I wont' let myself be fooled any longer.

>>525736797
Soviet russia wasnt real communism and they themselves knew it. Communism as it was laid out in the various manifesto's of disconnected intellectuals to the real hardship of nature hasn't ever worked. all these traits of communism that you've displayed are ways to cover for their shortcomings by imposing strict hierarchy and duty for the failing system. Yes, you cannot be a gay tranny faggot in a country that makes your survival more difficult. But you cant be anything that opposes their political, social and economic power either.

>>525737193
Don't believe I can take a "not real communism" post seriously. You said many things here, most of which were based on nothing but your own personal proclamation.

>>525737334
"Not real communism" is a meme because its what every failed communist state says. The abolishment of fiscal currency is one of those ideas that soviet russia was planning on. yet, the european and american proletariat did not overthrow their capitalist leadership and the soviets still had to rely on currency and taxation of the working class. Their 'state' failed before they could implement 'real' communism as outlined in marxist doctrine.

Read more faggot.

>>525738106
Not one word of this is rooted, on any level, in reality. It's just your own pseudohistory and personal proclamation about communists, whom you obviously despise.

Certainly, I can tell you the "abolishment of currency" is not a communist idea, nor one communists support. You're misrepresenting the people whom you hate for your own political purposes. You're writing pure fiction.

>>525736797
It's actually the countries that are both that are the most fucked.

>>525738490
>>525738106
FYI just for the record, communists have often written about post scarcity societies, in which things could be radically different. Its those writings you use to misrepresent us and our views, which have nothing to do with any of the shit you're saying.

>>525740191
Huh?

>>525736797
communism would work if people weren't naturally greedy and we behaved more like ants

we would literally be on multiple planets already if we behaved like ants

>>525741119
Isn't communism kind of the political system people implement when they decide they no longer want to put up with wealthy being greedy, or exploitative?

>>525736797
Well this is the problem: you're on the left and I equate the left with faggotry & mentall illness, so you know what you need to do right? You need to kick all retards out of the left before even trying to talk to me about more left wing shit.

>>525741908
>Hello, yes, I am brainwashed by the media, and I will continue to be brainwashed by the media. Nothing you can do about it, lefty.
OK. Your decision. Keep making a fool of yourself then.

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>>525736797
>heterosexual, ethnically-homogenous, 0 immigration
I N F I N I J E E T S

>>525736797
Cuba and Vietnam are fucking gay, don't lie

>>525740303
>communists have written
>post scarcity societies
>misrepresent us and our views
>THAT is not REAL communism despite writing about, trying to implement it several times. failing to do so, And now YOU'RE Misrepresenting us because
"Not real communism, bro"

The amount of brain damage you have to have to not contradict yourself in a single post is truly remarkable

>>525744378
But you were the one who was saying "it's not real communism." Not him.

You're doing like a backwards, inversion thing. Where you make it seem like other people were the ones saying what you've said.

COMMUNIST SOCIETIES ARE GAY!
THEY ARE DIVERSE ETHNICALLY!
THEY HAVE IMMIGRATION!
THEY ARE JEWISH!

>>525738106
>Not real communism
I agree. If communists always fail to create communism why do they keep on trying this impossible and ridiculous mission? We are still slowly recovering 80 years after communism arrived in my country.

In the West leftwingers are the most gay

maybe they don't want to stand in line half the day for a loaf of bread

>>525746204
This is the irony of discussing communism with communists.
>Soviet russia wasnt real communism and they themselves knew it
This is a preemtive strike you should understand when debating commies to figure out who has the intellectual ability to discern opinion from what was written about the soviet union from people presented in the gulag archipelago.
Theres no inversion or misrepresentation of my opinion, I havent properly given any except to the text of the OP

>>525736797
communism is the system jews created to rule over goyim. it's essentially a shepherd ruling a mindless flock of animals-- they view goyim as human-shape animals that god created to serve them-- on the scale of nations. "real communist" countries don't exist, but when they were attempted they were ruled by jews using jewish values, which is partly why they didn't last very long. all extant "communist" countries are just authoritarian pseudo-capitalist ethnostates with zero jews. the communist aspects of their societies still don't work, which is why all of these places are shit holes, but the capitalist aspects and lack of jews manage to hold them together.

>>525747248
You dont make any sense, dude. You keep saying "soviet russia was not real communism", then pretending other people were the ones who said it, when they weren't. Makes no sense. Directly contradictory.

>>525747294
But do you have a concrete, practical comment you make? Other than to be like "not real communism" when no one but yourself was telling anyone that? On top of vague assertions that "communism was made by jews to rule over nonjews" but without addressing the fact that its western nations which are allied with Israel, geopolitically? With communist eastern countries not?

>>525747294
to add to this, formerly-White, formerly-capitalist world powers that received a large influx of jews who then infested their institutions and began to promote judeo-diversity, feminism, lgbtqp+, communism and "democratic socialism" from within have been in steep cultural and quality-of-life decline ever since; it's still jews and their nepotism and loxism at the root of the problem.

>>525736797
False dichotomy

"Real capitalism" is jewish.
>You can't tell a jew what to do! That would ethically OBLIGATE you to repeal property rights because consistency law, ala the talmud.
"Communism" is jewish.
>Only a jew can tell anyone what to do! It will be REAL communism eventually.

A regulated market economy is natural.
You can have private property and government at the same time.
You already do.
Ethical pilpul is jewish culture. Discard it.

You can eat cows but be disgusted by eating dogs.
You can tell the rich and powerful merchants exactly what to do but give more freedom to the less rich.
These things are not nonsense, or hypocritical. They are natural and ideal.

No hypocrisy conflicts with a prior philosophy
RATHER
the philosophies were invented to create the illusion of hypocrisy from the natural order

>>525736797
You still don't get it. Taken to their extreme forms communism and capitalism are identical. Under communism the jewish controlled government owns everything and items are granted to the slaves that are the most productive. Under capitalism the jewish controlled corporations own everything and the most productive slaves are able to rent more items

Remember kids

AYN RAND WAS A JEW
LIBERTARIANISM IS A JEWISH MOVEMENT
IF YOU ARE A LIBERTARIAN, YOU ARE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION
YOUR PURPOSE IS TO MOCK THE NATURAL ECONOMY (REGULATED MARKET) AND INSIST THAT IT LOGICALLY OBLIGATES A DESCENT INTO COMMUNSIM

KARL MARX
ALSO
WAS A JEW

>>525747764
Do you have a comment with roots in the real world? Other than just "X is jewish" (masking the fact that capitalist countries have allied with Israel, while communist countries in the east have been the ones who opposed Israel)?

Or a bunch of weird non sequitur comments which no one disputes...
>You can have private property and government at the same time.
I mean, of course, who has ever told anyone different? Communists would be the first to tell you big private empires of the sort we see with corporations, are big government.

>>525747748
I don't need to defend facts and objective reality against your emotional kvetching.

