I don't buy this narrative that the ICE agent was in fear of his life.If you watch the cellphone footage the whole interaction takes 40 seconds. He parks his vehicle and spends 40 seconds of walking straight across the front end of her vehicle and then the rear end and then the front end again. At not one point does he tell the woman she is being detained and to turn off her vehicle. At no point does he seem concerned about a vehicle with a running engine that could be used as a "deadly weapon" by a "domestic terrorist". And this is despite him being someone who has been hospitalized previously because of a vehicle. Ross very clearly never saw Good as a threat but used her fleeing as a pretext to shoot her.
>>525866089noanyone saying otherwise is coping
>>525866089>>525866290The two people were blatantly impeding Federal enforcement officers and blocking traffic and instigating conflict. Not only that, but also basically dancing in the driver's seat. Go ahead and try that on a Federal officer and see what happens. You've got to be fucking kidding me. That guy has been a victim of a vehicle-type incident before, and was dragged for a long period of time by someone who was very similarly disrespectful to law enforcement. Go fuck yourself.
>>525866089>At not one point does he tell the woman she is being detained and to turn off her vehicle.The other ICE officer clearly tells her to get out of the car three times. Why are you lying when we can se all this on the videos?If you watch the slow motion video she slammed on the gas pedal (engine revs and tire spins) while the tires were pointing straight ahead, and the officer was standing three feet in front of the drivers side headlight. So at that moment it is reasonable for him to believe she is trying to run him over, and it is only then that he draws his firearm.
>>525866089LMAO now this is a desperate attempt.To answer your question he would be required to recuse himself from the situation as he can't be trusted to perform his duties correctly when it comes to a family member. This is standard operating procedure and what "conflict of interest" means.
>>525867134A minor lane violation is not punishable with death. Neither is evading law enforcement. >That guy has been a victim of a vehicle-type incident beforeAnd yet he chose to calmly across the front end of a running vehicle multiple times. He chose to take plate info to harass her later instead of telling this "dangerous terrorist" to shut off her vehicle or letting her know she is being detained. You are not very good at shilling, tourist.>>525867451I'm talking about Ross. Ross is the first LEO contact for this supposed "detainment" yet doesn't say a thing about detainment nor shows any concern for a vehicle with its engine on. You know this yet you want to be disingenuous anyways. Kill yourself.
>>525866089>if he knew the mind of the person very well, he wouldn't be likely to suspect a murderous intent. So what?You just prove the point that the leftist standard of justified self defense requires mindreading
>>525866089tl;drbut at least no reddit-spacing
>>525867494>aka the answer is "No"Thanks for the confirmation.>>525867579If he doesn't suspect murderous intent why is he so nonchalant around the front end of a "criminal's" vehicle multiple times and not detaining this "criminal"
>>525867544>Ross is the first LEO contact for this supposed "detainment"He was recording her blocking traffic getting her face then her license plate number on camera so it can be used as evidence of her obstructing ICE operations. The other officer gave her a lawful command to get out of the vehicle three times and she ignored his command (also there were no conflicting commands you liars) then she began reversing the vehicle with that officer's arm in the window trying to stop her.
>>525866089we've all seen the videohe shot in anger, not fear
>>525867709>If he doesn't suspect murderous intent why is he so nonchalantAre you fucking retarded? There have been plenty of cases of criminals acting sweet and nice only to turn on a moments notice when a cop lets their guard down. Go look at all the videos of traffic stops where suspects open fire on unsuspecting cops.
>>525867709>Why does he feel comfortable walking around a parked carHe's probably just checking for weapons/drugs. Then she lines up the car with his location and drives at him. It's not something he chose, she did. Why would she aim the car at him?One reason is she had some drugs or was crazy and was willing to kill people to avoid arrest.
>>525867689tl;dr: No.>>525867790Sounds like direct violation of DHS use of force policy. No attempt at de-escalation. No priority of retaining human life. Jeopardizing the situation into one where one has a justification to shoot to kill and potentially harm bystanders unnecessarily.>>525867900Thank you for being honest.
