From the Sumerian to the current mutt empire, empires can never maintain racial homogeneity. Because of the very nature of their power empires have to keep absorbing newer subjects.
>>525912993Do you know the difference between an empire and a kingdom?
>>525913050I do. The UK is still an extension of the Anglo-Atlantic empire, so you share the same fate.
>>525912993The Roman Empire was a mediterranean racial ethnostate
>>525913212They had Arab and Balkan emperors.
>>525912993Literally. Greece is ground zero for the fall of western civ and look what happened. Mutted. Rome Mutted. Babylon was the definition of mutting and probably was majority white in the beginning of its time. and now we are in the era of late stage germanic civ and just like those before them, its getting mutted
>>525912993explain the chinese and sassanian empires then
>>525913285Arabs and Balkaners are one race
>>525913379>chineseThey weren't exactly an empire. Even today they act more like an ethno-state than an empire.>sassanian they got mutted too.
>>525913297Grim
>>525913409not really. But that's the point, Rome absorbed different races from all over the empire.
>>525913473you're right , but when you think about it an empire usually conquers other tribe and gets mutted itself in the process , either that or they have to accept foreign slaves because they are too rich to do the work themselves , somethings never change
>>525913409Nigger Sulla was complaining that he didn't see any Roman's in the crowd when he took the city. That was almost 100 years before the empire. Incidentally Sulla had red hair and blue eyes.
>>525912993not if the empire has interracial breeding grounds, imagine how powerful America would be if we had an "American" race
>>525913685All empires end up like this and end up losing their initial drive. The mongols got mutted and lost the thing that made them powerful.
Only because Caesar and Augustus removed the Republic and implemented Authoritarianism with the Emperor.So each Emperor wanted glory and to be remembered so they expanded all the time.
>>525913582The arabs and balkaners are a mediterranean race. The germanics in the Roman Empire were like today's gypsies in Eastern Europe. That is, they were completely isolated from the state as unassimilable savages
>>525913903Romans like today's Americans are very tolerant, this is what enables them to be powerful and expand. The Chinese on the other hand who are very xenophobic cannot ever be a world empire.
>>525913764>imagine how powerful America would be if we had an "American" raceWe had one, it was European whites.
>>525912993That's why empires are badYes I hate shitzil
>>525914171>empires are badEmpires are neither bad nor good, empires are what they are.
>>525912993Is this why you're getting replaced by Mizrahi
>>525914028There are a billion chinese, they don’t need anyone; if there were as few of them as europeans, they wouldn't be xenophobes
>>525914251This is true, in a sense Israel got mutted too.
>>525913903The only balkaners who are mediterranean are the greeks and maybe some albanians, the only arabs who are mediterranean are maybe a tiny minority of syrians and lebanese
>>525912993Well in theory you can if you just genocide everyone you conquer and just keep their country, but yeah, normally incorporation different peoples leads to mutting and that's what empires do.
>>525914274The Chinese and Europeans have different mentalities. The Europeans like the Arabs are civilization spreaders, the Chinese and Japanese on the other hand are insular.
bankers destroyed empires so they can easily leech on nations.
>>525914393>EuropeansMaybe with the exception of the Germans.
China will take over the world. Who will stop them? Indians? Hahahaha
>>525914370interesting thing is that may have been nazi germany idea of jjust killing people non-aryans in your future empire but that made the enemies just fight harder and often made empire maintenance harder
>>525913379Both were of course mutted, just look at south vs north chinks, or all those turk people around them.They just had the luck of being in the midst of asia so they only had other asians to mix with. Kinda like the HRE that was Germanic and mixed with other whites because there was nobody else.
>>525914460>China will take over the world.No. They just want to do business. The Chinese are not civ spreaders. They are not interested in sharing their culture or language with foreign people.
>>525912993come on fake jew, stop making us look bad. get off your VPN
>>525914570I'm not jewish Herschel.
