The BRICShitskin cope has been the best part of the past week, besides the seethe I mean.https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/behind-utter-failure-russian-anti-air-systems-venezuela
>>525871355Why obviously?
>>525870543Porous borders. They had all the time in the world to locate the position of each installation and blow it up with a missile. AA only works when it's mobile and isn't broadcasting its radar. It works plenty well in Ukraine, and America is almost out of AA equipment to send because it usually gets blown up within 2 weeks of arriving.
>>525871355There is literally no evidence for this
>>525871420>AA only works when it's mobile and isn't broadcasting its radar.How is it supposed to spot the enemy planes then?>It works plenty well in UkraineWhy is shit blowing up inside Russia all the time then?>America is almost out of AA equipment to send because it usually gets blown up within 2 weeks of arriving.Oh nm, you're just a babushka on a VPN.
>>525871410Bricshitskins believe everyone is incompetent like stupid Russians are so when they see actual competency then they doubt it and can't believe that's possible.
>>525870543This is what happened and if you believe anything else you are plain retard>Maduro signed excecutive order to hand out oil to US >If they evacuate him afterward>army was told to sit it out by commander Madurotake your meds>why they took his wife with him retards
>>525871532>supposed to spot the enemy planes then?Broadcasting a position with radar is not smart>Why is shit blowing up inside Russia all the time then?Long distance drones. I don't think you understand the discussion at hand, there are no aircrafts in Russian territory or anywhere near the front lines because of Russian AA. >>525871532>nm, you're just a babushka on a VPN.Only retarded leftists support Ukraine, why are you here? R*ddit hugbox is that way faggot
>>525871468>his wifenigger please, this was rescue mission not a fucking kidnapping
>>525871468The only people killed were Maduro's Cuban bodyguards and a few abandoned AA missile systems.If you don't see the bigger picture you're just another glownigger.
>>525872743I didn't post any article you dumb ass. If the implication is that Russian AA is ineffective it's kinda silly honestly because the evidence that it is effective is in the news daily. Is this your first time realizing that only faggots lefties Democrats dykes homos and godless Europeans support Ukraine and you're not sure what to think?
>>525872982You are a fucktard, no other comment needed
>>525870543The only resistance was Maduro's security personnel because everyone else was bought off. S300's are for shooting down jets at long range and up to high altitudes, missiles, etc. You don;t use S300's and related shit to shoot down helicopters at low altitude, you can literally do that very easily with small arms and HMG's. This is also what MANPADs excel at. Literally everyone stood down, a few HMG's or 50's era AA guns would have shredded those helicopters apart, everyone would have died if there was any resistance from the military. Despite this, 5 personnel still died and helicopter almost got shot down, entirely due to small arms fire from his security team most likely.
>>525873316>everyone else was bought off.Or pissed off their tits. The whole military is a daycare.
>>525873188Bot? All the support for Ukraine is purely from the far left militants. I know there's lots of redditors here after the dyke got splattered by ice, but damn are they this unaware?
>>525870543>Behind The Utter Failure Of Russian Anti-Air Systems In Venezuela>Behind The Utter Failure Of Russian Anti-Air Systems In Syria>Behind The Utter Failure Of Russian Anti-Air Systems In Iran>Behind The Utter Failure Of Russian Anti-Air Systems In Belarus>Behind The Utter Failure Of Russian Anti-Air Systems In Russia
>>525871355This is my favorite cope
>>525871965Yeah okay Serbian. Got the metodika anyway.>>525872387>Broadcasting a position with radar is not smartRight, so what is the purpose of the radar then if you can't use it?>Long distance drones.Why doesn't Russia use their AA to shoot them down?>Only retarded leftists support Ukraine, why are you here? R*ddit hugbox is that way faggotbop beepy
>>525873316It's crazy you know all this. You must be a glownigger. Is that why Iran's shit didn't work too? Is it why Russia's doesn't work in Russia now?
>>525872387There are no russian aircrafts over ukraine. Because of all the AA. Also didn't russia lose a fucking awacs to a patriot recently?
>>525873407Israelimericans can't even write a coherent post in their own native language. Your post is simply unintelligible. You can't even write in your mother tongue, it is truly ogre
>>525871468>There is literally no evidence for thisYou mean besides the obvious fact that there was almost no anti-air defense when US warships had been sitting off the coast & US politicians had made their intentions crystal clear? Is everyone in bongland daft?
Russian cope is delicious. You'd think after Russian S-300 got BTFO in Armenia by old soviet crop dusters turned into drones would be a humiliation ritual enough and a lesson not to rely on it.
>>525873316>5 personnel still died...
>>525873882They just didn't work.
>>525873316The Russian's had given the Venezuelan's 500 manpads. They weren't used. Clearly there was a stand down order. The instant I saw the footage of the choppers flying over the city I knew it was all wrong. It should have been Mogadishu 2.0 but the US choppers just cruised on in like they were out for a stroll.
>>525873589A lot common sense. Watch the video, you can see the helicopters flying at super low altitude over the city, that's like suicide. Anything could hit those. Also we had extensive intel and knowledge beforehand of the compound in order to actually get Maduro. He ran to a safe room with his wife, she hit her head on the door or something before we got them. If anything went wrong or slowed down, a meager force of 200 would have been killed. There's no time to be fumbling around the compound finding your way around assuming you manage to get there in one piece. About half of what I'm saying Scott Ritter and Col Macgregor said on Judge Napolitanos show anyways.
>>525873316>Despite this, 5 personnel still diedProof? Or just pulled out of your ass?
>>525874169Cope>>525874158dilate>>525873882seethe >>525872387ACKnowledge your fault tranny and seek christ
>>525874169>half of what I'm saying Scott Ritter and Col Macgregor saidlmao. sounds like no one is celebrating there in your American oblast
>>525871355this 1000 percent! I have been covering the Venezuela situation since 1/5/2026 two days after Zog America launched an illegal military operation.
>>525870543They forgot to plug it in
>>525871711Pretty much this.Leftist jews in journalism quake with terror at the idea that someone could just end any of their comminist faketopias so easily.
>>525870543Did anyone ever really take BRICs seriously ?
>>525874275No you just fly some helicopters in and magically nobody shoots at you and you just guess your way through the compound. It's possible, you can always guess right, it's technically not impossible. This is how critical operations to kidnap world leaders are done.
>>525874169>common senseAnd your expertise on sead and helicopter insertions comes from...?
