical imbalance” in the brain causing aberrant behaviour, which impedes the individual from functioning within the society. The solution to correcting this chemical imbalance is to take psychiatric medications, which change the chemical profile of the brain in such a way that corrects the imbalance. However, it is admitted by psychiatrists that there is no physical diagnostic method—there is no baseline “balanced” brain against which to compare an imbalanced one. In other words: we cannot make a distinction between a depressed brain, an anxious brain, an inattentive brain, and a “normal” brain with a scan. Mental illness is diagnosed by comparing self-reported symptoms against a checklist, and is treated by administering drugs, which modify behaviour by tweaking the brain’s chemical makeup, which in turn alters the subject’s perception and judgment. That change in perception is what causes the subject to modify their behaviour, and we decide that the patient has been “cured” by observing the change in behaviour in a direction contrary to the “pathological” behavioural patterns that earned him the diagnosis—again, not through any sort of direct physical diagnostic methods like brain scans.
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>>525701798
Anon you live for nothing but your next paycheque.
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>>525718373
>Why can't there be some volunteer grandmas doing wellness checks?
>Even the craziest druggie (probably) won't kill a grandma. Seems better than sending out a bunch of roid raging ZOGbots with itchy trigger fingers.
>Oh wait, maybe that's the entire point.
The point of a welfare check is to intimidate and silence, or teach a lesson, to the recipient.
It's functionally the same as being accused of a crime except with psychiatry, you are guilty until proven innocent when someone accuses you.
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>>525719157
It's in the book. The whole thread is an interview for his book.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/174nvlu/im_the_author_of_your_consent_is_not_required_the/?share_id=4RRQF6e0Ktn4aac1bkwIO&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
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That's the thing...you don't have to say shit. your work speaks for itself and everyone can see the contrast. This world is lies. It is setup to use the stupid to feed the rich. Both the stupid and the rich fear anyone who can see and is honest because it throws their own failures and corruption in their face merely by example. You can see the same dynamic in domestic situations where one person is organized/efficient and one is not. The mere attempt at optimization or efficiency constantly makes the non-efficient person aware of their lack. Being honest, forthright, blunt and efficient is a death sentence in most of the western world. Only exceptions I can think of are one of these types working for themselves in some capacity.
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>>525699274
I have a friend that had co-workers literally just leaving work for over an hour every shift and he was told to stop complaining about it after repeatedly asking for some basic fucking consequences for extreme and blatant wage theft.

Always remember that the average person is a disgusting immoral freak. Aristocracy that demands intelligence and complete disconnect from normie culture and people is the only sane form of government
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>>525719693
>buy the book
I'm good.
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>>525699616
You sound and format your post like a schizo retard
>22 posts
oh lmao
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>>525719157
There won't be. That post reads like it was written by a high functioning schizophrenic. I worked in a field for years dealing with the disabled and indigent and saw that exact archetype many times. They present a somewhat compelling story to start but the more you dig and pick at it the more they lay their hand on the table and you realize their grasp on reality is fairly tenuous and they're suffering from delusions of persecution. To the extent any of that story is true I can almost guarantee he flew off the handle and tried to strongarm his way to the outcome he wanted from HR because he sensed they weren't buying what he was claiming regarding some intraoffice beef that he also very likely was ultimately responsible for starting.
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>>525719568
In a broader sense, from a survival point of view, we can indeed redefine mental illness very similarly to its present definition—since there’s no way to prove that there is such a thing as a chemical imbalance because there’s no way to show what a “balanced” brain looks like, we can more broadly consider mental illness as a set of pathological behavioural patterns which impede the organism’s ability to survive and thrive—self-destructive behaviour. In this sense, the definition is much more reasonable from the medical perspective. However, it becomes immediately clear how this definition becomes murky when society is involved. A society’s laws and customs are largely arbitrary and vary from one culture to another, from one state to another. Since individuals’ survival is not only contingent on their capacity to live “in the wild” but also to “survive” within the society—to chase the reward mechanisms offered by the society, and to avoid physical coercion imposed by others—an ethical issue arises. Is a person diagnosed as mentally ill due to being unfit to function in the society truly “crazy”? Could this person survive and thrive, in other words, in the absence of social pressures? When we look at it from that perspective, we can reinterpret a rise in “mental illness” rates as a society that becomes increasingly less accommodating to the majority of individuals.
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>>525701510
Because i'm white and not Indian.
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>>525719568
The "chemical imbalance" idea was a marketing strategy made up to sell Prozac in the late 1980s. It worked spectacularly despite being fiction, and people mostly still believe it.