>>525914393There are currently many migrants in South Korea and Japan
>>525913903>The arabs and balkaners are a mediterranean race.HahahahahaNo.>>525914028They weren't tolerant at all. But intolerance and even autistic racism won't save you from mixing: Look at the Spanish Empire, who had a really autistic racial classification system and still got mutted up.
>>525914230In my opinion they’re bad. Brazil basically functions like an empire inherited from Portugal and it’s losing the demographic that created and expanded it, white Catholics. How long do you think it can last before it falls apart? We don’t even like each other. At this point, it’s just random people who happen to speak the same language. I would much rather have a relatively small territory that is tightly unified on ethnic grounds than any kind of empire. We don’t need anything else. The empire itself was a mistake.
>>525914616But they will never be Japanese or Korean. But even a Somalian in the US is in some sense an American.
>>525912993Correct. Almost like you have to define your nation in explicitly racial terms if you don't want this to happen.
That's why you send your men out to dilute the blood of lesser people to raise them up to your level and keep your women at home to keep your own blood at a high level. And strictly no immigration to core regions. Everything moves outward or nothing moves at all. No slavery, as that is a guarantee for large-scale muttiny.
>>525914485>that may have been nazi germany idea of jjust killing people non-aryans in your future empireNah it wasn't at all. We wanted to kill slavs because Hitler realized we couldn't incorporate them and they would always be foreign objects in the Reich organism.All pure Europeans were considered Aryans so that was no problem, since there were no plans of conquering asia, africa or other non-European continents.
>>525914625>They weren't tolerant at allI disagree. They shared language and religion with the natives. They had children with them. That's tolerance.>>525914644Spain is the greatest mutter of all time.
>>525913379Slave rape baby mutts and more mutts.
>In historical counterfactual analysis, World War II—as it occurred between 1939 and 1945—likely would not have happened if the Roman Empire had never collapsed. The specific political and social conditions that led to the conflict were direct results of the Roman Empire's fragmentation into separate European nation-statesIS AI WRONG?
>>525914625>A balkan migrant living in germany
>>525914542See that's the thing, their strategy works just that well that you don't even see the slow methodical take over.
>>525914754That's what the Brits tried. Didn't work either.
>>525914715But then you cannot be a world power. That will always come to clash with expansion. Nazi Germany will always fail at some point because of this paradox.
>>525914815No. China can never replace the US. People won't speak Chinese nor absorb their culture. We are all Americans in a sense. But China can never do that.
>>525914393Didn't japan had an expansionist empire tho
>>525914838>what is LebensraumAlso if you think racially defined states can never last then you are in trouble anon
>>525914966>>525914838See my point here, so did Nazi Germany. But they always fail because of the inherent flaw in them.
>>525914773>They shared language and religion with the natives.They forced their language and religion on the natives. This results in great social cohesion but a lot of mixing, kinda like America: If the nigger speaks your language, worships your gods and is culturally the same as you, you'll have no problem with mixing.Tolerance would be like modern Germany where everyone can do his thing and common laws are very few. As you can see, this doesn't work either, in fact it works a lot worse than an intolerant system (eg. France, they put a really high emphasis on everyone celebrating the revolution, speaking French, kids being taken away early to get indoctrinated etc.).
>>525914993True. Israel cannot exist without its empire sugar daddy the US. Israel is not an organic country.
>>525912993>american oppinioninto the trash it goes. Besides USA is garbage and has nothing to do with europe. Your ideas are trash, you wrong about everything, you are stupid, you are idiot, you are fat troll and you don't deserve any freedom whatsoever and never did. Also why do you keep asking questions from fat trolls who do nothing but be a fat lard like you, who says you deserved to have a single fucking oppinion? Religious trash are scum, usa russia and china are idiot wouldbe 'empires' that nobody want to fucking join. All empires are trash without exception. And we going to see what happens to usa economy when nobody want to buy anything american in the future.Mongrel trash like you who want cheap labor so you can fuck over your own citizens, and any ideas that spawned from the shithole that is usa, or shitrael, or shitaudiarabia is pretty much dead on arrival.