>>525867925>Why would she aim the car at him?This is the part they never answer? If she really anted to avoid him then why didn't she turn the wheels all the way to the right and lightly press on the gas pedal, or at least wait until he was clear of the path of the car? Instead she slammed on the gas pedal (engine revs and tire spins) while the tires were pointing straight ahead, and the officer was still n front of the car. So at the moment she slammed on the gas pedal, she was aiming straight at the officer.
>>525867924Which doesn't refute anything I said. Ross has medical history of being severely injured by vehicles. Yet he chooses to fuck around near the front end of one multiple times and makes no attempt at actually detaining this so called "domestic terrorist" or making her shut off her vehicle. >>525867925>He's probably just checking for weapons/drugs. No, from the cellphone footage he is only concerned with capturing a civilian's plate info so he can bully and harass her with his buddies at her residence later. He's not concerned about detaining anyone. That will not look good to a jury.
>>525867961>you violated a (pretend) policy!!!>this means I can legally run you overPlease keep dying on these retarded hills
>>525867961She did not prioritize human life when she slammed on the gas pedal with someone in the path of her car. The other officer gave her a lawful command to exit the vehicle and she ignored that command and kept driving when that officer put his arm in the window to stop her. She showed no regard for the lives of those officers, so she was a threat to them at that moment.
>>525868168>No, from the cellphone footage he is only concerned with capturing a civilian's plate info Does the cellphone footage show where his eyes are looking?
>>525868168Oh you are just trolling. I thought an actual redditor wandered in here for a moment.
>>525866089>At no point does he seem concerned about a vehicle with a running engine that could be used as a "deadly weapon" by a "domestic terrorist"yea she was just being a nuisance until she tried to drive through him. niggers dont even run like that unless they have a warrant
>>525868111>why didn't she turn the wheels all the way to the rightProbably because of that armed masked agent escalating the situation for no reason, reaching into her car and being recklessly aggressive. I too might not be able to make perfect K turns when someone is fucking around my side window. Kek.>>525868219What pretend policy? Reminder Chauvin actually followed his department's policy yet got crucified anyways. >>525868270It shows where his highest concern is. The face of the operator of the vehicle. And the plate information. He doesn't check for guns or drugs inside the windows. Because, of course, you and I both know, he rightfully doesn't view this woman as a dangerous domestic terrorist.>>525868346Sneed.
>>525866089>the whole interaction takes 40 seconds.I am agree sir, if there no immediate threat then there never can be threat. >At not one point does he tell the woman she is being detained and to turn off her vehicle.I am agree sir, if no immediate detain, then never can detain someone.>At no point does he seem concerned about a vehicle with a running engine that could be used as a "deadly weapon"I am agree sir, if car not immediately drive toward you, then car never can drive toward youVery smart sir, I think you are like the genius. You should applying to law school immediately.
>>525868414>no it doesn't show where his eyes are lookingok so you're just being creative with your story telling then.
>>525868414you seem to understand the situation well. nobody thought she was a danger until the second she tried to run that agent over. then she got blasted
>>525868414>Probably because of that armed masked agent escalating the situation for no reasonShe knew they were ICE, since she went there to fuck with them, so you can give up the armed masked man talking point. Since she knew they were law enforcement and she was given a lawful order to exit the vehicle three time and ignored the order, she knew what she was doing would get her detained. (remember we know now this bitch was trained by ICE-watch). So driving the vehicle when a law enforcement officer is telling you to get out of the car and reaching into your window to stop you means she was willing to put that officers life in danger to avoid arrest.
