ITT: We discuss Christianity for, against, or its practice. Christianity is a religion, and thus political, and so long as this world has the two masters it has, loving God will remain politically incorrect.The Pharisees are the most well known of the peoples in Judea in Jesus' time. Jesus had some very pointed words about them, and rightfully so, but I'll get to that. The name Pharisee means "Purified", and the Pharisees were part of a popular religious movement that came up around the time of Greek/pre-Roman occupation of Judea, likely originally as the Hasidim who were around in the time of the Maccabean Revolt who would rather die than disobey the Sabbath, and/or they eventually turned into or merged with the Pharisees by the time of Jesus' ministry. Their goal was to preserve the holiness of the Law while under the yoke of pagan empires, and so they were very popular with the people of Judea. They believed in the Written Law (TaNaKh) and they had the Oral Law which was their own body of interpretations that they believe was the key to following the Written Law. Their Oral Law was something that Jesus made clear was of their works and not of God's, and wound up binding men with far heavier burdens than they were supposed to have to the point of shutting the gates of Heaven in the faces of those who seek salvation (Matthew 23 holds a large bulk of what Jesus had to say). In due time, that Oral Law was codified and recorded as the Talmud, and to this day, Rabbinical Judaism still believes that if all Jews follow this Law perfectly, the Kingdom of God will come. They also believed that a Messiah would come, too. Perhaps ironically, the Pharisees were the ones who called for their awaited Messiah to die as a curse for everyone, and hung upon a tree (The cross). Nevertheless, one of the most influential people in the early days of the Church is Saint Paul, who was a Pharisee, a title with achievements that he equates to hot garbage (Philippians 3:8).
>>525747779The Christians here are coolThey use "Allah" which catches a lot of err non-Arabs off guard, they also say Allahu Akbar
>>525747779>ITT: We discuss ChristianityYou worship a dead jew. Nothing else to discuss.
>>525747779>The Pharisees are the most well known of the peoples in Judea in Jesus' time. Jesus had some very pointed words about them, and rightfully soI’m white I don’t care about some kike desert drama.
>>525748943Indeed they always try to engage in some deep complex discussion about the sand nigger fairy tales so people get sucked into a pointless debate because it validates the existence of the sand nigger fairy tale. Its a pilpul technique. There's nothing to discuss. Jesus was a sand nigger, simple as.
>>525748943more than half of our wines are cross breed with American wines because virgin Mary cursed us for our blasphem after the apparition at la Salette.Keep ignoring the truth
>>525747779As a Muslim, Christians are honest, smart, friendly, and love God as much as I do. So they're friends of mine.
>>525748513Jordanians in general are cool. I enjoyed my time with you guys.
>>525747779all religion discussion belongs on /x/ or /lit/
>>525749539Were you in Jordan or did you just meet some Jordanians travellers/immigrants?I'm asking cause Jordan is a mind numbingly boring country, I appreciate the stability but jeez.Either way I'm glad you enjoyed your time with my people
>>525747779Jesus wasn't even a real person, you dummies>pic related
>>525748587We worship God. Besides, Jesus is very much alive, and not dead.>>525748943You did care enough to post in this thread.>>525749228Because Jesus is a "sand nigger" as you say, we can disregard all that He says. Is that what you're trying to say?
>>525750173Welcome back. How is the book you linked different from the one you posted about us having reason to doubt Him?
>>525749758/x/ is paranormal, and /lit/ is books. What 4chan needs is a /rel/ board.
>>525747779(Matthew 24:3) “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”>Jesus said that his presence would be signified with...(Matthew 24:7) “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.(Luke 21:11)...in one place after another pestilences...(Matthew 24:12) and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.>The earth would be ruined and polluted.“Bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18)>The message is officially spread of his coming and his Kingdom.“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—Matt. 24:14.>The Announcement of Peace and Security“Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thess. 5:3.>The Great Tribulation>ArmageddonWe are currently in the pangs of distress Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 which is part of the last days. We are not in the Great Tribulation. Where we are is in the moment right before they announce peace and security. They are going to announce a word wide call of Peace & Security in some way. Then the Great Tribulation then Armageddon.
>>525750750Did the Jehovah's Witnesses predict the last days to happen in 1975? If so, how did they adapt to it when we're still here?
>>525747779A lot of those people who died for their beliefs and removed themselves from the genepool. The tragedy of Maccabees is good people are the first to die. The survivors who are heroes of the story accidentally let their subordinate commanders give the order kill all the men in 2 Nabatean cities they liberate. Their allies caravan rob them in a justified TAB(typical Arab behavior) when John comes into their land with their stolen loot asking for safe keeping. Then in a typical Jew revenge do a wedding massacre. Pharisees later wrote the Talmud to use loopholes to get around everything. Christians just lifted the nonsensical rules and kept the sensible ones in place with a few new ones. Go read the Deuterocanonical books from the Greek period. Greeks were logic oriented, amoral in many ways but had good reasoning skills the Jews were lacking. They had trouble justifying many of their rules and still adopted Greek ways of explaining what rules are necessary and why that still apply in the New Testament. Yes even the snooze fest of Maccabees 4 if you can find it in some Bibles.
>>525750981>‘What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?’ asked Brother Franz. ‘Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975 - The Watchtower, 15 October 1966, page 631.
We are at the bottom of the feet now.
>>525751250At the same time, Resurrection is promised to all who believe in Jesus Christ. Those good men who died will come back to life, and will hopefully have a good case for living in the New Earth. God also has the power to turn even sniveling cowards into proper fearless warriors.That being said, I have been reading through 1 Maccabees right now. It is Deuterocanonical due to the Greek Translation being used (as the original Hebrew text has been lost) as you say.
>>525747779Jewish fantasy #1000000
>>525750390>How is the book you linked different from the one you posted about us having reason to doubt Him?Don't know mate, I haven't read the new one, it hasn't arrived in the UK yet.
>>525751375>>525751612It is also written that none know the time, the day, or the hour of that last week of Daniel. Why all the hubbub about 1975 back then?
>>525751972Alright, let us know what it says when you read it.
>>525747779Also a fun fact is Esdras 4 (number may vary) is a pseudepigraphal Ezra where you can clearly see the author frequently behind his historical Ezra mask is a Jew from the late 1st century who became a Christian. Apparently he was somebody who either attended the Council of Jamnia or knew someone who did. He didn't like what was going on and left. Huge rabbit hole to explore. Might find a bunch of books he alludes to that became the proto Talmud. Even mentioned what they are in Harper Collen's notes.
>>525752257>Alright, let us know what it says when you read it.UK will be banned from 4chan long before that, mate
>>525752268When did the Council of Jamnia happen? For that matter, what was it about? Where can I find Esdras? Is it a Book that was proposed for the Bible? Is it actually in the Talmud?
>>525752457We'll see what happens by the time you've read it.
>>525752539>We'll see what happens by the time you've read it.Not unless you know me in real life, I'm not going to bother fucking around with VPNs when we get banned, I'll just go for a walk or something
Magic is the only way to communicate with this ancient world.You can't access your unconscious without it.
>>525750564/Rel/ doesn't belong in /pol/.
>>525749925I was there for work. Yeah I agree that it's not an exciting place but the people were top notch. That matters more to me than excitement lol>>525750564This. Direly. /His/ went right to shit once it became '& humanities'
>>525748513Well Muhammad said it's the same god, so Moses and Jesus are both the first and second revelation but Muhammad is the final revelation and no other prophets can come after him. The jews and christians had to pay a tax though in the caliphate (oy vey my shekels)
>>525752832Unironically this
>>525752832The thing with magic is that it puts the workings and laws of the spiritual and unseen forces into the hands of Man in order for them to think that they can serve them. Magic is fundamentally an exercise in hubris that only divorces one from God.
how does being a christian /pol/cel even work?Do you spend the week spreading hate and vitriol online then pray for forgiveness when you go to church on sunday?(assuming you actually got to church?)
