>Napoleonic wars - lost America>WW I - almost bankrupted themselves, lost most relevance, destroyed a few empires of theirs>WW II - lost most colonies (not right away, but still), lost half of Europe to America, lost half of Europe to Russia>Current war - became completely dependent on the US, lost Greenland, lost resources, about to lose moreIts like Europe wants to continue fading into obscurity. Why do they keep doing this to themselves?
>>525756093ww1 russia declared war on austria, it was the first involved country to start mobilizationww2 soviets invaded polandcurrent war russia invaded ukraineeurope would be much better off if you only kept to asia where you belong
second polish war which you refer to as 'napoleonic wars' was also caused by russia not adhering to continental blocade and keeping to where it belongs
>>525756093you only "won"ww2 because of the USwithout them, you would not exist anymoreits not about only lend lease, the technology, information, diversion of troops
>>525756093Russia withdrew from ww1 because they collapsedCollapsed another time 1991
>>525756093Because Europe is a joke. Imagine countries were excited to join EU just to get their pillows regulated by some elitist assholes in Brussels.
>>525757731>>525757544his argument wasn't that russia wins wars with europe, his argument was that those pesky europeans keep on attacking russia
>>525757942This is really weird - why would anyone willingly give up control over their own destiny and hand it over to Brussels?
>>525758004No, he asks pseudo-questions to create a fixed narrative that Russia has defeated everyoneHe connects events that have little connection to each other except that they happened in a similar time period.its called a retarded zigger shill thread
>>525758157Deliberate brainwashing
Perhaps in some sense the whole question of Europe for the last 2000 years has been a debate of who should have control of the whole thing and the further along we get the more the answer looks like the Russkies. The HRE had a shot, the French had a shot, the Scandis kinda had a shot, but as time progresses the possibilities of Western/Anglo/Northern Europe close down and the possibilities of the frozen Russians expand. Spiritually it seems obvious that Europe and Europeans should be ruled from the north, since it's the experience of winter that creates and recreates the European man - those that wander too far south inevitably become Latins of some sort, progressively more tanned and too relaxed. The Russkies themselves have the advantage of basically being displaced Scandis if we're talking about the Moscow stock, contact with the spiritual touchstone of the unending steppe, and the greater advantage of fairly consistent imperial-style rule over multiple ethnicities. The Moscow stock on top has much experience with managing Central Asian underclasses, which they'd pivot well into dealing with Europe's new, likely permanent Muslim underclass.The Anglosphere has a different destiny and a different sensibility. The perfidious, sea-born Anglo can only wreak havoc in the cthonic nations of continental Europe. We'd do them much more good leaving them to Russia.
>>525756093We're not at war with Russia howeverthoughbeit.
>>525756093Russia lost WWI. They would have lost WWII too without western aid. They lost the Cold War too.
>>525756093>>525756918>>525757379>>525757544>>525757731>>525757942>>525758004there are several major powers in Europe, and they can be listed as follows:MoscowWarsawBerlinParisLondonThese powers have hundreds of years of struggle for who to gets to call the rules on how Europe should live and be governed. These struggles include: political, cultural, geographic and religious arguments. >Why does Europe keep attacking Russia1. Because of the laws of nature of politics. The "power centers" compete for power.2. Specifically in 2026 - the more accurate answer would be:>Because if Russia gets Ukraine, this means Russian Empire is back. Which means Moscow will get to call the shots in the 21st century, and Paris/Berlin/London will have to take a backseat, potentially forever.
>>525758503>WarsawYou got to be kidding, lol
>>525758603>You got to be kidding, lolhistorically, Poland tried to seize control of the Russian royal throne. Maybe you forgot about that?If you go by pure size, these are the biggest countries in Europe:>Russia>Ukraine>Poland>Germany>France>SpainIf you go by power-projection in regional division:Eastern Europe:>Russia>PolandWestern Europe:>Germany>France>UKToday Poland has the biggest army out of all NATO members in Europe. Guess why?
>>525758503moscow is not in europegeographically it's debatableand for every other consideration muscovy was a successor state of the mongol horde which makes russia an asian country and russians an asiatic people>>525758887>Poland tried to seize control of the Russian royal throneliterally never happened. boyard offered polish king muscovy's throne, our king never even bothered to show up
>>525756093Say Ivan, are you in the part of russia that is going to be taken by the chinese or the one that will become an indian colony?
