i told you, Luigi walks free, what can you even charge him with here?>https://abcnews.go.com/US/luigi-mangione-latest-judge-orders-hearing-seizure-backpack/story?id=129129133Luigi Mangione latest: Judge orders hearing over seizure of backpackMangione is accused of gunning down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.A federal judge on Monday changed her mind and decided there should be a hearing to determine whether Luigi Mangione’s backpack was lawfully seized and searched during his arrest in Altoona, Pennsylvania.Judge Margaret Garnett said she considered "both the arguments made by counsel" during a hearing on Friday and "the seriousness of the charges the Defendant is facing" in deciding to hold the evidentiary hearing after previously saying a hearing was unnecessary.
>>525896174that dude looks like such a subhuman monkey
>>525896210
>>525896174Based he is a pasty anyway
>>525896330>t.
>>525896210lmao even boomer conservatives agree with luigi you moron. he probably has a higher approval rating than trump at this point.
>>525896174So what happens next if it was ruled illegal? Do they give him his backpack back and pretend they never saw anything in it or????????? Cant they arrest him again once they give him his backpack?
Total shitalian death
>>525896398he walks free
white priveledge, it's painfully obvious.
>>525896174She's just making sure that the entire trial is so it's easier to go for the death penalty, dumbass jailbird fag.
>>525896501This would never be allowed, even if a jury refused to convict him
>>525896174even if you believe the *official* story on how this guy was found and arrested (I don't), it reeks of a parallel investigation
>>525896607What’s the point of the jury then if they can’t even say “not guilty” anymore?
>>525896174Fact: Luigi Mangione has more balls than all of /pol/ combined.
>>525896771Good point, they aren't necessary anymore. The court should always rule guilty if an LLM trained on Soros interviews and Soros emails says they should be guilty.A brave new world.
>>525896174This is good news for the prosecution because now it's going to be harder to appeal and ask for a new trial
>>525896174The same people cheering over the white bitch getting shot will have a melt down over this.
>>525897064Nope. I'm indifferent.
The possibility of the death penalty seems to complicate this kind of high-profile trials considerably, almost as if the death penalty belonged to a past where forensics and investigations were so lacking that killing an innocent was a necessary evil.
>>525896884Especially “don’t mess with Texas” people or the “Don’t tread on me” crowd
>>525896210Turn your monitor on
he's gonna get so much pussy in his inbox if IF he gets out
>>525897318You don't matter.I'm talking about prominent Republicans. Not Israeli peasant slaves.
>>525897666Shalom rabbi, you're going to have a bad time in the future.
>>525896174The guy who did it doesn't have those crazy eyebrows.
why are you faggots ragebaiting so hard? Everyone knows he isnt walking free. You cannot spin it any other way.
>shoot a man in the face>get caught>slight technicality on how the murder weapon was found>'you're free to go sir'MOST. INTELLIGENT. SYSTEM!
>>525896607It happens more often than you think. O. J. walked right out the front door.
In the Luigi Mangione case, defense attorneys have highlighted several police actions and procedural lapses to argue that evidence was mishandled or obtained illegally:1. Intentional Bodycam DeactivationsThe "Private Talk" Shutdown: Corporal Joseph Detweiler admitted to intentionally turning off his camera for several minutes at the scene to allow officers to "talk" privately, asserting this was department protocol.The 11-Minute Transport Gap: Officer Christy Wasser turned her camera off during the 11-minute drive from the McDonald’s to the precinct while transporting Mangione’s backpack. She and another officer also swapped custody of a separate bag of evidence during a time not captured on camera. 2. Failure to Preserve the Crime SceneDiscarded Evidence: Officers were seen on footage throwing away Mangione's food wrappers and other trash from the McDonald's rather than preserving them. Detweiler later testified he "didn't even think of" keeping them as evidence.Evidence Transported in Fast Food Bags: Some of Mangione's belongings, including his laptop, were reportedly transported to the station in a brown paper McDonald's takeout bag rather than standard evidence containers. 3. Prejudicial Conduct and CommunicationsThe "Hoagie Text": A lieutenant sent Detweiler a sarcastic text before the arrest stating, "If you get the NYC shooter, I will buy you a hoagie." The defense uses this to argue officers knew Mangione’s identity immediately and were not just investigating a "suspicious person".Celebratory Reactions: Upon discovering the gun and silencer back at the station—after the unrecorded 11-minute drive—Officer Wasser was recorded laughing and saying "nice".