>>525752952Until we get a /rel/ board, I'm going to be posting this on /pol/.>>525753027I disagree with Muhammad. Islam's "Allah" never begot a son, while in Christianity, God begot a son, being Jesus Christ. If the word "Allah" is a linguistic term for "God" that is used among Jordanian Christians, then they are synonymous in my book.
Baseline Christianity is a death trap. Gnostics had it right.
>>525753118I just avoid going to /pol/ except for this one day a week where I post this thread. It is important to face evil and see to the truth, but if it is making you curse others, even if it is in jest, then yes, you cannot have both. Does a fountain of sweet water also dispense salt water and vice versa? Let it dispense one or the other.
>>525748587/Thread
>>525753461How so?
>>525752157Because 1975 was exactly 6K year anniversary of Adam being created. Exactly 6K years of human history. It was the Y2K of the Bible. They thought crossing that maybe the millennial reign might start on 6,001.>>525752832>(Leviticus 19:31) “‘Do not turn yourselves to the spirit mediums, and do not consult professional foretellers of events, so as to become unclean by them. I am Jehovah YOUR God.>(Deuteronomy 18:11, 12) or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. 12 For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable things Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you.>(Leviticus 20:27) “‘And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail. They should pelt them to death with stones. Their own blood is upon them.’”
Christianity was the original goyslop. It's just a bunch of ancient intra-Jewish nonsense. Anyone who says Jesus was anything other than a Jew, who was baptized as such, with all his earliest followers and disciples being Jewish, is a fool.
>>525753584Baseline Christianity is one of the most unsophisticated religions in the world when it comes to spirituality at a personal level. Running around saying you're "born again" and having one glass of wine instead of 2 is not spirituality. It's important to understand what Jesus was talking about, but other than that Hermeticism, Vajrayana, Vedicism, etc. absolutely wipe the floor with it.
>>525753617How does one derive exactly 6000 years from Adam to today?
rabbi שָׁאוּל (sha'ul) of Tarsus changed his name to the gentile "Paul". It's analogous for rabbi ישוע yēšūaʿ and שִׁמְעוֹן (shim'on / simon) who changed his name to the gentile "Peter"... and other hellenistic jews like them.
>>525753726Is Christianity invalid because Jesus is Jewish?>>525753787>Running around saying you're "born again" and having one glass of wine instead of 2This reads like a strawman to me, but I do know who you are referencing when you say that. It does have some very deep spiritual practices, but its practices are oriented towards letting God do work on you and letting God do work on you (i.e. Faith). The thing about Hermeticism, Vajrayana, Vedicism, etc is that this is your own personal work towards your escape/salvation. But it isn't by our works that we are saved, lest we become boastful.
>>525753959Are you implying that Paul had a hidden agenda of sorts? What might it be?
>>525750564all religion is inherently paranormal and it belongs on /x/ with the ghosts and demon threads. /rel/ would be nice
>>525754345I don't believe in that anon. I've had some experiences that I am grateful to have had because it allows me to know there's an element of truth to these things instead of just having to rely on blind faith. The Bible is largely based on Sumerian and Zoroastrian stories (the creation and fall of Adapa, the creation and fall of Matsya and Mashyana after Ahriman tempts them to eat the fruit, Enki telling Ziusudra to build the ark because Enlil was going to flood the world, Sargon being set into the river when he was a baby and later found, etc.) so the correct way to look at it is through the gnostic lense. Just blindly following religion is, again, a death trap.
>>525751809Jesus descended into Hades between the crucifixion and resurrection to take these people into Heaven. It is in the New Testament. In Maccabees 2 they all believe in Sheol like in traditional Jewish beliefs. In Maccabees 4 retcons it to Heaven and Hell. Keep in mind Jesus was just a kid when it was written. Some Jews adopted beliefs in an after life similar to the Greeks that was used later by Christians and Muslims. Fought against Hellenization still gets somewhat Hellenized.
>>525747779your god is creepy
>>525753726The competition in that part of the world. Hermeticism is unfortunately from the 2nd century and got influenced and coopted by Christianity.
Most of this christjew spam is being astroturfed by jews with only 30% coming from shitskinned Nick Fuentes followers.Why are kikes spamming christjewery into far-right spaces? Because around 90% of ethnic Europeans under 30 identify as atheist. They see the christjew spam and are repulsed.It's part of a D&C campaign.
>>525753461Why does it look like Set and Horus are spit roasting a hooker in the thumbnail?
>>525753027I denounce the Talmud.
>>525748513Allahu Akbar
90% of ethnic Europeans under 30 identify as atheist. Why would anyone trying to create a European ethnonationalist movement create a stipulation like "you cannot support European ethnonationalism unless you worship a fictional jewish rabbi"? These are kikes trying to D&C or else shitskins trying to undergird the far-right with christjewery because then they can have a backdoor in as "brothers in christ".
>>525753920Biblical chronology using historical events and the lifespans of people in the Bible.
>>525755537Kek. That's a spine and hip bones with Horus and Set on either side. It leads up to the scarab which is associated with Khepri, God of the Morning Sun, with the sun above it, symbolizing the dawn of higher consciousness.
>>525755045What's wrong with that? Are you gay?
>>525750251If Jesus is alive, where is he?>Jesus was so and soAlthough he wrote nothing that survived, apostles recorded him as being a cuck, and telling everyone else to. This cuckery is worse than sand niggatry. Joseph would rather tell everyone he got cucked by God than explain how his hoe got fucked by a Roman chad. That is what everyone else thinks of your messiah (king of jews). Kikery 2.0, golem of kikery 1.0. Your one and only purpose is a golem.
I'm glad to know that everyone will get what they deserve. Those who reject God will go to Hell. It's only right.
>>525753090>>525753617>Everything that does not contribute to my stash and account is detestable. People who seek spiritual guidance and have other different views will obviously never pay 10% of their income. Also it's possibly that we will never brainwash them and they will remain free.Properly translated.
>>525753090>divorces one from God.i'm not married to any nigger.
Nick Fuentes was the worst thing to ever happen to the far-right. He convinced millions of shitskins that they can become honorary Aryans through worshiping a fictional jewish rabbi and sending him money. They then all began flooding into our spaces, hence /pol/ being 95% shitskin. The kikes caught on that spamming christjewery not only pushes shitskins into far-right spaces, but also repulses normies (90% of ethnic Europeans who are identified atheists).
>>525756257Memeflag, there is no hell, and real life villains and heroes won't get what they deserve when they die. We are equal in death as nothing, discounting second death. There is no eternity or eternal life, especially not how you know it. Stop believing in Jewish fairy tales. Consider the world we live in. Do evil people always get their dues? If not, why should your mythical afterlife be any different?
>>525756451Any old-timers here? Before Nick Fuentes would shtskin parasites feel so embolden to infest our spaces in the degree that they are doing now? (/pol/ is 95% shitskin)
>>525756616Everyone get what they deserve. That's the law of Karma. It's always happened. 100% with no exception.Actions have consequences.
>>525751809Yes some Deuterocanon has been lost in the original language. Others have been rediscovered in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Jews did not preserve them in Hebrew. Only parts in other books that quote them. They make it so tedious to piece together what happened after the 2nd temple was rebuilt. Absolutely censoring what they believed before Christianity. So they think their wise 2nd century rabbis knew best when they quote from Christian wisdom books. Esdras 4 is one that we are stuck with translations of a translation because the Greek Orthodox church was not one of the churches that accepted it. Though the Catholic and other Orthodox churches did. I can kind of see why with the Christian interpolation chapters. They suck and cause a mentality of letting your country be destroyed (ch15 & 16) or openly talk about geocoding Jews (ch1 & 2). It might explain a lot about what happened to the Roman Empire at odd points in history. Someone was reading chapters 15 and 16 which were likely written in the crisis of the 3rd century! Absolutely subversive! Keep in mind chapters 1 and 2 were probably written in the 2nd century after the Bar Khobar rebellion.