Psychological distress (I wouldn't even use their term anymore and call it mental illness, which now has nothing but neurological connotations) is probably always a case of abusive social relationships and abuse by society. I've known many who've suicided. In every case they were normal people going through serious, unbearable shit, with two factors universal: low-status work or no work, plus extreme emotional abuse and coercion by their wives/girlfriends over custody of the kids. And one guy had a horrendously vile father who took out his rage on him since he was a baby, then got into an online relationship with a Swiss woman who liked to make him feel jealous to boost his ego until she said she's been cheating on him for fun and he shot himself.
"Mental illness," really just psychological distress, is, in my observation, always a result of societal sadism. But people, and society itself including its authoritative institutions, will never admit that there are so many sadists out there, especially in positions of institutional power, taking their psychosexual desires out on people they can get ahold of, like foster parents with foster kids or rotten biological parents with children they despise or psychiatrists with patients they can fuck with for kicks or managers of HR folks who get a sexual charge out of abusing their underlings.
Yes, sexuality is the root of all of someone's personality and character, since reproduction is the only reason we exist, the purpose of all being, and so sex shapes everything else.
Which means people who are sadistic end up not just being kinky in bed, but because sexuality permeates the whole personality, sadists have to behave sadistically in most of their relationships, even in their official roles, to satisfy their needs.
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>>525704211
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sluggish_schizophrenia#Use_against_political_dissidents
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>>525719723
>That's the thing...you don't have to say shit. your work speaks for itself and everyone can see the contrast. This world is lies. It is setup to use the stupid to feed the rich. Both the stupid and the rich fear anyone who can see and is honest because it throws their own failures and corruption in their face merely by example. You can see the same dynamic in domestic situations where one person is organized/efficient and one is not. The mere attempt at optimization or efficiency constantly makes the non-efficient person aware of their lack. Being honest, forthright, blunt and efficient is a death sentence in most of the western world. Only exceptions I can think of are one of these types working for themselves in some capacity.
This is true. Societies and all institutions, down through history from the very beginning, are designed to be inefficient and uncreative and just maintain the status quo: keep things the same forever.
Every time a major conquest spree occurs, like Alexander or the Romans or Genghis or Napoleon or the 19th century European empires, it's because the ruling class of the expansionist society decided, against its usual way of doing things, to open up meritocracy a bit, which automatically gives a huge advantage to that society because every society is naturally programmed by its class structure to be aristocratic rather than meritocratic and to crush innovation and different ideas. But elites hate having to open the doors to the lower orders, so they only introduce some meritocracy when they feel it's utterly necessary, and then they shut it down as soon as possible.
Athenian brilliance, Roman conquest, Genghis taking Eurasia, Napoleon smashing every European country repeatedly, America conquering from sea to shining sea, the Renaissance beginning in the Florentine Republic, modern capitalism and shareholder companies being invented in the Dutch Republic, the Industrial Revolution in Britain in the late 1700s:
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>>525707584
Crooks glowed so hard.
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>reddit
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>>525704238
>There must be a book that corperate managers are all following
It's LinkedIn, the drivel they feed each other all day over there would drive any sane person insane.
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>>525720585
all only happened because the ruling class of the society decided to let men of ability have a chance for a little while instead of running everything according to the direct interests of men of high birth. That's it. That's how all periods of innovation and scientific/cultural progress are born: when the doors are opened for a while to enable innovation.
We had a brief burst of meritocracy in the postwar era that began to be shut down in the 1970s after plebeians rocked the boat too much and the elites decided it was time to end meritocracy because they had achieved their objectives from it, or at least did well enough and now the risk to themselves was becoming too great.
All of a society's success and innovation is determined by how comfortable its elite feels in allowing men or merit to have a chance at the wheel in place of their own sons for a while.
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>>525720585
I call it "being Enkidu." Problem is you end up living like Diogenes or Oscar the Grouch.
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>>525720220
What would you say about the author's claim that children are often put on psychotropic drugs and virtually no research has been done on the long-term effects of these drugs, especially when taking them begins in childhood during formative years for the body and brain? Would you agree with the author that this is suspicious, like powerful interests don't want to know the long-term effects of psychiatric drugs on people, especially children?
Of is wondering about such things the thoughts "of a high-functioning schizophrenic"?
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>>525704614
So there's one thing Scientology is almost completely right about. I'm not going to stop breathing air because jews do it too.