>>5258981644. Miranda and Warrant IrregularitiesQuestioning Before Rights: Officers allegedly questioned Mangione for nearly 20 minutes before informing him of his Miranda rights, even after he signaled he did not wish to speak.The Warrant Debate: Bodycam footage shows officers at the scene openly debating whether they needed a warrant. One officer stated they "probably" needed one, but another overrode them, claiming the arrest for a fake ID allowed an immediate search.Seizure of 10-Foot-Away Bag: The defense argues the backpack search was illegal because the bag was 10 feet away from Mangione at the time of his arrest and no longer "on his person".
>>525897742Brother. I'm not Israeli. I was referring to the fact you support a federal agent trained by the IDF who shot a American woman in the face. You admitted to being gleeful.I was calling you zog.Israel must love you.
>>525897666satan spotted on pol once againshalom>>525898051what if i just want him to go free because i empathize with his motive and believe that people who make millions off the suffering of others disguised as beneficial, necessary services are lawfully and objectively evil deserve to be shot?
>>525896174back pain can drive you crazy
>>525896174The most you could charge him with is kidnapping
>>525896174>what can you even charge him with here?with murder? what kind of retarded question is that?you can say that the CEO dipshit deserved it, and I probably wouldn't even disagree, but it is also very clear from a legal perspective what the sentence will be.
>>525896567He's a wop
>>525898270If you view me as Satan listen to me when I sayTrump is my best soldier.Israel is my greatest accomplishment.I love the murder and death!
>>525898093That's a good point. It's a situation where everyone knows he did it but there was a procedural violation. In OJ's case I guess the prosecution botched it, but it's precedent that the known guilty party can be freed.
>>525898164>>525898223And don't forget that his passport was found at the scene with his fingerprints, DNA, "special sauce" and the victim's blood.
>>525896174>>525896501Even if they can't use the backpack in the trial, that's not the only evidence they have. The whole reason he was arrested in the first place is that there was a surveillance camera that spotted the murder taking place, and another surveillance camera nearby showing Luigi without his mask a few minutes earlier, wearing the exact same clothes as the killer. There are plenty of people who have been convicted of murder over the years based on nothing more than a surveillance video like that.Of course, he could argue at the trial that the guy in those images wasn't him, but it would be up to the jury whether they believed that defense.
>>525896174They are going to let him off on a technicality because if they don't the jury will nullify and then it will be open season on CEOs.
>>525898164>McDetectives doing a McInvestigationi'm lovin it
>>525897443those people were always the most spineless of faggotsGolden rule: If you have to say it, you ain't it
>>525898051>throw away procedure rules>cops can now LARP as the NKVD and boot down the doors of anyone the state wants any time it wantsMen much whiter than you figured out CENTURIES ago that you have to tie the hands of state enforcers or they start becoming feral niggers
>>525896174I dont get it. So whats his defense? I did it but you have illegal proof?
>>525898243Still running the failed narrative.Pathetic. Your inability to adapt is your downfall you incompetent subhuman shill
>>525896174charge him for excessive eye browing
>>525896174Why does it take so fucking long for these cases to hash out? NEH.
>>525897468Popped me.
>>525896174LOOK OUT UNITED HEALTHCARE, A BASED CEO SLAY KING IS GONNA WALK FREE AND THERE AIN'T A DAYUM THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
>>525900329Seethe and cope germcuck. Our Based CEO Slayer is gonna walk free and you are going to cope.
>>525898820IIRC the other video of the shooter has him front-on with a mask and no eyebrows whatsoever. Then there's also the video with Luigi. It's also not clear why someone who was so meticulous about avoiding cameras during the crime would pull his mask down just a few minutes prior. Shit just doesn't track.
