BREAKING: Trump says that the US would have to pay back "trillions of dollars" if the Supreme Court rules against his tariffs. "It would be a complete mess".
>>525850613FAFO <- you are here.
BREAKING: muh dik
>>525850613>"It would be a complete mess".It already is, you memeflaggot piece of shit coward. Show your geography, Schlomo.>>525850748first post, gayest post
>>525850613Please God. I don't ask for much..
>>525850613Who would have thought that you can't just pull something out of thin air without any legal basis in a constitutional state?
>>525850613Lutnick will get most of that money because he was going around buying companies debt for pennies in a dollar.
>>525850613Please God, let this happen because it would be so fucking funny.
>>525850613If america kills itself over godless “principles” it will be the deserved end of the white race. Principles and philosophy are fake. Lies. They were created to manipulate. Not to seek truth. We already had EYEBALLS for seeking truth.
>>525850903Dude, principles and law are not real. God does not enforce them. They are voluntary lunacy. If they don’t benefit you or anyone, and you are the one who enforces them, ignore them.
>>525850613What is the problem? Just print $1000 bills. Or $10k or $100k..
Ok and? Will he step down in the event his bad decisions turn out to have consequences?
>>525851515Consequences of taking pragmatic action regardless of legal precedent and law itself: you have to choose leaders more carefully than lightly regulated democracy allowsConsequences of making $1000 bills less scarce: no one values them as muchThis shit is baked into realityDemocracy and law as supreme concepts, moral obligation? Not so much. Humans do fine with their complete absence and best by treating them as rough guidelines.
>>525850613As they should.
>>525850613His problem not mine. Don't write checks your ass can't cash.
>>525851275tell that to a Jewish lawyer and he will sue you
>>525850613>every other country has 100+% tariffs against us>nooo you cant tariff them back
>>525850840>It already iswhere and how?
>>525850613usecase of the supreme court?
>Unconstitutionally remove taxes and therefore Congresses power over the purse strings>Kill the organisations that collected and scrutinised taxes>Bypass congress with tariffs so you can control the budget illegally (and also increase the deficit by the largest amount ever)>Tariffs don't cover nearly enough to make up for the lost taxes>Supreme court says what the fuck and ruins your ployFAFO
>>525852142Very specific tariffs on very specific goods to protect vital industries of national importance vs entire blockade tier tariffs. False equivalence.
>>525852189This country, after the last 75 years of propaganda and robbing the taxpayers and selling our prosperity to the lowest chinese bidder, then selling us the products.
>>525852142Simply get congress to pass a tariff law, instead of Trump arbitrarily deciding who to tariff. Trump wanted to be a massive retard and go around congress, now this is the result of his choices.
>>525850748fpbp, checkem
>>525850613yank the supreme court justices and declare martial law2028 election cancelled
>>525852371You understand the negotiation tactic of forcing someone to the negotiating table, right? He's always used it, whether it's in court or internationally, with tariffs. He says "tariff" and they scoff, and ignore him. He creates one, and they cry in pain, but they're willing to talk now. After they talk, he adjusts them. It's what the critics say is waffling. It's just more of the negotiations than we're used to seeing because he has to use America to get them to the table.
>>525850613Maybe he shouldn't have fucking done it then, right? Maybe he shouldn't have done a bunch of illegal shit that WE are on the hook for.
>>525850613retard is still claiming americans paid trillions in tarrifs last year lmao this guy is a trainwreck hes probably going to have heart failure soon i bet
>>525850903This would be the first time in his life that Trump would face any kind of consequence for his continuous fuckips, even one as small as this.
>>525852629There's no issue with that policy in itself, he just needs to get congress to actually pass a law giving him that power.This is similar to the whole roe v wade thing. Instead of democrats going about things the legal way by getting laws passed that allow abortion, they simply got the supreme court to make up some bullshit that was always liable to be overturned. They left open the possibility of getting fucked by the legal system, because they never did things the legal way. It just took a while for the consequences of their actions to catch up with them.>inb4 fuck your laws, power is the only thing that mattersnigger logic. That kind of thinking is the primary reason why their countries are shitholes.
>>525850613Good
>>525852643Listen, I know you're angry, but do some looking; we're very fucked. America is fucked. Something has to be done. He's trying something. Theoretically, it could work, but it has to persist long enough, and Americans refuse anything that isn't instantaneous.
>>525852665It has to be after midterms so they can run vance for 2 1/2 terms straight.