>>525870543>west gives weapons to Ukraine and it fights for four years>Russia gives weapons to Venezuela and it fails to use themWould have mentioned Syria but technically that went on for a decade it just ended abruptly
>>525874158They're drug gangsters larping as a government/army. They're not Germans who fought for the Führer to the bitter end, on top of that they're low IQ shitskins. They want to enrich themselves only and are not warriors. They knew if they resisted then Trump would rape them double as hard.
>>525871355I want to smoke your copium. You're seething too much.
>>525874516Seems like what happened lmao. And it made you super super angry too.
Remember when China wrote that book about how Venezuela was supposed to defeat America and give it a humiliating blow?
>>525870543Zero hedge is also trying to push Iran as a nothingburger; I assume because Iran is one of the few friends Russia has
>>525871711So...Trump just made Venezuela considerably more unstable than it already was, to get a type of oil that requires massive amount of investments and infrastructure (therefore requiring utmost political stability) and that is.... Competency? He invited Exxon at the white house to tell them "hey look what I got for you" and the embarrassed Exxon exec basically tried to explain that Venezuela is completely uninvestable and if it was it would take billions of dollars and at least 16 years before the first barrels of literal tar make it to the US gulf refineries.
>>525874336>illegallol
>>525870543It's not a cope and your living in denial simple as >General Javier Marcano Tábata arrested, who was head of Military Counterintelligence (DGCIM) and Presidential Honor Guard. He is accused of providing coordinates of President Maduro and disabling anti-aircraft defense protocols. #CubaConVenezuela 1/8/2026https://x.com/luisuhjrebelde/status/2008857827872530714>Venezuela’s interim president Delcy Rodriguez fires general in charge of Maduro's guard. Javier Marcano Tabata was responsible for the presidential honor guard — the unit tasked with protecting the head of state. The dismissal marks one of the first changes to her inner circle 1/8/2026https://x.com/RT_com/status/2009214599816708606 'Betrayal' of Maduro likely reason for his capture — Belarus Security Council State Secretary Volfovich>'To fly so brazenly and safely through another country's airspace without even receiving warning shots is simply impossible' 1/12/2026https://x.com/RT_com/status/2010708394450338201 use some common sense and you will know that what I have posted is the truth
>>525874541So if helicopters were flying that low, you don't think they would be extremely vulnerable to all manner of AA gun? The kind which can't be jammed or fooled by flares. In Vietnam, most aircraft shot down were due to simple AA guns, and these are jets. This is a slow moving helicopter with minimal support to suppress enemy fire coming out of a fucking city, which is full of cover and potentially lots of people firing from lots of places.
>>525874720It's so funny how hard you chinks are seething about it lol.>>525874729I can't believe you typed up all that shit I didn't read.
>>525874704So you actually think that's what happened and the US would put it's highly trained best SOF in a position where they easily can all get killed, captured, etc? After what happened in Somalia too? Let me remind you that was a mob of illiterate voodoo niggers with AK's and shovels.
>>525874717Iran is a nothing burger. The protestors aren't going to take over the country.
>>525871468According to sources (zero hedge's asshole) it is "well understood"
>>525873624no?
>>525874729>Nooo it was an inside job I swear goys>Belarusanother ruse from Belarus
>>525874720Their oil is still going to China and other shit holes so their oil infrastructure works. That oil what they have is the same Canada has and the USA has the infrastructure to refine it especially in Texas.Oil companies simply want that the government insures any investments.
The af was flying tests for weeks to determine the capabilities of the chink radar. There may have been an insider telling the US if they spotted the flights on the radar, but we probably hacked their war room and were just seeing how the radar boys reacted. Once we determined the limits of what china is capable of detecting (four aircraft required to fly in tight formation) we had all of the information we need. This isn't about the AA, it's about the radars.
>>525874840>So you actually think that's what happenedYep, and it was so kino.
>>525873589didnt israel try to destroy all iranian aa before with small drones etc? nvm.. enjoy rest of the day :)
>>525874707>Remember when China wrote that book about how Venezuela was supposed to defeat AmericaNo I don't. What is the book's title?
>>525875010The whole "drugboat bombing" campaign was just a deflection to habituate their radar spics to seeing US planes flying around constantly.
>>525874725it was an illegal military operation because Zion Don did not warn the Zio Congress before he launched the attack to capture the maduro, also many and I mean many foreign countries have spoken out and have publicly stated it violates international laws govern by the UN. >I’ve been consistent across presidents: only Congress has the power to declare war. Whether it’s Venezuela, Libya, or anywhere else, decisions of war shouldn’t be left to one person. Our Constitution is clear on that. 1/7/2026https://x.com/RandPaul/status/2009037865041244453
>>525870543Israel has critical infrastructure backdoors in most countries all over the world. That's one of the big reasons that the US government can't break relations with Israel.They may be committing a holocaust in Gaza and the West Bank and destroying our country internally, but they're super useful to the regime that controls the US.
>>525875036Same as Ukraine did to all those Russian bombers. Thank goodness you escaped across the border from all that.
>>525875010you really think that you are some kind of superpower? only power you have is petro dollar and it wont last long. i hope we get to fuck you up in greenland :)
>>525874973the oil is not going anywhere so it's no win for zog at all.one could even call it a loss.>>525875082>What is the book's title?niggermutts enjoying ju-ju cum
>>525875088That's something I hadn't thought of. It would set their radar boys on alert and paying attention to the consoles instead of having a coffee and us having a false nwgative.
>>525875149We make natos jet engines. There is a kill switch on them.
>>525875104Rand's trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. Not his fault, but congress has been letting presidents get away with this since at least Dubya or Clinton, arguably all the way back to Vietnam.
>>525874803>>525874928the truth is always a hard pill to swallow, but swallow it you must
>>525874973It's famously under invested, China is probably just buying their shit tar as a gesture of good will to gain influence in the US backyard, IIRC it makes up a tiny portion of their oil import.And it's not about the refining process, of course the US has the refining capacity. It's the extraction and transport. You need to inject massive amount of energy to extract this crap and you need diluents. It's a complex logistical chain that cannot be invested in when you have a headless communist government running the country with militias fighting each other.If you seriously think Trump or the CIA put any thoughts about the long term implications of this little show you are a complete moron. It's literally just to gain temporary leverage and for show. Woman psychology.>>525874803Let the grown ups talk.
>>525875088So you think the best way to conduct a risky extraction behind enemy lines is to make sure the enemy is on his guard?
>>525875234Bricshitskins lost another faggot leader against the ebul white west but somehow the USA lost?Are you like Arab losers who believe Israel lost too after raping palirats extremely hard?Trump obviously talks nonsense like usual and the USA doesn't owns the oil but they lost absolutely nothing and showed the world that the USA can still kick balls.