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>>525721089
>What would you say about the author's claim that children are often put on psychotropic drugs and virtually no research has been done on the long-term effects of these drugs
He's probably right about that. I generally agree with the claim anyway. I'm not talking about the author himself though, I'm talking about the story he's relaying, certainly originally from the exclusive perspective of the aggrieved high functioning schizo. After your first dozen or two cases where you hear the same kinds of yarns being spun, then getting to see the dashcam/bodycam/cellphone/ringcam footage of what actually objectively happened when the exhibits come in, it becomes increasingly easy to sniff this kind of person out within minutes of interacting with them. I spent just over 10 years doing that work so my nose is pretty well calibrated.
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>>525699616
To be fair, you have to have a fairly high IQ to appreciate Rick and Morty
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>>525704614
You don't want to join a cult that helps the 80% enslave the 20%. That ia the entire basis of their religion, "KSW".
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>>525720783
I think you have it exactly right.
Note also that despite the Wild West romantic mythology, people wanted the West tamed and domesticated as soon as possible, so that not even two generations after the first "mountain men" trickled into the Rocky Mountains, women were relocating to towns out west and the cowboys and other wild men had to be destroyed. Americans like to pretend they liked the Wild West, but really they hated the Wild West and got rid of it as soon as possible by ending its wildness.
And yes, incels are slated for extermination, and both the left and right will support it. Both left and right have an interest in the status quo. The right wants more power to the corporate elite while the left wants more power for women. That's their main goals, and both these goals are threatened by untamed men.
A rebirth of monasticism might be a way to make incels harmless, but monasticism cuts against the capitalist-business ethos and would take working age men out of the workforce and put them to contemplation, prayer, and subsistence farming to maintain their monasteries, which doesn't turn a profit for society's owners, so they won't allow monasticism on a large scale and instead will just eliminate men who refuse to hook up with today's women.
Extermination will likely occur through warfare and conscripting men without girlfriends/wives.
Much the same occurred in World War I. Despite all the usual explanations of the war, a big motive was to decimate the younger generation of men at the time, who were pushing too far in radical politics and had to be neutralized.
All the major powers in the war agreed on the necessity of destroying the lives and morale of their young males, who had become very politically active. And it worked. They became the "Lost Generation" and never went on to do much politically after the gassing and slaughter in the trenches.
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>>525699616
>its a shame really, that workplaces cant just be focused on productivity
beautifully succinct, this is what I deal with as well
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>>525721662
Historians like to say the generals didn't understand that modern weapons would get millions killed using 19th century tactics. This is hard to believe. European military academies paid a lot of attention to the Second Boer War and the Russo-Japanese War and what modern weapons like artillery and machineguns did on the battlefield.
A more plausible explanation is the elites of the time did not care a whit about tossing millions of young men into the meatgrinder to be maimed and killed and probably desired this outcome as a way to prevent revolution. Hence a million young men died in the first four months of the war, before Christmas 1914. It's hard to explain a million dead so quickly just by unwillingness to understand that machineguns and artillery can mass slaughter wave attacks, since any idiot could understand that sending 20,000 men to charge machineguns and artillery head on is going to end in slaughter.
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>>525701775
Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.
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>>525699616
>being bullied
>as an adult
Forget the Romans, look to the Greeks. I don't understand how a grown ass man can't handle "bullies."
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>>525722009
woah he made it in the UK paper! It was a good post. Some of my posts have been in the research paper too
(there is a Sneed bot/person that marks /pol/ comments for research archiving or glowie training materials, that's who this is say Hi, it's basically a "good post" award)
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>>525699616
Are you me?
Never thought about it as bullying though as I’m not a pussy and a BIG GUY, but work normie niggers do like to gang up against me cause they are lazy useless faggots and idk how to act like a normie retard
I dont even work anymore cause its a waste of time around these retards. I make more money day trading and dont have deal with monkeys
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>>525722043
Plato, in the Republic, also talks of how the warrior caste and the intellectuals (real intellectuals, not sophists) are cut from the same cloth.
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>>525709372
I larp as a Normie and it's fucking exhausting.
It feels like having a split personality I hate knowing the exact geopolitical reasoning behind someone's problem or question and having to just "damn that's crazy" the response so they don't think I am psychotic.
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>>525715825
Retards with this attitude need to die first. Traitors.
The universe is waiting for humanity to get out of the mud, but you want us to stay?
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>>525722235
It was the natural conclusion for Greeks. For as much as a thoughtful mind is worth a strong arm is worth just as much. It's puts your mind in a better place if nothing else.