>>525915044My point exactly. All empire follow the same blueprint.
>>525914838You can be a world power without expansion. It's called soft power.The Nazis just took what they thought they needed for security - bad luck being in the center of Europe. They took the channel islands but not Britain for example, no interest.
>>525915201The Greeks were also the same. The Greeks were very xenophobic so no empire of theirs lasted beyond a few decades.
>>525915112>Israel is not an organic country.May as well join Hamas then anon because Palestine is and it's not going anywhere
>>525915291I'm an Israeli and I hate moozlems and arapes. But it doesn't mean that I can't see what my country for what it is.
>>525915040how retarded are you to call tiny nazi germany an 'empire' it's one of smallest countries in the world also was back then. It's like where are the 5 billion you owe me for wasting my time with your stupid shit? And where is your mandatory 10 year community service picking up garbage for ever opening your mouth?Yet again the shitmerican mongrel bastard will sit and make excuses and come up with desperate false justification for endless mass immigration and ethnic demographic warfare. And yet again the deranged ameritrash fails miserably yet claims success. Americans will never stop lying till someone silences their stupid cockroach ass that they call a mouth. So now it is hated by all including everyone in europe, which is about fucking time everyone realized how asshole and idiots americans are. 10 years of american echochamber internet is what did it. They couldn't have fucked up more and i LOVE IT. Since they rely on a facade of not being total fucking idiots and assholes.
>>525915289The Greeks didn't even like each other lol. Then again, there was Alexander, and he did indeed propagate racemixing with Asians (Persians, Scythians etc.).Basically you can choose between purity and empire building. That's the problem with empires.
>>525915437Alexander was an outlier in Greek history. He wasn't even a classical Greek but a provincial.
>>525915379>see what my country for what it isSo can the rest of the world anon I'm afraid
>>525915613Let's not forget that Israel was an Anglo project from the get go.
muttification had a habit of beginning 2 to 3 generations after kill on sight orders for a certain people were lifted. interesting reads on what typically led to these things being lifted, lots of guardianships
>>525915379Are you Russian or something? I don’t think you have any idea how bad things are in the Western hemisphere. Israel is clearly the country of the Jews, while we can’t even say what our country is anymore. We can’t say who can or can’t be a citizen, or even what a citizen is supposed to look like. We have nothing. If we were at war with Hispanics or Africans again, all our minorities would be protesting and saying this isn’t what our country is supposed to do, even though we expanded massively at everyone else’s expense. Basically, we don’t have a history anymore.
>>525915435why are all antifas such fucking spergs lmao
>>525912993They don't have to absorb anyone, the mongols didn't, but in an plutocratic society it's obviously in the interests of the elite to do so. Heterogeneity is more a result of the economic system than of imperialism.
>>525915799I'm Druze.
>>525915876>the mongols didn'tThey absorbed everybody. They became moozlem and Christian, they spoke Persian and Turkish. They had Armenian vazirs and Syrian cock-lads.
>>525915679I know. The elite of this country has been corrupted for a long time.>>525915889Golan heights?
>>525915437humans are retarded apes that must have no rights and freedom of any kind. that is literally what is necessary to get moronic subhumans like you to behave. You can forget all this freedom crap and shove it back up your stupid ass.Entire country of USA is dedicated to promoting that every ethnic group from much larger countries should just flood into smaller ones in endless amounts. As if these idiots don't have enough to begin with. Get rid of religious fundamentalist trash, any rights for rich people and corporations. And then have a total tyrranical book of rules where humans have no rights and legislation to the effect that you can't trust a human with a single fucking thing whatsoever! Then you'll have it fine.But ofcourse really it's mostly just americans, immigrants and rich people, and then a little bit of russia and china. That's the clowns causing problems, and religious fundamentalists. Just get rid of any annoying religion that causes problem, such as both islam and judaism, and there you go. Then that's sorted. Rich people, take away their shit and give to everyone else, there you go. Companies, don't get to decide a fucking thing if they act maliscious.Immigrants, you have no rights to do anything. I can't find people on earth YOU CAN TRUST LESS than an immigrant. Except maybe a rich person, especially as proven in USA, canada, and several other countries. There's really absolutely nothing to discuss, you just subhuman trash who sould have never been allowed to incarnate at human that need to be yanked out of your body and tortured a little bit, so you have a bit more discipline the next time you come here, or you can come back as a cockroach a billion times till you learn your lesson.Ameritrash and ameritrash internet is nothing but subhuman cockroaches spreading their cancerious stupidity and moronic idea 99% of which ofcourse deserve death penalty just for how obnoxious and stupid all their sayings and doings are. Trash souls.