>>525875540>white westlmao
>>525875425not only that, but the Zog congress has been trying to expand the Zog's presidental powers in the NDAA and yes he has fren
>>525874745>all manner of aa gunSo large, crewed weapons that would have to be placed out in the open or on top of roofs to have effective fields of fire? Something that would be visible from space?Also, do you think it's easy to hit a target moving over a city at about 100 km/h from a range of several kilometers? Especially, as you put it, without technology that could be jammed?
>>525875540Maduro was entirely unimportant.>they lost absolutely nothingopportunity cost.time is precious for zog.
>>525870543they were bought up by kikes years ago
>>525875149Seems like a waste of a vpn
>>525875649Small arms fire can critically damage a helicopter when it is flying low
>>525871711KekThe last few years havent been kind to Thirdworldisters. Even Iran is collapsing.
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>>525875649Tracer rounds are low tech and highly effective at determining how close you are to hitting your target. They could have taken down the apache, but they had too much trust in the Russian rocket AA systems.
>>525875540>white West>Rooting for IsraelYou are Indian and posting from a Palantir scam center somewhere in Germany. Nobody takes your rhetoric seriously, you are losing on all fronts. No one cares about Maduro, it won't change shit in any way for anyone.
>>525875789Flying beer cans. Technically better test aluminum, but in reality it's the same shit.
>>525871468evidence is that more cuban security mercenaries died than venezuelan civilians or army. What there is no evidence of but I believe happened was a spectacle so leftovers of government can now pretend they are forced to cooperate with US. It depends on what will happen with Maduro, if he walks free, entire thing was a staged event.
>>525875459I didn't read it though babushka, sorry.>>525875481I know but you're a ricecel so you have the body of a child>525875502They weren't on their guard though. That was the point of the habituation campaign, as should have been obvious to you.
>>525875789You still have to hit the fucking thing. And hit it somewhere critical with enough force or penetration to actually cause issues. Redundant pilots, redundant engines, even the rotors are designed to eat small arms without losing tensile strength. There were 38 rotor wing losses due to combat during the entire afghan war. Less than 2 per year across thousands of insertion sorties each year. Nevermind all the landings at airports in cities like kabul, khandahar, herat, etc.
>>525872387>Long distance drones. I don't think you understand the discussion at hand, there are no aircrafts in Russian territory or anywhere near the front lines because of Russian AA.So those long distance drones are ground based rather than flying drones?
>>525871410because that's what the CIA does. a couple hundred grand to the right officer and the air defenses are conveniently switched off for a few hours. you know, like leaving the gates of babylon unlocked
>>525876195It's crazy how easy it is to buy BRICShitskins isn't it? No wonder the CIA knew that Russia was going to invade Ukraine months in advance.
>>525876118In your head threatening invasion and positioning troops close to your borders decreases the readiness level of your army?
>>525876118then why are you replying to me saying you didn't? I will take that as a yes you did :)
>>525875961>We never supported and needed Venezuela anywayAlways the same cope from zigger retards.Iran is a worthless shithole too I remember when you idiots hyped them up but then they got their asses kicked once again.Israel is based for killing subhuman arabs and I wish we did that here too, at least we sell lots of weapons to Israel so in some way German hands killed those shitskins too.
>>525876274that was some asian verbal iq for sure>>525876284so you don't get transferred to storm z
>>525876254Probably because they had Ukrainians in the army.I heard they had a purge afterwards.It was retarded to have Ukrainian generals in Russian army
>>525876160You just help my point, even in Afghanistan which was a glorified police mission your helicopters got shot down by archaic weapons
>>525875915You do know that the mh60m DAPs that the 160th flew are basically gunships, right? There's even a video somewhere of some retarded vuvuzuelan shooting a manpad at one of the helos only for the rocket to veer off or "malfunction" close to the helo. The the heli just lights up the location the shot came from.Brb. Going to go find it.
>>525871420The issue in Ukraine has nothing to do with AA.It has everything to do with the fact that the Russian Air Forces are incompetent.Offense is the best defense.
>>525876322don't even go down that road, the resistance owned every cowardly kike that ever stepped foot into the meat grinder in gaza and they paid the price for it. You must be new or a kike shill that is still seething when the resistance put it on pissrael, check out /chip/ and let the salt works flow >The reality of pissrael see pic and seethe
>>525876432>It was retarded to have Ukrainian generals in Russian armyWhy were they retarded like that? The vodka?
>>525876058The entirely cuban personal security detail on maduro died during the operation to kill maduro, but the venezuelan army that was nowhere near the building survived? Weird. Must be a conspiracy.
>>525876542Nepotism most likely.They probably held that position since the fall of Soviet Union.
>>525876254Smooth pivot.
>>525873882>Is everyone in bongland daft?No but we do have more than our fair share of retards.
>>525876480No, I actually didn't look into what we flew in for the op. But I am now because that seems kind of funny.
>>525876254just in basic cost analysis if it's cheaper to bribe some mid-level guy that it is to fire a cruise missile salvo it's a no-brainer to do that
>>525876743How else would they have known so far in advance?
They seem to be working in non turd world countries filled with people who will sell out their country for $10 million.>A Russian commander has said his S-300 air defense battery shot down a US-made F-16 fighter jet operated by Ukraine.https://www.rt.com/russia/630823-f-16-shot-down-ukraine/
>>525876462>you just help my pointYou need to go back.Less than 2 losses a year flying thousands of helos over a third world shithole vs. Flying a few dozen helos over a third world shithole for 30 minutes, at night, with the power shut off, with key aa and garrisons getting jdam'd right before.
>>525876515Aren't most estimates that around 300000 palirats died?They're winning yet cry nonstop about muuh genocide. Highest estimate for Jews killed is 1700.So yeah there are death from Jews it's a war after all but gayrabs are obviously losing in every way. Those faggots in Lebanon got buck broken too.Total humiliation of stupid arabs once again.
>>525876824Why can't they shoot down the drones blowing up Russian oil refineries?
>>525871410There's been US troop buildup for weeks, obviously the Venezuelan military must have been on high alert. Yet they didn't fire a single shot? Noone protecting the president, noone tried firing a cheeky stinger at the unprotected black hawks? Even somali pirates put up more resistance than that.