That's why non of you can beat me in a chess match. You don't believe in making a right choice.
>>525747779Your Jewish trash is not welcome here Fuck off >>525748513Problems of people with a nameless god
>>525748587I worship the Father John 20:17>Jesus said to her, “Do not touch me, because I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ The one who appointed Yahweh to be the God of Israel Deuteronomy 32:8-9>When the Most High apportioned the nations, when he divided humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the gods; the LORD’s own portion was his people, Jacob his allotted share.
>>525747779Jews need White people to be christian or their prophecies will be severed and their plot against us will fail.
>>525750251>We worship GodYou worship a Jew >Because Jesus is a "sand nigger" as you say, we can disregard all that He saysYes
>>525757354You worship a jewish character as the foreskin god of the jews incarnate.
>>525757539>>525757629Fumble and stumble like a complete idiot. Not knowing why you are a failure at everthing in life.
>>525747779Officer's lolis not wear dresses anymore, they gave Junior Soldiers uniforms now. Very cute. I don't think they're enrolled yet though, they're too young
>>525754750>blind faithThe faith in Christianity is very visible, albeit quiet and humble, like a candlelight in the darkness. Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV): But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control [...]. In fact, Jesus says that He is the way, the life, and the truth (John 14:6), so the truth has been rendered visible.As for the stories in Genesis, much of it is oral tradition by the Hebrews before they were written down, and I think it makes sense for the peoples and their neighbors to share the stories and themes between them, even if the figures differ.The question is, what are the take-aways from those older stories? What do we make of the fall of Matsya and Mashyana after they ate the fruit that differs from Adam & Eve? What about Ziusudra's ark being different from Noah's ark? Or even what happened with Sargon being set down the river to be found being different from what happened with Moses?
>>525757491Join a sect that believes most of the prophesies have already been fulfilled. The best they can do is trick them into doing refugees welcome like they do with atheists/other religions. >>525756616They tend to destroy everything around them. It may not happen in their lifetime but the system they create to contribute will not last if it keeps going on autopilot. This is what The freaking Old Testament is all about. Don't be immoral or you or your descendants will get screwed by your mistakes.
There is no coincidence. There is a reason for everything.
>>525754764Technically it's not Heaven but Paradise where they wait until the New Earth is made, but I know what you mean. Also, where does one find 3 and 4 Maccabees? I'm using the Catholic Bible, and the one I have only has 1 and 2 Maccabees.
>>525758160I'm not joining something that worships a jew. And it doesn't matter to the jewish prophecy what you believe about prophecy as long as you believe that the god of Moses is God through the messiah they set up for you and you rid yourself of all other gods.You're blindly bound to an abyss and the jewish plot against us, trying desperately to poison your kin so that the jew may triumph entirely over your blood through the next era.You are a christcuck.
>>525753617JWs would be so much more palatable if they stopped with the increasingly absurd date setting stuff (the 607BC belief is akin to being a flat-earther with how much you have to disregard archaeological evidence) and just stuck to the arianism bit.
>>525756311>(Revelation 16:14) They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.>(1 Timothy 4:1) However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons,Build a relationship with demons then. Not our problem when they start poltergeisting you.
>>525755526>>525755886I'm not Jewish and I'm not behind a memeflag. Also, the traditions of the Rabbis back in Jesus' day are unfamiliar to Jesus. In fact, the term Rabbi back then was an honorific meaning "My Master" and they were among the common folk teaching the Law and how to apply it in day-to-day use, though the title got formalized in the formation of Rabbinical Judaism. The Rabbis would build off the works of previous Rabbis, and that's where Jesus is unfamiliar with them. So, no, calling Jesus a Rabbi in the sense that he is among that group in Judea, much less in modern times, is demonstrably incorrect.
>>525758605You don't believe in forgiveness. Don't you?
>>525758725Aren't you that philipino mongrel?
>>525750173Why did you run away like a spineless coward in the last thread when you were caught lying about Galatians 1:19 where Paul talks about historic Jesus by pointing out he met Jesus' sibling?
>>525753090Is scholarship entirely different from magic? The idea that deep study, reading all the things, knowing it all will get you closer to salvation? I’ve read that Newton was into alchemy, and contemporary bifurcation of science and magic is an anachronism. Anyway, great thread. Learning is worthwhile and good. I’m inclined to believe grace doesn’t require much knowledge, but that God can talk to us through many channels, including but not limited to scholarship. This seems like a problem for Christianity. The theological infighting, denominational segmentation, dogmatic conflicts. Surely Jesus wouldn’t want Catholics killing Protestants, wars over theology and all that.
>>525758981Bitter, and resentful. I doubt you have a good life. Am I wrong?
>>525758656607 comes from Biblical chronology as well.>>525755972
>>525759029Yeah a pharisee jew making a claim and the following it up by saying " i swear I'm not lying"...totally true and factual and trustworthy despite the evidence to the contrary.
>>525758656>>525755972>>525759231
>>525758349An Orthodox Bible or one that has an extensive list of "Apocrypha" books included. I have to read from a scholar's Bible for 3 Maccabees and 4(2) Esdras . Because my Orthodox Bible doesn't have them. Unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it 3 Maccabees is an unrelated Hippodromocaust story. This should really be a meme! As I have posted before: Now this is something I was not expecting at all! 3 Maccabees is overtly the original Holocaust story. Set in Ptolemaic Egypt in 221-204 BC but with an historically inaccurate spectacle in the Hippodrome that dates it to the Roman period. Call it the Hippodromecaust if you will.Egyptian Jews are rounded up to at first be taxed then sent to forced labor before finally being sent to the Hippodrome to be exterminated. But instead of gas chambers they are to be crushed to death by drunk elephants. I am not making this up! The moral of 3 Maccabees is to fake a tragedy and survivor stories to gain sympathy. Use that sympathy to get special privileges from leaders. It works on Greeks but not on Egyptians. They literally get the king to change his mind after 3 failed attempts at getting elephants to stomp on Jews. At the end they are granted their Torah law courts completely unsupervised by the king to police Jews all the way up to imposing executions. They immediately use it to execute 350 apostate Jews who helped the government round people up.And here is where it gets interesting if you read historical contextual study guide notes. In Harper Collins this is what it says about 3 Maccabees 4:14>The entire race was to be registered individually, presumably so that no one would escape, but the process seems to be laborious. Again this may point to an original story concerned with registration rather than annihilation.Harper Collins is a Hippodromecaust denier!
>>525759142You're dead wrong christmongrel.
>>525759368What am I wrong about?
>>525747779>We discuss Christianity for, against, or its practice.FOR.
>>525755972Ok. I still think that the time of Judges and past have unknown dates. The current thought is that the Judges times happened during Bronze Age Collapse, but we still don't fully know.>>525756095Jesus is alive and has been taken up into the clouds where He stands as the right hand of God. As surely as God lives, Jesus lives, too.>Although he wrote nothing that survived, apostles recorded him as being a cuck, and telling everyone else to. This cuckery is worse than sand niggatry. Joseph would rather tell everyone he got cucked by God than explain how his hoe got fucked by a Roman chad. That is what everyone else thinks of your messiah (king of jews). Kikery 2.0, golem of kikery 1.0. Your one and only purpose is a golem.Jesus did His ministry, and the Apostles recorded it, with John's account being the most personal of them. The rest of what you posted sounds like non-sensical vitriol to me. What can be determined is that the Talmud took time to talk about their hatred of Jesus, enough to say that his father was a Roman soldier named Pantera, his mother was a whore, and that Jesus is boiling in shit. If even the Talmud acknowledges Jesus as real, I think that says something. It's also determined that Christianity is what spread the world over, and it even overtook Hellenism and the worship of the Roman emperors who persecuted the Christians so, and yet, Christianity dominated.