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>>525699274
Why are HR bitches allowed to get away with swatting someone?
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>>525701839
That's just how companies work. I am over company phones where I work. All employees when receiving a company phone must sign paperwork stating they are responsible for the repair cost if damaged, minimum $300 per repair even if repair only cost $100. Half the people with these phones are upper level management and whenever they are broken then HR elects to waive the repair fee. But when the lowly night shift maintenance worker breaks his phone while crawling to fix an issue in the building then he is responsible.
All that company policies exist for is to protect the company. Unless you had evidence that company was covering up who stole it to protect them and exposed it to media or with a lawsuit then nothing will change.
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>>525722194
You can try to act like a normie all you want, but if you aren't one, they'll smell it on you and know you're acting, which could make them more hostile.
Your approach is the right one: avoiding regular society. Our society sucks today anyway and is degrading rapidly. I think we're moving from a relatively slow moral decline into a final stage of moral collapse here in the West.
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>>525722486
>Why are HR bitches allowed to get away with swatting someone?
Anyone can get away with it.
You just call in an anonymous claim about a person to the police and say the person was behaving erratically and seemed distressed or dangerous or something. The police are not allowed to identify the informant when you do it this way.
You can do this to anyone you want, for any reason (just make it up), in the US.
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this, /x/ has a good thread on havana and v2k every three weeks or so
great thread today guys. Wish I was here earlier. I have some testimonies. Did a check in to a behave health center after I snapped at a customer (told him I was going to write his name on my forehead and lie in the middle of the busy road) [spoiler] his name was Chad LOL cant make that up [/spoiler]
I sat with my mom in a grey drab waiting room with niggers and 50s old freaks. I had a notebook with fairly articulate bullet points on my problems, what I had been experiencing and going thru (lack of eating, schizo effective reactionary conversations with self, rumination depressive SI, body issues) and I was really just total long night of the dark soul and I wanted to talk to someone, finally I would. I got a nurse my age who I had to strip down in front of, smock and grippy socks, and was sent in the hallway. Not a room. It was a dark hallway with flickering lights, four and five police/security and a horde of mentally nuts. The rooms were all full so they gave me a mattress on the hallway. I lied down for 2 hours before I was seen. The blonde Dr. took one look at me and sighed almost disappointed or impatient, she could tell I wasn't like one of these crack niggers or prostitutes or fentheads I'm just another white guy raped to death by fake jobs and my "fellow countryman". She let me out an hour later, kept my job, went back to my apartment without any real plan or changes other than agreeing to do weekly therapy
Had that therapist after that for a year and half. We did great work actually. Young guy, helped me integrate the parts of me that were fucked up or askew. I actually am grateful for him, but he DID try me on Lorazepam for 4 months and that was a very difficult to even remember time in my life. But even then I understand he was sort of a "handler" I have had them earlier in life from GATE
Sorry if this wasn't articulate, haven't ever really attempted to type it all out.
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>>525722623
I never expected the theft to stop. It was common knowledge (and not just affecting me, but lots of workers there) and management didn't care. It was clear nothing would be done about it.
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I think you're on to something here. WRITE THAT DOWN!
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>>525701510
>Slack off
Been there, done that. You go insane. You know you are wasting 8 hours (minimum) of your time doing shit you don't care about.

>Treat people like shit
Not worth it. There are faggots in America who get off and drama and gossip and will yap to everyone everywhere. Suddenly you can't get a job because Becky or Garrett blabbed to half the town.
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>>525699616
>workplaces cant just be focused on productivity
Lol. Lmao even. Work is the last thing a wagie wants to do at work and I don't blame them at all.
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>>525703698
Working harder for no increased pay makes you the loser.
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>>525699274
Yeah, but our enemies apparently hate us for our freedom.
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>>525699274
Consider how the majority of people live only for hedonism I think we should consider just hooking people up to drug benches. They can pay to just spend all their free time getting doped up instead of being a nuisance on the streets or wasting up bandwidth with their meaningless posts. Just let them drown in pleasure and get them out of the way.
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>>525699274
Gay Reddit nigger
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>>525699274
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry?wprov=sfla1

Been warning you fags about this for years. Never ever EVER let anyone gain DPOA over your medical decisions. Research the criteria for "reduced capacity to consent". Not understanding this is how you wind up at a "long term care facility" covered in cigarette burns and being forced to fight other "patients" for the entertainment of the nigger orderlies.