>>525896330Go back to your shithole slav
>>525896174Left wing terrorism is legal in the West. That's just the state of things in 2026
>>525899427Trying to get off on a technicality with a sympathetic judge. I won't be surprised if judge would try to frame it as a self defense against greedy murderous insurances
>>525896210he looks better than the average mutt
>>525896174God please, please make CEO hunting ex-middle class sport.
>>525896174if he walk free, then within a month he will have a car accident or something
>>525896210He's one of the greatest Americans of the 21st century. You're a seething kike. I hope the fate of the UHC CEO befalls you too.
>>525901395wow. you're right. And they caught Luigi using whatever tech they've got that the public don't know and used the senior Mcdonalds employee thing which was so suspicious.and the way they paraded him around with military, they would never let him go.
>>525901188Total Corpo Death is bipartisan and apolitical.
>>525896210Oh look, found a kike! How about you kill yourself, mossad? People are going to wake up and purge jews, so do yourself a favor and kill yourself.
>>525896210That dude killed a capitalist pig, womp womp.
>>525896210>Lupin the 3rd but in real lifebased.
>>525897468kek
>>525899427>I did it but you have illegal proof?If there isn't a good chain of custody for evidence then the evidence might not be actual evidence, it might be fraudulent, in which case it isn't evidence. For instance;>>525898164>Celebratory Reactions: Upon discovering the gun and silencer back at the station—after the unrecorded 11-minute drive—Officer Wasser was recorded laughing and saying "nice".This is the murder weapon. But they're saying the murder weapon was found after an unrecorded 11-minute drive where there were other discrepancies with how the evidence was handled. That means the murder weapon may have been planted by the officers, rather than it having been there from the start, and since it wasn't recorded, the officers don't have evidence to at least suggest they didn't plant it. No chain of custody.I hope I don't have to explain why the murder weapon potentially being planted is important to the outcome of the case.
>>525903655it could have been planted by anyone, nobody knows, because the chain of custody was broken.
>>525896884And especially you kike
>>525896210The amount of brown socialists seething at this post is incredible lmao
pols razor : If he really killed that guy, the gun in his backpack will match the murder weapon.If he's a patsy, it wont. Thus if you are trying to prevent the backpack as evidence, it likely contains the actual murder weapon.Oh im sorry. Pols razor is the concept by which the jewish people should be spending a lot more time giving thanks to the Americans who risked everything to save them. And yet... we do not see that happening. Instead we see our nation bought up by a group of refugees while many of our families were lead off course, and away from prosperity.
>>525898051That's because you only look at the one case. The rules all work in general and sacrificing the whole wouldn't bring back the guy
>>525896210>>>525896330 >>525896392 >>525897468 >>525901274 >>525901616 >>525901685 >>525902316 >>525902332 >>525903881>reddit niggers attempt at reverse psychology they are not sending their best
>>525903975why would anyone keep that gun anyway. did he take off his rucksack, put the gun in and then discarded of the rucksack? sounds plausible. isn't there a clause that says: beyond reasonably doubt? impossible under the circumstances. the glove don't fit, you honour.
>>525903975Occums razor is a logical fallacy, assuming reality is like a river that follows the path of the local minima for no reason at all
>>525896174He is going to walk free and become president
>>525896210He killed a tyrant is what he did! He was a great Italian assassin! And on this board Luigi Mangione is a hero! End of story!
>>525901115The whole case that the police have on him with the backpack hinges on the idea that someone who would monogram his bullets, leave behind pamphlets explaining his ideological motivation, and then multiple days later would be carrying the gun and an explicit manifesto on his person in public... would then plead not guilty in court when "caught".Nothing about the evidence they say was on his person at the time he was arrested makes any sense for a person to still have on them days later unless they are literally begging to be arrested. For someone with such a clear ideological motivation, he should have been singing like a bird the moment they put him in front of a camera like he's been waiting his whole life for this. But that doesn't line up with his actions at all.
>>525898093The difference is Luigi went after one of the major jewish institutions.