>>525748587Fictional circumcised jewish rabbi who taught the torah in synagogue*
>>5257593374 Maccabees I mean. 3 Maccabees is in all Orthodox Bibles. But only 4 Maccabees is accepted by some Churches and not to be read out loud.
>>525759530Bitterness, and resentment. Another one who have a shit life.
>>525754522i have no idea. it's an interesting question. but i am implying that christianity was a way for hellenistic jews to emancipate themselves into the ancient roman civilization.
>>525759283>a pharisee jewYou don't need to sign your posts, kike
>>525756311I'm all for different views, but our own works are doomed to sprout thorns by whatever we do (Genesis 3:18), and when dealing with the unseen forces, who knows what they're going to do to you. It's high risk for a taste of something that feels like superiority over them. These demons that are being consorted with have been with us since time immemorial and they are smarter than we can ever know them to be. They owe us nothing, and they hate us because they don't like how we, creatures from the dust, can walk beside God in all His splendor as declared by God, a title that the demons (fallen angels) think only belongs to them. The fall happened, when those fallen angels decided that the splendor they were made with was their own, and not God's.Be very careful when consorting with demons, my friend. They tempt us all every single day, with or without magic.
>>525759733If you have an inner monologue, in your head right now you are saying, "FUCK CHRIST!"Gotcha nigger bitch kike worshipper. Kill Yourself
>>525759965It's not my thought, it's yours. You are burning with anger right now, and yet. You deny the existence of Hell and suffering.
>>525759231>>525759320>I think you guys should stop insisting on your esoteric timeline and date-setting stuff>brings out the esoteric timeline chartsbot behavior.
>>525756946I have nothing to add to what you said, but I am glad you told me this. For solace, there is no divine Table of Contents, and I say that because Jesus, when He refuted the Pharisees who believed in the TaNaKh, quoted from all around it. But, when Jesus refuted the Sadduces who only believed in the Torah, Jesus only refuted them with the Torah. Jesus recognized all the books, but all of them still hold what God would have of us in them, but neither of those two groups of people quite learned from the texts they chosen from.As an aside, I don't know why the Book of Enoch isn't in the Deuterocanon. It is canon in the Ethiopean Orthodox Tewahedo Church tradition as they made the whole Septuagint canon. Didn't Jesus quote from Enoch at a point in His ministry? Or am I on crack?
I’m Indian and my thirst sex is unquenchable.
>>525757335>>525757539>>525757977Remove the memeflag first.
>>525756079>Not wanting to rape children is gayBrown groyper typed this.
>>525759337>>5257596454 Maccabees is Holocoaster Tycoon, BC Edition. That's fascinating. The Inter-Biblical Period is like a black box where the Israelites go in, and the proto-Rabbinical Jews come out from it. I wonder if it's in their Talmuds?
>>525759943Your kind words are welcome.It's just your narrowed view of the universe that makes us disagree.First we should understand what is evil. And who demonized entities/gods/forces that came before christianity.Evil comes in all colors and shapes. So a priest being a pedophile or a nun rapist is one of them.It's true that, it would be unjust to wrap all christians under this same label or even the religion itself that it does have their good parts.Christianity could be a force of use if not so terrible used by human beings and the actual society.We need more of the Sword of Michael and the Whip of Christ and less Turn the other face stance.You could be a powerful ally and a good friend.But i'm not the one who excludes everything that is not under my beliefs.
>>525759768Why would Hellenistic Jews emancipate themselves into Roman Civilization like that? Don't today's Jews reject Jesus Christ? Aren't the Christian Jews today just called Christians, their past as Jews now unknown?
>>525760440The thing though is the main body of 4 Esdras is an argument against Rabbinical Judaism from the cradle. I would like to see a movie made from this that also explores who might be the writer of this pseudo Ezra. He clearly shines through half the time. Just boating adrift down the Nile until he reaches the sea and somewhere in Europe hanging out in an Alpine meadow to get his mind off his depression. Like it goes back and fourth between Archangel Uriel arguing with a fictional Ezra in Palestine and this traveling rabbi who becomes a Christian.
>>525760096Neener neener peepee poopoo. Anger? You're pathetic lol
Jewish psyop to conquer the goyim and make them into universalist slaves who will never resist jewish supremacist ideology
>>525761373Mockery. Do you think you are better than me?
>>525760440It was accepted by Monophysites who fled to Ethiopia. They were so isolated from other Christians for such a long time that they developed a strange Deuterocanon.
>>525761589I don't even know you. You're probably better at some things me, and I'm probably better at some things than you, like every human on this planet individually compared.
>>525759796I'm not a jew.Paul, who wrote the referenced verse, also claims explicitly in the new testament that he is a pharisee jew who studied under one of the most important pharisee jew rabbis to modern judaism
>>525761110I do agree that pederasty and rape are evil, and are especially bad when done by those who are in positions where they directly serve God. I think the Bible even speaks about how such people who do evil while claiming to serve God are in especially hot water for doing things like that, whether or not people know, but I can't recall the passage off the top of my head.I do agree that Christianity has been used as a terrible force by humans, because we are so beholden to our sins. Even the goodness of God is profaned even by Men doing their honest best (Genesis 3:18).As for turning the other cheek (Luke 6:29), that passage is honestly very misinterpreted. When Jesus spoke of turning the other cheek, He was referencing a Roman custom wherein the Romans would strike those lower than themselves with the backside of their right hand. But, when you turn the other cheek, you're goading the Romans into striking you with the front side of their right hand, which, according to Roman custom, is how you would strike an equal. As for striking with the left hand? Never do that, that's sinister. Very frowned upon.Thus, to "Turn the Other Cheek" is to make the other treating you like you're lower into treating you like their equal. There is more to it, but it will take more posts.Evil, no matter its shades, is still evil. Man has been made in the image of God, while Women were made in Man's image and who beget God's image and are descended from God's image. The image can be defaced and disfigured, but it's still in God's image, like a coin whose face is smelted partially in a furnace. The question becomes, are we in God's likeness, producing good fruits? For this, we need to let God do that work, because only God's works are good. This requires humility and faith in God.
>>525761717That's interesting. I'll admit my knowledge of the Ethiopean Tewahedo church is limited, but I think those guys are Miaphysites, and not Monophysites. Do you know more about this by chance?
>>525761110>Christianity could be a force of useThis is what I've always reviled about your kind. You see religion as nothing more than a justification for your own personal beliefs. You might show charity for Christianity... if it accomplished what you want it to. To you, religion is nothing but a material matter who's sole metric of worthiness is that it affirms what you already think. There is no actual metaphysical thought. There is no actual pursuit of truth. It's all a planar utility. It's all just a desire for power. You are putting the cart before the horse.
>>525761443Why do you think that?
>>525761071Probably. They believed that the other books were for the wise only before they wrote the Talmud. 24 books for normies the rest for the fully indoctrinated scholars. The author of 4 Esdras implies Christians are the wise and the 70 other books are actually the Septuagint not literally 70 extra books. Which matches up better with New Testament quotes. The only time I recall the number 70 being significant in the Council of Jamnia is mentioning a rabbi who could supposedly speak 70 languages. I do not think he was the author but it is a reference to how many languages they believed existed at the time.https://ibri.org/RRs/RR013/13jamnia.html#footnote64
>>525761918What do you think you are better at than me?