>>525915976No, Galile.
>>525915972Mongolia isn't mutted at all
>>525912993It only happens when jews are inside and get special rights
>>525916094Their empire was. Mongolia of today is irrelevant to the argument.
>>525916015>"why are you a sperg">spams absolutely deranged walltextnot beating the allegations anon
>>525916149The same exact process would occur with or without jews.
>>525916218Sure. >we dindu nothingYou are like niggers for me and a lot of European you are third worlders.
>>525912993Jews destroyed the Roman Empire and are now destroying the US Empirethe problem has and always will be the Jewish plague that refuses to go away
>>525916302I'm not Jewish Gaspard.
>>525915291Sneed
>>525916149There wasn’t a single shul in the Iberian empires until around 1850. Jews had all been expelled, and converts were monitored by the Inquisition. You can see how badly those empires failed. They didn’t create anything of real value
>>525916029Stop being a cuck anon. Bring it back
>>525915437>>525915437And literally>muh purity spiralbs that you cockroaches been running with for 10 years. You such little subhuman clowns you can only come up with like 2-3 feverish little meme trolls, the other is muh birthratesmuh purity spiral muh fake races of white and black and brown, muh what is what my what is this, muh x is not huwhite, etc. It's criminal everytime you breathe oxygen, criminal everytime you speak, criminal everytime you have a thought in your stupid head. Nothing good or useful or interesting comes out of anything in case you didn't notice but the same gaslighting bullshit and the same excuses and lies for the same stupid mass immigration shit you cockroaches constantly promote.Eventually we'll just get rid of this entire fucking planet it's useless and not impressive and can be built in 2 seconds anyways. All the lifeforms are retarded especially humans all the bodies are trash. And especially subhuman clowns like you. Then you'll have nothing to fight about you'll just sit as a spectactor whilst you get tortured a bit as you deserve. You fucking stupid trash souls, who told you this nonsense that you have free will free speech or freedom to do and say as you please. YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM OF ANY KIND, you come out of the whore mother vagina and then you become american and go make this shit up, and proceeds to fuck up everything, as if it MATTERS what humans fucking decide or think, haha. you retard.Why you think it matters what you think, what your oppinion is and what you fucking want or feel you are entitled to. YOU FILTHY COCKROACH maybe you can start by not being a subhuman self serving bastard. A fucking cow deserve more freedom than you. And unlike you not so annoying that you want to shoot it in the face. Your life doesn't matter either, surely if you can butcher billions of cows so overbred bastard cockroach ethnics can eat it all the time. Surely human life should matter even less, especially when it's annoying as u.
>>525916486No. Our allies were always the bongs. I want to bring back the days when we both slaughtered frogs and arape christcucks.
>>525916610>Im not a jewlol even lying you do it bad
Pol 90% of the time to gentiles:HES A JEW, A SECRET OPERATIVE, TRYING TO RUIN EVERYTHING! Pol when an Israeli posts:Brother! Excellent post much luv! Good to be on solid terms!Perhaps we can be united after all?
>>525916503Wtf is your problem
>>525916654Jews make up only about 70 percent of Israel’s population. There are also many Arabs, Christians, Circassians and other ethnic groups
>>525916878>nafri education is nafri
>>525913379Chinese are mutts. 'Han' Chinese are the result of 5,000 years of rape and war.
>>525918353All people are to some degree or another mutts