>>525746577
Its human nature. People with a communistic mindset will always point to the rich getting even richer and further removed from the 'proletariat' that keeps them wealthy and in power. Next, they claim its unfair that this will always happen. The working class should band together and take all their wealth so more people of the working class can use that supposed wealth. Though it always ends up in the hands of the few that are able to exploit the new system of arbitrary rules. Once wealth and affluence becomes the enemy, only status and influence is worth purchasing.

I hope you are well over there, my unc actually wanted to move over there since there were too many tourists in bucharest. though the rona got him

>>525748104
OK. So "No." That was all you had to say, was "No. I do not have any practical, concrete comments I can make to dispute why communism is better than the hellhole of dystopia we're presently existing under in the west,"

>>525748252
Nobody cares about your pilpul, kike. You can deny reality all you want, but you're still going to be rounded up and disposed of globally in the future.

>>525748034
"Real capitalist" countries are jewish. I already told you this.

Your belief in fundamental liberty - this is jewish
When your courts begin speaking of natural rights if someone wants to tell large businesses what not to do - this is jewish
Your belief in fundamental liberty, your libertarian leanings, these are jewish concepts.

ALL
LIBERTARIANISM
IS
JEWISH

A regulated market economy is natural.
"Capitalism" is a jewish caricature and "communism" is the other half of the false dichotomy meant to keep you in line.
>IF you dont let jews do whatever they want, jews will have to tell you what to do instead! ITS FAIR AND CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PRINCIPLES!

You must understand the jew is legalistic and they parasitize you because of your bullshit, unevolved belief in principles, honor, precedent, and consistency. Because "hypocrite" is your highest insult you are their host.

Discard legalism, adhere to nature.

>>525748360
This seems like an admission of defeat.

>>525747948
More of less this. Taken to their extremes each system will result in the worship of materialism and the same sort degenerate and malformed psyche we see today.

>>525748419
This seems like admission of being a kike seething because people won't engage with it in "good faith" anymore and simply want it gone.

>>525748368
Everything I said to the anon above about him not being able to say anything concrete or practical, other than "communism is for the jews." Every word of that applies equally with you.

BTW if you support fascism that means you support capitalism. So, I mean, you're fundamentally referring to yourself as Jewish here.

>>525748570
>if you support ism, you must logically support ism, or you are a hypocrite
Jewish thought.
Also see:
>If you eat cow, you must allow others to eat dog, or you are a hypocrite, because both are sentient beings and suffer.
>If you allow artificial insemination of animals, you must allow bestiality if the animal is not hurt
>If you allow a straight man to have sex with a straight woman, you must allow a gay man to have sex with a gay man because both are consenting adults.
This is all jewish legalism. Worship of a philosophy and logical deductions from it.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE "CONSISTENT" WITH A MADE UP SET OF IDEALS

Your philosophies do not exist. Only actions do. But you have the mind of a rabbi and can not comprehend disobedience to the "holy" book. This mode of thought is why jews parasitize you. They SPECIALIZE IN IT.

If it ends in -ism, it is a jewish invention. I - S - M. I SERVE MOLOCH.

Abandon legalism, adhere to nature. There is no ism.

People have things and fight to keep them.
Common currency is accepted as a mode of exchange.
If people are fucking things up for other people, the benefits and advantages of stopping them with force are weighed
REGARDLESS OF YOUR "PRINCIPLES", WHICH DO NOT EXIST, TELLING GOLDBERG TO QUIT IT DOES NOT VIOLATE HIS UNALIENABLE RIGHT TO FREE ENTERPRISE AND NO NON-AGGRESSION-PRINCIPLE IS REQUIRED AS HE MAY FUCK SHIT UP WITHOUT VIOLATING IT!
MIGHT MAKES RIGHT AND ONLY CONSEQUENCES GIVE WEIGHT TO VALUES

This is called, it results in, a regulated market economy. No principles, only practicality.
So called "communist" china actually adheres to this system. The state is mighty and directly tells people what to do and leaves people alone when it is not worth the effort. They are not communist or capitalist in the slightest. They are natural. There are no rights or principles. Only their tendencies.

>>525747537
So, is the failed communist state of the soviet union a succesfull communist state? Is russia the communist utopia you want to immigrate to? Is it real communism then?

To me, Communism in any form has been tried over and over in so many countries and the only success is the absolute destruction of a country with a concentration of power and wealth that can only be described as anarchy.

So no, that wasn't real communism as stalin himself said, and there never will be real communism unless you nanage to come up with an actual definition of how a nation is supposed to succeed more than one generation under commie leadership.

Real commies are dead ones

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>>525736797
Communism and Capitalism tell you exactly what they are in their names. Communism is about community and Capitalism is about capital. When a system is centered around community, community cohesion is extremely important. When a system is centered around capital, community is seen as something to be exploited for personal profit. A communist system is better at handling the sociopath problem.

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>east, middle and west
>russia, nordics and burgerstan
>russia in the east is communist
>i don't know what that means but people don't have anything
>the nordics are in the middle
>sweet spot between commie and capitalist
>rich country where people have plenty, solid welfare state
>burgerstan to the west, full on capitalism
>1% of population have 90% of all the money

>>525749769
Your comment is kike soup [the phrase is "word salad" btw, shlomo]. Entirely pilpul. You wrote an empty wall of kvetching masquerading as an intelligent argument. Let me know when you want to move to a "real communist" country by getting the fuck out of mine.

>>525749129
Your comment is word soup. Entirely non sequitur. You wrote an empty wall of text masquerading as an intelligent argument. Let me know when you want to partake in the discussion with a real argument.
>>525749183
Your comment as well was completely non sequitur.
>So, is the failed communist state of the soviet union a succesfull communist state?
I mean, I don't know how that even determines from the comments you're responding to. Soviet Russia was the world's 2nd biggest economy for many generations. They won World War 2 as well. They did all of that without having year round ports, which ultimately lost them the cold war. But now communist China is the world's #1 economy. And they do not have that problem.

And no one is saying "not real communism" but you. We on the far left do not even understand what you on the right mean when you use that phrase. It's verbal gibberish.

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>>525750075
You did not write anything which was decipherable. It was just a slightly more sophisticated collection of memes than the one in pic related.

>>525750304
>>525750075
I will answer everything you say to me. I do that anytime I am on 4chan. But your words to have to make enough verbal sense for me to read them, and then formulate the response.

>>525749769
>>525750161
Ooops, moishe's bot seems to have malfunctioned!

>>525750453
You're not going to convince anybody that I was a bot because I redid a comment which had a material error.

>>525749769
>Oy vey goy, you're not playing by the rules. Pick a philosophy and be consistent with it.
Both capitalism and communism are predicated upon the existence of things that do not exist.

All "ism"s are.

Rights do not exist.
Purpose does not exist.
Value does not exist.
Worth does not exist.

No one has to be purely capitalist, communist, or fascist, or libertarian, or authoritarian. Pure democracy is a joke, and pure monarchy is a joke.

These systems are post hoc justifications for the ego's desires. The philosophy postdates the reality and exists to manipulate you into behaving according to someone elses wishes. nothing more.