>>525762568CRANKIN MUH HAWG, BORTHER
>>525760545>memeflagKill yourself newfag>>525762135>As for turning the other cheek...Absolute nonsense post hoc justification that completely ignores the text >You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek alsoIt is explicitly negating retributive justice. It is not whatever bullshit you're trying to make it>Evil, no matter its shades, is still evilAnd Jewsus in no uncertain terms tells you not to resist >He was referencing a Roman customThere is no such "custom", it is completely made up, probably very recently, in an attempt to explain away this passage
When Jesus spoke to a politician this is what he said:>(John 18:36) ...“My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”This is Jesus and God's attitude towards his followers living in the world back then and today.>(John 17:16) They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.>(John 15:19) If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU.>(James 4:4) Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.>(1 John 2:15) Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him;>(Romans 12:2) And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.So you are not supposed to be involved with this world's affair at all. Here's why:CONTINUED
>>525762903So you are not supposed to be involved with this world's affair at all. Here's why:>1 John 5:19 - 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.>Ephesians 2:2 - , , 2 in which YOU at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.>John 16:10,11 - 10 then concerning righteousness, because I am going to the Father and YOU will behold me no longer; 11 then concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.>John 14:29, 30 - 29 So now I have told YOU before it occurs, in order that, when it does occur, YOU may believe. 30 I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me,>John 12:30, 31 - ” 30 In answer Jesus said: “This voice has occurred, not for my sake, but for YOUR sakes. 31 Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.>Luke 4:5-7 - 5 So he brought him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time; 6 and the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it. 7 You, therefore, if you do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.”>(2 Corinthians 4:4) among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.The devil is the true ruler of the entire world. Not God and not Jesus. All politicians, parties, regimes, corporations, and religions answer to him. You are not supposed to try to change the world. That would make you enemies with God and allies with Satan.
>>525762809Resistance is futile
>>525762554The number 70 is important as it is the number of Judgement and Human assemblies, and yeah, I always knew Esdras sounds too much like "Ezra". The Septuagint was also, I think, the first real attempt by the Jews to put all of the books of the TaNaKh into one neat collection. This may be why you got staunch followers of Torah with their insistence on the Torah only using the scrolls and tomes already on hand, being suspicious of anything Greek or non-Jewish, given how Israel was set aside as a nation to minister until the other nations until Israel fell into prolonged apostasy.
>>525762809Jesus did not say that if someone strikes you on the jaw you should get up off the floor and hold up the other side of your face for a target. No; how foolish and ridiculous that would be! A slap is not intended to injure physically but only to insult or provoke into a fight. What Jesus was saying was that, if anyone tried to provoke you into a fight or an argument, by either literally slapping you with an open hand or stinging you with insulting words, it would be wrong for you to retaliate. “Return evil for evil to no one. ... Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good.” Peter said that Christians would not be “paying back injury for injury or reviling for reviling, but, to the contrary, bestowing a blessing, because you were called to this course, so that you might inherit a blessing.”—Rom. 12:17, 21; 1Pet. 3:9.Why?>(1 Peter 4:4) Because YOU do not continue running with them in this course to the same low sink of debauchery, they are puzzled and go on speaking abusively of YOU.When you refuse to provoke, insult, or offend back this makes you distinct from them and exposes them as the hypocrites and evil ones. That's why you turn the other cheek; it is to not fall for their demand for retaliation so they can make you look as bad as them.
>>525762346They are Nicaean Christians. Just let some Monophisites in and accepted their books before the Monophisites eventually came to terms that Nicaeans were correct. I don't know much more.
>>525762135>As for turning the other cheek (Luke 6:29), that passage is honestly very misinterpreted. When Jesus spoke of turning the other cheek, He was referencing a Roman custom wherein the Romans would strike those lower than themselves with the backside of their right hand. But, when you turn the other cheek, you're goading the Romans into striking you with the front side of their right hand, which, according to Roman custom, is how you would strike an equal. As for striking with the left hand? Never do that, that's sinister. Very frowned upon.>that passage is honestly very misinterpreted.Misinterpretation is almost a synonymous for who ever read the bible.That's why evil can remain and perpetuate although all those many, many gray tones.Through the midst of this unnecessary conflict, i find my goddess, my kind mother.Her, the nature itself. My other half. Because a woman will naturally seek her father and a man will naturally seek her mother.As we become one in my most intimate moments, i hear her words. And they are clear to me.All the laws of this very universe that makes thousands of years merely fractions in the infinite.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttqnz-xnwWM
>>525762809What Jesus is saying is that it's not the person that is the enemy, but the sins caused/the thorns that come of our works (Genesis 3:18). What say that when one strikes you, you strike them back (which is resisting the evil person). By the earthly law, that is a fair outcome. The problem is that there is still enmity between the two parties, perhaps more so after it all happened. Jesus proposed a way to make things right, without letting those thorns grow/making enmity between the two parties happen. By positioning yourself in such a way with the person treating you as a lesser that they will have to treat you as an equal so that the two of you can meet eye-to-eye is the what it means to Turn the Other Cheek.
>>525763110Nearly all of the Deuterocanon is a translation from Hebrew or Aramaic. Which is the languages they spoke. But In Egypt most spoke Greek and forgot Hebrew. That is why the Septuagint was translated there. A work fully approved by Jews for Jews. Dead Sea Scrolls have elements of the Masoretic version and Septuagint before they diverged. What was in Egypt was translated from what was there.
>>525763543>Misinterpretation is almost a synonymous for who ever read the bible. That's why evil can remain and perpetuate although all those many, many gray tones.Yes. Our interpretation of scripture is fallable, even though the Word itself is infallable. We don't live in times where we have Roman ways of striking someone, so it's not readily available. Nevertheless, this is the prevailing interpretation of that teaching from Jesus Christ.
Nah. It is as the word say. The idea is so ground-breaking that it break the mortals mind.>But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let them have your cloak as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."
>>525761258as I said, I have no idea why they did it. but it parallels the way modern american jews emancipate themselves into america by taking on american names. so whatever american jews' motives are would likely parallel those of ancient jews.>Don't today's Jews reject Jesus Christ?yes>Aren't the Christian Jews today just called Christians, their past as Jews now unknown?yes. i am talking about "american jewish jews", not "american christian jews".
Problem is. Most people think themselves the victim, and not the evil person, so they do not understand how ground breaking the idea is.
>>525763688Yes, though it's still Deuterocanon because the original Hebrew and/or Aramaic texts have been lost as of yet. I know that Martin Luther was very up in arms about not including it because I think it was in 2 Maccabees that spoke about making atonement for the dead, which in time lead to the Catholic doctrine of selling indulgences for the dead and the like, which lead to Martin Luther's famous 95 Theses and what would become the Protestant Reformation and later them being declared Heretics at the Council of Trent.
>>525754345>Is Christianity invalid because Jesus is Jewish?
Imagine this>you are a demon King>you slap some cunt>the cunt slap back>so you beat the shit out the cunt>end of story>you find another cunt>you slap the cunt>>the cunt smile and offer itself as a servant>????What the fuck are you gonna do?
>>525747779>m-my foreskin blood magic book is political! kill yourself, brownie
>>525758725Not only does Christ forgive evil rather than destroy it, but the concept of forgiveness does not work with an eternal hell. Memeflaggots stay losing
>>525764506So what if Jesus is Jewish? What does that mean?
>>525765136Means that your foreskin was sacrificed for Moloch and your own very dick is marked forever like a slave.
>>525765136It means semite religions arent White
>>525765136It means Christcucks are golems. Read the Antichrist by Nietzsche, he explains it better than any anon here can
>>525764939summon some cool demons to slap more cunts for me, torture the cucked dude that i slapped, eat souls, etc.