>>525876542probably a mindset of looking at ukraine's nationalist bursts in the 90's and 00's as unfortunate hiccups, they were part of russia forever prior to that
>>525873316>would have shredded those helicopters apart, everyone would have died if there was any resistance from the militaryClearly you dont know what tech is on a 160ths bird
>CIA ORDERED the entire venezuelan army not to fucking wheel out air defense vehicles out of the storage for yearsfucking funnycommie retards and /pol/estinians aren't as far in their delusions as they might think
>>525876959if you're some grunt in charge of a multi-million dollar weapon you're not going to fire it without orders and risk a court martial. plus AA systems probably require some kind of central signal to fire, otherwise they could be turned against your own forces if captured
>>525876773So you came to your conclusion that we couldn't have pulled off a 3 hour sead/raid mission based on vibes?
>>525877061>plus AA systems probably require some kind of central signal to fire,Retarded post
>>525876824>rtMust be true
>>525876958I guess they don't have an unlimited supply to they prioritize.
>>525876614Most pictures you see from Venezuela, the people who have guns never have magazines with them. That's very common for thirdie shitholes the thing they fear the most is their own population so guns especially ammunition are always hidden.So you obviously can't shoot if you have no ammunition.That special operation was so fast that the dear leader had no time to actually hand out ammo to their army.
>>525876959no they got used to seeing US planes all the time and didn't react when the raid happened because of that>>525876962Seems Russian intel is super incompetent then yeah?
>>525877153I'd say an oil refinery is a high value target whose defense would be prioritized anon.
>>525876926you dumbass, you are counting civilians as enemy combtants, let's see now, Pissrael fail to achieve any of it's military goals, had to agree to multiple ceasefires, got's it shit pushed in by resistance fighters wearing flip flops and ak's and a will to fight. Denied pissrael it's own shitty port, pool closed to pissraeli merchant ships, victim card status revoked, it's citizens taken captives and served humble pie. But yeah tell me again how pissrael got it's shit pushed in by Iran, also my favorite vid of when pissrael got's it's shit pushed in that night and lebanon was rocking the house with based sax chad simple as Based Sax Chad while pissrael get's owned edition https://files.catbox.moe/o55e2f.mp4
>>525877191new york city and the pentagon seem like high value targets, surely flying airplanes into them would be impossible - especially when you have the extremely knowledgeable intelligence agencies providing reports that such plans may be in the works
>>525876959>troop buildup for weeksOver a month, really. Try staying at "high alert" for a month straight. Complacency kills. I bet most vuvus didn't even think the US had the balls to drop bombs on their bases, let alone kidnap their president.>no one protecting the presidentExcept all those dead cubans. Which raises it's own questions as to why he didn't want vuvus on his personal detail.>no one shooting at the blackhawksThey did, actually. And they weren't unprotected. DAPs are basically high tech gunships that carry troops.
>>525875649Literally just a heavy machine gun that can be carried and operated by one or two guys will tear a chopper to shreds at close to medium range.
>>525876958Putin is a stupid nigger and reserves lots of weapons for a potential NATO invasion which will never happen instead of going all in in Ukraine.And those drones fly very low so air defense is worthless even if they could a air defense missile costs much more than a stupid chunk drone. Having a few soldiers on every oil factory with some manpads on hand would be the best way to counter that but somehow Russians don't do this
>>525871355yes but here's the rub, there is no way they were spreading this conspiracy down to the guy operating the SAMs. The more people who know the more likely the cat will get let out of the bag. There isn't just a big red off switch someone can flip and there would need to be hundreds of people who would be directly told to not shoot the helicopters (they don't need to know it's purposeful betrayal, but they'd put 2 and 2 together and spill the beans eventually). I'm sure we had spooks in there and knew all of the locations of their batteries, we hacked their power grid and would have had perfect satellite intel on the locations of the parts of the AD network that could threaten the operation. Generally speaking Venezuela does not have top end systems and arguably had a weaker AD network than Iran did, and Israel ran a train on Iran's AD network, immediately disabling it during their air/missile war. S-300 just does not seem like it can stop F-35. Maybe if there was a hot war where not all of the S-300/S-400s were destroyed in the opening days they could calibrate and defeat F-35 stealth but that requires a protracted war where modern AD survives first contact with modern stealth aircraft, which hasn't happened yet. >>525871468The current acting president's brother literally put out feelers for almost exactly what happened back in October, ie, removing Maduro from the country and having his sister, who is sort of a compromise between chavismo and the moderates/liberals take power. It's very likely that this was partially an inside job but I think the kinetic parts of the operation were real. I think if there was assistance it was just not reacting to intel appropriately and providing more defenses for Maduro.
>>525871468Notice none of the replies post evidence, just "open your eyes bro" type shit like always.
>>525871410Because basically nobody fired on the helicopters even though they were using downright suicidal tactics. The only dude who didn't get the message and fired off a manpad damn near brought that helo down. The military simply sat it out, which tends to happen when someone gets paid off.
>>525877511Welcome to geopolitics and war spectating - you're expected to use your brain and some semblance of critical thinking.
>>525877088I've seen a handful of things on and off. The fact that they were firing small arms and AA guns at camera drones the night after was where my presumption came from that they at least had those setup during the raid. I had heard apache in a news report or on the board. For the most part yes, I don't "know" shit on the raid because an after report is usually dull to me.
>>525877277Israels Goal was to kill gayrabs and they absolutely did that. Gaza is rubble and bombed to shit.You people are living in some fantasy world where Israel is collapsing any day now.Reality is that those 'resistance' faggots are losing.Yemen gayrabs stopped doing anything too.Syria is gone and has Israel friendly leadership.Tell me how is Israel losing?Third world monkeys seething at Israel? They don't care because the west are their paypigs.
>>525870543They sure kick your ass in Ukraine , Jew Lmao
>>525877504>S-300 just does not seem like it can stop F-35. Maybe if there was a hot war where not all of the S-300/S-400s were destroyed in the opening days they could calibrate and defeat F-35 stealth but that requires a protracted war where modern AD survives first contact with modern stealth aircraft, which hasn't happened yet.S300s weren't even targeted. Or used. And the sky was full of gen4 planes. The military sat the whole thing out, zero resistance.
>>525877368Close range for a 2 person crew served is even closer range for a gunship. The only place the helo's would be truly vulnerable would be on the landing site and probably half a klik on approach. A site which has probably been half leveled by jdams and is then being eyeballed by the thermal cameras of the apache and other gunships covering the insert.
>>525877090why?
>>525877504At first I speculated like everyone there might be some sort of inside job thing going on.Now I think it's pretty clear that the administration profiled the VP (with the help and/or instigation of her brother) and saw that she was more friendly to US interests than Maduro. It's possible there was some communication with her prior to the raid, but that seems extremely risky to me. If the admin reaches out to her, and it turns out they're wrong and she's loyal, that seriously compromises any potential future action against Maduro or his regime. Still possible, though. I don't think the actual op had any inside help.