The number of people giving a fuck about the constitution itt concerns meCan you keep and bear arms unimpeded? Can you say whatever you want? NO. You do not live under the constitution anyways, and the founding fathers were masonic jews.
fucking retard doing shit he has no power to do i hope they sue trump to get the money back
>violate all international law by kidnapping a world leader because he refuses to give you his natural resources>I can’t help it I have to do what the Supreme Court tells me!Is he retarded or what
>>525853031The people benefitting from the current rules don't like it when they change, except even further in their favor. >inb4 fuck your laws, power is the only thing that mattersnigger logic. That kind of thinking is the primary reason why their countries are shitholes.No Idea why this is a factor, or what it even means or refers to. I didn't have whatever thought you figured I would arrive at next.
>>525850613Not my problem
>>525850748You won't do shit.
>supreme Court says tariffs unconstitutional Tell them to enforce their decision lmao
>>525853612Power is the only thing that matters. Shitholes are shitholes because the people with power have an average IQ of 90. China doesnt give a fuck and they’re the best country on earth. Subhumans are in poverty and humans get tier 1 cities. Superbly based.
>>525850903>in a constitutional stateThe SC will give Trump support, if the alternative is pandemonium.
>>525850613Proceeds of crime.
>>525850613>collected trillions of dollars>also records show we've only collected $90 billion>also record shows would need over $600 billion to give eligible Americans their $2,000 checks.Fuzzier math than George W. Bush
>>525853272>Something has to be done. He's trying something.If you suffered a traumatic amputation of your leg, something would have to be done, right? If, instead of applying a tourniquet and calling for an ambulance, I decided to amputate the other leg, would you be so circumspect? Are all actions strictly equal for you, or something?
>>525853801Yeah, I don't think you have a comprehensive grasp on this.
>>525853612>The people benefitting from the current rules don't like it when they change, except even further in their favor.What's your point here? This goes for literally everything. People resist changes that hurt them, and want changes that benefit them.>No Idea why this is a factor, or what it even means or refers to.The rule of law is primarily what separates shithole countries from ones where people want to live.Letting Trump do whatever he wants because "principles are fake" is the fastest way to accelerate the collapse of America into a third world shithole. In those countries, the rule of law is simply which warlord or gang has the most power to hurt you. Having laws and principles is an attempt to elevate society out of merely violent fights for power, because that power gets abdicated to principles which don't give one person an advantage over another. You can tear those principles down in an attempt to build better ones, but you run the risk of returning to a savage state, which can last for millenia.
>>525854004This response is based wholly on your opinion that there's no way that this plan can work, but something else would, and we're just not doing it. What should we do?
>>525854200Both of you have blue IDs, I mixed them up. My post is for the guy that thinks principles are fake.
>>525850613I don't even believe they've collected that much.
>>525852643Maybe you should have voted harder for the status quo then.
>>525854200>People resist changes that hurt them, and want changes that benefit them.We are not powerful. They are. The change is always in their favor unless the public is screaming for vengeance, in which case an example might be made of a patsy for spectacle.>The rule of law is primarily what separates...Are you referring to Trump being able to do things without approval, like tariffs?
>>525854477I'm voting three times as hard in 2028.
>>525850613I hope the court rules against the golden retard
>>525850613How does Trump have Howard Lutnick as commerce secretary while saying this?Lutnick owns Cantor Fitzgerald and they're selling rights to the future refunds for cheap. It's a total conflict of interest inside his own cabinet.
>>525854524>We are not powerful. They are.The only reason that is is because people vote for the retards in Congress.If you can get people to change their minds, then these corrupt people will lose power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE/pol/ likely got Trump elected, so it's certainly possible to fix things. There wouldn't be shills on here if /pol/ was powerless. We fortunately don't live in a country like Iran, where any choice against the regime is brutally ended. >Are you referring to Trump being able to do things without approval, like tariffs?Trump is going against the rule of law in thsi case, and so the supreme court should rule against him. Otherwise, they legitimize bypassing the rule of law, which will only make things worse in the long run.
>>525850613where has all that money gone
>>525851275In this case, denying the executive the the unilateral right to institute taxes would benefit a lot of people. Even if you are retard who thinks tariffs are anything other than a tax, wait until a Zoltan becomes president and taxes whatever he wants.Paying back private citizens the taxes you illegally took may be a mess, but that is not a good reason to change the law.
>>525855303melania coin
>>525850613The truth is he won't pay it about no matter what
>>525855085> conflict of interestYou say this as if that's ever been a dealbreaker for miggers
>>525855303world liberty fi Trump's plan is to destabilize regions around the world to offer his crypto USD and earn interest He is the greediest retarded orange nigger in history
>>525855343It would be a bit more than “a mess” don’t you think mate? Since nations can, do and already have taken action in their own interest to prevent disaster, I don’t see why that principle wouldn’t apply here.