>>525747779HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed, and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>525758102>The question is, what are the take-aways from those older stories?Enlil was known as Lord Wind to the Sumerians, he was basically the Sumerian Yahweh and akin to Indra for the Vedics (Abzu is Sumerian for primordial sea, Apsu is Sanskrit, Deva/Dingir) and on the microcosmic level Indra is the ruler of the sensory mind. So if we compare this to the verse where it says Satan is the prince of the power of the air and associates him with walking in the ways of this world, that would make Yahweh Satan. In the Elephantine Papyri Jews worshipped Khnum alongside Yahweh, Khnum playing the same role as Enki, the God who warned Ziusudra about Enlils flood and creator of man. Adapa was tricked out of immortality, like Adam, so Gilgamesh sought it and when he found it a serpent stole it from him then shed its skin, symbolizing it's attainment of immortality. The Zohar states that everyone is wearing a serpents skin that they must shed by raising the Serpent of Wisdom up the tree of life. The Sumerians then tied this to their own dying-and-rising God Ningishzida who was known as the "Lord of the Good Tree" and was symbolized by 2 serpents wrapped around the tree, exactly like the Caduceus and the Hindu Ida and Pingala. Now consider that Enoch was taken from Etana who ascended up the tree by riding the eagle that lived at the top of the tree and avoiding being swallowed by the serpent that lived at the bottom. This is obviously where Yggdrasil came from, and the reason for the verse that states "Enoch was taken before he could suffer death", because he had attained immortality by ascending up the tree and dying before he died, AKA he shed his skin. The Serpent of Wisdom in kabbalah also leads one to realize their own identity with Adam Kadmon (cosmic man), this is the same as the Kundalini serpent that ascends through the 7 chakras (seven seals of revelations) that leads one to realize their identity with Parusha (cosmic man), and with Ymir for the Norse.
>>525765116Forgiveness is entirely about detachment, and freedom. Why should your enemy live rent free in your head? Just forgive and move on. The condition of Eternal Hell have nothing to do with forigiveness.
MuH non existent kike on a stick!
>>525765321Congratz. The cunt becomes the source of your entertainment, so you can't live without it now.
>>525765364>>525765558>JESUS NEVER EXISTED based name Chad goes CAPS.
>>525765619Kike wizard name fag = based kkk
>>525765719You need Jesus.
>>525764942I spoke about the title of Rabbi back in Jesus' time to be honorific >>525758683 and Jesus doesn't know any of the works that the Rabbis have and have added to the Law, so it's a big misnomer to refer to Jesus as a Rabbi like we would refer to a Rabbinic Jew as a Rabbi.And yes, during Jesus' ministry, the ministry was for the Jews. But, upon Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, Jesus took the debt of our sins upon Himself, rendering even the Samaritans and then Gentiles to be those who can carry within themselves the Holy Spirit. Since Adam and Eve's fall in the Garden, the Bible kicked off an epic for God's plan to bring Adam and Eve and their descendants back into the Garden to be with God. This isn't just Israel, but ALL of Adam's descendants. God's original plan with Israel was to be set aside from the other nations in order to minister God to those nations. Even in the Law, God laid out how the Gentiles even can come before God, because God wants them in His presence. But Jesus rendered them clean, like how He even rendered eating of all the animals clean, too. Call not what God created unclean.In other words, I can't agree with your sign-tapping.>>525765247Christianity doesn't demand circumcision. You will find a lot of them circumsize anyways (I can't support the practice, especially since the Seed of Abraham has already come (Jesus Christ)), but it does demand Baptism as citizenship into the Kingdom of the New Earth.
>>525758102https://youtube.com/shorts/C54e0DSbnmsThe TLDR for that is basically to understand that Yahweh is Enlil and Dumuzid is Jesus. The correct path is the path for gnosis and shedding your skin, the real meaning of being born again. The Phoenicians landed in the Americas, by the way, and in NA were known as the Mississippian Mound Builders, the Si-Teh-Cah, the Anasazi, and the Adenas. They built Cahokia which has "woodhenge" that tracks the suns death and rebirth every year.
>>525765598based. its symbiosis. the cuck likes getting cucked, and i get off to cucking him. perfect harmony, as yahweh intended it.
>>525765719glowies can filter my posts and settle about their miserable lives and eternal servitude to Moloch that way.
>>525765822How can I need someone that never existed? Makes no sense. You’re mentally ill + low IQ.
>>525765942The cunt eventually gain more power, and overthrow you, so now you have to play the role of the cuck.
>>525749288By their works shall you know them
>>525747779Christians were born to serves Jews.
>>525755537Because you're terminally porn brained
>>525766470You have to suck christians dick, and offer your woman to them. Who is actually the servant here?
>>525753118memeflags are all kikes, avoid answering to them
The cross represents the open box. All laws are jewish trash meant to keep you confined.
>>525747779Jesus was a pharisee. Sorry.
>>525765289What does Nietzsche say in his book?>>525765468I want to know more about Adapa and the other parallel figures, who have been cheated out of immortality by eating the fruit. What exactly happened with them after, or before? What are the big take-aways from this for us to carry with us forwards?Furthermore, I know little of the biblical Enoch, but I don't recall reading where Enoch ascended the tree. What legend is that? Genesis only has that blurb you quoted in my Bible.
>>525766643No, it symbolized life triumphing over death, like the Ankh and the resurrection of Osiris.
>>525765915>I can't support the practiceSpare your kids from that terrible fate.In the future after the A.I nuke event, if the manage to go south and not become radioactive ashes, they will be ready to make things right.
>>525766137damn. he's power hungry like that? then he deserves to be demon king. hats off. gg, wp. crowns off, even!
>>525766713And the cult of saturn?
>>525747779>and so long as this world has the two masters it hasThe separation of state and religion, characteristic of Christianity, is stupid and leads to atheism, because if religion doesn't matter in the "worldly" world, it's just a hobby.
>>525765923>The Phoenicians landed in the AmericasThis I'm not so sure about. What do we have to directly link the Phoenicians to the Anasazi and the like?Also, the famous Stonehenge and other stone circles especially found in Celtic lands were also used for similar uses. They're also really good at showcasing the Paranatellonta relationships of stars in lieu with the horizon and at the cardinal points. Their Druids were very much interpreters of the stars, and the Native Americans weren't slouches when it comes to that either (especially the Mayans, though I think the Quechua/Inca were well versed in it, too).Parallel themes don't equate to them being one in the same.
>>525766981Atheism is a result of arrogancy. All atheists are arrogant little shit who think they are better than religious person, and God.
>>525766709Adapa became the first of Apkallu priests and was known in Babylon as Oannes. These same priests were the Saptarishis, the pioneers of the Vedic religion. >The big takeaways That you must die before you die, as in shed your skin to attain what Adapa was denied. Enoch ascended to heaven, but his older version Etana did the same by ascending up the tree. When the serpent ascends up the tree of life (see here >>525753461) it means he attained moksha and became immortal, as in escaped from samsara. I highly recommend looking into Sufism, there's a reason the Templars were so enticed by it alongside all the ancient solomonic magic they attained while stationed at the Temple of Solomon. Sufism takes from much older Mesopotamian traditions and one of the first Sufi saints was named Dhul-Nun. He grew up in Egypt learning the Egyptian mysteries, particularly those of Osiris where the point was to die and resurrect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6TWKyUY8iEThis is Spider Grandmother who weaved the world into existence after Tawa saw images of it in his mind. The core of Vedanta is pure consciousness and pure energy are the foundation of reality, shakti being the pure energy. This became Spenta Mainyu in Zoroastrianism who is called the "Holy Spirit".
>>525767191>All atheists are arrogant little shit who think they are better than religious personThe other way around kinda often.Unironically.
>>525767279I'm not hiding the fact that I do think I am better than you. Because I am better than you.
>>525767364>>525767191>Atheism is a result of arrogancy.>I am better than you.Your way of thinking is so linear and smart.In just two posts i can see it how bright your ability to be political and convincing is.