>>525874720Lmao chinkypoo if Venezuela lacks strategic value why has your bug nation and Russia been trying so hard to make them a close ally? Cope and seethe, your temu radar got dog walked and now 20 years of trying to get a foothold in South America is down the drainGet fucked
>>525877876VP is Jewish. She gladly help her kind
>>525877722then you don't know how to internet lol, the world has woken up to the cowardly kikes. Pissrael is in turmoil and they are having protests about the kikes trying to kike their way out of conscription lol. Isn't real does not have any real strength and it's manufactured protests in Iran deflated much like bunker bitch bibi. You have to rely on Zog America for help when you get your asses handed to you on a silver platter and you think pissrael is in shape to fight against Iran and the resistance? Nope, you don't have a clue of how assymetrical warfare is fought so I suggest you hit a text book son before you spout off like you know something. Meanwhile continue to dilate and seethe and do nothing bibi as Iran mog's the living shit out of that failed state called isn't real simple as
>>525871355OP's source
>>525877646>nobody fired on the helos except the ones that did.So after almost 80 years of everyone doing helicopters the best that the most expensive and highly trained military in the world can accomplish is "suicide mission". Okay. Thank you general for your insight and expertise on the matter.
>>525877697After someone breaks into your house and kidnaps your dog you'll probably be a little trigger happy the next day.
>>525871355>the armies of the enemies of the united states consists of traitorshuh. is that a better cope than just admitting you got btfo
>>525876824Funny how there's actually images and footage of our claims while russoids can only put out words.
>>525877696>>525877646The US is experienced in doing raids like this on a smaller scale. The Venezuelan military is already notoriously, comically inept. Completely taking out command and control communications, it's not hard to believe a bunch of soldiers were standing around holding their dicks while the helicopters flew over, no idea how to respond and not willing to act first while they're waiting for commands that will never come. We also know that dark flares were used extensively by the helicopters, so it's possible that even despite all that there was still some attempt to shoot them down, but only one made any sort of contact.
>>525871532>How is it supposed to spot the enemy planes then? Basically it's >Turn on radar long enough to get a lock>Shoot>Turn off radar>Fuck offThe early warning network (AWACS, long range radar etc) is the one that gives information on the planes in the vicinity of batteries, so they know when to turn on the radars.If there is no early warning capabilities, then it's most likely>Get a lock>Shoot>Turn off radar>Fuck off>Wait a while before turning on againKeeping radar constantly on is a high risk for batteries due to ARM/HARM, but I guess there's a possibility for that, too, if there are no early warning or anti-ARM systems in place.
>>525877876No way they leak to anyone plans to do a heli raid to capture maduro and lose the element of surpriss. That'd be asking for a PR disaster. Likely Trump left the VP and the rest of the regime for the exact reason we shouldn't have completely dismantled the governmenf of iraq after conquering it.
>>525874456lol u realize that israel/the jews are firmly on the side of the USA/Ukraine etc u fucking idiot
>>525871410because he's a flaming liberal and doesnt want to give trump any credit
>>525877994Usual cope, yeah in 2 more weeks Israel will surely collapse.....I don't care about that not much I just enjoy to see filthy arabs getting blown up to dust.Those niggers can't do shit or else Israel wouldn't even exist.The west still stands strong and the support for them will never stop as long as old boomer retards run our nations.
>>525875149THIS is my favorite cope.
>>525877317ok but why doesn't Russia use its AA to shoot down drones targeting it's oil refineries?>>525877404>Putin is a stupid nigger and reserves lots of weapons for a potential NATO invasionI don't believe Russia is reserving anything at all desu. No evidence for it.>>525877646Sounds like the same as what happens with Russian oil refineries then.
>>525871468>>525877511Well I got something like evidence:https://www.bbc.com/mundo/articles/c74vmgweweroAccording the VP, the one who sold him out was the head of venezuelan counterintelligence, and he has been destitute and sent to jail Of course, what people believe is that he is just the fall guy and Delcy herself was the spy, I myself believe EVERYONE sold him but indepently.Truth is no one actually liked him, not even his own party. He was there because the old dictator left him after he died but I barely had any idea who he even was before he took power 10ish years ago, never won an election by himself and he was just a bus driverThe man was a retard that ruined the economy and starved the country, many chavistas accused him of destroying chavez legacy. This is one sure way to get sold to an enemy that by the way has super sonic ray guns or something
>>525876195And still they can't get rid of the commie government after trying for more than 20 years?
>>525878539Satellite pictures show that Russia has some small buildups on NATO borders which is stupid and they could use those extra 10% in Ukraine instead.
>>525878539why didn't the US prevent 9/11 when they had the intel? you can shoot down drones 99% of the time, but then there's the off chance some get through
>>525873624>There are no russian aircrafts over ukrainethis just in: drones aren't aircraft.
>>525878454pissrael is collasping in real time, it's a pathetic parasite nation full of cowards and has to rely on other nations to fight it's war and for those nations to protect it, without Zog America you ain't shit simple as but even then I believe that Iran will smoke check pissrael and it will be no more and you cowardly fucks will try to find another nation to parasite off of that is if they will have your cowardly kike asses simple as
>>525878365is that why russia invaded to "denazify" ukraine?
>>525871355Iran has s300 too and we destroyed em all. Did we have "inside help" too ? Or does the west has alien tier tech compared to 3rd world shitholes with engineers that earn 5% of what they could earn in the west, thus leaving, while only the retarded engineers stay. Could that be the case brainlet low IQ goy cattle lacking critical thinking ? We shit on russian tech. And the BRICS party is well aware of that. Game over loser.Oh and by the way these systems cant be systimatically shut down like that even if you have traitors within, because the russians thought abour that, obviousely. So like how you need 2 keys to launch a nuke, but way more complex.In going to wash my hands now typing basic fucking shit to fucking retarded goy peasants. How do you even call yourself competition ? Fucking down syndrome cockroach. Disgusting.
>>525878620The fact that he used cuban "commandos" for his security detail is pretty indicative of his distrust towards his own people from top to bottom. Who knows how paranoid the guy was. He slept in a room on a military base that had a saferoom nearby. I don't think he or anyone suspected that the US would be fast roping in and kicking his door down. So why the saferoom? No, the US didn't pay off the military. Anyone that thinks that is retarded. But the military was designed for use against its own people, not repelling delta operators and gunships. The most they likely feared from the US was jdams blowing up their old busted migs. Nothing to stop stealth fighters from doing that.
>>525878081It's precisely because we are so experienced in helicopter warfare that we wouldn't use blatantly suicidal tactics unless we expected zero resistance whatsoever.