>>525904776occams razor is the ultimate normie midwit "nothing to see here" critical thought self-terminator
>>525897064True, it's not even real people, the people who opposed Luigi and support zogbots are literally glowie feds and glowie botfarms meant to combat the truth, astroturf sentiment, and create a false sense of consensus.
>>525896174Hope he walks.
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>>525896174I knew they couldnt stick any charges on this guy, we couldnt even see the face of the assassin that killed that guy its actually insane that we have a situation where a key person was killed and the perpetrator got away scott free.
>>525899427The strategy is “drag this out as long as possible so people forget there’s still an assassin on the loose”
>>525905125if i was a septuagenarian working a MACdonalds in bumfuck america and i saw this pic then saw luigi walk into my hamburger store? i'd call the fbi too. spitting image.
>>525896771A jury has to follow the rules of the judges and the law. They simply cannot ignore anything in the trial, the arguments and have gut feelings or use their own bias. They have to follow instructions and they are asked then during the selection process. You can't say "sure I will follow instructions" and then simply sit on a jury and ignore all that. What happens of course any fags that try that are singled out and they are reported to the judge and they are replaced as they have replacements who also sit in the trial and have access to all the info. In other words a person on a trial has to have a good reason they come to their decisions, bias isn't one of them and that goes either way whether it is to convict or not to.
>>525905223I’d recognize that pink skin and straight nose and light eyes and thin brow ANYWHERE
>>525896398It's a bungle in the process and they have to throw the whole thing out, called getting off on a technicality. Real evil people actually go and manufacture these kinds of procedural mistakes to get away with shit
>>525896567Comfy looking jumper
>>525905332Lol you're retarded
>>525905125I’m a dumb leaf but those don’t look like the same person to my weary eyes. Is Luigi claiming that it wasn’t him? That would be an interesting spin. I’ll need to start following this most curious case
>>525905223Maybe thought he was suspicious all masked up?
>>525896210Cope. He is going to have a line of bitches a mile long hoping to hop on his dick once he gets ruled not guilty.
>>525903975>pols>PolsYou're not blending in well.
>>525897468Top kek, LMAO.
>>525905596No it clearly wasn’t him but Luigi’s job (as patsy) is to say “it was meeee! I did it!! look at me!!”That way the assassin can get away clean to Israel, then DNA will exonerate the patsy, then they’ll say “case closed!” with the murder forever unsolved
>>525905504I have been on jury duty, you have to follow the court's instructions, the law, the judges instructions. You can't have any premeditated thoughts on a case, you can only act on what you heard and saw in the trial. At the end of the day the defence and prosecution lay out their case, their opinions on why they are innocent, why they are guilty. What you can't do is is "I like/hate that person tho, so that is why I will vote this way. The problem for Luigi is he has no alibi, he has no argument against the threats he made against the CEO and company. The motive is there, they even have his phone records and interwebs info. This isn't OJ and a bloody glove that the retarded prosecution ask for him to wear over a latex glove so it won't fit. You fags even think Tyler Robinson will be found not guilty - lolz.
>>525904937did he though?
>>525900329Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.
>>525896392even millennial conservatives support him. Shithead CEOs get the rope.
>>525896174Of course he will walk free but not for the reason you imply. The CEO in question was about to betray the shareholders so (((they))) killed him. Allowing the legal system to put Luigi behind the bars would risk him talking so it's either pressure them to let him walk free or kill him as well
>>525896174>what can you even charge him with here?He killed the CEO of a predatory health insurace megacorporation so he is eating the antisemitism charge no matter what.
>>525905332>>525906128Jury nullification won't even be needed here, the prosecution's going to get to trial with all their evidence thrown out and a very thin story for how the events occurred.
>>525906128I’m sure it’s different in bongistan, but in America you can’t go to prison just for saying you dislike a corporation. If they had the assassin in custody, they’d be able to link his DNA to the crime scene and the murder weapon, and thereby prove his guilt. But they don’t have him, instead they have some greasy wop whose job it is to cover for him.