>>525758887>Today Poland has the biggest army out of all NATO members in Europe.Yeah, but its Poland. Come on, you can't be serious. Turkey alone has twice the army size and its just a middle power.
>>525759097>moscow is not in europeMoscow is literally in Europe, and Russia represent 40% of the European continent geography.>geographically it's debatableit's not debatable, wtf are you smoking>and for every other consideration muscovy was a successor state of the mongol hordeit doesn't matter>literally never happenedeven ChatGPT disagrees with you, see picrel
>>525759408>Yeah, but its Poland. Come on, you can't be serious. Turkey alone has twice the army size and its just a middle power.doesn't matterI'm not saying Poland can defeat Russia in a war. I'm saying Poland represents a power pillar in Europe, and is stronger than Hungary, Czechia, Romania, Bulgaria
>>525758603We took your capital and for retaking it you celebrate with national holiday in calendar, stop being funny.
>>525756093That's not all, there was also the Great Northern War, attacks by Teutonic Knight, wars with Polan-Lithuania. All wars of aggression against Russia.
>>525756918FPBP
>>525758481Wrong. Russians are mixed with the unholy asiatic hordes, which basically brings them on the level of niggers, didn’t you fucking read patton? He was spot on. Are you some veiled vatnik shill?
>>525759896>patton>asiatic hordesis this a satire post?
>>525756093The current war is an American proxy war, it has nothing to do with Europe. If you're too dumb to understand that, then there is no future for your AIDS-ridden shit hole country. German people need to do a regime change asap so we can end all conflicts with America's enemies and focus on harming the American people instead.
>>525756093>Why?Because statism is a death cult.
>>525756918In WW2 millions of Russian/Ukrainian and Soviet soldiers died in part to free your country from Nazi Germany, which completely leveled the place. They gave you tons of land Germany took over the years and evicted you from eastern lands you stole but here you are bitching. Why is everyone in your country such a spastic retard?Also the 2 prime motivations of WW1 was Britain's meddling in the continent and more immediately Germany and Austria-Hungary's desire to use the assassination of some guy in a foreign country they occupied, to take the other half that was unoccupied. There was no reason to go to war with Serbia, which AH did with the full backing of Germany, both wanted war and they knew the consequences of what they were doing.
>>525759564You sure like to type, but you don't like to go back
>>525759106>part of russia that is going to be taken by the chinesenice fairytale that lives rent-free in NAFO virtual reality, but has absolutely zero science behind it in academic politics>or the one that will become an indian colonyIndia doesn't even gave a land border with Russia
>>525756093Actually good idea, we should do that again. But this time for realI need to get me some real estate in colder areas, coz I hate the summers here
>>525760088>You sure like to type, but you don't like to go backBecause I'm intelligent, and you're seething
Because they're controlled by Jews that hate them and want to destroy them.
>>525759564Idk, to me poles will always be merely funny turnip-head people that like to complain a lot. Hard to take them seriously
>>525760196Ok, you can be intelligent to go back
>>525759476because europe is not a conventional continent it's border is a matter of agreement, it's been moved several timesmeanwhile civilization/culture is a what distinctly separates europe from not-europe>>525760071millions of them died to subject us and make us a part of their khaganate which they tried numerous times before, fuck them it's a shame they didn't all die
>>525760379well you need to start taking your future more seriously then.Same as Ukraine was built-up by USSR as a spearhead against NATO during the cold war, were the cold war to turn hot - now NATO is building up Poland as a spearhead against Russia were the Ukrainian conflict to spill-over the Ukrainian borders.However, the majority of this build-up is driven by Poles' own revanchist sperging on the highest levels of the government. They WILL try to take Kaliningrad, and they WILL try to demolish Minsk at the very least, if shit goes bad in coming years. And no, you won't stop them by just sending a few gerans towards Warsaw. You'll have to do a semi-SMO with semi-500,000 troops at the very least.
that chatgpt btw repeats exactly what i said except more verbose
>>525760527it's much cheaper for me financially if you'd stop crying you effeminate baby boy
>>525760648A few nukes in Warsaw will calm them down
Awww, look at this angry puny russian and his impotent seething. It's noticeable how recently russians have become really desperate. It's like they too have finally realized they have lost the war they started and are heading towards collapse. You're weak, you lost, get over it.