>>525879006Thanks. We know.
>>525878957but why doesn't Russia use its AA to shoot down drones targeting it's oil refineries?
>>525878539There are too many refineries for Russia to defend in any sort of comprehensive manner, and knocking down cheap drones with expensive missiles is stupid. But they do have dudes with manpads and machine guns firing at Ukrainian drones, just as Ukrainians have dudes with machine guns and manpads firing at Russian drones, we get regular videos of that shit.
>feels the need to post a thread>pretends she's not coping
>>525879188Iran had precisely two S300 batteries - and Israelis simply overwhelmed them with something like a hundred missiles, with some Mossad fuckery in the mix. Venezuela also has precisely two S300 batteries - and we didn't even attempt to engage them, nor did they attempt to engage us.
>>525879349Why ever go to war if there's more than a 0% chance someone might get hurt?
>>525871410because they had Maduro’s exact movements at all times according to the story, which means someone close to him (like a vice president who stands to gain a country) sold him outOr the official story is bullshit (more often the case)
>>525879570>Venezuela also has precisely two S300 batteriesNot anymore they don't
>>525879592The point is to take calculated risks, not stupid ones. Even after we paid off whichever general was in charge of Caracas, there are still risks - I mean some yahoo *did* shoot off an manpad and hit one of the helos.
>>525871355The inside help was for their benefit, not ours. If they wanted to play ball, then there'd be thousands dead rather than just Maduro's inner circle.We didn't employ Growlers to disable their shit anyway for no reason.
>>525879082the "nazi's" in ukraine aren't really nazis. they are just anti russian. the azov battalion pledges allegience to the jew zelensky and his jew cronies. russia uses propaganda whatever way it can to try to look good.
>>525871410because it's how every single coup is done
>>525879724>the general in charge of caracasDo you hear yourself talk? How would that convo go down exactly? "Hey, I want all you yayhoos to stay in your bunks tonight and ignore any explosions you might hear. The US is going to kidnap el presidente tonight, and I don't want any of you to try to stop them. Also don't tell anyone that I told you this, otherwise the entire raid might get ambushed..."
>>525879471>There are too many refineries for Russia to defend in any sort of comprehensive manner,That seems like something Putin should have though about before invading Ukraine
>>525876959>>525871410Let's not forget that the media is pretending this whole operation came out of the blue as if they hadn't been edging us all Autumn or that several color revolutions hadn't occurred during Trump's first term.>>525871468Are Blackhawk helicopters totally invisible to radar, retard?>>525874720The goal is to cut off a critical source of oil to the Chinese in preparation for WW3. This is also we are trying to topple the Khamenei regime in Iran. None of this has anything to do with your Ummah or the Axis of Resistance.
>>525879688They still do. We never engaged them. Their arifields and airforce is also completely intact.
>>525879940Tbf putin is a retard who belives his own lies. Probably why he gets along with steven segal. He probably thought his systemically corrupt and comically inept military was up to the task even after they failed to push to moldova in 2014.
>>525879068>If not for the west we would totally winYeah great but the west is with Israel and that will not change anytime soon. The reality is that Arab faggots are getting big mbed every day and they can't do anything against it only crying on the Internet.
>>525879935It's simple, the general issues a stand down order when it's time, and everyone... stands down. >>525879940Why, the sheer number of them means there is enough redundancy. The campaign against Russian refineries has done jack shit to change anything in this war.
>>525879940>That seems like something Putin should have though about before invading UkraineWhy do you need to think about it? If you have too many refineries then you can lose some without a problem. Would it be better to not make them and essentially impose their destruction anyway?
>>525879998I've got some bad news for you, vlad.
>>525870543S-300 is a very good system that is being used by both sides of the Ukraine War, spics are just incompetentFalklands War is another example
>>525880256Oh?
>>525880097The reality is pissrael can't get american boots on the ground in Iran no matter how much bibi wants. So much for pissrael being able to tell Zog America what to do. You will have to wake up to the fact that pissrael was check mated by Iran and the resistance and all pissrael has now is worthless money that they can spend or influence they can't but or anything else. If pissrael was so powerful like they say they are then they should have no problem getting american boots on the ground in Iran lol. Nope, pissrael has lost and it's only a matter of time before that shit hole parasitic nation collaspes and it tries to flee for another nation to suck off from lol
>>525880103If you aren't going to be serious about this then neither will I.
>>525880256Why are you so pedantically gay?
>>525880438Pretend if you want - I think being able to pay off the military of a country so that we can do what we want with no resistance is rather based in itself, a great demonstration of espionage acumen and soft power.
>>525880509because hes a low information but high confidence guy. he was surprised to learn that maduro was guarded by cubans which tells you everything. its a guy who just became a venezuela expert the moment they got maduro.
>>525880575Who was surprised lmao - the Cubans are the only ones who fought, which shows you how much Maduro trusted the military - and for good reasons.
>>525879419hey retard reread what I wrote. if you shoot down 99% some still get through
>>525880738that retard was surprised. maduro is cuba’s guy. im sure a bus driver became president by chance…the reason only cubans fought is because only cubans were part of his body detail. because he is cuba’s guy. this entire thing is about cuba in reality, venezuela was just a jenga piece low on the tower
>>525871410many good points made already, they missed that the raid was conducted during a full moon with fuck all cloud cover, spec ops would not do a raid with such visibility unless there was an absolute go to time to conduct it
>>525873434Those glow-in-the-dark CIA niggers are everywhere!
>>525880986Cubans fought because they weren't in the chain of command of Venezuela's military and we weren't able to compromise them.
>>525877061Long range radar guided weapons sure. A simple shoulder mounted heatseeker costs like $50k and is operated by a single person.
>>525876162you should ask yourself why all the patriots sent to the ukraine can't shoot downcast a few geran drones, then you'll have your answer
>>525881057>heres what you just said restatedthanks bro
>>525875104>laws govern by the UNThe UN doesn't govern anything, retard.
are you stupid? its south america, none of the countriss here are warlike or idealistic, as in theres no real allegiance ti anything, such as the flag or soil (dom pedro ii died in france because he didnt want bloodshed, meaning he didnt think brazil was worth it ffs) or people (miscigenation does that) and let alone some religious purpose, and i personally dont think maduro was that loved there either, making it even easier. its easy for the wealthiest nation in the world to buy the head of the military there and anywhere else (including my country) - this has happened countless times in the past (circa cold war) and they can do it again and again without firing a single shot. then, such reason being the opposite to whatever happens in the middle east, or china, or russia, or north korea, and even vietnam. you cant pull of this shit in those countries because theres a whole set of things about them that makes them nationalistic, territorial and warlike. stop believing propaganda and just think, honestly, it will be way less embarrassing
>>525880810why doesn't Russia use its AA to shoot down drones targeting it's oil refineries?