>>525896884He snapped because he literally cannot perform sexually due to an injury. The nepo baby thinks he’s the voice of the people and daddy’s lawyer will save him.
>>525904277why did he go all the way to pennsylvania and not drop the gun in a trash can or a river? but the real shooter was in mexico by the time they picked up mangione
>>525896174He's cookedhttps://www.airdriecityview.com/health/judge-says-shell-hold-a-limited-hearing-on-seizure-of-luigi-mangiones-backpack-11726606>Mangione’s lawyers contend that searching the backpack before getting a warrant may have influenced how the affidavit was written, but prosecutors say no specific details about items, such as the notebook writings, were mentioned in the documentThe warrant never mentions anything in the notebook which means no fruit of the poisonous tree. Now he has a murder case with the gun, the written intent/pastafesto, the statements to cops he was in NY and attempts to evade capture by providing fake ID.
>>5258980511. The moral cost of the state wrongly imprisoning someone is generally regarded to be greater than the cost of a criminal going unpunished.2. Allowing police to use illegal evidence (evidence obtained by ignoring a person's rights) gives them incentive to always ignore peoples' rights. 3. These things force the prosecution to be rigorous, and the vigorous defense of the guilty is the only way to ensure the innocent also receive a high-quality defense. Adversity leads to strength.
>>525896771to give the illusion of justice>>525905332this is wrong. a jury can do whatever the fuck they want. (((judges))) hate this.
>>525906128>What you can't do is is "I like/hate that person tho, so that is why I will vote this wayno shit, retard. what you can do is say, well I just don't think the prosecution made it's case clear, so I'm voting this way.
>>525904238>mass replying schizoAre redditors in the room with us right now, anon?
>>525897468the joke doesn't work because anon needs his monitor to be on to even view this thread.
>>525896174>Has a gun in backpack >Gets taken>"But you took it from me the wrong way"
>>525901395This was all to conceal massive irregularities at the financial firm that Brian Ceo and Witty were in.Those have apparently been forgotten, so no one really cares about Luigi anymore.
>>525903655Wasn't the murder weapon supposed to be a homemade gun?
>>525898820The pictures show the shooter and luigi in different clothes.
>>525907492meh, my old secondary monitor occasionally glitches out for a sec. joke's funny either way.
>>525907169Juries are fact finders.You are told if you agree with facts 1 thru X and check those boxes then you find the defendant guilty. That's all they do they leave little wiggle room to argue anything in there it's either yes this fact was established or no. The defense which is always desperate in these cases tries to argue other shit like when I was a juror a lawyer claimed the ambulance driver was too slow so that's why the guy died it wasn't being stabbed repeatedly by his client ergo this should be assault not murder. It didn't work
>>525898093OJ's lawyer is the reason he won, Robert fucking Kardashian.
>>525907018This. A dispute of procedure by the defense doesn't mean it's actually going to result in innocence. It just means it needs to be looked into. Police have tons of discretion when stopping people. It's just a hard reality. But it's why we LiBeRaLs push for decriminalization of drugs and minor violations. So cops can't bust us for bullshit when we are behaving civilly otherwise.>>525907082Well said
>>525896174Free my nigga
>>525902332>luigi = lupinomg your right.
>>525896210Handsomer than you, bitch.
>>525907918>>525907921>>525908068luigimangioneinfo.comhis defense
>>525907570>Kills someone publicly and famously>Keeps murder weapon on him for three days>Keeps written confession on his person as wellPatsy.
>>525907417have you looked in the mirror today?
how do they know it was his backpack?
>>525897468Giggle
>here's the evidence he did it>"well ackchually you forgot to cross this T and dot this I so it doesn't count as evidence :^)"
>>525896392Wait, libtards agree with boomer conservatives?
>>525906278>i'll just assume everyone agrees with my love for political assassinationsNeat. When your time comes I hope the one who turns your lights off walks free too. Faggot.
>>525905757his dick doesn't work. That's literally why he killed the ceo
>>525896210fuck israel
>>525897468kek, btfo
>>525896174The first responding officer was smart, he made sure he was on recording saying "i know for a fact it's him" or something along those lines. So long as he has reasonable articulation as to why he "knew" it was him, all evidence is admissible because he was properly detained or under arrest right from the start. If he had not said that they wouldn't have had reason to search him.Two can play at the stupid subjective legal system game.