China's system (which is the absence of any system) is correct. People have natural tendencies and behave according to them like animals. What they tolerate given their position in the world, and what violence they will enact to shape the world, are all that matter and are unbound by principle and reason because principle and reason can not exist. There is nothing to base them on. There is no such thing as an "ought" without first believing in a higher power that gives out consequences, and that higher power is itself a post hoc justification for the ego's desires.

Man is an animal and there is only behavior. Morals, ethics, rights, wrongs, these don't exist. They're words an animal uses to describe its internal feelings. They are not external truths.

It does not matter how right you think you are. Your natural tendencies, feelings, etc govern what you actually do and how successful you are in the game of natural selection. If what you actually do is obey a made up system, and that leads to your eradication, so be it. Die justified!

To be arbitrary is to be divine.

>>525750304
>>525750430
of course you will, with meaningless kike pilpul and kvetching and no arguments of your own just defensive "UM WHERE IS UR ARGAMENT GOY DON'T GIVE ME 2+2 GIVE ME A REAL ANSER" garbage which you've been doing all thread.

you're a bot managed by an IDF peon.

See, fucking shit like this >>525750430 "But your words to have to make enough verbal sense". That bothers me. But I'm not able to proofread the comments and still keep up with many responses because of the new captcha.

>>525750685
You're not going to convince people that I am a bot by deliberately tagging comments I deleted because I get annoyed by it whenever I make my grammatical errors.

>>525750699
Oh. You're calling me the IDF, as you defend the political system which is notorious for allying itself with Israel. Funny. As for the usual on /pol/.

>>525736797
Communism isn't the antithesis of Capitalism, it's a subject/aspect of Free Market Capitalism and functions as a stop gap measure stabilize trade between unequal trade partners.

>>525750557
You're not going to convince anybody that you're anything other than a seething kike shitting its pants over and over with autistic repetition.

if you love communism so much, seriously fuck off and move to one.

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>>525750685
>this nigga seriously thinks this is groundbreaking
you clearly dont understand fascism anon

>>525736797
Western countries are essentially neo-Marxist, except for the US that had a strong enough conservative backbone to have a resistance. There is nothing essentially non-decadent about communism. It is just that Russia, China and Vietnam have conservative morality genetics and culture. Western countries have been so eroded by alien immigration that decadent, self-serving, low trust, pervert genetics and culture have taken over. Destroying prosperity and facilitating the rise of neo-Marxist takeover which destroys any chance that these countries will prosper again for the next 30 years at least.

>>525750933
It's amazing how you people will just string together comment after comment of verbal diarrhea, and post it on /pol/ anytime this topic comes up. "Communism is a subject/aspect of Free Market Capitalism and functions as a stop gap measure to stabalize trade between unequal trade partners." I mean it's just verbal diarrhea. It does not make even fundamental sense, verbally. Not even on the most basic of levels.

>>525736797
The real redpill is that communism is a meme ideology which either collapses, usually on ethnic lines (USSR, Yugos) or evolves into stable fascism/proto-fascism (China, NK)

>>525750904
>Oh, you're calling me what I am because that's what I'm behaving like
Yes, shlomo. You're clearly part of the IDF's mental retard brigade due to your severe autism so they put you on 4chan duty because all you can do is shit your pants all day while repeating the same retarded "UM WHERE IS UR SOURCE GIVE ME A REAL ARGUMENT" pilpul over and over. Kill yourself.

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>>525751012
Nope. I will stay right here and do what I want to do. You cannot stop me. Too bad.

>>525736797
there are no capitalist countries. everyone is socialist or communist

>>525751148
This is deranged. Everything you describe has been done by capitalism. Nations, borders, values, traditions, family structures - all are inimical to the free market. The funny thing is Marx himself even predicted this and saw it as necessary

>>525751166
I wish I had that screencap of the post where some guy points out that arguing with leftists is pointless because all they do is pretend like they don't understand and attempt to make discourse impossible when they lose (which is always). You're a meme.

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>>525751271
You're calling me Jewish as you defend Zionism. As possibly jewish posters frequently do on /pol/.

Pic related is a meme someone posted in the last thread I made. I would presume many anons here have begun to figure out what it is you're doing to them.

>>525736797
>Communist
>Not Zionist
The USSR and CCP were founded by globalist banker Jews.

>>525751544
No. Your comment was genuine verbal diarrhea. It made no sense. Fundamentally.

>>525751166
It means Communism is a natural outgrowth of Capitalism to fill in as a transitory economic model in places and times where Capitalism either fails or doesn't exist until Capitalism produces a sufficient answer to the economic problem. It's also means it can't exist without Capitalism or else it leads to cannibalism. Communism depends on Capitalism. It's simple, just learn to read.

>>525751571
Unfortunately, there are wide gaps between /pol/ pseudohistory, and real history. Particularly when it comes to your most feared political enemies. But what does it matter when you in the west are the ones who are allies with Israel? And the communists of the east are the ones whom are opposed to them?

>>525751750
Verbal diarrhea.

>>525750161
OP: COMMUNISM VERSUS CAPITALISM LEARING THE DIFFERENCE
(You)
>Oy vey asking wether or not soviet russia was a real communism succesfully failed state is a non sequitar because I dont want to talk about all the failed idealisations of communism and their murderous often anarchistic results because I dont even want to answere the question of wether or not failed commie states are representative of communism and their failed ideology.
>Oh wow, look at china! I love China! Let me suck on their communistic cocks pwease.
>I dont even understand what the phrase "not real communism" even comes from because I'm on the far left, I dont read history books to learn from past mistakes, I'm not on the right.
>All marxists who said "not real communism" Isn't real because I've not read them, its gibberish. Please protect me from intellectual discussions. ITS NUN SEQUITAR, I SAY

Translation of your kvetching. Please restate if the failed soviet union was successfull communism. Use words.

>>525751562
>as you defend Zionism.
Repeating "don't give me 4 give me a real answer" over and over while pretending not to understand wasn't working so now you're just making shit up.
>um no akshually ur da jew
Classic if predictable marxist "accuse your enemies of doing what you're doing as you do it to cause confusion" tactic. You are a kike, or if not, you're one of their golems. You are going to be rounded up and exterminated in the relatively near future and everyone is going to clap and cheer once you're gone. People are done with you and your retarded kike bullshit. Simple as.

>>525751864
>And the communists of the east are the ones whom are opposed to them?
Kikes have been literally handing the American economy to the CCP for decades.

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>>525736797
well, first of all. there is no such thing as a communist country anymore, primarily the reason why those countries are so antisemitic now is because of their communist past

china had a counter revolution in the 80s, russia had a revolution in the early 90s that ended communism. romania killed their communist leader in 1989, most eastern european countries instantly elected right wing governments as soon as the soviet union disbanded, or violently overthrew them like in czechoslovakia in 1989

a lot of the same idiotic ideas that you have in your country today were present in these countries a 100 years ago, which is why it's so painfully obvious to them now that we are all puppets for the jews

the same secretive gay wizard school cults that used to be in charge of the soviet union are now in charge of your country, and they have the exact same philosophy as they've always had: come to power by any means necessary, kill white people by any means necessary, say whatever they need to say to stay in power and do whatever they need to do in order to ensure that your children stay enslaved

>>525751683
Your brain is genuine kike diarrhea. You're a kike and you have done nothing but whine and pilpul and pretend to not understand. Fundamentally.