>>525881219If that's the case then why did the Zog America withdraw from a lot of the organizations within the UN retard? The UN is a kike ran organization also along with the IMF and council on foreign relations and many more, I guess next your going to say that the federal reserve is not ran by kikes to, go read up retard and lurk more before posting
>>525874729You’re trying to enlighten NAFO fags These are the same retards who cheer on literal jihadists who then turn around and start killing American soldiers
>>525881705no one is celebrating in dakota oblast
>>525879940You didn't think about returning vets dying in the streets after Afghanistan so what's your point?
>>525881614Why is Kiev a dead city?Drone swarming is used to over saturate AA zones It is deadly effective If Russian S-300s were working that night you’d have a lot of dead delta operators
>>525881755My point is proven, fearful of knowledge or downright ill faithed arguments
>>525881773>>525881778why didn't Putin think about it before invading like I asked?
>>525881773Notice how the little bitch keeps referring to oil refineries by the way >the effect of last year’s drone strikes on Russian oil refineries was less than 3%That’s how pathetic the “people” are you are trying to debate
>>525881705I'm spreading the truth about what happened in Venezuela when Zog America illegally invaded another country simple as
>>525881812I would never argue with you woman.
>>525873469Behind the utter failure of Ashton Cirilio's (what's his name? Robert?) tits. Puke emoji.
>>525881869>before invading Why did the AfU concentrate troop buildup on separatist trench fronts in mid 2021?Oil refineries can be rebuilt, Kiev’s energy grid during war time can’t You keep brining up oil, yet ignore that the Ukraine’s own capitol is a dead city with over 2 million people needing to flee it as of last weekend Who’s your money on in outlasting the other in attrition warfare
>>5258705431.) Insiders2.) Brown people running it3.) Russia doesn’t lose anything if Venezuela fallsYour last option: Russian incompetence.True, allowing 2 is incompetent, but, 3.
>>525881886Spread the truth sure, but these undesirables need only one negotiation tactic A bullet to the back of the head
>>525881981but why didn't Putin think about it before invading like I asked?
>>525881778According to the NY Times, they weren't even operational.
>>525881614why doesn't the ukraine use its patriots to shoot down the drones that have deactivated water and electricity in kiev?
>>525882067Why did the AfU concentrate troops on separatists front trenches in 2021 You can keep grinding up the oil refineries Russia is winning on attrition Kiev is a dead city Dnepropetrovsk is a dead city Kherson is a dead citySumy is besieged via artillery and air raids We can keep playing the question game An oil refinery is repairable A city’s entire energy infrastructure during war time is not
>>525882265why doesn't Russia use its AA to shoot down drones targeting it's oil refineries?
>>525882269why didn't Putin think about it before invading like I asked?
>>525882281retard, they are. but even if they shoot down 99% some get through.
>>525882317Why did Kiev concentrate troops on separatist front trenches in 2021?
>>525877317why do you think the conspiracy theories exist?the air defenses stood down that day btw, supposedly for an exercise.
>>525874858Everyone with more than working 2 neurons understands it.It's a (you) problem
>>525882281>>525882332Because using expensive missiles designed to down planes and other expensive missiles to shoot down cheap-ass drones is fucking stupid. It's easier to just repair the refineries.
>>525881533also something deeper that might shed some light on this topic is very simple - if for some reason cia and american military special forces decided to kidnap lula maduro style or even blow his brains off then at the very least 60% of the country would cheer, and if we only count the young population here then it would be even more. the reason for this, aside the core of what i said that south american countries are not warlike and territorial and with allegiances, is that the leadership of any given latam country is terrible, and its really terrible, in fact we even have in our own circles the theories that people like lula are in fact working for external forces to destabilize the country. lula, his party (pt) and the entirety of 'leftists' institutions or so their "thinktanks" and people behind propaganda and protests were prepped and are still financially backed by soros to do horrible things, for example in the late 90s and early 2000s they managed to outlaw gun legal ownership here or so the right to bear guns despite the democractic vote being against such move (the outlawing) and not only this but tons of progressive laws and rights were given and aggressively pushed, such as that of trans surgery being not only a right but free as long as the person has the patience to wait in the line for it, and this was done somewhere in the 2000s - this has been done way before obama was a thing, and so the "cultural marxism" that americans have been experiencing are not new in the slightest by us. its a huge rabbithole and its just terrible, judiciary being in favor of criminals and often giving them free pass out of prison making cops jobs useless and demoralizing, decadent "sex culture" as in sexualization of women being aired in hours that kids are awake and in home, and the constant romanticization of poverty and favelas and crime (be in national tv shows or songs of genre "funk") are all that have taken place with lula in charge.
>>525875540>white westDrop that VPN. There's no way that you're living at Germany.The only White people left are the old people
>>525882332seems like there must be a SHIT TON of drones then given how many get through>>525882347why didn't Putin think about it before invading like I asked?>>525882485>It's easier to just repair the refineries.No, a missile is much cheaper than repairing an oil refinery, not counting lost revenue from production. Sorry.
>>525879082you literally no nothing eh?
>>525882656You can keep repeating the question An oil refinery can be repaired A city’s entire infrastructure cannot Why did Kiev concentrate troops on separatist trench fronts?
>>525875481extraction is easier than canada and the distance is shorter than canada
>>525882714>You can keep repeating the questionbecause you refuse to answer
>>525883035No answer is good enough Again, oil refineries are repairable and a minor nuisance Kiev is a dead city Why did Kiev not think about its infrastructure before concentrating troops in preparation to invade the Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples’ Republics?
We can do this all night Langley When your capitol’s infrastructure cannot survive winter, and your people have to flee in the millions over night it is not a good omen of what direction the war is going
>>525870543He's a communist nigger lover I hope ICE kills him as he wants to destroy all white countries
I mean I just want you to take your mask off and admit to supporting genocide against the people of Donbass Are you a coward?You keep bringing up minor nuisances of repairable oil refineries Yet ignore that Kiev has multiple dead cities, a dead economy, demographics beyond the death point of recovery 10,200,000 who have fled to west Europe 8,500,000 who have become Russians 2.3-3.1 million dead
>>525882656What revenue - Russians export crude, and refine for internal consumption, with military getting priority. They have enough redundancy to simply tank these drone strikes. In the meantime, a high end AA missiles cost a shitton of money (Patriot interceptors are like $3 million each), and even when it comes to cheaper shorad systems nobody makes enough to deal with swarms of hundreds of drones. Cheap long range drones have changed the game, but their payloads tend to be on the small side.