>>525756093>he says, having spent the past 90 years antagonizing and trying to mess with europek.russnigger
>>525756093>Why does Europe keep attacking RussiaWe are retarded
>>525756093whats it with women, niggers and russians?>always the victim>it was never their fault>if it was their fault, it's you who who made them do it
>>525760534You actually are retarded, you wouldn't exist today. Now as part of the EU or west or whatever, you exist to work for their companies, buy their products and serve and their meat shield. Even during the Cold War you weren't the primary fighting force in a hypothetical WW3, that was the Soviet army. That's why GSFG existed. So fucking stupid.
>>525760534>because europe is not a conventional continent it's border is a matter of agreement,let's start from the fact that Europe isn't a continent to begin with, it's an attachment of Asia>meanwhile civilization/culture is a what distinctly separates europe from not-europewell if we go by civilisation and culture metrics, then Moscow is more Europe than places like Paris and Berlin
>>525760830>We are retardedIf by "we" you mean jeets, then yes. Also, you have to go back prakyush.
>>525760751>A few nukes in Warsaw will calm them downsame for Kievwe're waiting for you to do it
>>525760670>that chatgpt btw repeats exactly what i said except more verboseseems you have reading comprehension impediment
>>525760174>gypsy stealing possessions from hardworking europeans.
>>525760926You'll see :)There's a good reason poles only bark but do not bite
>>525760751>A few nukes in Warsaw will calm them down
>>525761184you know the ukrainian war could be ended with a single tiny strategic nuke on Kiev, right?And Ukraine isn't even part of NATO btw, so no threat of retaliation
>>525760883if you look hard enough you will notice other asian cities and even american cities in your graphperhaps being part of western civilization is a better metric than internet accesson a sidenote that graph has no values on it besides i very much doubt there's single city in europe without sanitation electricity water or isn't covered by cellular network
>>525760071>In WW2 millions of Russian/Ukrainian and Soviet soldiers died in part to free your country from Nazi GermanyYou mean after they invaded Poland with Nazi Germany??? And then they infected them with communism like they did my country.
>>525756093This eternal victim act is old Ivan it's 2026 and your government just signed unlimited immigration pact with india. You have bigger problems than Latvia removing some statue of Lenin etc
>>525761341Thanks for confirming that most of Europe is a shithole, and Moscow is the only capital that somehow keeps up with infrastructural modernisation on the scale of top economies
>>525760906By "we" I mean you.
>>525760379You're awfully cocky for someone whose army has been exposed as a total paper tiger. I don't like the americans but they've completely exposed you cucks in the last few weeks.
>>525761283Yeah, but that risks direct nato involvement, which would turn nuclear. If its a nato country attacking, than there are no limits anymore, so nukes are just a matter of when not if
>>525761437moscow is hardly europe
>>525758503Why is Ukraine supposedly so important? Even with Ukraine we outnumber the ''USSR'' over 3 to 1, far more in terms of economics.
>>525760883>Europe isn't a continent to begin with, it's an attachment of AsiaOne of the most retarded things I have ever read here
>>525761472you were literally attacked by Ukraine in the Kursk region, and your territory was taken for a brief moment in time. A non-NATO country that has no nukes can take your territory and you don't respond with nukes, despite your country's nuclear doctrine explicitly stating that any attack on your territory would merit a nuclear response.
>>525756093>Current war - became completely dependent on the US, lost Greenland, lost resources, about to lose morelmao, is there a single Russian that isn't in a constant state of butthurt fueled delusion?
>>525758503so who calls the big shots in europe?