>>525751951
No one on the left has suggested "the soviet union wasn't real communism".

It's an assertion you made up yourself, which makes no sense, and which is only worthy of being laughed at.

It's even more funny the way earlier in the thread you made this assertion up while pretending other people were the ones who had said it.

>>525751958
Fuck, man. I cannot understand what you write. Your posts are just impotent rage where you repeatedly accuse me of being Jewish, despite the fact that you are the one who is defending the Zionist part of the world, here.

>>525751934
No, you're just stupid. It's the easiest concept to understand, like textile industry being a necessary prerequisite for industrialization. Capitalism exists for the individual naturally but Communism is the natural default within familial settings but it doesn't scale which is where Capitalism comes into play again. If you weren't so illiterate you'd know these things.

>>525752029
The West is the Zionist part of the world. The East is the Anti-Zionist part of the world.

You can write whatever empty kvetching you want, but that's still the reality, now isn't it?

>>525752079
China is a 1 party communist state, and there are communist countries all over the world.
>Its not real communism.
No. It is, and no one says "It's not real communism" but you people on the right who are trying to use mental gymnastics in order to avoid having to admit you've lost your previous economic dominance to communist countries.

>>525752145
retarded leftists say the soviet union wasnt real communism all the time you lying whore

>"The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out'."

words dont mean anything to these people, it's pointless to talk to them

>>525752617
>With other social factors, the conflicts culminated in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.[71] The protests having been crushed and the reformist party general secretary Zhao Ziyang under house arrest, Deng's economic policies resumed and by the early 1990s the concept of a socialist market economy had been introduced

>>525752721
No. No one buys your "not real communism" rhetoric, and no one on the left believes that in any significant number, no matter how many times you ascribe it to us.

>>525752991
>us

>>525752975
China is a 1 party communist state, and there are communist countries all over the world.
"It's not real communism" is a meme you made up on the right in order to avoid having to admit that you lost your economic dominance to the communist societies who you told people "couldn't work."

>>525753117
shut the fuck up and kill yourself you fucking jew

>>525753108
Yes. To us. As in, I'm a leftist and I'm here representing our views against people like yourself who seek to misrepresent us. What was your point?

>>525736797
Communists really just can't stop lying at every fucking moment I hope ICE shoots you

>>525753188
This is just an admission of your defeat.

You knew every word you posted in this thread from the very first comment was bullshit. This, the empty threat of violence in order to stop the ideas which you do so plainly despise, is what you've been reduced to now that none of it flew.

>>525752145
Kek, Somehow I knew you were going to respond to me with a nein sequitur.
>No one suggested thay the soviet union wasnt real communism
Kek

Thank god you at least answered wether or not the failed state of the soviet union is commie or not. Ohwait, you dodged again. I dont care what the left says, I'm asking you, is the failed state of the soviet union real communism or not?

>>525736797
I would love if the communists actually believed in this shit but they do not.

ZERO communists are actually on board with a mass migration 'deport the browns' agenda.
In light of that there's no point in taking le communism argument seriously.

In reality, the mass migration is caused BY communist subversion happening in the countries of their enemies.

>>525753978
MSM brainwashing is strong with you.
>>525753477
Are you fucking done, dude? No one cares about you running around saying "not real communism" and then responding "nuh uh, that's what lefties say not me!" whenever you're confronted.

Just no one cares. The world knows "communist countries were communist"

>>525738106
>one of those ideas that soviet russia was planning
Anything kikes plan is bad

>>525736797
> Communism. Let's talk about it.
It’s shit. Next thread.

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I'd rather deal with fags and kikes than white trash jew haters

>>525740303
>communists have written
We know. And we threw that garbage in the trash.

>>525754466
>Accuses me of a Kek-Seqatar
>Follows up by dodging my question
>Gets called out for his retard commie bullshit
>Dodges again

So, was the failed state of the soviet union commie or not?

Go on, Answere one (1) UNO Questions about your actual beliefs. Maybe even give arguments for and against your case.

>>525755174
It's just post after post of you repeating yourself. I already answered you 10 times. Probably the most in depth one was up here >>525750161.

>>525755371
>>525755174
You know, you can't really continue to claim "communism doesn't work" or whatever, when China has usurped your position as the world's #1 power.

>>525755371
>>525755566
Your refusal to answere in a sincere fashion is proof of your intellectual retardation. You think my repeated posts asking you the same thing over and over again are somehow proof of my dishonesty while you're not even willing to entertain the idea of providing me with direct answeres of your beliefs. I've read the gular archipelago. So its not like I care for your opinion on soviet russia since your knowledge on the subject matter is highschool-level at best. Its interesting that I somehow knew you would keep dodging giving me a direct answere on wether or not the failed communist state of the soviet union is actually communist. I'll give you a hint: those in the book were chasing the communist utopia till the day the state fell apart.

China is your hero yet you know its not a place you actually want to move to because the chinese firewall will prevent you from legally posting on this board. And their state isn't communist if you were to have actually read marx. So please, answere the question, you enlightend soon to be dead commie

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>>525756568
LMFAO @ how you repeat "you didn't answer," when you've been answered, concretely, a dozen times. Again, here's a post where I answered you in the way that I feel is most proper >>525750161.

And you can't keep telling people "communism does not work" when China is the world's #1 economy.
>Muh Chinese Firewall.
>Gulag Archipelago.
it's fucking time to grow up, dude.

>>525754466
>MSM brainwashing is strong with you.
That's what i'm saying too, man

>>525756622
That's capitalism. JP Morgan. I'm never sure that /pol/ understand the massive self-ownage nature of that when they post this image.

>>525736797
Communist societies actually do have gay people. Obvious repression has led you to believe otherwise.

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>>525756947
Yes. You've been brainwashed by the billionaire class to believe that anyone who wants to provide universal healthcare for the people, or living wages for the workers, is "a fucking fag". Or an immigrant. Or a brown person. Or something else dumb, and revolving around identity politics. And you weren't smart enough to figure out how they manipulated you with and of that bullshit. Wasn't that unfortunate for you.

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>>525736797
>Communism. Let's talk about it.
here's another idea: when i want to talk about your faggoty topics i'll go to your faggoty venue where people actually desire to see that twerpy bullshit.
how long is your contract to shill your irrelevant noise on /pol/ this time? i probably won't sit through another spastic tantrum marathon like the last one. let me know when your shill pay runs out and i'll start paying more attention.
sorry but you're just not up to the task you have undertaken. you're tedious and redundant and there's a whole other species of pajeet stink you carried in that's no less disgusting than the pajeets who already think they belong here

>>525757206
>>525756947
Get it? You're braindead, dude. You're disgusting. You're unforgivably ignorant. It's not a meme when leftists tell rightists this. You're confident about your view of the world, but you're confidently wrong.

