Is leftism really that bad?
>>525816118europeans also smell
>>525816118Why do we still have leftists then?
>>525816118yes
>>525816118This is not what leftism is. Rightoids think that anything which is not rightism must be leftism.
>>525816118European healthcare is shit.I live in one of the countries with better healthcare systems on the continent, but it's still shitty. American healthcare is more expensive, but also better.Wait times are long and with public health insurance you are waiting in line with niggers, boomers, refugees - everyone who's time has zero value - as a working and tax-paying adult.Yes, there is a private system as well, but that means that you pay double: once for healthcare for all the useless people and once for yourself.
>>525816118>better quality of lifeDebatable>better healthcareCheaper, but not better. They have lower 5 year survival rates>higher payLol>lower retirement ageIt's the same as the US and going up now that they're starting to pay for a military again instead of just relying on America.
Europe has no fucking military. They are getting subsidized.
>>525816752Military to defend against who?
>>525816118the people who say this never lived in Europe btw, or only visited one of the richer countriesat the same time, the Europeans who gloat how much better they have it come from one of the richer countries and compare themselves to some broke flyover statethe US just practices more personal responsibility. you are free to do what you want (for the most part), but that also means you are free to fuck yourself if you decide to do so.we drag every fucking loser along, at the expense of those who work hard, whereas the US is more prone to just letting losers lose, as they should.
>>525816118Yesleftism is judaism leftism is built on lies to be a leftist you have to be hate filled and dishonest >inb4 buh capitalism is jewishShut the fuck up you leftist fucking spineless little scum fuck piece of shit kill yourself You are spiritually jewish and the fact you can only think of immediately shifting the blame proves it You are jews, the core tenant of judaism is social justice ie leftism (The hidden tenant is money which is capitalism)
>>525816118We understand. it's just the fact that our government is afraid of the terrorist group known as jews and will do nothing to protect it;s citizens from their terrorism.
>>525816118Most conservatives are dirt poor and live in rural america where there are no white collar jobs.They're the easiest and cheapest sheep to herd because they're dumb as shit.
>>525816118European workers dont have free speech and arent allowed to heat their homes in the winter. Leftists are masters at fake polls and fake narratives. European workers dont even have the right to defend themselves from the less expensive replacements who are literally raping their children.Germany just sent the mercedes A class production to hungary.Op is a dumb know nothing moron.
leftism is true.>leftist society>right wing emerges to protest against it>the right wing is shaped by the left and the right response is completely a reaction>the left just eases back for a decade>the right thinks it has won something, their current position would have been unthinkable to a right thinking person just 30 years prior>this repeats foreverthe best bit is when the right kills someone it is usually because they are a criminal committing some heinous act. and everyone acts like this is horrible rightwing oppression. when the left kills someone it is usually a criminal unjustly murdering someone for no reason. and everyone acts like this was justified as a response to right wing oppression.so the right cannot defend itself or can it enforce laws nor can it get sympathy when it gets killed. whereas the left is winning no matter what happens. anyone with two brain cells to rub together realises there is zero change a right ideology ever becomes dominant, and that type of thinking has been fighting on it's backfoot since the time of the ancient greeks - where the old pervert socrates wanted to destroy greek society and banishment and suicide just made his movement stronger.
Maybe ask a Californian.
>>525816118All those people who built Europe from the ashes of WW2 are dead and their ideas ignored.
Because we have a gigantic tax funded military that helps defend Europe which allows them to allocate more money to quality of life.
>>525816118>better quality of lifeNot really, Germany was just without power because of a deranged Leftist not too long ago, Germany is losing more jobs as Mercedes moves production out of Germany over the regulations.UK is fucked, Sweden is fucked, France is fucked, no other nations really matter.Another issue was for a while, America was paying more for medicine just so the rest of the world could have it for cheaper. Our insulin was like 300 dollars so EUfags could get theirs for 20.Also idk if getting stabbed by a muslim committing a weekly attack or "incident" as they say these days is higher QOL.>Better HealthcareFalse, it might be more accessible/cheaper but it isn't better. Every major disease ends up in America. Those 4 tourists that contracted Ebola a decade ago were in Nebraska because it's one of the best hospitals for treating shit like that.Instead you'll bleed out waiting to be seen because you're behind Abdullah, and his wife who are going to the ER for free care because her eyes are swollen shut and his fists hurt too much from punching her around the kitchen. Also they take a higher priority than you, your own governments say this.>higher payFalse, woefully false. Maybe if you compare it to the worst jobs in America or think that because min wage is like 8 dollars that somehow is what most people get paid. Base pay in my area is like 20 an hour for basic jobs and I don't have 2000 a month in rent.>lower retirement ageYour government didn't jew a bunch of boomers into a pyramid scheme, spend all the money then warp it into "No no, now you pay for them, then when you are old other people pay for you!" Instead of you know, saving it like a government sanctioned 401k like it was presented as but alas.
