>>525868192
>powerful faint reflections
Meant to say popular faint reflections.

>>525868192
it's the jews anon, sorry to disappoint you. That's it and how it has always been.

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>>525868311
That is the faint reflection. From a certain frame of view that is popular, that is correct, but while I agree with the direction of the claim, I don't agree with the frame itself. The frame is the trap. It is the dialectic that the elite have put us in. They want Jews vs Christians vs Muslims. They want left vs right. They want men vs women. Conversely, I don't care about any of this. I am unhinged and unbothered (pic rel).

I can get into some obvious contradictions. Jew vs Christian vs Arab is really just proxy for "White" vs "Semite" vs "Arab", except all of these categories have issues. White has east, west, and central. Maybe a north central which is also distinct. Arab has east Arab and west Arab. Semite is the totally made up one because the people sailing the Levant WERE white (with red hair even), but many of the more recent people who claim this ethnicity are mixed with other things, possibly Arabs or something of that nature (some say Jews came from India, so maybe east Arabs are something like Dravidians mixed with east Whites (Aryans), and the people who claim to be Jews today seem to be either this same mix or more of an Italian/Greek element. That essentially makes up your Ashkenazi and Sephardi split. Two loosely connected peoples whose common ancestry is eastern/northern Aryan, which is essentially Scythian according to my knowledge of history.

Once you get to this point, you can also reinterpret all of the mythology and history. What's the ONE empire that no one talks about but should? The Scythian Empire, which was pre-Persia and resulted in most of the power of the classical era. All of that went away and was reset by Christianity, which they still were central to. Jesus kind of broke their control mechanism for a bit, so Catholicism reinstituted it, but at the same time, ethnic sovereigns existed across Europe for 1000+ years after, and I believe some are alive today.

>>525869391
There are no true "secret societies" other than those designed to protect the secrets which come with the greatest power in the ordinary society in which its members exist. The secret societies of the ancient world included the secrets that would free you of religion and thus the control of the priest. It wouldn't free you from your duty to the king, but this was a fair deal when kings were fair too (and crucially, representative of your people). The secret societies of the modern world include rituals connected to the past but protect the secrets as described in OP. I think the most powerful secrets are wielded by families descending from the Roman Empire who fought the nobility of Europe for over 1000 years via the Vatican and today continue that fight via international organizations, thinktanks, and colleges that they founded and still control — and if need be, even by intelligence operation, since they also control those in all major countries.

>>525868192
>If there were a deeply hidden truth about society because truth is power, and existing power didn't want others to have this power of truth, then the most hidden truth would be the most damaging truth to the existing power.

As long as you don't cheat, then you're allowed to find the truth's yourself. It is up to them to find ways to stop this from propagating. It is this way on purpose - you're *supposed* to find the hidden truth, that's why they use symbolism. They obfuscate it, not hide it. It's all right there in plain sight free for the taking.

You just need the vision to see it. Now, you're not supposed to have this unless you're part of the crew but less they forget the entire system is designed so that only the worthy follow the path, they can't get all buttmad about if someone actually managed to do it

It's like everyone sitting around waiting for Jesus to return but when he actually does it's just chaos and panic despite the entire point of waiting around for the last 11,500 years being this exact moment. A comical irony inherit to all things in the universe.

>Just relax, nobody is selling the info to anybody. There's a prize for doing this. Where is the prize?

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The Worm Pill is the final red pill.
We have a thread about it on /x/

>>525868192
>If there were a deeply hidden truth about society because truth is power, and existing power didn't want others to have this power of truth, then the most hidden truth would be the most damaging truth to the existing power
Women don't want you to know this, but they hate men because we can wipe back to front.

>>525869428
I think the really long narrative that is hidden about history is that civilization came from the west, not the east. “The west” was probably northwest Africa around 12,000 years ago, but it could have also been seafarers who escaped the Younger Dryas flood in North America. Either way, these groups progressed east into the Levant where agriculture is first found (but not first developed; “Egypt” was second Kemet), and several thousand years later, the economic efficiency of the horse combined with the plough (think: cavalry combined with granaries) becomes the dominant social order very quickly and then persists everywhere until scribes and recorders of credit (“bankers”) develop consistent methods of parasitizing their nation host.