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>>525757250
What do you mean "your faggoty topics"? You're the western capitalist here. You're the epitome of faggotyness. Your entire society revolves around faggotyness. You are here right now, in every practical sense, defending faggotyness, as you write this comment.

>>525757206
So you think the MSM is brainwashing you despite the fact they don't have interests related to their identity?
That's pretty dumb

>>525757308
Weird cope

>>525756876
>your post
>only mentions commie china
>Does not mention the soviet union
>Does not directly state that russia is commie, which it isnt anyway.
>China is commie
>Ive totally answered your question goy, no I wont paraphrase my answere to "Is the soviet union commie? " Because i've CLEARLY AND UNAMBIGIOUSLY (not) ANSWERED.
The commie retardation is real
Nigger-Secretairy, LOOK AT CHAINA, CHINEA IS REAL.
It doesn't even follow marxists beliefs since mao, we all know how good goy mao was

>>525747248
It's absolutely wild that you're getting replies like the ones you are while the "gen z college kids are illiterate" thread is up.
What utter pottery.
>>525747537
My man you need to read all the words. Not just "not real communism". Nothing Toothpaste here wrote is hard to understand.

>>525757595
A verbally incomprehensible post. But it almost likes you were trying to imply the MSM did not brainwash people there. In which case...wew.

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>>525756969
>capitalism
>communism
Nah just international jewery modifying and updating its tactics

>>525757976
Look I'm not going to sit here spoon feeding some drug addict that forgot to take his meds.
So enjoy being stupid.

>>525757661
YOUR POSTS ON THIS BOARD ARE NOT VERBALLY COMPREHENSIBLE.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. WHAT ARE YOU ESL FOLK? WHAT DO YOU HAVE, A 4TH GRADE READING LEVEL?

You appear to be still trying to pretend that other people have been telling you "the soviet union was not real communism," even though that has never happened. Not in this thread, and probably not even once to you, in real life, in other places.

>>525758098
If you're a fascist that means you're a capitalist. So, I mean, you fundamentally just referred to yourself as "international jewry," But have fun saying things which make no fundamental sense. As per the usual for these responses.

>>525758098
>>525758379
"Words just don't mean anything anymore, you losers. Stop using words to describe your ideas" - /pol/.

>>525758512
what is your ideology anon

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>>525750685
>rights don't exist
false.

if humans didn't have rights, or an ideal set of circumstances to live under, then PTSD wouldn't exist.

when a human is traumatized and has PTSD, the brain shrinks. that is an observable, measurable phenomenon.

>>525758570
I'm a communist, but that just means I believe in the rights of the working class over the wealthy.

>>525741119
>greed

anon... capitalism specifically rewards greed and makes greedy people the most powerful

>>525758570
I'm betting Communist.

>>525758778
>>525758570
I'm the OP, BTW. My internet has been so fucked up today, its been bumping me off, and then forcing me to do all sorts of fucked up shit so my ID gets reset.

IDK why it is happening.

>>525758224
>"the soviet union was not real communism"
Kek, you are a literal stereotype of braindead leftist commies
The soviets truely believed all that stood between them and a good life was the kulaks and the spies that tried to prevent them from ushering in the commie utopia.

So, was the soviet union commie or not?

>>525758671
Liberalism assumes there is a universal morality that all rights come from. But different people have different natures, so they have different moralities too.

Liberalism in general came from white culture. It's specifically designed for a white nation. But that no longer exists.

>>525758778
same here but I also recognise the need for a bounded demos, wotwu is silly nonsense

>>525758778
No nigger

Everything the govt touches turns to diarrhea

>>525736797
Communism is gay and Jewish, you’ll never convince me otherwise that your gay ass system could work.

>>525758992
What's gay in jewish is this thread, and your government not releasing the Epstein files

>>525758884
How can you just make comment after comment where you pretend people have told you "the soviet union was not real communism", when that hasn't happened? Your first comment in this thread was 4 hours ago. You have been at this for 4 hours now. Is this all you can do?

To just repeat your claim a person said something to you, which they clearly did not say?

>>525758956
Really? What about private property? You wouldn't have that without government. If you want to get technical here.

What you say does not make sense. You just do not want wealthy people being removed from power.

>>525759083
you are sperging over rightoids anon their only information comes from smoloko images. why do you think class warfare is superior to class cooperation?

>>525759158
Communists get the rope in the new world order

No exceptions

>>525759083
>"the soviet union was not real communism"
Well? Your answere, commie

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>>525758379
>If you're a fascist that means you're a capitalist. So, I mean, you fundamentally just referred to yourself as "international jewry,"
Interesting, I'd be fine killing everyone in NYC and DC and nationalize private industry's.>>525758512
>"Words just don't mean anything anymore, you losers. Stop using words to describe your ideas" - /pol/.
Not when objective truth doesn't exist eg. Men can be women, no such thing as race ect.

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>>525736955
Checked and OP's opening meme is just a flat out lie. I'm sick of this shit, I'm not discussing or arguing anything with straight up liars anymore.

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>>525758928
i'm not a liberal. i just gave you a scientific rationale that's rooted in the real world that human rights exist. liberals only deal in ideology.

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>>525736797
>Just for clarity.

I listen to my parents talk about life in Yugoslavia and it sounded nice.
I was born here in the US but I think these days are a lot different from when my parents decided to move over.

>>525759540
Everything in that graph is below nigger tier lies

The only solution is to burn every last ounce of communism out of humanity

By nuclear Holocaust if necessary

>>525759469
If you're opposed to communism, then no matter what edgelord posts you make about "killing people in NYC and DC," then you're still the people who are opposed to removing them from power.

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>>525758778
>I'm a communist, but that just means I believe in the rights of the working class over the wealthy
Just not if they're white and especially not if they dont want foreigners in their countries. Be honest you've never worked 'working class' job before have you?

I don't think you're actually a communist anon. literally none of the people here that claim they are actually know any theory. more like socdem or something

>>525759632
Wow. This reads just like what your grampy was told to believe about communists in the 1950s. Very impressive!

>>525759817
Id bet thousands commie nigger is some ivory tower academic who's never had a real job

>>525759817
You're so desperate to put words into your political opposition's mouths arent you anon? Its the only thing you people on the right have, is to doubledown on your false misrepresentations of us as being anti-white.

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>>525759815
>If you're opposed to communism, then no matter what edgelord posts you make about "killing people in NYC and DC," then you're still the people who are opposed to removing them from power.
Das rite

>>525736797
>give to the workers
i'm not a fan of capitalism but european countries have better workers rights then any communist state has ever had

>>525760030
I'm the only one here that even understands what communists actually believe and you can't answer my questions anon. I think you are larping

>>525759217
This website is a reverse conduit to propagandize the wealthy and ruling classes. To scare them shitless with the fear that their dreaded populist leftist uprising is about to come true.

>>525736797
I hate communism.

>>525760101
They also have more 3rd world rapists

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>>525737193
Communism can never be executed properly because the whole idea is that the leader is "everyone" but that is organizationally impractical and falls apart the second someone isn't uniform to the rest of the collective spirit.