>>525868512-5 izzat for u SAAR>>525868599I don't know where you're trying to go with this. Smells like cope.>>525868732Again with this dishonesty. She turned the steering wheel precisely because she didn't want to run over anyone and was forced into a fight or flight situation unnecessarily by a mentally unwell and untrained ICE agent at her side window. >>525868744>she was willing to put that officers life in danger to avoid arrestThat is just speculation. It's more likely she was panicking and focusing on the exit path which is why her vehicle succesfully turns away from LEOs without harming anyone. We can't know for sure because one idiot killed her out of """self defence"""
>>525869135>She turned the steering wheel precisely because she didn't want to run over anyoneI'll repost this since you never counter it: This is the part they never answer? If she really anted to avoid him then why didn't she turn the wheels all the way to the right and lightly press on the gas pedal, or at least wait until he was clear of the path of the car? Instead she slammed on the gas pedal (engine revs and tire spins) while the tires were pointing straight ahead, and the officer was still n front of the car. So at the moment she slammed on the gas pedal, she was aiming straight at the officer.
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>>525866089Would the ICE agent have shot the driver if it was a baby hitler but his tears could cure cancer but if he doesn't shoot the driver he will run over ten other people but those people are literally serial killers, but they are here in America illegally trying to escape persecution in their home countries?
>>525869233I'll repost this because it's already been answered.When you're in a sudden fight or flight situation you can't make perfect movements. Despite that, the driver succesfully turned the vehicle which did not harm any LEO or the LEO's parked vehicle (poorly parked too I might add). Unless, hilariously, you are trying to argue that, in that split second, the driver consciously made the decision to "only turn the vehicle slightly" to ensure she could hit someone along the escape path. I assure you, no reasonable person watching these videos will believe you. Including a jury.>>525869357Oy vey.>>525869401Actually there might be a bunch of ICE employees that might enjoy baby hitler memes like the left loves their baby yoda memes.
>>525868414Sneed's Feed & Seed (formerly Chuck's)
>>525869504>When you're in a sudden fight or flight situation you can't make perfect movements. Despite that, the driver succesfully turned the vehicle which did not harm any LEO or the LEO's parked vehicleShe literally still hits the officer even though he was sliding toward the drivers side. We hear the contact on his cellphone cam footage, and he yells "whoah!" when it happens. She was not in a flight or fight response since she was calm and smiling just seconds earlier on camera.
>>525867544>A minor lane violation is not punishable with deathImpeding Federal officers is a serious offense, but you're right. However, his life was clearly in danger. Good luck trying to convict him, he is already acquitted shithead.
>>525869504>>525869960Also being given a lawful order to exit the vehicle by law enforcement (and she knew they were law enforcement so don't lie) does not give you an excuse to claim flight or fight to avoid detention, and it definitely does not give you the excuse to endanger officers in that attempt to flee.
>>525869135>I don't know where you're trying to go with this.It's very simple, you are trying to mindread him and assume what he's doing based on your prejudice or creative writing.
>>525869960She literally was not aiming for him. This is just insane cope you sunk cost tribalists are holding onto for dear life. That's why posters like you typically focus on a few frames while everyone else analyzes the whole video in context. And that contact is the first gunshot. You can line it up with the videos from other angles. She was in fight or flight response mode when someone bum rushed her side window when everything was calm and peaceful. Very peaceful I might add she was waving cars by and even getting ready to drive down the street too. That was very disingenuous, ICE shill.>>525870137No statue of limitations on murder. And the dems are winning midterms by a landslide and then the general election. Keep seething to hide your anxiety, ICE shill.>>525870145Fleeing law enforcement is not a crime punishable by death. If you disagree you should probably move to Somalia.
>>525869504>Actually there might be a bunch of ICE employees that might enjoy baby hitler memes like the left loves their baby yoda memesI can't tell if this is an anti-semitic or philo-semitic comment.
>>525870334>assume what he's doing based on your prejudice or creative writingIt's not creative writing. I am quite literally telling you where he focuses his camera. And to focus your camera you have to look at your camera. And to look at your camera you need to use your eyes. Which tells you where his eyes are looking. Are you okay? You must be off your meds>>525870441Does it really matter?