>>525817204>tax fundedyou mean debt funded right
>>525816118By leftism, do you mean CIA/MI6/Mossad approved socdem Ponzi schemes that benefit the American empire? Because it seems that if you scratch a western leftist, you find a ZOG shill.
>>525816118>better quality of lifelol. lmao.
>>525817095No one is reading this you stupid bunkertroon You and the leaf flag are also so obvious may as well namefag at this point.Im going to call you frank so that way whenever i see your posts i can say hey frank and you will know you have done a terrible job at trying to sneak in So hey frank
>>525817303>america where you'll go bankrupt if you go to college or have no insurance
>>525816848This future president.
>>525817444isn't that the guy who married a shitskin?
>>525816254Yet they depicted the niggers acting like gentlemen.Not even they could foresee we'd give away our countries to apes still acting like apes.Boggles the mind, it does.
>>525816118europe is a shithole.
I hate when Ameritards talk about "Europe" like it's some kind of unified place. Everything east of Berlin and south of Nice is largely a poverty stricken shit hole with living standards way worse than your average americlap experiences.
>>525816118Getting stabbed by muslims is a better life?
>>525816118>European workers have a better quality of life, better healthcare, higher pay, and a lower retirement ageLeftymutts are delusional fags.
Canada is what you people are advocating. Kill yourselves. We pay half our money in tax and its an unfordable hellhole, leftists opened the borders for 30 years and now leftists keep voting left. Thats your utopia. Free healthcare, just wait 2 years for an MRI half of india is ahead of you in line. Mc Squared, guarantee it, wants more indians, and opposes racism towards indians. 100% Its called communism, they also support Putin.
>>525817594better than getting shot in the face by the police
>>525816619Americans also pay double, per capita based on public tax expenditures we have the most costly system in the world and it’s not even close. And that’s just taxes. That’s not counting the insurance and the copays you have to pay to get basic care in America.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capitaThe average American taxpayer pays 2x as much in taxes to support the healthcare system than the MOST expensive euro country
Me and a cousin in France had kidney stones around the same time. From me pissing black to getting surgery to remove it was 10 days, would've been sooner but there was a holiday when my labs went out, after insurance the whole thing costed me a little under $1,000. My cousin took 3 months to do the same for free and his pain meds were half as strong as what I got.
>>525816118>higher paylol. lmao even
>>525817714I know. But at least the American gets something for it.The system here worked well 30 years ago.Now there is fewer doctors, fewer payers and many more patients. So everything gets rationed in one way or another (mostly by wait times).
>>525817789americans feel they get paid more but in reality they just use credit more for everythingcompare average debt between america and europe it's laughable
>>525817944If you pay for private healthcare in your country, then even when you add in your taxes, you are still not paying as much as Americans do in taxes alone to support our system.
>>525817272She literally supported sending j6 protestors to jail. Holy shit I hate this dumb fucking moron.
>>525816118POSTED IT AGAIN JEWARDYOU FUCKING JEWS ARE DONE, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU USELESS SACKS OF SHIT WITH YOUR HORRIBLE THREADS
>>525817978Bro I make $50k making boxes at Hobby Lobby
>>525818497yeah and your average new car price is 50k lol
>>525816118modern leftism is. we can have socialism without the anti white dogma. I will not tolerate systemic racism towards whites to own the capitalists
>>525818580retard right now america is the most anti white country on earth
Is there really no public sector to American healthcare?? Do people who can't afford treatment just fucking die??
