> Discuss German politics> Indian workers earn highest median pay in GermanyGerman workers earned a median gross income of €4,177 ($4,900) a study published on Friday showed — more than €1,200 less than Indian employees.https://www.dw.com/en/indian-workers-earn-highest-median-pay-in-germany/a-75370401Why are so many Germans opposed to immigration of skilled workers?
>>525833364funny how this is a noteworthy thing at all. immigrants should always have a higher median pay than natives. why else are you letting them inside your economy if not to fill high-demand, low-supply positions (of which the pay is always above average)
>>525833848(the answer is ofc to import service slaves and to wagedump germies to keep uncompetitive boomer businesses alive)
>>525833848> Please explain “Its survey showed the median gross monthly wage for Indian workers reached €5,393 in 2024, ahead of Austrians at €5,322, US nationals at €5,307, and Irish nationals at €5,233.”“The number of Indians working in MINT professions — mathematics, IT, natural sciences, and technology including engineering — has risen by nearly ninefold since 2012 to more than 32,800, the study found. About one-third of full-time Indian workers aged 25 to 44 are employed in MINT occupations.”> HmmmmmSkills shortage combined with highest unemployment rate since 2013https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/german-unemployment-rises-less-than-expected-december-labour-office-says-2026-01-07/Germany needs more skilled immigrants?
>>525834708>Germany needs more skilled immigrants?they're just wagedumping. without zero/negative % euro interest rate, a boomer has to struggle to survivejust an all-around 200 iq move to dump this much money into public education only to then cück your population out of high-paid jobs. the few that somehow manage to reach the promised land past the wage stagnation desert ofc get taxed to hell. germini is a torture chamber where ppl get off on seeing everyone else get bent
>>525833364if you remove arcelormittal,they have the same average income like every immigrant
>>525833364>They(indians) are the same as the muslimsNo we are not inbred retards. Proof linked in OP's post.
>>525835584> 10x increase in Indian patent applications> without skilled immigration growth in the German economy would hardly be possible
>>525836032I gotta respond to that.I have seen your people shitting in the streets, trashing your own living space, being literal inbred idiots, what are you even talking about?
>>525835465Germany needs to innovate.Still using technology from over 100 years ago (eg trams)
>>525833364Robots and AI will save the day. It's not perfect yet, but soon will be fine.
>>525837467let's hope rearmament anxiety gets the best of germany once again at the expense of the welfare state. can't pay for both simultaneously anyway>Schumpeter was famously pessimistic, believing that once a society chooses security (socialism) over the "Gale," it is almost impossible to go back because the psychological drive has been socialized out of the population. To him, the only way to "transform" such a state would be a systemic crisis that renders the "Circular Flow" (the status quo) so unbearable that the population is forced to tolerate the "Destruction" part of Creative Destruction once again
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Da ist so ein neuer Mensch in meiner Wohnung
>>525833364why do you keep spamming this? nobody cares.no amount of money will make people like pajeets.you think anybody cares the Microsoft CEO is indian? no, you're still streetshitters.
https://www.telepolis.de/article/Elon-Musk-entdeckt-den-Kommunismus-und-macht-ihn-kapitalistisch-11137471.htmlthoughts ?
>>525833364I have a master in physics and still get rejected at every corner. I am content with shitposting on 4chan now I don't care fuck this shithole let the jeets have it.
germans voted for this for 20 years
>>525835465>they're just wagedumpingclearly not if the Indians earn more on median in the MINT sector.
>>525833364In Essen a young medicine student, Paul, was beaten by a pack of migrants. his knee was broken 7 times.video footage already deleted, no witnesses interrogated. Mother set a bounty of 10.000 Euro for informationhttps://rmx.news/article/germany-suspected-foreigners-beat-young-medical-student-paul-s-so-severely-that-they-shatter-his-knee-in-7-places-but-that-was-only-the-beginning-of-his-hell/
>>525836367>>>> growth in the Germany economy would be hardly possiblethere is no growth its shrinking its fucking dead McKinsey, IMF and co. are telling everyone that Germany is shifting to service economy.
>>525844157Yeah voted and the voting did do things, sure lets go with that.>>525844726Cool they can service my neet needs.
>>525839466checked
>>525836367>sklled workersok
>>525833364This is the same type of surveys that say pajeeets have the biggest "household income" while ignoring the number of pajeets per household? In this case, they "surveyed" pajeets in universities and its all self reported numbers. How many Uber Jeet drivers got surveid?
>>525843872>Tesla, SpaceX und die gesamte KI-Infrastruktur natürlich weiterhin in privater Hand bleibenTesla is publicly traded. SpaceX will IPO at one point. Grok is open source (with delays), the hardware isn't but theoretically you can get your own.>Es ist Feudalismus mit besserer Technologie.To some degree, yeah. But essentially it's always a similar power law distribution of ownership and control, be it capitalism or socialism or whatever.The author leaves out Musk's libertarian approach with emphasis on self-governance and free association. That most people buy his walled gardens and don't tinker or have redundancies isn't his fault, it's simply part of his Apple-like strategy that many people behave that way.Anyway, that short opinion piece hasn't enough depth to seriously discuss it.