>>525850748oh aren't you a clever little cookie, you
>>525855576I just really wonder how that's going to play out.Obviously they're going to scam the plebs, but this time you have institutional investors getting ripped or Trump looking ridiculous.
So we will get that money, right? Since libs insist the consumers pay the tariff.
>>525855343Baaaased, man, Trump should make you commerce secretary, anon. You know more than everybody ever
>>525851188Ironically, America economically killing itself would stop people from migrating there.
>>525850748>left decides to make something without repercussions have a consequenceI don't think democrats get how retarded they sound right now. Tariffs aren't helping, but neither will that and encouraging it to make it worse is selfish as fuck. Nearly cult-like "drink the kool aid and Trump goes away" bullshit.Fuck the left, utterly insane.
>>525855809They're trillonaires bub. The fed could just print more money to pay the investors. Cut more jobs. Tell people to eat less
>>525851275The legal system is a tool for the ruling class to oppress the poor.
>>525853571The paradox of being a. American president. Presidents learn to love foreign policy because they don't have to deal with congress and the courts as much.
And thats if the supreme court rules against the tarrifs which they won't
>>525855847That would be cool if food costs increased 10x too. Amerilards could finally lose some weight for a change. Imagine it... mutts enduring the holocaust of 3 meals a day instead of their usual 12... Maybe even drinking water instead of guzzling down liquid sugar shit. ACCELERATE
good accelerate
>>525855847It's unlikely. The collapse of the economy is not exactly a real collapse, it will continue to exist even after the "collapse" and it will still need migrants.
>>525856185It'll just mean more cheap illegals for labor. Imagine having that image saved
>>525855960Not everyone is a trillionaire dumbass You got family offices speculating on a financial product sold by the commerce secretary while the president is saying it'll be the end of America if it pays out. This is a ridiculous look for everyone involved.Not to mention all the pardons Trump gave to financial criminals. It's just a domino effect of pure greed and now they're saying it's going to affect the entire world? Sure fuck Cantor Fitzgerald and Lutnick, but that's the commerce secretary and he's the commerce secretary because he's the representative of the greedy corporations. Trump should have nipped this financial product in the bud and kept his cabinet straight before they sold bets on ending America for a quick 5x profit.
>>525855854What the fuck are you talking about? Trump is talking about the conservative-majority SCOTUS. The left has zero bearing on the conversation, yet you're mad at them anyway. Get a grip, dude.
>>525856620The US will be split into "patchworks" run by big corporations for profit. It's all in Yarvin's writings.
>>525856620Only people who matter are the trillonaires. But I sure do hope the "middle class" investors feel it to. Further the wealth gap go ahead but nothing will change and the SC won't rule against Trump anyway
>>525850613he said he dont need anti semites to support him, so go fuck yourself drump!
>>525850613Maybe you shoulda looked into the legality of something before you pushed onto the entire country lil Donny
>>525850613He sounds just like the paki rapists who argue they shouldn't get a prison sentence because their wife can't speak english and it would be hard on them if he went to prison for gang rape.
>>525850613Trump is a Russian asset. I see it very clearly now.
>>525850613trillions? fuck, he such a fucking moron. i don't know how people can't see that. he's got the mind of a 12 year old.
>>525850613Maybe he should have thought about that before implementing them?
>>525855217>The only reason that is is because people vote for the retards in Congress.noThe amount of money available for bribes is immense, and almost all of it is redirected from our taxes to people who are available for hire within the government. If they can't be bought, intelligence agencies can. Hit squads can be hired.We have to root out the traitors and hang them in front of the capitol, then hang those who bought them, then go to war with Israel.>only make things worse in the long run.that's the choice they'll make in all cases.
does this impact the trade deals he has already made?
>>525858340meh
>>525850613Does this mean we're not getting our $2,000 tariff rebate checks?
>>525850613The supreme court can void the tariffs with prospective effect
>>525851275This is how you get nicolas maduro
>>525858801You never were. He doesn't even remeber saying it but you never were to begin with. You're supposed to get a job so elon can play Diablo
>>525852907oh he made his family pariahs after all of this shit.
>>525852260All correct but the end.Taxes are going away. CORPORATIONS WILL PAY. The fed reserve will be sent straight to Jewish hell whatever that is.
>>525850613>I did something blatantly illegal that was well beyond my Constitutional authority and now the Supreme Court has to uphold it otherwise it will ruin the countryWhat a faggot
>>525859135Hey, fingers crossed.
>>525850613the supreme court is why we have niggers running for public office and teaching your children.maybe just ignore them and kill them. i don't care.
>>525859380/thread
>>525859380Pretty rational 4d chess, if you're Trump and want to do whatever this is leading to.
Bruh