>>525818691>Do people who can't afford treatment just fucking die??you can open a gofundme or pray
>>525816118Then move to europe>>525816848Hopefully USA after we take greenland, mexico, canada, were gonna save europe (again) from itself
>>525818728your government only cares about isreal tho
>>525817708Why?
>>525816619>>525816118>be me>have relatives in France>they only get healthcare because they're related to high-ranking doctors, otherwise they'd be waitlisted for years>meanwhile, my relatives in the US>despite not working a steady job for 10+ years>get major surgery (when needed)>for freeThanks obama
>>525818845cops are supposed to work for the people
>>525818853>for freelol add another trillion to the debt
>>525817783the lack of pain meds is the same here and it's based desu. Opioid addiction is terrible, and the only reason pain meds are so common in america is so the sackler kikes can destroy whites while getting rich at it.Had a similar situation though. I can get an MRI scheduled and completed within a week or two here and it costs almost nothing (but still costs something, deterring the leeches)Meanwhile, family in France gets to wait 3 months.
>>525816118I wish i lived in the Europe these retards imagine
>>525819001what you think america is better?they get shot by their own police all the time
>>525816118Difference is in America you can become a billionaire if you work hard enough. In Europe it's only if you're part of the aristocracy.
>>525818894thats the sheriffs office, which is a democratically elected county position. police work for the city.
>>525816267We don't, we have 1990s economic neoliberalism wrapped in a rainbow flag
>>525819100maybe after your 10 year college loan and your 50 year mortage>>525819118federal police are shooting white women on the streets
>>525816118leftist redditniggers are so fucking delusional those conditions are fading leftovers from when Europe was mostly homogeneous as more arrests are made for social media posts, and as places like Sweden become rape capitals of the world, that reputation will continue fading Europe is just about fucking finished and the things that brought them so low are the things that evil, programmed retards want to implement here in the US
>>525818894Which people? And you are still being killed in both scenerios. And to a more minor point, being stabbed up and bled out is way more painful awful way to die. And these captchas here are atrocious so i will not be responding to this today
>>525819240I've been to sweden and I bet you it's more safe than any of the major cities in america LMAO
>>525816118I'm pretty sure I will never get to retire, and the average wages here are like half that of the American equivalent.
>>525819447now look up how much the average american is in debt
>>525816118>Is leftism really that bad?No, it's even worse than that.
>>525817204>helps defend Europe>from enemies you create out of greed/loyalty to israelI hate mutts so much it's unreal
>>525816118the problem with leftism or communism is that the people you vote to lead you that speak so well about how wonderful your future is going to be will inevitably betray you.The moment they get in power they understand that if they make things better for poor people they will vote against them.
>>525816118Europe is stagnant.We are in the middle of a tech boom and not a single tech company is european.They are stuck technologically in the early 2000s.This will only get worse as time goes on.
>>525817517It really isn't, mutt
>>525816619>European healthcare is shit.*healthcare is shitbrutal trvke.unless you live somewhere were providers want to do business, you'll struggle no matter where you live.
>>525819890can you describe this "tech boom" you talk about?all I see is stupid image generators
>>525817581Pretty sure Poland and Czech are doing ok. Some areas in spain and Italy are nice.
>>525816118Yet the left still wants to send hundreds of billions to Ukraine and ensure that Europe does not have to pay for its own defense.
>>525820205who pays for the defense of isreal though?
>>525816118america has worse quality of life because the population is mostly mongrels and the government is mostly jews. nothing to do with socialism
>>525820205Americans blaming Europe for defense spending is ridiculous
>>525819165You are getting leftists confused with liberals. Retard.Liberals believe capalism can be reformed, guns are for government authorities only, private property is a good thing to maintain high living standard and minimum wage should be raised so everyone can afford those standards.Leftists believe capitalism cant be reformed and its working as intended so we need a new system (socialism, Marxism etc), guns should be for everyone to fight over reach of a tyrannical government, private property is the reason poverty exists and money shouldn't be a requirement to live.Thats not the extent of the differences but I cant be arsed typing them all out. Liberals are faggotsT. Leftypol
>>525817944> But at least the American gets something for it.We really don't. I don't think you realize just how common it is for claims to just get flat-out denied by american health insurance. No wait list, no delay, just a simple flat "We've decided not to pay for your liver transplant, thank you for being a valued customer."