>>525909002is he into troons though ?
>>525908430WHAT ABOUT THE WOMAN WHO WAS STANDING 8 FEET AWAY FROM THE SHOOTING?I have never heard anything reported about her, or if anyone, even the News, was trying to find her.Pretty odd.
>>525908990it is called parallel construction
>>525901335I don’t understand this mentality. If you don’t like a product then don’t use it. For example, if you think McDonald’s makes garbage food rather than healthy food. You just don’t go there rather than trying to hunt the CEO of McDonald’s down. Same thing with medical insurance. If you think it’s all a racket, which it is, then you either don’t get it or you get a high deductible health plan where you only really need it for emergencies and you save up in a health savings account. if people stopped buying their defective product, in this case medical insurance, the industry would collapse on its own. If the argument is you need medical insurance for health then let me tell you with full confidence no hospital or doctor much less ann insurance company has ever made anybody healthy. You do that through your own actions like eating a good diet and getting plenty of sleep and exercise. You should only really need to go to a doctor if you break an arm or something like that.
>>525896174They're being really sloppy with this whole thing. Everyone knows he's not the shooter. Everyone supports the shooter.
>>525905332>jury analyzes the evidence and chose "not guilty">"uhmm...actually sweaty, you are wrong, go back in there and do it again"LMAO
>>525905332Look up jury nullification retard. You have no excuse for not knowing about it in this day and age.No matter how much the kikes seethe our justice system allows for the ultimate shutdown.
>>525910205Can a judge do that? The jury agrees on unanimous, not guilty and the judge reads it and throws it out?
>>525909120She was found and told to keep her mouth shut. It's the whole reason fixers exist
>>525903769I denounce the talmud, moshe. Luigi is /ourguy/
>>525898164>Evidence Transported in Fast Food Bags: Some of Mangione's belongings, including his laptop, were reportedly transported to the station in a brown paper McDonald's takeout bag rather than standard evidence containersfucking america man, got to love it, even evidence bags come from mcdonalds
>>525896210Fpbp, mutt
>>525906128"The evidence simply isn't compelling enough to remove all reasonable doubt"Which is true by the way.
>>525896884>Fact: Luigi Mangione has more balls than all of /pol/ combined.
>>525910480and it was a laptop a laptop. how big do they make the bags?!
>>525896174Luigi Mansion is based and don't even tell me he's not
New janitors are power thirsty faggots this month. The amount of dead and deleted posts is crazy especially when theyre talking about facts if the case
>>525909937fyi, health insurance is mandatory in germany. yes, the insurance jews can lobby such legislation into existence. and yes, uninsured migrants are exempt. your choices here are: ordinary (think nhs and arab or indian professionals) or private. only a certain class can afford private. that's upper level state servants and the rich, in case you're wondering. i agree, one should live in a way that prevents one from needing a doctor. god forbid you need an operation during something like covid. that'd be: get jabbed or stay away
>>525898093O.J.’s trial was a coordinated humiliation ritual against White Americans. The whole point was rubbing it in their face that blacks can kill them and get away with murder.This is different, the powers that be absolutely hate Luigi.
>>525911040In the US, I think it’s mandatory too, but you can get a high deductible health plan where you pay very minimal insurance premiums with the idea being is that you would only use it for extreme events and you can also get a portion of your premiums paid back to you in the form of a pass-through, which you can put into a health savings account. The idea of being is that you would focus more on personal health rather than the McScience practice by the medical cartel and that’ll be a way of collapsing demand and crushing the insurance industry.
>>525896330Kek
>>525905596It's the shotgun approach to reasonable doubt.
>>525911325actually not too bad a system were it not for the preposterous bills in the states. the swiss have a similar insurance system, that allows people to upgrade as they age and earn more. i've lived there for a bit and had insurance cheaper than here, with something like 2K to be paid by me before insurance takes over.