And that happens because humans are individuals who aren't actually as similar as some idiots like to think. That's why any country that ever called itself communist is basically a government-centralized control-state where people are forced/compelled into uniformity, like China where people are so mindraped by Mao and now Xi, that they aren't even aware that their entire culture consists of copying what other countries are doing and then mass producing what they copied. They're extremely good at it, which proves that collectivism can win wars, but it requires a police surveillance state, and drone people, like it's Brave New World, and that's exactly what China is right now, and the reason so many here in the west have started saying "how great it is" is because we've been on a slow moving train to shift to a chinese social model across the west for the past 30 years. The difference just between 1998 and today in almost any american or european state/country is night and day with regards to how we talk to each other and how people hold each other down through social expectations. it used to be cool to not be like everyone else and fling shit at anyone who was "fake". Now it's the opposite where people are regurgitating opinions they've been told by someone else, and pointing at anyone who doesn't share them. That's the power of government having slowly wormed its way into the minds of the masses.

>>525760109
You were answered perfectly clear. But like every anon who gets perfectly clear answers on /pol/, which you don't like, you will just pretend you didn't hear them.

I have no doubt you and other anons here understand communism. You just lie about it.

>>525760188
Except leftist are all masssive pussies who will be fed high speed lead if they try

>>525759735
uh huh. very rational response. clearly this is a rigorous debate.

if you noticed, leftists are pro gun. so fuck around and find out.

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>>525759961
>Id bet thousands commie nigger is some ivory tower academic who's never had a real job
He maybe worked at McDonald's but that niggers never worked construction or in a factory for sure.
>>525760030
>You're so desperate to put words into your political opposition's mouths arent you anon? Its the only thing you people on the right have, is to doubledown on your false misrepresentations of us as being anti-white.
So you have no problem with us kicking all the brown people out who were imported to destroy the working and middle class right?

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>this thread

>>525760304
Look in a mirror and repeat that last part to whom it's most relevant

>>525760267
You assholes write these longwinded posts but they're just based on your own misrepresentations of communism.
>Communism can never be executed properly because the whole idea is that the leader is "everyone"
No. That's not what communism is. No. That doesn't have anything to do with communism. On the most fundamental level.

>>525760356
Post address

Lets

>>525760304
I asked you about class cooperation you just said "to scare the billionaires", that's not a theoretical answer. I pose to you that the workers should be represnted by the state, as should the (very limited and controlled) private ownership

>>525760434
>>525760267
Also the rest of your post is full of similar misrepresenations and plain pseudohistorical statements. But I cant be bothered breaking every one of them down.

>>525760304
>But like every anon who gets perfectly clear answers on /pol/, which you don't like, you will just pretend you didn't hear them

Are you against immigration?

>>525760517
>I asked you about class cooperation
That didn't happen.

LMAO. Every post from you people is just "2+2=5". No. That's not something that happened. Anyone can scroll up and read the comment above.

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>>525760434
>the only real communism is my definition of communism, which all works out in my fantasy

>>525760588
You would have closed borders if you lived in a communist society. You would, and you should.

>>525760539
>Also the rest of your post is full of similar misrepresenations and plain pseudohistorical statements. But I cant be bothered breaking every one of them down.
I've heard this one before. I bet it makes your nose ring tickle.

>>525760656
>>525759217
read the post anon...

>>525760674
Many such cases.

>>525736797
Communists promise all the shit on the right though, until they realize it ruins your country. Then they panic and start slaughtering the undesirables.

>>525736797
There’s nothing wrong with Capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with Free Enterprise
Don’t try to make me feel guilty
I’m so tired of hearing you cry
There’s nothing wrong with with making some profit
If you ask me I’ll say it’s just fine
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
I’m so tired of hearing you whine
About the revolution and bringing down the Rich
When was the last time you dug a ditch
Baby

>>525760267
Respect for stating beliefs.
Its true that you can see how prosperous a country is by how much it values the wellbeing of its citizens, or its freedom to criticise those who wield power. That's in part why china has such a large internal security apparatus and why their war machine isn't facing outward as much as it fear the threat inward.

>>525760304
kek. Is soviet union commie or not?
>>525760434
Commie? or not commie? >>525760656
Hello? commie? cant you answere basic question about your own fucking beliefs?

>>525736797
>Straight traditional culture
Most communist countries came from regions that had long suffered under, or been ruled by, authoritarian empires. Anyone who resisted those powers in earlier times was later considered part of the struggle against colonialism or imperialism.
Only basic folkloric elements were allowed, anything beyond that was considered bourgeoisie and religion was mostly banned. This resulted in a simplified traditional culture and simplified masses.

>Closed borders, no mass immigration
Nobody could freely enter or leave the country.

>Non-Zionist
As it was to any other ideology.

>Almost never begin a war
Entire ideology is based on revolution.

>Preference given to the workers
While this sounds good in theory, effective production requires people who know what they are doing how to create quality goods and generate profit. Most workers do not care about this, especially without any prospect of advancement. In order to meet quotas, many industries ended up producing useless or low-quality goods.

>Preference given to the public sector
Same as with workers, but with the highest places filled with nepotism, if you wernt related or didnt knew anyone high in the party you got no chance.

>>525760674
No one said that to you, or anything that equivocates to that. Per the norm, for /pol/.

You made up a misrepresentations of communism, in order to harm your political opposition, in the same way you just made up a misrepresentation of my comment.

>>525760434
>No. That's not what communism is. No. That doesn't have anything to do with communism. On the most fundamental level.
Okay, what is the fundamental idea of communism then?
"We don't own your toothbrush blablabla". Let's start with the fact that you refer to "we" as a collective mindset. If you're thinking on behalf of anyone but yourself you're pretty much already thinking like a commie. People who are not commies empathize with each other, but I don't speak on behalf of anyone who doesn't have the same brain or lived experience as myself, because that would be presumptuous, and claim some amount of co-ownership of people that I shouldn't control. But the fundamentla mindset commies have always seems to be "why aren't others like me" and then villifying them over it. So much of the "culture wars" that have gone on are exactly because of that creeping mindshare mentality.

>>525760805
Then that's not my fault for you tagging the wrong comment thread.

>>525760904
disappointed every single time. if you were actually a communist it could have been interesting. ah well. go back to r/latestagecapitalism anon

>>525760434
Communism is Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua
You know, shit hole brown countries people flee from
You only exist because the government needs controlled opposition to make people think fascism is a threat in the west when it's not
Just go kill yourself faggot

>>525760935
Wow. You used your right-wing mental mindpowers to determine I'm such a bad person because I might respond "we" when you ask me what "we as communists" believe, huh? Wow, thats very bigbrain of you anon.

But communism just means worker's rights.

>>525761031
You people's posts on this board do not even make sense in response to the posts you're responding.

Your misrepresentations of communism do not become real, no matter how many times you make them.