>>525820448yeah I've seen people having to start gofundmes for their treatmentsreally sad
>>525816903>free to fuck yourself>exactlyNo risk, no reward. We're doing right now politically, upsetting the old global order. And it may fail. Or, we end up ahead, way ahead.
>>525820448>We've decided not to pay for your liver transplant>because you're a serial alcoholicMy dead sister-in-law in fact. Did it to herself.
>>525819676It does not change the fact that you literally pay for your defense less because of us
>>525820733yeah anon read about luigi mangioni and tell me if you really think insurance companies are fair
>>525820365Frame it however you want. Have whatever opinion you want. The fact remains you do spend less on defense than us because of us.
>>525820446i ain't reading all thati'm happy for u thoor sorry that happened
>>525820950who funds the defense of isreal anon please tell me
>>525821024We do and they also have better healthcare than us
Billionaires don’t have enough money to fundamentally change people’s way of life if they were taxed more. As usual liberals just run off emotion rather than facts.
>>525819890If it's a 'boom', why are they all having to shuffle money around to pump up their figures?The only reason they're seeing 'high revenue' is because they're playing the shell game with billions upon billions of dollars.There is no underlying profitability. There is only a pyramid scheme glorifying numbers to pull in retail 'investors' (aka schmucks with more money than intelligence).
>>525821163>sorry bro we can't force walmart to stop paying their workers below living wages they have to keep signing up for food stamps
>>525816118yes, have you ever been near a big city ghetto?the left wants everywhere to look like that
>>525816267transgenders rape kids
>>525821323and conservatives cover up for pedophileswhere are the files anon?
>>525821237How about some math Mr Marx all your doing is proving my point
>>525820817then why would you cry about the consequences of your grift in Europe? Even if you could say you were defending western europeans from le gommies, you've overstayed your welcome by around 30 years
>>525821364>he thinks billionaires report their actual wealth to the public
>>525820835>fair.gov intervention to make insurance "fair" ruined it.
>>525820622>No risk, no reward.Yeah, but at the same time, if you take a risk and it backfires on you, it should also be you who suffers the consequences.Which is mostly the case in the US, and less so in Europe.Which is why Europe is very quickly going to shit. People no longer care about fucking everything beyond recovery because it's someone else who has to pay the bill for it anyway
>>525816118Yes, Leftism is Shit and uglyAnd also Democrats turned democracy into shit
>>525816985>to be a leftist you have to be hate filled and dishonest>Shut the fuck up you leftist fucking spineless little scum fuck piece of shit kill yourself
>>525821645conservatives celebrated the murder of a white woman by a public employee lmao
>>525816325Exactly, that's the point! Leftism caused by those retards in power
>>525821479Most do, yes. Their 'wealth' is in stocks. Stocks that are publically traded. Stocks who's owners are known.It's the 'royals' (rothschilds, saudi's etc) that don't report their wealth.
>>525820270It's unfortunately the same thing for Israel that it is for Europe.
>>525821807yeah when americans say they are defending the interests of white people they are lying
>>525816985Exactly, thats why Leftism is judaism and leftists went fucking insane, it's time to Ban the Talmud and Make jewish ppl illegal to vote and criminalize the jews just like The National Socialist of Germany did to the jews
>>525821528>it should also be you who suffers the consequences>yepFree to fuck yourself. "That which doesn't kill you..." should be familiar to you.
>>525816118Those people when they mention Europe, they usually mean mostly Northwestern countries and not the former East Block, which are only part of Europe. Those countries are heavily taxed at a level that even a left-leaning American might consider too high. Until the recent period of massive immigration, they were high trust societies. Ther are also many billionaires and corporation.
>>525821361They're buried in the Chihuahuan desert with your family and friends Mexinon
>>525822698imagine how bad must be the files that your orange nigger president would rather force regime changes in the middle east than release the pedo files
>>525822763yeah, must be terrible
>>525822763>imagine how bad must be the files(D) in control of files thru 2 (D) admins. INB4 "It was against the law to leak them!!!"
>>525822994if democrats are in the files why doesn't trump release them?
>>525823072you're not too bright, are you, Paco
>>525823174>nope it can't be that both parties are protecting pedos>my party is LE GOOD>your party is LE BAD>but both keep funding isreal
>>525821886Whoever said that? If anything, it would seem as if our defense spending goes to the protection and promotion of homosexuality.