>>525833364Why is berlin literally choking on Jeets on deliveroo bikes?
>>525848323Another aspect the techno utopians see is that with advanced AI you can create all kinds of solutions, software etc to your problems, needs, and wants. With robots you can build things yourself, provided you have the energy and matter needed. So to a large degree the means of production are very much in the hands of the individuals with those tools (that you can buy [most will be very affordable] or are freely available).But as we know, most people are lazy, passive, and have no agency.
anyone playing games located in Germany?
>>525840963More skilled immigration is the solution. Germans’ English language skills are getting better at least.>>525844051You need discipline. If people coming from small villages in India can learn math and coding on Khan Academy and get high paying tech jobs in Germany, so can you.>>525848467Deliveroo driving is their side hustle after they’ve finishing their 8hr grind at a tech startup
>>525850248>energythis is our choking point. i hear eu-cels waffling about ai, while claiming>we have to reduce energy consumptionwith these retards in charge, europe is doomed.
>>525853559> Europoor energy policyGermany invests in biogas backed up by Indian techImagine the smell…
>>525853559SMR + Solar/Battery. If there's anything energy-related I'd invest in as a layman, it's this.
>>525844340cuz the mintians cherrypick top jobs in metropolitan cities and highly specialized fields. doesn't conflict what I said unless there really was no local applicant who could have filled that position (lol)
>>525857047>>525844340Akshually it is because many jobs in that field are a ripoff too. Yeah, you may be an on-paper high earner but they might force you to work more hours, do overnight hours to hit deadlines etc.Silicon Valley is based on abusing H1B migrants for that. Musk tried to meme himself as working and sleeping in the office / the floor in order to normalize this shit to his clueless employees High salaries dont come with low demands.
>>525834392oh my fucking god that bed looks like it'll infect your skin on contact
>>525856052>SMRgoing to happen in france (afaik), but not here.germany = worstgovernedcountry
>>525857924this classically has never deterred local applicants. just look at big 5 consulting. you may hit the field running north of 70k/year as a junior, but if you were to break it down to hourlies and the fact they work you like a dog, it's not that great. musk gang mostly enjoys the fact they can hold the visa over their heads to crack the whip
>>525860457Not for now. Toward 2030 the pain will be high enough. And they're not a silver bullet anyway. Solar is easier and more incremental to install, also cheaper per increment. Nukes and solar are the two sources with efficiency gains and scalability potential. Wind is environmentally harmful, fuck wind. But I'm a layman who didn't run the numbers, so it's all gut feeling.
>>525860830>musk gangThe large majority of Tesla US employees are citizens, visa holders are below 5% or so. SpaceX should have even fewer as it's ITAR-regulated.
>>525850248you think the chinoids will include these capabilities in the ai they'll loicense to us? :DDD just €15m more in eu ai investments and we will unlock agi iknowiknow>>525861393sure but I was just responding to what the unique benefit of having h1b slaves is. musk gang as in the tech crowd
>>525860830>this classically has never deterred local applicants. just look at big 5 consulting. you may hit the field running north of 70k/year as a junior, but if you were to break it down to hourlies and the fact they work you like a dog, it's not that great. musk gang mostly enjoys the fact they can hold the visa over their heads to crack the whipWith gen z and late millennials its different. Shit doesnt work well with them anymore. Newspapers try to reframe this as "they are not willing to work", which in many cases is true, but high performers are increasingly aware they are getting shafted effectively at the per hour scale so they leave. If you think about it its a scam anyway. Musk et al complain about there not being enough children but then they push 100 hour a week workweeks. Meanwhile, he has to pay some crazy Jewess 500k a year to have his child only for her to what it looks like to me extort him for even more $$$. Like this isnt going to be realistic for his employees to copytrade this strategy lol. The engineers there make like what 200k a year? The whole conservative ideology is a cardhouse and then they wonder why youth is turning to soicialism.
>>525861857>high performers are increasingly aware they are getting shafted effectively at the per hour scale so they leave.if you want to cück your population, you should at least have a decent collectivist lie to believe in. BRiDcels completely lost the plot there (as seen in zoomies unwillingness to sign up to get onetapped by drones)
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>pajeets with fake credentials are getting big jobs from Hansdieters who get tax cuts for hiring shitskins>while the government got some handy business deal from PajeetistanWhy are we immigrating millions from the third world that are incompatible with our culture and will send their money back to their own countries when we could spend a fraction of the money every company will lose in the next 5 years due to inflation and other shit, to train and educate German citizens and the youth and make work more attractive thus lift a portion of those out of poverty and possible criminals activities?