Keep in mind that not all parasites are toxic. Some are even mutually beneficial (see: crocodiles getting their teeth cleaned or even the very nature of cellular biology, which evolved out of single cell organisms that parasitized each other in mutually beneficial ways. We might even say that symbiosis represents the relationship between any two organisms, and the types of symbiosis include parasitizism which specifically represents one-sided outcomes and mutualism which represents mutually beneficial outcomes. Thus, life is developed on mutualism and yet also conflict (when the struggle to survive leads to improvements). Neither force can truly be isolated and removed.

>>525871738
This would be woven into our books of law. This would force us to admit that the original power above the sword and the plough would be the pen, and it was both good and still has tremendous potential for good. Having accepted that, we might see how the power of the pen is behind everything of significance today. It doesn’t matter if that reads positively or negatively. It is simply tautological because we have never lived in a more abstracted, unreal world. The crisis of modernity is this lack of meaning driven by industrial process and the system’s information distribution systems collapsing under the weight of retarded chaos magic designed to keep people unable to think.

The secret here is thus multi-fold:

- what they think, which is the basis of our esoteric mythology
- what they want you to think, which is the basis of our profane mythology
- what you should really think, which is:
(a) how stupid they are
(b) where they really come from and how this world really came to be
(c) how to make the world a better place
(d) how can you live well and cope with this knowledge

probably something to do with language and how it manipulates our world

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>>525870047
>It's like everyone sitting around waiting for Jesus to return but when he actually does it's just chaos and panic despite the entire point of waiting around for the last 11,500 years being this exact moment. A comical irony inherit to all things in the universe.
This is quite humorous.

Ok, that helps tie something together for me. I knew a bit about rumors of Jesus' death on the eclipse the day before (or on) Passover, and it's just way too perfect of an astronomical explanation for Jesus. You can even go back 30 years before this Passover event and get your Saturn return, so Jesus is the Saturn return ending precisely when we complete one sequence of Zodiac symbols (12,000 years aka basically right around the second Younger Dryas. So, there is some debate over whether the pre-Younger Dryas people are separated by cataclysm or simply time. The legends would have you believe it's both, and the archaeological finds in North America suggest to me that the cataclysm angle is real. The geological surveys of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and the research into a Younger Dryas comet impact suggest it is real too. Solutrean theory is one potential explanation for how it happened, but maybe not the only.

>>525872266
Great read. This touches on the black magic of law. The pen's great power is to write law. Even banking is just credit, which is just writing a ledger, which is just a contract executable by law (and enforced for "order").

>>525872840
>I knew a bit about rumors of Jesus' death on the eclipse the day before (or on) Passover, and it's just way too perfect of an astronomical explanation for Jesus
If Jesus was a planet then things make sense from this perspective
>You can even go back 30 years before this Passover event and get your Saturn return
27 years. You can also do 27,000 years as a multiple
Add cubes of processional numbers together 3**3 + 4**4 + 5**5. Repeating numbers were used to create the universe this is essentially how you create an egregore of physical matter. You can also do 333 or 33 and divide by multiples of 10. I it will work as it's on a harmonic of the octave. It was music that did it, the 12th note is an octave of the first, then tune it to triads and the math kinda pops out by itself if you reference the scale length of 4 octaves to an exact ratio of light. Play the right notes and you get

>POWERSLAVE

Realistically speaking yes, Quetzalcoatl was a fair skinned man with blue eyes who sported a Swastika so there's really no hiding it from my perspective

>>525872180
Yes, I think there are several linguistic secrets. This would be among the high level stuff preserved in a culture around a particular language. If you say Hebrew, then I say ancient Druid and then Arabs (Edomites specifically) stole Hebrew and claimed it came from them.