>>525760747Ok, but it can cheaper to go back
>>525761466>a total paper tigerI don't think that Russia winning a war against the 2nd largest country and army in Europe consistutes as being a "paper-tiger". Especially when that second largest country has unlimited money and equipment from all of NATO
>>525761184Your government now has an unlimited immigration pact with india after they threw you to die against Ukraine for years with no end in sight and China is pushing you out of central Asia and the only thing you can think of is to whine about Poland? Lmao
>>525761641Ok, bro. Let the turnip-heads charge and we'll see how it goes
>>525761718>Ok, but it can cheaper to go backI think at this point it's cheaper for you to go back to school and re-learn english
>>525761727Russia losing a war against the poorest country in Europe would make it a paper tiger. Especially when russia is in full war economy mode and throwing everything it can into the war they started, short of mobilization.
>>525761283yeah it would have ended with a wipeout of russiadropping nukes is strictly prohibited by pax americana dropping a nuke equals to committing saddam husain, not even jews are dumb enough to do that>>525761727>winning
>>525761756>and we'll see how it goesI can tell you in advance how it will go.You will deploy Belarussian military to take control of the Suwalki Gap, and move Russian troops into Tallin, Riga and Vilnius.You will have complications, and the operation will go slower than expected. While your government will try to resolve obstacles, about ~100,000 of your fellow comrades will die a pointless death.You will eventually win, but no nukes will be used.
>>525761784Ok, but when are you going back?
>>525761922>Belarussian military to take control of the Suwalki GapMy sides
>>525761342The USSR never bombed the entire country or sought to absolutely destroy it. It's funny how people gloss over this fact. The only reason Poland even exists today is because of the USSR. It cost an immense amount of blood and lost lives. Had they stopped just at the border of the USSR all the countries in eastern Europe would not exist today. They didn't leave Poland as a small rump state either, they gave them a lot of land and made it a large state. They are, in fact a great benefactor if you look at things objectively. But remember: as Churchill said, Poland is the greedy hyena of Europe, and look how they lie about shit they know is an outright lie. Like jews or muslims do.
>>525761829>Russia losing a warwinning>against the poorest country in EuropeEU/US in total have supplied Ukraine with more cash, than the total GDP size of Ukraine. In addition, EU has sustained over 800 billion euro in damages by 2023. By 2026, by most moderate estimates, EU may have lost over 2 trillion euros due to its gamble on Ukraine. Now EU needs to seize Russian assets to continue funding Ukraine, because EU has no money left.So much for your "poor country" argument, when all of EU is bankrupt payrolling Ukraine in this war
>>525761922belarus does not have a military. they only have kgb which is only good for brutalizing civilians
>>525761907>pax americanalmao
Because Jews moved to the Netherlands and then England after losing in Spain and have been profiting from loans from war and rebuilding ever since.
>>525761922>You will eventually win, but no nukes will be used.Oh well, I guess that means a few million lives in Poland will be spared, which is good
>>525762090>belarus does not have a military. they only have kgb which is only good for brutalizing civiliansfactually inaccurateat this point Belarus is pretty much Russian territory, and Belarus can have as many soldiers as Russia decides Belarus should have.Did you forget why your 2020 coup of Lukashenko failed?
>>525762013The ussr slaughtered my people even as early as 1920 when they tried and failed to occupied the country. Then they began mass murders of Poles in 1937-1938 before allyijg with Germans to invade in 1939 after occupying Baltic states. Then after ww2 they ethnically cleansed large parts of Poland and established a violent Jewish police state that tried to turn our language into non binary genderless slop and replace all traditions and history thankfully they failed.
>>525762216>The ussr slaughtered my peoplewouldn't have happened if you didn't invade Czechoslovakia in 1938fuck around = find out
>>525761922>You will eventually winMy sides
>>525762074When are you going back to russia?
>>525762209Belarus does not have any military and Russia can't even beat Ukraine they can't expand the front because they will have catastrophic collapse and Russia already showed it has no tactical sense so believing a operation involving Belarus to invade Baltic regions is ridiculous. Russians even fled from kherson. In reality russia is currently in unwinnable war and putin has no idea how to end it in a way that doesn't end in a russia coup
Feels pretty comfy to be an American and we can do a SMO against a spic regime and abduct their brownoid leader and claim their natural resources and absorb into their sphere of influence . And russians have to fight against euros who arent low iq brownoids so its actually difficult. Its so easy to be hegemon of our hemisphere because everyone else is brownoid spics or libtarded leafs. Must be tough for russians. Hopefully Russia and USA become frens.