>>525870341>She literally was not aiming for himAt the moment she pressed down on the gas pedal she absolutely was. Why are you denying the video evidence that proves this? At the moment she slams on the gas pedal (she had to press it hard to rev the engine and make the tires spin) the tires were pointing straight ahead, and the officer was just a few feet in front of the drivers side headlight. She was ignoring a lawful order to exit the vehicle and was putting two officers lives in danger at that moment. The first officer who had his arm in the window trying to stop her and the officer she sees (we see her look right at him on video) that was still in front of her car.
>>525870650Yes he had to look at her face to point the camera there. But you can also look other places before or after doing that. You're claiming he DIDN'T check for weapons and drugs, but you don't know that.
>>525870341>and even getting ready to drive down the street too.HAHAHAHAHA!! now you are just making shit up. Just as you liars claimed she was just dropping off her kids or she got lost and tried to turn around.
>>525870837She is aiming for her escape path. An ICE agent happened to be on her front left side. Which, can be reasonably argued, that she may not have noticed him as she was, of course, FOCUSED on her escape path. (fight or flight mode remember).>>525870960You're making the claim buddy. I don't see him focused on checking the vehicle for safety reasons. He focuses on the drivers face, the drivers wife's face, and plate info. That's a fact.>>525870982https://youtu.be/-iIzR9nmQMM?t=32You can clearly see her driving forward slightly after waving that ICE vehicle past her. Only because she became swarmed by armed belligerent masked men was she impeded from free travel. You should stop hiding your anxiousness behind fake laughter. It makes tourists like you easy to spot.
>>525871217>You're making the claim buddy.You're making the claim it didn't happen. I said it probably did, since it is normal to do that. Even if you're right and he's a petty corrupt cop, he'd still check for reasons to arrest her and give her trouble. The fact you didn't see him do it doesn't mean he didn't.
>>525871217>Which, can be reasonably argued, that she may not have noticed him as she was, of course, FOCUSED on her escape path.We see her look right at the officer on his camera phone at that moment you liar.>You can clearly see her driving forward slightlyShe had been moving back and forth with her vehicle blocking traffic. That is not evidence she was going to drive down the street and stop blocking traffic, you are just making shit up.
>>525866089doesnt matter it he thought he was or not, the law that walz himself put in place states he was allowed to shoot her, even it he wasnt hitwhy is this even being discussed stillnobody is fighting for a dumb cunt
>>525867134>they wuz impeding muh federamul aygenzCity police can clear a traffic jam. All they had to do was coordinate with real, actual police, instead of play-pretending to be mythical gang busters.
>>525871441>why is this even being discussed stillBecause liberals want to use this as an excuse to eliminate ICE because they don't want any deportations. They are really fighting for open borders, they just won't admit it because of how unpopular it is.
>>525871469>City police can clear a traffic jam. All they had to do was coordinate with real, actual police,Local government told their officers to stand down and not assist ICE when they are being obstructed by protesters. You faggots think we don't know what is going on, when you are clearly ill informed of just liars. These sanctuary states/cities want to claim states rights to not help the Feds deprt illegals, then they want to tell their cops to stand down when your footsoldiers obstruct federal law enforcement. This would never fly for any other government agency. Go ahead and try to blcok DEA agents when they are going on a drug raid because you hate drugs laws, or try and blockade the IRS building because you don't want to pay taxes. But for illegals, you traitors want to nullify federal laws because you don't like the laws on the books.
>>525871331>Even if you're right and he's a petty corrupt copI am right. I am always right.>>525871441It's fascinating. Two different sides see the same video(s) and can reach completely different conclusions. Like that blue/gold dress but much spicier. It has Trump, ICE, lesbians, icy roads, sudden escalation, death, multiple angles. It's got it all baby.>>525871582>liberalsI hope you don't actually believe this. The ones who want open borders are the elites. They got very rich using illegal immigrant labor (including Trump) and are not satisfied so they are distracting you with Trump's ICE show to quietly import a lot of H1B Indian's for cheap middle class worker replacement too. Liberals are just the useful pawns for you to waste time fighting while the business owners laugh to the bank.