I think the very nature of language leads to mathematical concepts. Thus, you could discover mathematics by natural linguistics, which are as broad as we are capable defining thoughts as. Languages should thus truly be grouped by the size of ideas which they can adequately explain. The first evolution leading to civilization would have been the systematization of language, either naturally evolved through action (war even) or simply philosophical self-reflection. If the former, it was the circumstance that required a language complex enough to encode it, which led to novel ways of thought outside of the original activity. This origin could be big game hunting, since this is where the great material cultures of 30,000 years ago derive. This would be compatible with the Solutrean theory.

In other words, natural language is the language for the computation engine that is the brain. That does imply brains could have different latent languages. Some divide these as visual vs audio vs sensory, etc, and others group the brain into personality traits, which ancient priests grouped into trees of archetypes and modern day psychologists group into isolated variables within personality theories.

These archetypes are certainly powerful and still largely secret (though readily available for anyone with a library card). Maybe we cannot perfectly say why all of them are so uniquely powerful symbols. However, I think constructing a model of the physical body and how it interacts with the world (including an OODA-like loop for executive function which your brain forms an identity out of.

>>525876250
Understanding the nature of identity and how the brain processes language would be roughly the state of the art, at least 100 years ago. Today, it's probably software, hardware, and the intelligence operations in between that make life hard for good actors.

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>>525868192
Probably picrel

>>525874948
>If Jesus was a planet then things make sense from this perspective
No, I get that. I think the situation was that you had an astronomical society claiming to be 12000 years old and making prophecies about its recording of physical history.

Conversely, you have a guy who lived at roughly this time (although most secret accounts claim he actually lived, meaning the most you could claim about a 33 AD incident is that a ritual was performed, but it may have no other reason to appear in historical text. That is why how history books lack much record of the ritual. However, our history books might say a lot more about him in other contexts, and it's understanding these relationships that helps you understand why 200+ years later, the astronomical society (or some aspect of it) chose him to be the official avatar that proved their prophecy.

However, we also have to go back and look at what Jesus' actual prophecies were. He makes allusions to the astronomical/hermetic society, and apparently he had royal blood from within it, but the bulk of his message isn't just about that. He does wish to expose their control structure, but his revolution isn't based on his identity alone. It's based on teaching people the same stuff you learn in buddhism. Jesus' real identity was a teacher similar to Buddha but supposedly from Plato's school as well.

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>>525868192
Switzerland rules the world, the Templar and Maltese knights are the New World Order, humanity is manipulated as cattle, and the Knights of the Temple are protecting a black cube sentient encyclopedia, the gift of Prometheus, the apple of the serpent, and they are trying to summon the Unitarian singularity from Dead Space except it will actually be Abraxas. The serpents of Abraxas' legs are the broken oroborous, the boundaries of the universe. They are summoning the antichrist with the black cube technology if Saturn to break the universe and subsume all human consciousness into the Monad superman and give birth to a "god," the same transhumanist god of Mithras who conquers Sol Invictus and makes Sol Invictus bow before him.
Our true history is hidden in the Vatican. The papacy practices ancient Egyptian rites. Rome was just Egyptian princes and the Roman Empire never ended. Both sides of WWII were controlled, Hitler was a puppet too, and they keep killing us in religious wars to eugenically shape us as slaves until they can summon the antichrist by releasing the machine intelligence of Prometheus' gift, the black cube at the heart of Solomon's temple, the light in the stone at Lichtenstein into a biomechanical body so that it can conquer the world as homo deus, moschiach ben David, Mithras made manifest having chiseled himself out of stone.
Fucking Chaldean semites communing with daemons for gnosis.

>>525876250
The fastest way to your destination is the detour, yeah

>>525877109
>Mithras made manifest having chiseled himself out of stone.
It would be a hell of an honor to fight such a thing

>>525876931
I think the real identity is most likely Apollonius of Tyana with Greek, Phoenician, and Scythian ancestry. Through his Scythian line, he would have been a claimant to the throne of Iran (previously "Persia", then "Parthia"), a claimant to the Ptolemaic throne of Egypt, and possibly a son of Caesar. The Caesarian claim is where I think this gets wacky because we can more easily find key figures who fit the first two two requirements. We have Ptolemy of Mauretania who is both Ptolemaic and potentially Scythian by way of Macedonian and recent Anatolian marriage. The Anatolian side, from which Apollonius may spring, is the origin of the church that we now call christianity. Conversely, the Ptolemaic/Macedonian side is may be responsible for more of the regalia. Point being, each side of his family viewed him a little differently, but there was a joint understanding later on that something big had happened with him, so these two elements are kind of mashed together. And keep in mind, these traditions are related, but they are not the same.