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>>525699274
Now that would make me psychologically unstable. To the extent I'd kidnap the HR cunt and torture the bitch to death with ballpoint hammer and a blowtorch. If you're going to commit me for no reason, I'm going to give you a fucking reason.
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>>525699274
>>>525706192
> If they declare you incapable of taking care of yourself, they can force you into a home.
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>Anonymous (ID: +UhJp41T) 01/11/26(Sun)07:28:40 No.525707719▶
> >>525707566
well I can comment on this, I'm a physician who left the field for industry. Nasty bullying. So toxic I couldn't help the patient which was my goal.
When I told them apologetically I was leaving (trying to leave on good terms) they said "oh you need a health check". So I went there and they give me a PHQ-9. What is that? Well a PHQ-2 is 2 questions to see if you're depressed. if you answer those wrong, you get the PHQ-9 to see if you need to be institutionalized. So their starter? Their starter was the PHQ-9. They were sure I was depressed.
So I meet with the doc, told them straight up I'm fine, just the workplace is toxic as fuck. The doc was thankfully honest and was like "yup, makes sense, you seem fine to me" and that was that. No further issue.
HOWEVER that doesn't matter, it was never about that. Now an issue like this - if I say "you're toxic I'm leaving" and the admin says "okay just do this one check" it's much deeper than that what they're doing. They just tanked your whole career. The fact that the admin said "urgent psych check" is a black mark on your medical practictioner record basically forever. It has nothing to do with your well being - it's an extension of bullying basically fucking over your career.
true story highly relevant to the people in these stories -- https://www.idealmedicalcare.org/how-hospitals-censor-doctor-suicides-silence-survivors/
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If my boomer has another dementia breakdown mental episode I am calling to have him involuntarily committed.
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>>525699274
Yeah no shit sherlock the psychiatric institution is used to suppress dissidents, dissidents being defined as anyone the normies don't like
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>>525716011
Checked
>Now
/SETF/ has been here for a while
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>>525701387
The worst part about this bullshit, for guys like us, but also why its such a good gatekeep, is because the average retards will fight you to the death because they are entirely certain they got that spot not by random chance, but because they are actually superior themselves.
I dont know about the rest of you but born in '00 in california and it was very noticeable a disproportionate amount of managers I've had have been straight up retarded black nigs
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>>525699616
you are not as smart as you think you are
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>>525701941
Blue collar people are different, these is a white collar feminized society phenomenon. I know what you mean because I was the same path as you academic achiever to working with mostly blue collars
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>>525699616
Eventually guys like you will learn that the workplace only pretends to care about productivity and competency. The workplace is all about how you make people feel. If you don't understand this you will get fucked.
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>>525715483
god I worked in insurance for 1 year and all I can say is the entire industry needs to die and be replaced with AI
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>>525701510
DO
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>>525722289
people prefer to be comfortable, what do you expect. Its only like 1 in 20 people who actively try to seek out new knowledge as an adult and just that small group alone has discovered everything in history
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>>525699616
>since i have high intelligence and high integrity
>so i naturally expose others, making me a target
However much bullying you received, you deserve more of it and with more brutality
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>>525699616
I'm pissing in your coffee tomorrow morning, Poindexter
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>>525726353
They felt this way about Jesus too and eventually killed him for it
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>>525726490
I am having you injected with mrna mystery goo and fake mutated spike proteins until your organs give out.
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>>525702720
Bullshit. A lot of assholes are promoted to manager roles simply put because they are bullies and assholes and that's a well known fact. Everyone knows this and that's always been well known by everyone with half a brain. Truth be told, if the employers could force us to work 12+ hour days every single day of the week, they would have, and that's a fact. The only thing stopping them from doing that, are the workers, themselves. That the workers managed to pull themselves together just enough to secure the 8 hour work-day and the weekend, was a huge win for them. And still, the employers constantly subtly pressure the workers to work more and longer hours. Fuck the bosses, they're all evil scum and always have been, simple as. And i'm no commie, i'n just telling the simple truth.
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>>525703972
I bet the students are all niggers, though..
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>>525703972
The cops don't want to put up with that crap.
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The workplace is based around a shared fiction. Breaking that fiction breaks consensus reality. And like a bad twilight episode, if you break a fake reality, they declare you never could perceive reality to begin with
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>>525708731
It wasn’t a serpent. The tree was he world tree and Adam was Ymir the world giant, or Atlas if you will, the serpent was Leviathan the world serpent. The original story is mythological and cosmic
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>>525709087
All you're showing now, is why we desperately need to go back to individually owned one-man businesses in the west.



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