>>525871855You are taking the ICE show: Trump edition way too seriously. This is objectively a really costly and ineffective way to deport illegal immigrants. The real way is to lock up some business owners. But, of course, the standards with which a justice department would use to lock up a business owner exploiting illegal immigrants would apply to Trump as well, so this will never ever happen. The administration is not actually interested in mass deportation. The real goal is distraction and possibly martial law. It's why all the drama is happening in a state that is the most consistently anti-Republican one. They were sent there specifically to guarantee conflict and tension.
>>525871910You are not right, and that's why you are looking to close the debate. That's ok, enjoy your creative stories.
>>525871910Then why are you faggots trying to stop deportations? I want illegals to be deported and I want businesses punished. Liberals refuse to do either, at least Trump is finally using ICE to deport illegals, and the foreign born popualtion shrank for the first time in decades due to it. Also your h1b talking point is a lie, they have not brought in millions of jeets last year. And don't even dare trying to lie and claim Obama deported a bunch of people. We know the truth, that they counted people turned away at ports of entry on the border as a deportation, while letting millions sneak in between ports of entry. Otherwise, how else did the foreign born population continue to grow under Obama?
>>525872184I'll take the side that wants to deport illegals over the side that refuses to deport illegals and refuses to punish businesses that hire illegals. And don't even dare trying to lie and claim Obama deported a bunch of people. We know the truth, that they counted people turned away at ports of entry on the border as a deportation, while letting millions sneak in between ports of entry. Otherwise, how else did the foreign born population continue to grow under Obama?
>>525872199You're the one enjoying my intellectually stimulating posts. Which is why you're still here.>>525872262>>525872384Most people picked up by ICE on TV are not even deported. A lot of them are just given court dates where they are supposed to go later and prove they're supposed to be here. They can't actually deport someone because they don't happen to have their wallet with them at the time. Stop falling for a dumb show on TV.>why are you trying to stop deportationsFor me, it's a competency issue. Properly trained officers can easily detain a dumb lesbian in an SUV. I drive everyday for work and am not interested in catching a stray bullet from a stressed out untrained retards. Especially when I know that they are just there for show and to make useful idiot voters feel good. There are so many illegal workers everywhere there is absolutely no way ICE could get rid of everybody even if all the liberal protestors disappeared overnight. The only solution is to lock up business owners and if that isn't ever happening there is no reason to let idiots with guns run around my neighborhood.Here is the open secret in America. You are supposed to take advantage of illegal immigrants if you want to make it (easily). If you don't you're usually a sucker who gets manipulated by other business owners like Trump who force you to fight other poor people like liberals all day. Until you wake up and fight the real war I will keep making fun of you while educating you.
>>525870650All that matters is HARD JUSTICE
>>525872971>Most people picked up by ICE on TV are not even deported. A lot of them are just given court datesWrong, retard. Most of these illegals had their court date and have their order of deportations. This why you faggots keep crying about "muh due process." They already had their due process and the court ordered them to be removed, it's just that the Biden administration didn't enforce the deportation order. You are an open borders globalist faggot and a traitor. You deserve death.
>>525866089>retarded MIGA Zog enforcer kills retarded race traitor>Both clearly zog puppets used in a very obvious scheme to further destroy the white race via internal conflict>Both MIGAtards and libtrannies fail to see thisI don't know whether it is zogbots or paid jeet shills but holy shit I simply cannot fathom how everyone fails to see that they're being so clearly manipulated to further instigate the "us vs them" narrative. The US is turbo fucked regardless of the outcome of this so called "civil war" that is being spammed on zog social media
>>525873310How are random stops supposed to catch illegals who ignored their order of deportation? You're not making any sense and lying again.>You deserve death.It's okay bro. I am not mad at you. I am simply educating you.>>525873418>US is turbo fuckedIt is. It doesn't matter how many times I educate people. They will gladly take the bait and weaponize the government against each other in exchange for some freedoms until too much time is wasted and it's game over and the elites can never be touched with stuff like AI defense drones and security bots. At least I get to say "I told you so"
