Why are people getting bent out of shape over this whole Fed thing? Are we really going to pretend rates weren't artificially suppressed for 8 fucking years under Obama?
>>525843284>nigger boy took it up the ass why cant you?
>>525843284>artificially suppressedWhat? The rates are artificial by nature.
>>525843284nobody wants trump controlling the world economy
>>525843284Why is the "fiscally responsible" GOP trying to destroy the US dollar?
>>525843284Rates being suppressed are the cause of all the ongoing affordability issuesOf all trumps actions his desire to reignite the asset hyperbubble is the most damning. I cant support him on wanting to depress rates again or restart QE“The fed was retarded before so we should be retarded again” is not an excuse
>>525843741I agree completely, but people are acting like this has never happened before.
>>525843284They want interests high to continue their greed.
>>525843884Whats never happened is the president ordering rates lowered to make his numbers look good short term.Lots of people know the fed had artificially low rates under the darkie, and they all acknowledge that was an unmitigated disaster long term
>>525843741Not sure if you know this but miggers don’t even understand how percentages work. I think these concepts are a little advanced for him.
>>525844084Miggers understand more cerebral concepts like "per capita" and probability much better than your average liberal arts graduate.
>>525843709The US does not have a dollar, the jews who own the federal reserve do.
>>525844276>let’s reduce prices by 700%>we understand numbers good>miggers very smart
>>525844388We're not talking about abolishing the federal reserve, we're talking about replacing its chairman with a yes man who's willing to print even more money solely to make Trump look good.
>>525845218And that's called monday.
>>525843284they've basically been suppressed since 9/11, so like a quarter of a century now
>>5258432844 U
>>525843284Is that supposed to justify cuts now?
>>525843284The thing is this faggot is political but pretends to not be under a Republican administration. Shitty trump appointee. Rates needed to be lowered awhile ago.
>>525843709When has the GOP ever been fiscally responsible when they are in charge?
>>525843284Migapedes are upset because Powell doesn’t want to turn us into a banana republic. Trump wants to make America great by making the US dollar free so conservative savers get punished while big tech and finance make a killing printing more money. This will save us by making GDP line go up.
>>525843284Try winding that back all the way to Nixon.Interest rates were 100% made up bullshit as dictated by Nixon.
>>525845928Yeah, they seem to think that they can pull a bait and switch with nominal asset values increasing and pretend it's not because of Peronist financial debasement.
>>525843284Is that a reason to suppress them in the future?You do realize that's the reason for the asset bubbles and the distortions we are seeing.
>>525843284Because the Fed is supposed to be independent -- because if it isn't, from now on all monetary policy decisions will be made unilaterally by the president. This means that interest rates will track election years and presidential polling instead of the fundamentals. Do you need me to explain to you why monetary policy should be based on the economy instead of the political desires of the executive?Also, just fucking IMAGINE giving Trump the keys to the fucking money printer. He would be like a rat in a cage with a button which administers heroin. It'd be CONSTANT and unremitting mismanagement. Trump is not an economist. He's a rich kid, a former WWE promoter, and a reality TV star. He shouldn't be fucking trusted with this shit.
>>525845710>he’s political bc he won’t lower rates on a whimWhy do rates need to be lowered, kike?
he's the reason orange mugabe hasn't made you a trillionaire like the average person in zimbabwe
>>525843284wishing you best with monetary policy run by a dementia patient and his (((kushners))). I'm sure you'll love hyperinflation and collapse of dollar :)
>>525843284There is a debate as to whether to have an independent central bank. Trump obviously doesn't want the central bank to be independent because he wants to control it. The problem with the central bank being under the control of the president is that they could use it to get re-elected. Overheat the economy prior to an election so that everybody has jobs and inflation might take a while to impact the economy. In theory, an independent central bank would be apolitical. Problem is that the central banks are not flawless, in the USA and Canada, they overheated the economy after COVID. They also don't seem to be apolitical as the Fed in the USA seemed to be more easy with the monetary policy under Biden. Still, the Orange Retard should probably not meddle in things he doesn't understand. Taking away the central bank independence in Turkey led to massive inflation all because Erdogan, like Trump, thinks he is a delicate genius.