>>525881886How will your AI pictures help to defeat Israel? Palirats get bombed nonstop but your pictures will somehow make the Arab colonisers win?
>>525882492i couldnt finish off the post... - so now if you have read this, you might understand that the us being concerned with issues such as drug trafficking and cartels and organized crime are very real, and its not hard to read my post and understand that the whole thing is a huge moral inversion. both the laws and the morals have been inverted here crossing all kinds of issues, and so the drug trafficking issue as the point of the pyramid to what im going to refer as old fashioned "satanism" is really important for any powerful enough nation thats still abiding by laws and ready for missions of 'international rescue' - organized crime here is really beyond us for it has become a beast of somekind, aside 'drug baking' and trafficking it does extreme violence, terrorism, murder, theft, assault, property stealing, sex trafficking and so on.its then obvious that the leaders who have been in charge for so long here, that have watched such beasts develop, are in many ways deeply connected to the issue, as in such presidents and their crew being the head of it - if to deal with that is necessary kidnapping or regime change by external means then nobody is complaining much. ive seen the us face a lot of criticism in social media, a lot of it is very cynical, for they say that the us only wants the resources of those countries, while it might seem obvious at first glance, the concern to whats happening here is legitimate, theres basis to it, and the countries that have never talked about it are actually suspicious.
>>525883266Why has Israel not secured southern Lebanon?Why has Israel failed three times to enter Gaza?Where did Israel’s most combat veteran officers and soldiers go?
>>525871355>actually Maduro wanted this
Not even hard to debate NAFO faggots, you losers have no idea what you are talking about Give me a fucking cyborgi subhuman at the very leastA real fucking die hard banderite scumbag NAFO fags are just retards
>>525883266took you long enough. How is Zog America bucking on pissrael and how is bunker bibi fleeing like a rat everytime a air raid sound goes off. Like I said pissrael can't even war simple as
Its been broken down and discussed to death by 9000 youtubers.There was a bombing campaign targeting military installations right before the helicopters arrived.A whole bunch of B2s, F22s and F35s.Venezuela did not send their airforce after themThey probably didn't even realize what was happening everything was so coordinated.It hit so hard liberals started simping for Israel and the Federal Reserve.Personally I think we just let ICE gas them all
>>525883694Whoops wrong image.Anyway it was so effective the left is jumping on neocon shit from like 2004 they're all so broken(and jewish) now
>>525883512Yes any day palirats will win, 2 more weeks and then it's done for sure.
>>525883996you be big mad that pissrael has not only lost the information war but is in the process of losing it's shit hole that it clings to, but yeah keep living in that bubble you created for yourself I'm sure it's working out great for you
>>525870543Russia and china 20 years behind us
>>525884367Nigger the S-400/500 is one of the best AA systems in the world. Even US Generals are want it.
>>525884987Those are garbage systems.Did not worked in Syria not in Iran and obviously in Ukraine.Russians are mongrels and can't never do anything right.
>>525879188you are the inside help
>>525885277Thats because Sand people are shit at most things.
Russian AA is great target practice
>>525871355>>525871410So you're still coping https://youtu.be/tJ9HNhzyVoY?si=4-8XVwqq5gduM-l6
>>525870543> i m literally Brad Pitt in his peak yearsyikes chud, get a personality. Also go advertize your schizo website somewhere else
>>525870543it was turned off nafoid. you can go back to losing the war in jewkraine. its all gonna be slavic. cope
>>525871420>AA actually works best when it's off
>>525870543>>525870543you're a dumb nigger
>>525881869Just answer the question, its the same answer
>>525870543>Air systems work on their ownYou can give brown people UFOs and they will still fuck it up and lose to White men with tactical gear and pistols.We've seen it in Syria, now in Venezuela.People think we are exaggerating when we say white people are leagues above everybody else....
>>525870543Venezuela was likely an inside job.So much of the information around it is absolute horseshit.I think Maduro cut a deal and agreed to participate in the dog and pony show.
because when Russia sells their gear to third world shitholes they don't give them any training. As a result those third worlders don't know how to properly use the equipment and are probably too disorganized to do anything because US special forces moved in quickly and the Venezuelan military just thought that doing nothing would make the problem go away.That's why the Houthis managed to cause the US navy to lose 4 jets or however many despite having less equipment than Venezuela. Because Houthis have discipline and they know what they're doing despite having less gear. Venezuela had gear and it was all inactive or turned off or left in the open and it got bombed, or whoever was supposed to operate them was standing around smoking cigs.
>>525870543Summary of the DiscrepancyThe article by "Tyler Durden" focuses on the brand of the missiles (Russian) because they are the most famous part of the system. However, defense experts (like those at CSIS and Zona Militar) are currently citing the lack of integration and the vulnerability of the Chinese command-and-control architecture as the true cause of the collapse.So, the article is inaccurate because it frames the event as a failure of Russian ballistics, when it was actually a failure of Chinese electronics and system integration.Here is the correction based on the current "post-action" reports from this week:1. The "Eyes" Were Blind (Chinese Failure)The article misses the critical first link in the kill chain: the radars. Venezuela’s air defense relied on the Chinese JY-27A and JYL-1 radars.These were marketed as "stealth hunters" capable of detecting U.S. F-22s and F-35s.However, reports confirm that U.S. electronic warfare (EW) and cyber attacks completely blinded or jammed these sensors in the opening minutes of the raid.Because the Chinese radars could not "see" the incoming aircraft, they could not pass targeting data to the missile batteries.2. The "Shooters" Were Mute (Russian Failure)The article focuses on the Russian S-300VM and Buk-M2E missile systems.While these systems failed to shoot anything down, it wasn't necessarily because the missiles themselves were defective (as the article implies).They failed because they were disconnected from the command network. Without the targeting data from the Chinese radars, the Russian operators were essentially sitting in the dark.Some reports indicate the Russian systems were destroyed on the ground by U.S. anti-radiation missiles before they could even power up their own organic radars.
>>525875121The clowns destroying our country® here don't seem Israeli, they seem more pro Islam and China tbf
>>525875584The wild white west of your daymares, yella boy
>>525871711It's this. They think because they watched a bunch of hype videos online that Russia and China are far ahead of the US but have just not been tested against them and that the US is too scared to engage with them. The flawless Venezuela mission dispelled that immediately and now they are just stuck making excuses like "it's impossible for them to kill all those elite cubans with no casualties!"