>>525760838
It works both ways. There is a benefit to a highly controlled society where people are motivated through fear of social stigmatization into compliance, and it's true on some level for either type of society, but it's definitely much worse in China, where classrooms frown upon "original thoughts", which is what creativity is born from, but in the west, you're typically rewarded for a bit of creativity when making a powerpoint in any class that isn't mathematical or results-oriented.

Communism will fall apart the day society is fed up with being told what to do by whatever is in charge of the compelled collectivist thinking mechanism.

Capitalism will fall apart the second people become too jaded to stay sedated by the freedom to be a piece of shit and accept rich people making better decisions than the 90% of dimwits that didn't realize in time that money is the answer to happiness and true freedom in a society where everything is expensive unless you earn 6 figures.

Both can offer comfort of leisure, but in a communist society you're letting down "solidarity" if you miss work, and in the west you just get bad self esteem.

To me both are numerous sides of the same imperfections and I just prefer the one that allows me to be weirder than my peers, because I am a weird person, and a little bit narcissistic, and I would've probably been placed in some kind of reeducation camp if I had lived in China.

>>525761208
Yo commie, Was the soviet union real communism? Can I get an answere?

>>525760708
Then fight for it, fight immigration. You won't, fight for industry here. There isn't a means of production to seize. We have been sold out by a rootless cosmopolitan elite. And there isn't a left to fight for these things, grandstanding on theory while the main economic weapon of the elite is fought as a leftwing issue.

>>525761344
Nigger go back to reddıt

Your gay fantasies will never work here

>>525761144
You've been militarily oppressing those countries for 80 years, in many cases, but you no longer have any right to pretend "communism does not provide high standards of living" when you're a westerner living in the shithole United States, and the communist Chinese are winning in every quality of life measure.

>>525761208
Yes, because you assume others are co-owned by you, and you expect of them to agree on behalf of whatever's happening in your own damn skull, which is a form of dominance.

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.

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Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you

all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable

from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

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https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as

beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

>>525760898
Another long winded post full of empty, pseudohistorical premises which don't say anything material.

You're the west. You're the Zionists. You're the "faggots". You're the ones with the wars. You're the ones with the open borders. You're the ones who are everything you try to accuse your political opposition of being. One day, very soon, the plebs you oppress will wake up and shove those facts right in your face.

>>525761531
Huh? Dude, you people just cannot even write coherent sentences, which make sense of verbal levels.

>>525761668
anon can you define communism? i can tell you what i think it is

>>525761441
I'm sorry, sir, but I can't deal with you when you ask me a question, I answer it, and then you just intentionally pretend to ignore it because you didn't like the answer. I told you communists are not for open borders. You're the ones who have open borders in the west, because that is the requirement for your capitalist system which you are defending.

>>525761476
>Militarily oppressed
Epstein visited Cuba, had parties with Castro
It wasn't "militarily suppressed" shut the fuck up pedo

>>525761872
It just means worker's rights. You hear from western propagandists and people on /pol/ that its about all of these are retarded and insane things, because they're trying to propagandize you against worker's rights.

>>525736797
>not zionist.
Stalin helped create the nation of Israel

>>525762023
Cuba is, and was militarily oppressed. Of course it was. "2+2=5" as per the norm from /pol/. Funny how you strained to work Epstein into that one.

>>525762123
anon that's ridiculous. worker's rights means worker's rights. communism means total worker ownership of the means of production and dictatorship of the proletariat, and arguably also pursuing class warfare and international revolution

>>525762256
Your misrepresentations =/= the truth of what "communism" means.

Within the discussion of worker's rights theres a whole field of depth, with many people, who are communists, who have different views. But when you ask me what "communism" means its worker's rights.

>>525761668
Im originally from a former Eastern Bloc country.

>One day, very soon, the plebs you oppress will wake up and shove those facts right in your face.
And they will be happy for about two weeks.

>>525761973
Don't be daft I am telling you to fight. The main tool at this point of control is immigration. I have seen unions undermined personally by this nonsense. Capital wants immigrants, the immigrants want more immigrants, and the left of socialists and communists fight tooth and nail for immigrants.

I am tired of you phony leftists. Sheep in wolfs clothing the lot of you. Fight against immigrants, fight for workers here. That's what I am telling you. I am just not holding my breath.

>>525762417
Aight, Do the kulaks deserve rights?

>>525762128
Your pseudohistory based on gross divorcing from context and cherrypicking. The United States is the country that has been allied with Israel nearly the entirety of its existence. Not the USSR. Not China. Not any other communist country.

>>525762417
then you can hardly accuse me of misrepresenting communism. i have known many communists over the years and not a single one would agree with that definition. fascists also believe in workers rights, and they also have a much more practical solution in that they should be represented by the state. why larp as something you are not just for attention.

>>525762477
Kulaks were people who hid grain from Soviet workers. They starved millions of innocent families for over a decade within the Soviet Union.

I support Stalin's massmurder of them.

>>525762579
Your politics, as fascists, involve using culture wars to distract the worker's from their rights. You are the antithesis of communists. You oppose worker's rights.

>>525762607
Lol thanks for letting us know youre a brainwashed faggot sheeple

Boy loving larpers like you will be easy to eliminate

>>525762716
You feel this is a win for you, when I am willing to openly admit this, but what you are really telling me is "people should be able to mass murder millions of innocent people because they want worker's rights" because that is what the kulaks did.

>>525736797
They're the same thing. Capitalism is just socialism for corporations and jews.

>>525762607
So ownership of grain isn't even a worker's right? You'll own nothing and be happy? You're a failed commie schizoposter living in the least opressed country complaining about how great starving russians in the trenches have it that they could die for their dictator. All hail putin

>>525762702
have you even read the communist manifesto? what does the proletariat own anon?

>>525736797
>straight, traditional culture
Someone who is complete ignorant of soviet politics.
>mass immigration
No one wanted to live in the Soviet Union though they tried their best to move people around from the stans into Russia and from Russia into the stans. That being said, mass immigration is a product of the political leadership and not whether or not the country had ingested one or the other form of hebraic brainrot.
>Not Zionist
If Israel sided with communists instead of with the US, it would be Zionist.
>never begin a war
The Winter War is one example of a war began by a communist country using a false flag as justification. The Russian invasion of Afghanistan is another such war. Moreover, the formation of the PRC was started by Mao's revolutionaries.
>Preference given to the workers
Never once happened in any country. Instead of business Oligarchs, it was simply just members of the communist party.
>Preference given to the public sector
If you nationalize everything, there is nothing but the public sector. However as before, preference is only given to the high ranking members of the communist party. Not to any other person.

>>525762840
Where do you work niggerino

Be honest

>>525762873
You're talking about people who burned and sabotaged the nation's grain, intentionally in order to create mass famines and starvations which they hoped would turn the population against the Bolsheviks.

No way for you to defend the what the kulaks did. No western lies about them being innocent bystanders will fly with me.

>>525762702
>he hasn't even read the communist manifesto
pathetic. what a waste of time

>>525762984
Oh really? You want to tell me the culture in the Soviet Union was not traditional? Or heterosexual? Well, this will certainly be an interesting ahistorical mental gymnastic. Want me to buckle in and brace myself for whatever pseudohistorical rant you have planned?