If you're shilling for the FED reserve in 2026 because "Orange man" Ill be raping you in Hell with the demons for eternity.Now is not the time for libfaggot bolshevik games.What's it like KNOWING you're shilling for international finance and bankingWhat's it like KNOWING what you actually are?I hope ICE just starts executing you peices of shit, the world would be a better place.
>>525843284>Are we really going to pretend rates weren't artificially suppressed for 8 fucking years under Obama?What are you trying to say?
What would happen if they raised the rates? Isn't that what they did back during the early 80s recession that more or less brought the US out of it? I won't lie, this shit is all way over my head.
>>525843284Have you not looked at the debt? The price of silver and gold??Donnie is going to appoint a chair who’ll print so much money Weimar will blush.
>>525846593>in the USA and Canada, they overheated the economy after COVIDIt wasn't just the Fed which did that. The massive, historic stimulus bills passed under Trump in 2020 essentially forced the money printer into overtime. That's my issue with all of this -- the president doesn't fucking need granular control over the Fed. If he wanted to, he could direct his fucking party to pass some legislation which pumps the economy full of even more free money. This shit isn't supposed to be so centralized. This obsession with centralizing power and reducing executive friction is the exact opposite of how our country is supposed to work. The friction is the point -- we are supposed to be able to weather retarded governance long enough for the voters to get those fags out of office before they can cause irreparable harm.
>>525843284>imagine how much it will accelerate once trump puts his yes man in as chairthis is why i voted for trump
Fed has always acted independently of the president. This is something migatards are not smart enough to understand. Trump wants to be able to order them around, which is a first. We all know what happens when the central bank loses their independence and becomes the tool of a low IQ president, look at what happened to Turkey's economy.
>>525847036Problem is that they kept the stimulus on when inflation was high in 2021 reaching over 7% in Dec 2021. After that, there were massive unprecedented hikes in 2022 which caused disruptions (like Silicon Valley Bank) that could have been avoided. Yes, this was the fault of all central banks not just the fed.
>>525846777Lowering rates makes people take out more loans because the interest you pay on those loans is cheaper. It also indirectly influences the bond yield (the amount of interest the government will pay on the debt that it sells), though there are more factors at play there. In essence, more money in the economy = higher prices = inflation. Some people would argue that lowering interest rates in our current climate would be a good thing because it would jumpstart the economy (businesses/people take out more loans and use them to buy things like companies, cars, homes, consumer goods) and the inflation risk is lower than they expected. Raising rates discourages taking out loans because the interest rate on those loans is higher but it also dampens the amount that people/businesses buy. The fed keeps rates high when they fear that the inflation risk outweighs the benefits of economic stimulation. Trump wants them lower for political reasons (easier loans make people feel good for a time and make things “seem” affordable) and because he wants businesses to have easier access to money. Jerome and the other governors at the fed don’t agree, and they think it would be too inflationary. That’s about it. Thats the simple way of explaining it. Now Trump claims not to know anything about this investigation in Jerome, but anyone can see that, really, he’s just putting some heat on him so that he lowers rates.
>>525846772He’s saying because Obama dropped rates to practically 0 after 08 then Trump should be able to drop rates to 0 when the S&P is around 31x earnings and CAPE near 41. In other words he’s retarded.
>>525843284I just woke up and am uneducated on this matter. As someone who is Trump & America first am I supposed to like to hate this guy? What would Trump want me to do here?
>>525843284Trump is going to create a depression that makes the 1930s look like a golden age
>>525847793>As someone who is Trump & America firstYou're supposed to sit down and lap up the Jewish propaganda. Don't worry your little head about it.
>>525847655That’s what I figured yeah. Now I do agree that those rates were too low for too long, but that’s a separate thing. There was nothing artificial about it; it was just a bad decision.
>>525843709Fuck the dollar
>>525844276You know math and statistics courses/majors/faculty are a part of the liberal arts college of most universities. If you set foot in a university you would know this retard.