>>525762277Russia invaded Lithuania well before 1939. We have good relations with czechs and slovaks
>>525762400Pokrovsk status?
>>525762216If you want to talk about the Polish-Soviet war, you need to tell the truth and mention that the pre-war borders included Ukrainian land you occupied. So why don't you stop lying already.Lviv or Lvov or whatever was established by a Russian prince, you took it over and tried to make it a Polish city and screech daily about it. This is why I said that the USSR could have just left you a landless rump state, but they did not. I'm sure there are people in Russia or Ukraine who know what their nations and ancestors suffered who after reading this are probably thinking you should have just been left to die instead.
>>525762277we took back cieszyn which czechs occupied in 1918 while we were busy fighting off a bunch of steppeniggers trying to bring us world jewcommunism
>>525762418You got it easy! Hopefully we can come to terms after you guys take Greenland
>>525756093Cute narrative you have going
>>525762512>it's cool when we annex landsrussia is taking back novorussia then
>>525762462I've been seeing >[insert] statusmemes since 2022 and Russia has yet to capture a single region in ukraine>>525762473Incorrect. In 1919 the Soviets launched an invasion of Ukraine which led Ukraine to go to us and requested aid which is ironically where we first had contact against Russia. Russians then slaughtered people in ukrainian countryside and really made them suffer with food seizures and mass executions and population transfers. Ultimately they were defeated in 1920 >>525762596Doesn't look that way
>>525762777>memes since 2022 and Russia has yet to capture a single region in ukraineoh Really? Then who controls 100% of Luhansk region? Care you tell us? We're all clueless here>Doesn't look that wayif you refuse to open battle maps, then of course it doesn't look that way to you, retard
>>525761120>hardworking europeans
>>525762921why not post a video that's from 1900s?
>>525756918yeah but this isnt what RT is telling OP
>>525762473>Lviv or Lvov or whatever was established by a Russian princeruthenian, muscovites as a race and a civilization were being created by mongols at more less the same time some 700 km away
>>525756093>Why does Europe keep attacking Russia just to always lose and get weaker in the process?jews
>>525763010Here's what 4chan is telling you about Sweden tho:They're literally still blasted from how Peter the Great imprisoned their king, released their king after signing a peace treaty, then killed their king after he decided to renege the treaty, then took their status as an empire and a great power. Then, after taking their role in the world as an empire, they annexed nearly half of their remaining territory. By the end of this, over half of the former Swedish Empire was within the Russian Empire, which was further the largest empire in the whole world. This is despite the fact that at some point, Sweden had even believed they could have a Russian Tsar from Sweden, and considered it a minor aspect of their royal patrimony! These people have been utterly destroyed by a country they once considered their vassal, and now they're still afraid to this day. It's national trauma, and your own compatriots' fear of Russia, their own tales of Russian wrongs against their countrymen, etc. have all been mere shadows of this which were born from Swedish butthurt against Russia during the period in which Finland remained part of Sweden after the Great Northern War. They even act neutral, but do they act like they prefer being neutral? They don't actually like being neutral. They want to become a great power again and they know there's no way to do that while Russia exists, needing to pass through the region to access the Atlantic. They build up entire industries to back their military, keeping on par with US and Chinese breadth and selling abroad almost never. Does any other neutral country have its own domestic arms industry on this scale? They bide their time with numerous defenses and attempt to avoid being completely subjugated by Russia out of fear, crying in their overpreparedness about how Russia could steamroll through both them and Finland within a mere month, and you watch in awe and say "Why do they do this?"
>>525763037>ruthenian, muscovites as a racenot a race lmaogo back to school to learn biology
>>525762777Literally none of what you said is true. You're just a vulture state. You attacked Kievan Rus after the Mongol invasion to take land, what else is new. The major motivation of the Polish-Soviet war was to reunite the Ukrainian land you occupied, which I also should mention that Ukrainians are really called Ruthenians and this new nomenclature just started to take root around that time.Also the only time a Ukrainian state ever existed was by the creation of communists so that plus the fact the entire country was previously just the Russian empire and administered as such leads to weird logical impossibilities and inconsistencies so did the USSR invade itself? Actual nonsense.