>>525823247>israel israel ISRAEL ISRAEL ISRAELholy shit shut the fuck up you 60 IQ brownoid subhuman faggot
>>525823279and?what's wrong with homosexuality?>>525823418do both parties fund isreal yes or no nigger?
>>525816267because they don't work either
>>525823686dad what are conservatives trying to conserve other than isreal?
>>525823072>why doesn't trump release them>stability, a guessNot just (D), (R) too. If Congress imploded overnight, martial law? Not sure if country would survive it. And it's likely same reason (D) did not release them either. If there is finally an accounting will bet 60%+ will walk without consequence. Only the worst ones will get punished. "If".
>>525823621Do you believe that defense spending should be used to protect homosexuality worldwide?
>>525823773>conserve other than isrealSupport for Israel not going to be forever - https://matzav.com/netanyahu-israel-aims-to-become-independent-of-us-military-aid-in-10-years/
>>525824197>NO GOY WE DIDN'T RELEASE THE FILES BECAUSE IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS TO THE PUBLIC>>525824203I believe in freedom over your own body, so yes it's a right that must be protected with force
>>525816118There's a bunch of shit that needs to be done, and paying people to not work isn't going to accomplish shit.
>>525824340>so yes it's a right that must be protected with forceFunding of Israel must be quite the dilemma for you then.
>>525824689hilarious isreal isn't even in nato and usa doesn't have a single issue funding their defenseit's like americans don't give a singel fuck about white people
>>525824770fuck every christcuck religionI hope that clears the situation for you
>>525816118>Is leftism really that bad?It's not. You just need to use the other side of your brain too.
>>525824340>TOO DANGEROUS TO THE PUBLICHave yet to see any other reason Paco, have you?
>>525820446>Liberals believe capitalism can be reformedWrong. Liberals thrive in capitalism because they're toxic individuals who are sold IDpol by lobbyists, when they don't get what they want they are told they didn't donate hard enough. Leftists are collectivist ideologues and they are correct that capitalism is working as intended however they don't realize that MMT is entirely socialist, it wouldn't exist without socialist policy. Marx himself was against socializing currency because he accurately knew what it would lead to, perhaps since he was a jew himself but he was also a midwit regarding the nature of humanity towards labour.
>>525824913yeah because they are covering up their crimescan you tell me which information could be too dangerous to the public anon?
>>525818691Medicare/Medicaid
>>525825015defunded by trump btw
>>525825006>too dangerous to the public>stabilityOnce again. You cannot crash Congress in one move but bit by bit. Both parties involved. But if no accounting it won't matter.
>>525824829So protect the fags in Israel from Islam, then?
>>525825452again niggertell me what info could be so dangerous to the public that isn't just to cover up some pedo politician from justice>>525825467yeah protect gay people anon
>>525825071>defunded by trump btwAre you this butthurt because Trump closed the border? Maybe start pushing for new bracero program and come here legally. That broccoli not going to pick itself.
>>525825565>tell meAre you paid by word or post?
>>525825573hilarious you think he closed a 2000km+ borderalso that you think I paid for the "wall" that he's strill trying to build
>>525825637I'm paid per cumshot that I put into your whore mother nigger
>>525817714We subsidize the development of practically every new medicine. Our system costs more because we’re paying to develop the future of medicine while europoors suckle off the teat of US taxpayer funded breakthroughs.
Making anti Nigger companies and Inviting all the niggers can do that
>>525825707>I'm paid per cumshot that I put into your whore mother niggerShe was cremated. How bad was your micro dick rash afterwards?
>>525825565>yeah protect gay people anonFrom what, AIDS? Quit treating groups of people as if they were pets in need of your superior protection.Minority groups are not your pets, you're just a racist hiding behind false altruism. Bitchass
>>525825798can you name the last medical breakthrough achieved with taxpayer funds?
>>525825861are you saying gays aren't threteaned just for the fact that they are gay anon?
>>525816118>Is leftism really that bad?everything you know about it you heard from fox news retards
>>525816118So how come Clinton, Obama, and Biden never delivered any of that? They all were more about hanging around rich celebrities who would say they were rock stars too.