ZIRP is the cause of our troubles and you idiots don't understand it. Zero rates allow gov to spend money they don't have, it allows companies to take out loans which they have no business taking out. Mal-investment allows these parasites to print money, hire women and stupid minorities, to work at jew daycare, while productive people shoulder the burden and work harder to make this slowly decaying system continue to operate, worse and worse every year. It's a decay which is covered up by low interest rates, and when the system collapses, we are so fucked. If we lived in a market based interest rate environment a lot of the problems we have today would never have been allowed to occur. Another issue needs mentioning is that the kikes and the rest of the fund managers now run most of the big corporations through their management of boomer retirement funds. This needs to be corrected as it would still occur even with market based interest rates.
>>525847888Seriously. Is this guy good or bad?
>>525848017Are you implying a chimp couldnt pass most 101s?
>>525847885In the short term it should look good. Number go up and poorfags can now afford things with cheap loans. But most of the growth will go to AI so wagies will get displaced on the way up and then jobs removed on the way down.
>>525847036> This shit isn't supposed to be so centralizedI’m a bit confused. Are you bitching about centralized power while simultaneously trying to argue for a group of jews to have unlimited control over our money supply? You’re decades too late with your argument against centralized power, nigger. lol
>>525847406> We all know what happens when the central bank loses their independenceWhy do we have a central bank at all? I don’t want a tiny unelected group of jews getting to decide money supply for all of us. I’d rather it be backed by gold and silver.
>>525843284Pay denbts.
>>525846593Slopulists running the central bank is going to make American's pray to YHWH put the Jews back in charge.
>>525843709If it can be then it should be
>>525846593>USA seemed to be more easy with the monetary policy under BidenI think you forgot about 2018 and 2020 where the Fed was quite loose with money to Trump's benefit.
>>525849224We have a central bank because of bank runs and panics. The central bank is there to mitigate those problems, and it’s why most countries have them. If you look at the period of American history before we had a central bank, there were panics and depressions quite frequently, and it’s why they decided to do it. America’s central bank is strange though because it is both public and private. Supporters would argue that this is what makes (or made) America a safe investment for foreign countries—the bank couldn’t be easily manipulated by the party in power and rates weren’t subject to political machinations for reelection, and the greed and know-how of banks would help ensure that the dollar didn’t collapse. This is why people say things like “the independence of the fed is a good thing.” This is why today, when foreign investors feel that the fed’s independence is threatened, you see bond yields rise (this means that government is seeing a bond sell-off and they’re trying to attract new investors). The backing of our currency by gold and silver will not happen. The flight from the gold standard would have happened regardless of a central bank, and international trade in the modern world would be near impossible if we still had gold convertibility or, at this point, a standard.
>>525844048that’s not true. Inflation was low and employment was high nearly the whole time.
>>525843284Rates were low under Trump as well, at 0.5% to 2.5%. Obama era rates were low because of the 2008 financial crisis, not because he pressured the Fed chair to lower rates. This time period led to extreme asset prices inflation, why would you want to continue this? Unemployment is under 5% and inflation is actually stuck around 2.9-3.0%. Both of these metrics means interest rates should most likely stay where we currently are. If the economy is so great under Trump - quote: "a golden era"- why do we need lower rates? Donald Trump wants lower interest rates to bail out his shitty policies.
>>525849102The president nominates the fed chair. The senate confirms him. If you want to remove him, congress can impeach him. It is the opposite of centralized power -- everyone has a hand in whether he comes or goes. What centralizes power is giving the president unilateral impeachment authority. Assuming the fed chair wants to keep his job, this means the fed chair does what the president tells him to do or else he gets fired. That CENTRALIZES power in the hands of the president by cutting congress out of the loop.
Lowering the rates while issuing bailouts isn't going to stop inflation.
>>525843284The Fed should not serve the whims of Donald Fucking Trump
>>525847885It’s going to be actual Weimar hyperinflation.
>>525843284Rates are not high enough. The Federal reserve should be targeting 0% inflation + the rate of population growth in the US. Generally less than 1%. Every nickel of inflation above that is pure printed money handed to Congress and the banks. If they are going to create money it should be shared with all taxpayers. I do not support Trump attacking the first gentile Fed chair in a century. It is pure kikery.