To revisit the Caesarian claim, I suppose we should also remember that even Augustus (Octavian) was the adoptive son of Julius, and Tiberius was the adoptive son of Augustus. This is actually pretty fucking odd once you see it. The beginning of our entire era is this great empire kicking off its run with three straight men who adopted boys, raised them, and then gave them things. Do you think no rituals were involved? No abuse? I'd suggest guessing again.

The point is, any children of Julius and Cleopatra would have been high ranking people in Roman law. I would think that even a will wouldn't easily transfer power from a legitimate son and an adopted one.

>>525878195
It makes me think about the murder of Caesar and if this could have been through the camp of Octavian's mother.

So, I think Caesar's murder and Jesus' sacrifice parallel each other in the sense that the Octavian faction killed Julius and was co-existing with the faction that wanted dead this buddhist prophet (named Apollonius) traveling around the Mediterranean, which we know as Flavians, who I think collaborated with Herodians.

I think as a consequence of the death of the Claudian dynasty, there was the potential for Julius' lovechild's family to finally claim Rome (which is what the so-called Roman-"Jewish" wars of 66-70 AD were really about), so the Flavians put a squash on it and were rewarded with the title of king.

Thus, what we get from Catholicism is essentially Flavian Christianity, which is vaguely pro-Apollonian mythology served by an anti-Apollonian church structure (who carefully cull anyone who let out the secret that the Roman emperors and bureaucrat generals tried to kill all the noble blood from the Scythian Empire and completely change the constitution and nature of Rome, the largest nation at the time. That's why the secret of Christianity is so important.

>>525871792
so no nephilim teaching venom medicines and animal husbandry/agriculture?
also tell the jews reading this theyre a bunch of outsider tribes cobbled together through stolen practices and storm god idols. they have no secret other than Babylonian deceit and subversion

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>John 14:6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me.

Jesus Christ is the only truth.

>>525878446
>so no nephilim teaching venom medicines and animal husbandry/agriculture?
I think they taught hermeticism, and hermeticism is what makes animal husbandry possible. I don't know what was domesticated pre-flood, although there are some interesting camel species in north america. The snake venom and the overall practice was medicine was definitely part of the original wave though. It was probably retaught several times. For instance, civilization evolved/restarted around 4000 BC in Mesopotamia. That doesn't mean that was the first wave. The first wave according to other signs was like 5000 BC, which means there's a 5000 year gap between those events.

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>>525869391
Nice esau gambit retard. hashem, ba'al, ba'alpeor, qos, baphomet, allah, vishnu, shiva, brahma, indra, ghanesh and moloch tongue my balls in submission.

>>525876931
All the prophets secretly attended a school where knowledge was taught to them by an ancient (even in those times) Semitic society of which was already familiar with the ideas of Kabbalah. Many of the Greeks did, as well. They learned from the Halls of Alexandria where the priests there taught them how to decipher and interpret the ancient books (likely remnants of the anti antediluvian civilization which we know was active 11,500 years ago) where their own individualized interpretations eventually stemmed out into the various major religions we see today and the respective factions eventually split up and formed sects such as the Pharaohs and Illuminanti and each bloodline is all making absurdly ridiculous claims trying to cash in on 20,000 year old "inheritances" This is where all that "It was promised to me X years ago" shit is coming from. They're just trying to collect on an imagined debt without having to explain the nature and value of it.

Just a bunch of shits playing musical chairs with information powerful enough to warrant yeeting off good portions of humanity to preserve the integrity of the game

>>525877109
Well done.

>>525880323
What’s this lard ass shit? That bitch is full of seed oils, microplastics, and nigger DNA. She’ll be lucky to live to 55.