>>525766981The modern-day definition of Separation of Church & State has been corrupted. It's specifically Church, and not "Religion". The original state of the separation of Church & State had it be that the State/Temporal Government had no business governing the Church, since God governs the church and God is the supreme authority. The church however is supposed to be able to propose their interests to the state but still let the temporal authorities be temporal authorities.The problem is, America apostatized and are letting anything calling itself a "Religion" be protected by the 1st Amendment and not just legitimate branches of Christianity (The Niceans and their legitimate descendants, meaning that the Anabaptists ought not to be included unless they agree to the Nicean Creed. It's still hubris to say that you can build the church back up from scratch, because only the Holy Spirit can do that and has done that.)
>>525767597Mockery. It exists because you do think you are better than Me.
OP smells like a kike. Doesnt seem to believe in anything but platitudes
>>525747779Biblical Christianity holds whites back , and has been a thorn in our side ever since Protestantism came about. At least the medieval Church understood the subversion in the Bible and made it illegal for normal people to read. They disregarded much of the subversion too and made it into a semi decent White religion for a time.
>>525767119It's unfortunately hidden history, but to give you an example here in North Carolina we have Balsam Mountains. Balsam is a Phoenician word, and the legends of cannibal giants with red hair in the caves there are of the Phoenicians who went underground, just like they did in England where they're called faeries who live under the mounds. Theres plenty of videos and reading you can do about this, but to show you something, this is called the "Bat Creek inscription", found in Tennessee. It's Phoenician writing.
>>525767279This
Linear is good. I want my existence to be as straight as a sword.
>>525766713>>525766823yeah, that's what I figured. Silence
>>525767963I have the Almighty God who is even greater than Me.
>>525761071Also the "lost" Book of Jasher from the medieval period. The first one that got printed by a Christian was a fake that got him arrested for blasphemy. There was more than 1 pseudo Jashers. Opps.
>>525767610Proper Americans are Calvinists, Lutherans, or Anglicans/Episcopalians. Methodists are also acceptable. Roman Catholics and the various flavors of Orthodox should be permitted to live here but their churches should be taxed and they should not be allowed to hold public office. Any other "Christian" should be barred from permanent residency in our Republic. Jews and Muslims should be exiled or killed.
>>525767235I'd like to know how Enoch in Genesis was taken up. It reminds me of how both Elijah and Jesus were taken up. I still don't know about Matsya and Mashyana and their succumbing to temptation by eating the fruit. Would you know more about that?
>>525767677It's impossible to know who is better in a straight form.Probably you are better in many things and i'm better in other ones.We all have our talents.You should read your book more often since it's is in there that every person have it's own very talent gifted by god.But you are here, acting harshly before time. Raising your sword too early and barking like a neurotic stray dog for who ever gets closer.
>>525768019My bad anon I didn't see it. Saturns frequency consolidates sound into matter, that's why he's associated with the material world from Rome to China. What Saturn creates, the sensory mind experiences, thus the association of Yahweh with Saturn was born.
>>525768103Also I guess the Baptists and Reformed Baptists are... acceptable.
>>525768133A battle to the death can always determined who is better. The greatest game.https://youtu.be/LJUCY0V6s4Y
>>525768123The fall in Eden is the fall into physical world where we perceive in a dual nature (the knowledge of good and evil). The flaming sword is compared to lightning striking the tree of life because it's symbolic of the electromagnetic life force descending into the material body where it sits coiled at the bottom like a Tesla coil (see Tesla coil comparison to Egyptian ankh), so to fix the fall you rise that energy (Serpent of Wisdom) back up the tree, trading the flaming swords path down. The fall of Mashya (I apologize for the original misspelling) and Mashyana just symbolizes the same thing, when Genesis was written they simply added the good and evil aspect to better explain the non-duality associated with the tree of life.
>>525764482I never thought of it that way. I saw it more in Sirach which was written a few decades prior. Catholics abused the hell out of selling indulgencies. Not something that should be advertised. It wasn't much of a thing in the Orthodox church. It was an improvement to animal sacrifices at a time of economic hardship.
>>525767825The cost of making and binding books back then also didn't make mass literacy an important thing to develop. I don't mind a large church entity being in charge, but after making the people pay indulgences for sins, a practice foreign to God. The Catholic church, instead of repenting, declared the Protestants as Heretics and cast them out. Today, the populations with the greatest human development index are traditionally Protestant areas, wherein the people learned to read so they can read their Bibles and worship God.>>525767899Has the Bat Creek inscription been carbon dated and verified and all that? Is it legit?>>525768103Unfortunately, Freemasonry took hold of the Republic real quickly. I don't think the Catholic/Orthodox churches should be taxed but they should respect that the government of the nation is of a Reformed/Protestant bent. I'll even let the Baptists go for accepting some Reformed ideas, even though I think their practice of the Sacraments is heretical (Communion and Baptism are symbolic, like one can separate the sign from the divine work). Also, The Restorationists should still be heretics (given the hubris of declaring that we as men can create the true Church, even after the Holy Spirit already did, with Catholicism and the Orthodox churches being descended directly from its earliest incarnation), and the Anabaptists ought to also be, or have a strict non-interference policy. The Mennonites will leave you alone so I'm ok with them to some extent, even if I think what they're doing is the same mistake the Essenes made, and that's the best case scenario.
>jew worshipping generalYAY
>>525768977You are not better than a religious person.
>>525769041>religious personcontradiction. Christcucks are equal to dogs or pigs.
Seriously, do we really have to treat them like human beings?
>>525769098Mockery. You think you are better than a Christian. You are not.
>>525755537It looks like they are nutting Nut from far away. It doesn't help that that their crotch cloths look like dicks.
>>525769185I'm tired of pretending your dogshit religion is worth anythign.
>>525769168You are a garbage cunt who post a garbage meme. That's who you are. Garbage.
>>525768970The Mennonites in particular bother me. Yes, they are generally not problem citizens, and I do appreciate that, but I cannot abide by their pacifism. They live in this nation, enjoying the fruits of the safety and security our military provides, but they refer to our willingness to commit acts of righteous violence as sin and judge us for it. Were it not for the good charity of proper Christians protecting them, they would have been annihilated centuries ago, yet they refuse to contribute to their own protection or our collective protection. It's frustrating. As for the Restorationists, yes they can go. So long as they were trinitarians I would at least offer them exile with their possessions, as opposed to Jews and Muslims who's property I would seize.
>>525769335Keep mocking, and post more stupid meme. It only proves that you are a lowly retard.
>>525768970Yes it is, but some sources try to discredit not out of good faith but to continue the cover-up of the giants who lived here (and still do). The Wicker Man, which was based on real traditions once practiced in England are that of Melqart, who was the dying and resurrecting God of Tyre that was known as the Lord of Fire that symbolized transformation through fire. The Phoenicians would build a giant effigy of him and set it on fire during the Fires of Heaven festival in the spring and the king and the queen would reenact the union of him and Astarte. Today this is still celebrated with the the Fires of Bel (Baal) or Beltane in England and are a reenactment of this, where the Green Man and May Queen go together, they light fires, and dance around the May Pole.
>>525768970>>525769503Look up "Green Man Asheville NC" and count all the businesses named after him. Western NC is a major hub for "real" pagans, not neo ones.
Have a good night anons.
>>525768740My last question is are there any books you would recommend about Mashya and Mashyana?>>525768848I'll have to read through Sirach in the future, but yes, the Catholics made an error in that time. I think that the Protestant Reformation was God telling the Catholic Church to repent, and Martin Luther, John Calvin, and the other reformers still wanted to be part of the Catholic Church but they wanted to fight for and save their church before being cast out as heretics.The Orthodox Church had other issues, namely the Seljuk Turks and then the Ottomans. Meanwhile, the Russian Orthodox Church was the dominant power after Constantinopolis was overrun and exercised their own power, even granting Autocephaly to Georgia (founding the Georgian Orthodox Church). The Russians did later reform their doctrine to be in line with the Greek Orthodox Church. I don't know how it all went down, but the Old Believers came out from that, carrying the old Orthodox tradition with them while being cast out. If the Older Believers fought for the Church and were split away for heresy, then they would be their Protestants. If the Old Believers chose to leave the institution on their own, then they would be Schismatic. Not Heretics, but Schismatics.