>ctrl ÷ f>"zero sum">0 results I am disappoint
>>525816118Higher pay? Not from what I've seen. Plus their tax and regulatory burden is way higher, freedoms way more limited as well.
>>525826141at least they don't get shot in the face by their own public employees
>>525816118i mean they literally want to genocide all white people so yeah thats pretty bad and kinda trumps everything else.
>>525826667ICE are federal employees. The state and the “states” are two separate entities
>>525826835yeah but they are public employees
>>525816118>better quality of life>better healthcare>higher payYou serious?
>>525816118Every "-ism" movement has a period where things seem okay, usually during a transition period. But the closer it gets to the actual intended goal the wheels always start falling off because life is dynamic and the world is chaotic, no one system is going to work for everyone all the time. Keeping the pendulum going is actually a good thing, but the past 40 years has been in service of millions who accrued even more wealth to become billionaires. Obama years completely fucked up everything because of how insane they pushed things to the far extreme left under the guise of social change but it was all in service of exploiting working class for maximum profit for the wealthy.
>>525826981not going bankrupt for college isn't higher quality of life?
>>525816118>better quality of lifeHighly subjective. If you are talking just work life balance then this is probably true. But quality of life is much broader than this and the US and EU both have areas with great quality of life and shit quality of life for the average worker.>better healthcareThis is just wrong. Should have just said cheaper healthcare because that is true. But even if Americans are paying more than they should they still undeniably have access to the best healthcare in the world (anyone in the medical field will confirm this), and workers have health insurance.>higher payThis just isn't true. The effective minimum wage in the US is $15. While it is not federally enforced, the adoption of this standard by many national low skill employers has essentially set the floor for hourly rates. The vast majority of EU countries have a minimum wage below this, although again their effective minimum wage is closer to parity with the US (at least for the wealthier Western Euro countries).Jobs like factory workers, delivery/truck drivers and retail workers earn essentially the same in the US as they do in Western Europe. And hospitality workers often make far more in the US due to tipping culture.But once we are talking skilled labour then the US dominates Europe. Any job that requires a degree or trade certificate will earn you more, often considerably more, in the US. Combine that with lower taxes and lower cost of living (compared to Western Europe) and purchasing power of the average American worker far exceeds that of their Euro counterparts.This isn't even a controversial statement. It's a widely recognised fact. If you actually want to make a comparison where the Euro comes out on top then compare the unemployed or disabled living standard instead. But of course that doesn't play into their Marxist-lite narrative of the oppressed worker in the dystopian US versus the liberated worker in socialist (totally not neo-liberal capitalistic) Europe.
>>525827370the purchasing power of an American comes from debt nigger compare average debt between amerimutts and europeans
>>525816118If you want pretty lies then it's great, for all else though...
>>525816118>higher payonly Switzerland even comes close to US salaries. well paid specialist jobs usually pay 5 times as much in the US as they would in France or Germany.not to mention they have far, far fewer taxes.
>>525827370>Highly subjectiveIt's not, see >>525827164>but you don't need to go to collageI actually want there to be also non-jews in the collages, I know it's a shocker to an american who are so used to the 1000% overrepresantion of jews in their collages. Old habits die hard that's why burgers still cut their foreskin when their european counterpart never did
>>525827681they pay more in healthcare than Europeans and have no healcare lol
>>525826780>all white people excluding Mexicans, ya’ll are still 58 percent of the population in America at worst. Blacks are like 14 percent of the population, my people are less than 2 percent. Tell me how exactly it would benefit anyone to clear out 58 percent of your own population as a nation en masse? If the answer is Jews, the financiers and execs already control all the wealth. That’s how capitalism works. Why would non-whites side with a system that doesn’t benefit their masters if we’re so docile and controlled by the Jews? So socialism and capitalism are Jewish and brown? What isn’t, then? I have yet see one white nationalist on this board not offer “we’ll do good white capitalism or “we’ll do good white communism”.
>>525827606so what?
>>525827849you'll own nothing and you'll be happy
>>525816752It's you getting subsidized buddy. Every time you invade somewhere you need europe to come hold your hand.Oh look, there's some finns, there's some canadians, there's the brits, the french, the aussies, the polish etc.Why does america need all this help?