>>525881758
Can you humor me with the pre-Younger Dryas claims that actually make sense? I made the claim of big game hunting in Europe and North America, but there's also seafood-eating divers/sailors. I suppose in makes sense that these could be essentially the same people and building sailboats could have easily come before real animal husbandry. Although like I said, camels in North America are curious.

It also doesn't have to be Solutrean, or if it is them, JUST them. It's just the most convenient way to explain eastward movement after that time period.

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>>525868192
The fuck is this cringe esoteric shit? The answer is simple. What's the number one cause of humanity's problems? Humans 100% of the time. So how do you fix it? Not by killing them but by understanding them. Hence, learn human nature so you realize that communists are not human and should be shot.

>>525880338
>hermeticism
i hope they come back soon
be well anon
<3

>>525877109
>so that it can conquer the world as homo deus, moschiach ben David, Mithras made manifest having chiseled himself out of stone
convince me this is a better use of one's time than having a fap and nap

the "hidden truth" is that whoever is willing to do the most heinous things for their own benefit, wins
thats why empathy, ((christian values and morals)), being a good person, selflessness etc are shilled so much
as long as someone still takes pride in and feels good for "doing the right thing", they won't ever have what it takes to get to the top
thats why they have those blackmail parties and societies, it's to test how willing someone is to abandon all human decency, all compassion, all love and respect, all dignity for power aka money
they don't want anyone in their circle lecturing them about morals or anyone that endangers them by suddenly feeling bad for what they do and then ruin it for everyone else, they need to be sure that all someone cares about is winning, no matter what it takes
some might call this selling your soul to the devil but it's not that deep, it's just being willing to be a demon if it benefits you

>>525882497
>Can you humor me with the pre-Younger Dryas claims that actually make sense?
This is difficult to answer because paleomagnetisim offers some very conflicting idea when it comes to which pieces of land were physically where at what given times. We say continental drift, but then there are sea shells ontop of mountains with rocks that share almost identical "fingerprints" with other rocks all the way across the ocean, which do not show severe erosion (they should be literally eroded to dust, they would be sitting there for hundred of millions of years), which is NOT possible unless they had been moved catastrophically fast. There is other evidence too, but it is possible the Earth did not look like the Earth as little as 27,000 years ago, and continental drift speaking, it should look nearly the exact same

So it's hard to say. We have to trust carbon dating, and the science is there the problem is non organic artifacts could be 100 or 10000000000000 years old. Only entropy can tell this tale.

>>525882872
>the "hidden truth" is that whoever is willing to do the most heinous things for their own benefit, wins
This is profoundly retarded, they're going to get rolled by love and truth so fucking hard

>>525883820
ok, call me when that happens (never)

>>525876250
>In other words, natural language is the language for the computation engine that is the brain
The modulated frequencies of the output can be collapsed into a fast Fourier Transform, and because there's math here the output follows a deterministic pathway to the input which would have been the initial cascade of thought patterns to begin with. It's all just oscillations.

You have a constituent of the universe producing information yielded from at least two localized pockets of entropy. This would be two people talking. Conversely, we also have a pair of particles who's information can be described as a wave-function. Which one of these is technically alive? You mean the universe instantiates consciousness from a mathematical equivalent of an entropy black hole.

So really, if we simply organize the universe in a specific way it starts producing information all by itself. Ergo consciousness is a fundamental force of nature and cannot NOT exist in the same sense that electromagnetism cannot NOT exist. We simply organize our universe in ways which electromagnetism becomes useful to us.

Don't worry though the NSA already figured all of this out and there is VERY cool stuff you can do with language and math (it's fundamentally obeys physics) to somewhat reliably infer what people's thought patterns are. There's a YouTube video which explains it, but essentially language is a function of math once you start exploring it properly

>>525884514
>Which one of these is technically alive?
Everything is alive. It's a question of which entity is in charge of the mass. When I die, my body will be alive, and as organisms turn it into mulch for the grass, life will continue to flow through it. It just won't be my life because there will be nothing in the head directing the flow of traffic.