>>525769469>>525769394eat shit you fucking FAGGOT
>>525769790I am better than you. Yes.
>>525769862Yeah, your religion is so based, even jews promote it!
>>525769943My religion is the best, and my God is the greatest. I am the best. You are a loser who can't compete. That's why you cling to your race, not having an achievement of your own.Now. Give me more (you). You can't resist it.
>>525769467I'd like to walk something back. I said "Heretics", when I should say, "Restorationism is Heresy". The people I label as heretics are people God wants at His table, and I shouldn't treat them as less. That being said, I think the Mennonites' way of life can only happen when God makes the New Earth. Until then, we're still here, sprouting thorns and thistles from our works. Even their non-violence seems to be sprouting them, too. Evidence for why we need Jesus and should be thankful to God for His love for us.>>525769503The practice of the May Pole and the Midsummer Festival I know has been re-appropriated to be a Christian thing, and I didn't know that the Wicker Man is from Tyre. I do know that God pronounced great judgements on Israel, Tyre, and the surrounding nations for their fornication with idols. I'm still maintaining my skepticism about the Bat Creek Inscription, especially considering Mormonism's claims on the Israelites in America and there being, as of yet, no evidence of them being there, and considering how the Egyptian Papyrus they produced wasn't about what the Mormons said it was but was a Funerary Rite. I forget the exactness of what the Mormons said it was. I do know that fossil records show the peoples in the Eastern United States before the Native Americans to be more Western European than Native American genetically, or, at least, that's what I've heard.
>>525770100>>525770100here's a (you) for a Brother>>525770100>>525770100
>>525767191>>525767279>>525767610Priests and nuns cannot sustain a civilization for even two generations (they cannot reproduce). But at the same time, they are closer to God than ordinary people. That makes no sense. It means that God is placing Christian civilization in the hands of non-religious people.
>>525770100please, its a gift from your jew god
>>525771001You are as predictable as a clock.
>>525770931>The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord, but the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided
>>525769786Possibly the best Deuterocanonical book. Most Christian doctrine derives from it. I would highly recommend reading it. American Boomers would have turned out so much better if they weren't majority Protestant. They absolutely needed to sit down and read this when they were kids. Though it does have a few problematic parts.
>>525747779I cannot be christian or any kind of abrahamist because I think race matters as much as the spirit.I think that like other material forces in this world such as exercise, meditation, prayer, pornography, and drugs, genetics can both negatively and positively influence one's spirit. For some races, their genetics are such that connection to or comprehension of the divine is extremely limited or outright impossible. You can try to 'educate' them all you like about how to nourish the soul, but it's all in vain because they don't have one.Christians on /pol/ will deny it, but their religion is ultimately neutral on race. A nigger who rapes and murders his whole life has just as good a chance of getting into heaven as you or me so long has he says the magic words and repents. Race doesn't exist in the kingdom of heaven. Browns have souls just like you and me.Sounds like a bunch of woke nonsense to me.
>>525771068>>525771262you are dumb as a nigger (as the vast majority of christians are nonwhite)
>>525770931In Catholicism, yes. Orthodoxy does allow for their priests to marry and have children. Protestantism has Ministers, and Monasticism by and large is frowned upon, and it comes from I think what Jesus said about the Essenes who don't use the wisdom they safeguard to cleanse the corruption of their society. That being said, I think it was the Essenes who were responsible for the preservation of what would become the Dead Sea Scrolls.
>>525771481Bitterness, and resentment. Another idiot with a shit life.
>>525771389I think American Boomers were treated too well by this world and, perhaps, the argument can be made that they became friends of it, which is very bad since friends of this world is are an enemy of God. American Boomers need prayers above any other generation if you ask me.
>>525771462In the Kingdom, there won't be sin, so rape and murder won't be a thing.
>>525771262Well, that concept is corrupt and no make sense. How can we expand the faith without the "worldly man" which is the one who breed, who make business and go to war? Are they inferior to the priest?Remember than old testament profets used to fight, be kings and have children.
>>525765915>I spoke about the title of Rabbi back in Jesus' time to be honorificAmong WHO? Nobody is buying your shit you slimy rat fuck>>525765915>I can't support the practiceWhy not? Your evil god demanded it
>>525772189I already explained my reasons in the post you quoted. So, address them if they are problematic. And no, God isn't evil. Quite the contrary.
Bump sausage fest boys!
its a psyop dummyyoure atheists in all but name"jesus christ" in the single greatest thing that ever happened for jews and is sole reason for their success (at your expense) and continued existance.try conceiving of god(s) without the input of jews. you'll thank me later.
>>525771802I don't see the point in endless expansion. The world will eventually die.
>>525768977i think that was the precise moment they went from being christians to being christcucks. forming a human centipede to lift up a gold statue of their jewish overlord, theres really no going back. its uncharted levels of cuckery. its like some shit you only read about in fiction or done for entertainment purposes.https://files.catbox.moe/xhtl9i.mp4abrahamism really is in a death spural. and thats probably not good for jews, who rely on it to keep them safe.
>>525774203>https://files.catbox.moe/xhtl9i.mp4LMAOOO WAT IS THAT?? XDD
>>525769790its a bot btw
>>525774361Mockery. What make you think you are better than Me?
>>525774282levels of cuckery previously thought impossible
>>525774361Catholic cucks and Mudslimes got books from Constantinople. Fixed for you.
>>525767899its upside down anon
>>525747779Christians worship a Jew as God. They believe Israel is the Holy Land. They believe the Jews are God's chosen people. They allowed the Jews to live in their lands for more than two millennia without ever exterminating them. The American ones even mutilate the genitals of their own children to imitate the Jews. Christianity is Judaism for the Goyim.
>>525775562I worship the Almighty God.
>>525775015and when constantinople fell, what happened?those books found their way back into europe where theyd previously been heretical pagan contraband (despite christcuck church fathers reading them in secret to try to better understand their own fake religion), instant enlightenment, dark ages over so great was the discrepancy between the pagan and christian scholars
>>525775562The notion of Jews being God's chosen people is a heresy known as Dispensationalism. This rose up as a result of a certain C.I. Scofield who made the Scofield Reference Bible with help of Jews who wanted to affirm that their covenant was still active by tricking the goyim into giving them their inheritance, like how Jacob managed to trick the inheritance out of his father Isaac so that Isaac gave it to him and not his brother Esau. The Scofield Reference Bible is the King James Bible, no passages edited, but has notes that push for the dispensationalist agenda, and also the doctrine of the Rapture. This is especially prevalent amongst Baptists.
>>525750173Lol, Richard Carrier? That book is a joke in biblical academia, it didn't even pass peer review by his own admission https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/38118It's so sloppy, he uses english paraphrases of english translations to attempt to scrutinize 1st century documents written in hebrew and greek.Look there's plenty of interesting work on a myhtologized Christ (I personally don't buy it, but I've studied a lot of it.) but that's just a shit example.
>>525775938Isn't this just an argument against western "Christianity" then? Orthodoxy is inherently a platonic and socratic system of phylosophy and metaphysics, Catholicism (and by extension protestantism) is in essence golemhood.
>>525762089>Paul>studied under one of the most important pharisee jew rabbisGamaliel was not a rabbi. Not even your jew-specific history websites say he was a rabbi because the time period would be wrong. You kikes lie like you breathe