>>525763089you typed this in a minute?motherfucker i'm talking to a bot herefuck it i'm out
>>525762898They do not control any regions and it's now 2026. In a war like this Russia will have 3 phases>main war Which they are still fighting with no end in sight>occupation phaseWill need huge amounts of permanent soldier garrisons and population resettlement>insurgency phaseAs we saw in 1980s Ireland there will of course be insurgency with drones, bombs etc. Russia in 1980 had a large army and was defeated in Afghanistan with huge losses. In Ukraine they have lost far more men and material and also clearly lack competent leaders which they will not be able to replace for at least 2-5 years
>>525763089its impressive how you somehow manage to write all that in a minute
>>525762532We sure do got it easy. We are further cementing our control after the capture of maduro. A lot of spics in the hemisphere support it. Theyd rather be under an American thumb and they're right that its better. Chinks are raping their fisheries. We dont do that and our military equipment is better. Cuckduro got BTFO. Narcos are a huge problem in the western hemisphere. I dont think euros or russians or asians or africans fully grasp how bad the problem is. The whole hemisphere could be so much better. Crushing the narcos would be huge and the spic nations understand that they cant do it on their own. For a lot of reasons the drug trade needs to be done away with
>>525763221It's obvious russian propaganda script where everyone is the aggressor etc.
>>525763221>its impressive how you somehow manage to write all that in a minuteit's a famous post from few months ago, I saved it when I saw it. I paste it everytime I see a femboi seething swede>It's obvious russian propaganda script where everyone is the aggressor etc.you're an eternal victim of Russia, kinda lika a jew. Oh wait
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>>525763037What does Ruthenian mean? There are another East Slavic, Orthodox Christian and East Slavic speaking people even west of Ukraine, into Slovakia and Poland called "Rusyns".>Ruthenian>RusynWeird, what could these words mean? What are they referring to? Oh right, they are just literal exonyms for RUSSIAN i.e. Rus, obviously. Same language, ethnicity, religion. Same exact people and always have been. Off topic but this proves also that "Kievan Rus" isn't a true historical name, it was simply called Rus and that's how external people recognized them as well. Otherwise it would be "Kievan Ruthenian" and so on. Pic related is a painting depicting a Ruthenian Noble's funeral. This is straight Rus Viking shit.
>>525763221It likes to type, but does like to go back
Europe should unite: a Russian queen and an Austrian king to rule the continent. Drive out the mudslimes and the kikes, restore order, abolish women's rights and genocide africans.
>>525756093>Napoleonic wars - lost Americapidorussian education on full display. The US Declaration of Independance: July 4, 1776, the American Revolutionary War (April 19, 1775 – September 3, 1783), the Napoleonic Wars (1803–1815).russia lost WWI and signed the humiliating Treaty of Brest-Litovsk with the Central Powers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, Ottomans, Bulgaria) in March 1918.
>>525756093Euros are so retarded that they want to fight Russia over Jewkrania and at the same time fight the United States over Greenland; I don't think they can fight on two fronts.
>>525763925Based
>>525761568>Why is Ukraine supposedly so important?It's a retarded conflict that everyone else can donate some old shit to and cripple Russia's political reach and military for decades. It's like Afghanistan (either USSR or USA) or Vietnam. It's just practical to keep your rivals occupied in a bad decision.
>>525763839ruthernia is a latinisation of rus which in turn there are two actual historical; regions called ruthenia - both in today's belarus but in larger scope it's the name for federalization of tribes that took place between memel and dauguva riversrussia is in volga basinruthernian denounces people from those tribes, rushyns are an ethnicity of them that live to this day in carpathiansrussia in volga basin (historically known as muscovy) was not a part of that federalization however muscovites did at one point did slaughter off novogrodians and steal their identity which is the reason for naming confusing to non-slavic speakers
>>525765323Then why was all of Rus ruled by the Rurikid dynasty, who united the Eastern Slavs into one polity? Who came from Sweden or Finland then united, ultimately making their capital Kiev? And if that's not true, how are all Eastern Slavs (including Rusyns) Orthodox? Were they not Christianized by Vladimir the Great (A Rurikid who ruled Rus). Look up the founder of Lvov and see what ruling dynasty he belong to. It's too easy to deboonk this nonsense, just stop.