I suppose you could technically say planets are alive and thus everything big and small is part of something that is alive, but not everything self-determines or is part of a local pocket of self-determination. As you allude to, a higher version of this is self-awareness of one's self-determination. And then even within that space, you have people who act on this information with extreme fervor and people who act on it with extreme fear or lethargy.

I think the real idea of consciousness is the two world dichotomy. Something begins to attain consciousness if it preserves an internal model of the world. Call it a biochemical stored-program application. This is NOT the same thing as an internal model of replication (DNA), although some believe the replication pathway interfaces with consciousness in interesting ways.

Anyway, the two world dichotomy (inner world, outer world) is how consciousness originates, and then the only trick is to discover that you actually have the two worlds and are interacting with one when you typically think it's the other. This is part of the mirror test, but the mirror test only gauges a baseline level of understanding.

The even higher threshold for consciousness is not just that you have an internal model, or are aware of it and what "you" are, but that you begin to interact with it and mold it to the tastes of a deeper intelligence, which is the crowd-sourced "you" as well as the individually-crafted "you". Of course, if it's crowd-sourced, then it's unlikely in many circles that you'd be getting an accurate story of this, so your personal model awareness and modulation is limited.

>>525886231
I am physics, anon
This means I can create a radio of myself
Isis commssioned the building of the Pyramids to locate Osiris's soul
This is the largest man made object known to date, aside CERN
For the exclusive purpose of doing this - turning themselves into a radio wave

>>525869391
>>525869428
>low iq: its the jews
>akchually: wall of text
>high iq: its the jews

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>>525871738
Mitochondria were parasites in the beginning. They now power everyone of our cells

>>525887923
don't fall for their dnc shilling. The common jew is at greater risk to be sacrificed for the 3rd temple to be resurrected than non-jews

>>525888215
Consciousness exists to server the needs of the limbic system
You know, one ribosome to another

>>525868192
>truth is power

Only autistic people think this

>>525890718
If one knew all
What is the power of any

>>525870164
It's not a worm/cancer/toxoplasmosis.

It's a biological weapon virus.

>>525868192
Feminism is caused by a biological weapon virus, invented in our distant interplanetary past, by a military cuck, which caused the fall of the human race and our exile on Earth. We are a species with amnesia and all the craters in our solar system were caused by that war.

>>525868192
Yes. Make a statement. The more things vehemently defend against it, the more likely there is something hidden. Beware though, sometimes what you find is worse than the problem you had before, and if you look it in the eye it sees you as one would an insect.

https://youtu.be/tDu_onvlr44

>>525868192
too much philosophy

truth is simple

you need people to do a job for you

only a few can

truth is we all come from from god

therefore we are equally broken

equally useless

equally falling for the same hierarchical traps

equally suffering from the same diseases

equally back stabbing ourselves

equally shooting ourselves at the foot at every step

equally masturbating to two circles with two dots inside

equally falling for the same scams

equally falling for the same pyramid schemes

equally reincarnating and equally repeating this all over again

until ...... we do it again i guess

>>525893754
oh i did not noticed its an ai thread, btw by `we come from god` i did not mean to stimulate christian fags, may you all burn in budhist hell

>>525868192
my point is, nobody hides some all powerful truth, everyone has pieces

except of course the US Defence Department they seem to have sound weapons we were not aware of, but apart from that, life is pretty much dull and insufferable as it looks, people you think have some truth that allows them to turn into `elites` yes, they do have, its called `inheritance`, families pour shit ton of inheritance into their sons and daughters before they ascend into positions of power, so the truth you're seeking for is `luck`, given enough reincarnations you might also get lucky, for now the best thing to do is masturbate yourself to death

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>>525868192
1) To hide untelleable truths, mix a bit of distorted truth here and there in popular culture, so people link this subject as "old woman tell" and dismiss any "revelations" as "you read too much nobels".

2) if you are looking for truth, take a pause when you just encover a new layer.
Because, at one point, you will discover the final layer of truth, but may be tempted to continue searche for more and more, but all you will find is lies.

>>525868192
Truth doesn't exist

>>525868192
The truth they want you to forget is that things can get better even without you relying on them.