And the rest of your comment is rise with similar falsehoods.

"2+2=5 post,"

>>525763013
>Over 70 posts
Indian-tier shilling. This is personal for you. No sane human would argue with internet autists for this long. What is in this for you? What motivates you to die on this hill?

>>525763173
Do you really feel you're winning the debate when you randomly accuse communists of not having read the communist manifesto, for no reason? Come on, man. You must be able to do better than that.

>>525763273
what do the proletariat own anon?

Can you point the capitalist countries out on a map? Because all I see is either corporate cronyism or socialism when I look at Western countries.

>>525763264
I've been doing this on this board for many years.

If you people yourselves were organic posters of this board you would know me, as most posters on the board have in the past.

But everything is different here since Epstein. Lots of the organic users fled the board, with most of them being replaced by bots.

>>525736797
The post that brain-blasted fat retard amerilards. You have been conned into working hard for nothing and think your exploitation is a virtue. The Jews got you good, gotta hand it to them.

>>525736797
There is no traditional culture in Communism. All of the Olds have been replaced with a watered-down pretend-culture.

Workers better work or they'd be accused of being parasites and sent to "correctional labor" camps.

EVERYTHING is public sector in Communism.

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>>525736797
Face the wall comrade

>>525763306
I'm not taking any pop quizzes from you, anon.

>>525763013
Le-mao
I'm sure you hate commie chaina because Mao did the exact same thing. Its insane that you're a real human being typing this shit out.

>The only good commie is a dead onr

>>525763397
"Capitalism" means the private ownership of the means of production. This is how the means of production are owned all over the west, especially throughout the US.

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>>525755566
China aren't communism.
They gave zero communes (kholhozes).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_commune

>>525741119
You only think that because you have been socialised into sucking greedy people’s cock.
>>525742650
Cuba is based and you get killed in Vietnam for even looking at a drug so also based.

>>525763538
Unfortunately for you, your pseudohistory about Mao's China is entirely false, the same way /pol/'s pseudohistory is always entirely false.

Your assertion that Mao did anything in relation to what the kulaks did is utterly empty pseudohistory.

>>525737193
Easily one of the dumbest posts I've seen on /pol/ in years

>>525763482
LMAOOO you haven't read it. pathetic.

>>525763624
Yup. China is communism. The Chinese government is communist. China is a 1 party communist state. Yup. Yup. No matter how much you pretend its not in order to save face for yourself, and avoid having to admit your country is inferior to the ones run by communists...it still is.

>>525763194
> not traditional?
It absolutely was not traditional Russian culture. The communist party was actively trying to change that to produce the "socialist man." Speaking of traditional Russian culture, did you know that abortions and adultery were rampant in the Soviet Union. It was quite common for women to cheat on their husbands. And because no one liked wearing the thick pieces of rubber made as condoms there, they didn't wear them. So the woman would get pregnant and got an abortion to hide here adultery.
>heterosexual
Prior to the 70's, most nations were predominantly heterosexual. Homosexuality was either illegal or highly scorned in most places regardless of whether or not they drank Mordecai Levi-Karl's Koolaid. However, it's notable to mention that the gay pride movements in the US were often funded by Soviet Intelligence.
>ahistorical mental gymnastics
The definition of communist speech. Such as what you've been doing in this entire thread.

>>525736797
If capitalism is such a left wing dream then why are all these liberals communists?

>>525763780
No one's going to take a pop quiz from you anon. You are not important enough to anyone else to justify that sort of domineering behavior.

>>525763482
you cant even answer basic questions about communism. you are a joke anon.

>>525763574
Government ultimately owns everything in the West. We saw this during WW2. The government generally allows the masquerade to continue so long as it isn't under threat.

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>>525763842
How can you have communism if you don't have communes?
You can't.

>>525763918
AHAHAHA cope harder. you have been found out loser. don't pretend to be something you're not.

>>525763900
What? What the fuck does this even mean? "Liberal" implicitly means someone is not a communist, because they have far-right economic views.
>>525763876
Wow. Your assertion that USSR culture war not explicitly traditional and heterosexual is just another empty, pseudohistorical claim on /pol/. Due to the widely known Soviet stance of having laws against homosexuality, not worth devoting anymore time to.

>>525763918
by the way the correct answer is "nothing but his own labour". now you know. you are 1% more of a communist, up from 0.

>>525763952
Your means of production are privately owned in the west no matter how many times you say "nuh uh". There's just no way for you to talk your way out of it.

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>>525764083
>Your assertion that USSR culture war not explicitly traditional
>USSR
>traditional

>>525763918
>>525763930
>>525764125
>>525764027
"No one's going to take a pop quiz from you anon. You are not important enough to anyone else to justify that sort of domineering behavior."

>>525763952
you are arguing with a reddit larper who just admitted he hasn't even read the communist manifesto don't waste your time anon

>>525764222
HOLY COPE
you are going to go to bed seething on this one tonight lmfao

>>525764144
>government directs you to manufacture weaponry
>refuse
>get arrested for treason and get replaced by a good goy
Yep, private ownership checks out.

>>525764190
Finally, now we reach the inevitably point of the /pol/ thread where there's nothing left to do but emptily repeat previous comments, because /pol/ users will always try to doubledown no matter how proven wrong they've become.

"Your assertion that USSR culture war not explicitly traditional and heterosexual is just another empty, pseudohistorical claim on /pol/. Due to the widely known Soviet stance of having laws against homosexuality, not worth devoting anymore time to."

>>525764324
Nig nog

That's not how reality works

>>525736797
I honestly do not think you are smart enough to see that communism is what you inflict on your enemies to sow weakness in order to overthrow the status quo with a criminal one. Communism is state slavery without question. You are giving up your rights for the good of the elites at the top, which you have likely already surmised could never happen or you yourself would be one of the 'directors' and would govern justly and fairly and fantasize people would actually like you for once. The problem is two fold: one, low IQs and two, low morals. It is the most dangerous combination which is normally played out daily in Africa and the middle east, but inflicted onto western civilization in order to weak and one day overthrow lest the 'directors' get justice themselves on behalf of their captured populace.
You can't fix stupid, but you sure as hell can beat the living daylights out of it.

>>525764293
"No one's going to take a pop quiz from you anon. You are not important enough to anyone else to justify that sort of domineering behavior."
>>525764316
"Your means of production are privately owned in the west no matter how many times you say "nuh uh". There's just no way for you to talk your way out of it."

>>525764432
bro seriously end your own life this is pathetic
i am laffin

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>>525764324
>USSR
>traditional
(first country Introducing no fault divorce btw)

>>525764432
A small mind fills quickly.

>>525764409
On /pol/, it absolutely is. Anons will just repeat themselves rather than admit they were wrong.

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>>525736797
/pol/ is way too brown to get communism. The idea of socially conservative white ethnostate scares them. But they have no problem simping for Nazis and Shitler who killed tens of millions of white people. The rest are just degenerate liberals that want gay parades and mindless consumerism and will bootlick corporations and glowies as needed.