>>525843741Trump needs to recreate the First Federal Reserve using Trump Coin. Trust me bro
make monetary policy great againBecause trump IS the pinnacle of humanity both so far and forevermore, we should reassign all resources, prerogatives and duties to solely his watchful care.https://www.anz.com/institutional/insights/articles/2025-07/the-euro-path-to-reserve-status/>The euro has 2 obstacles to reserve status, stemming from the EU being composed of a diverse range of economies:>There is no single fiscal entity because each economy/country needs its own fiscal policy>Debt that pulls down the euro is obfuscated by being split up among countries each with different bond ratesDamn the EU is pretty funky economically. Still is the most popular reserve currency after the USD I hope the GBP will inherit reserve status but we are too small. Maybe it is inevitable that China will inherit it :(. Perhaps markets will shy away due to China's opaqueness.
>>525850701>why would you want to continue this?"It'll pump my bags" said the scorpion
I don't know what "rates" means but everyone is abandoning US bonds like CHI-NA and I hear bonds are in trouble in Germany and Japan then again idk what any of that means but I think that's a not good. Unless you are a goy then keep buying bonds I guess and praise the feds on your "rates" like your credit card rates or what?
>>525851872For the low price of 10% per transaction, payable to the Trump Presidential Library foundation LLC (the one run by his personal lawyer, not the actual library kek) we can abolish the federal reserve and truly Make America Great Again!
Do people still not get that Trump is ruling by his own power now, not the office of the President?
Bankers start sweating when they see bankers getting put in jail cells. They know it's where they all belong.
>>525843284>Why are people getting bent out of shape over this whole Fed thing? Are we really going to pretend rates weren't artificially suppressed for 8 fucking years under Obama?The whole world economy is literally a hot potato between US presidents. Kicking the can, etc.Best we can do is to prepare for the USD's collapse.
>>525852271Being the reserve currency isn't good, if China was the reserve currency their gpd would never have been able to grow as fast as it has been, sure there's some security in it but it also hugely limits your growth
>>525843284>Why are people getting bent out of shape over this whole Fed thing?I agree. I think that we should let the Fed go and watch the American economy implode. I personally have zero funds invested in USA stocks so i'd love to watch it all become a circus/
Reserve currency is everything you dumb nigger.
>>525852969oooh yeah china would want their yuan to be weakbut i can see import-heavy countries wanting to have a stronger currency. Plus I've heard the USD's reserve status partially allows the US to take on so much debt.
>>525843709you're going back and you're gonna love it.
>>525843284Anyone defending the fed here is a fucking shill.
>>525852969For the US, being the reserve currency is good today because it is import economy, but it is good historically because it allows the US to take on debt that it uses to grow. Its historic reserve status is the reason that US growth has been astronomical over the years. It is also a huge liability but no, it doesn’t limit growth. There’s a reason that the US enforces the petrodollar at gunpoint.China is an export economy who needs a weaker currency to remain dominant in the market. You’re right that they don’t want to be the reserve currency, but if they were, they wouldn’t be an export economy in the first place.
>>525854024Wouldn't it be amazing if China had the reserve currency, and we all had to use the renminbi for international trade? Wouldn't it be great if China had control over the financial transaction system like Swift? Maybe it would be good if China or Russia was the one that had the power to pretty much print worthless currency and buy and sell what ever the fuck they want with it all across the globe? Wouldn't it be great if the U.S. had to run to the international monetary fund for a bailout if their economy and budget wasn't doing too well? Anyone who thinks the reserve currency status isn't a good and important thing is a stupid dumb monkey who shouldn't be able to share the same air as normal people.
>>525850786The FOMC sets the rates not the chair.
>>525852969That's underselling the advantage of being the reserve currency. The US enjoys high wages and a high standard of living because it can print money and buy stuff from the rest of the world. yeah that grows everyone elses economy but it also makes you live lives of extreme wealth and luxury. If the US dollar suddenly lost reserve status the average American would get economically nuked because their economy is structured on the assumption that there's massive amounts of demand in the rest of the world for dollars.
