COLLAPSING ANY DAY NOWWW
why can't the west have competent leaders
>>525968072>>525968117>financially illiterate retards dont understand that china is product dumping
>>525968072XI is the last hope of the white race, come home white man
>>525968169Dumping at a loss and still earning 1.2tn in surplus after all the value added expenditures of importing the raw materials to make the merchandise?Sorry, but this is clean fucking profits no matter how you cope with it.
>>525968262>he doesn’t know what product dumping meansembarrassing, really
>>525968338It means selling below the price of manufacturing or heavily subsidized by the state, which might be long term harmful for a smaller economy, but not when the price naturally is suppressed via massive economy of scale and abundance in cheap energy. And usually, you don't get a trade surplus by dumping because selling something below the price of the imported materials and the energy and labor costs would give you a trade deficit. China enjoying a surplus means that what they do is anything but dumping, but just exporting deflation.
>>525968501>he still doesnt know what it means and just doubles down on being retardedi hope you wear a helmet daily
>>525968582You are an idiot coper if you think that China getting a trillion plus trade surplus means that they are losing lmao
>>525968501That gives you a loss, not a trade deficit. 1.2 trillion doesn’t mean there was any profit, it just means they sold that many more dollars worth of crap to is than we sold to them.
>>525968072For what though? Build more roads?
>>525968777Us* phone posting degeneracy Anyway,I know you come from a financially illiterate country so this is expected. That’s why your homeownership rate is non existent and your entire country is millennial poverty simulator. Waiting for it to dip below 40% next stat update, Kek.
>>525968777>Country imports materials, costs 10B in total>Labour and Energy costs another 10B>Import costs aka trade deficit of 20B>Uses 20B worth of materials and labor to make stuff and sells stuff to the West and earns 1200B in total1200B of profits, minus 20B of expendituresWhere is the loss here?
>>525968501>trade surplus>selling below the priceHans, you are retarded.They made 1.2 trillion money that they can use to by material or property around the world. After all their population demands and production costs were met. Means their foreign assets or precious metal reserves are going to grow 1.2 trillion per year. It also means that somebody got additional 1.2 trillion debt and will be forced to sell their assets to China.
>>525968072>still taking trillions of USDso they will keep the petrodollar going for the US?
>>525968501Firt off: taiwan number one. Taiwan is the real china.A surplus does not export deflation. That is not English at all. It exports currency which deflates the Yuan.If they're dumping then it means they're at risk
>>525969225Ukraine number 1. Ukraine is the real Slav guardian.A surplus does not mean they profited. It means they sold more than they bought
>>525969225I wasn't the one who started that selling below the price talking point. The mutt started claiming China got the surplus by dumping, which would be dumping goods below the price of it's manufacture, which in itself is a cope and a conjecture which might not even be true.I just said that even if China truly dumped, they made no loss at all since 1.2tn in surplus proves that whatever they did, they got more money out of it in the end.
>>525969369Chinese go to Germany to become homosexuals in disgrace to their ancestors
>muh surplusnow post net profit
>>525969047The other anon is right you actually are an idiot.
>y-you see, a surplus is actually not good at all because reasons and only having a giant fucking deficit and GDP to debt ratio is good!>When I sell my lemonade and make more money out of it than I spent on my purchases, I am actually losing!Listen to yourself
>>525969271It doesn't affect yuan because the yuan price is not market decided.They keep their domestic market and yuan separated from their external affairs.Prices inside China are actually even cheaper because of that.
>>525969774>sarcasm
Chinese century
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>>525969876At this point I think Zeihan is a chink well-poisoner. No one here actually cares about what he says.
>>525968117>why can't the west have competent leadersimpossible under neoliberal capitalism
>>525968072US has largely eliminated its trade deficit already. Wait and see what happens by summer. Screen cap this.
>>525968262>Dumping at a loss and still earning 1.2tn in surplusI have a feeling that this "dumping at loss" thing is a lie.
Yeah but are they Jewish slaves living in a dystopian kleptocracy? Heh. Didn't think so
>>525970107A company and/or entire country can dump it's products at a loss while the country exports more than it imports.
>>525969876
>>525970277I know I just doubt that's the reason. This dumping at loss thing is most likely a coping lie by western govts. They're making money on everything.
>>525968072last time i checked the chinese stock market index it was going to moon how is this doomsday
>>525968072How was this possible without importing millions of niggers and jeets or the deregulation of finance capitalism? I was told this was impossible to achieve without cheap brown labor and untouchable rich kikes.
>>525968117Start electing philosophers instead of demagogues.
We all know it takes two more weeks.
>>525970350It's not complicated; lower demand= lower prices. The financial knowledge displayed by euro flags on this board is starting to veer from amusing to worrisome.
>>525968169>>525968338>>525968582>China is product dumping to get this 1.2 trillion surplusI'm only going to ask this once, and any answer other than "Sure, here you go" will be ignored and taken as an admission of defeat. It will be a very simple question that you should be able to respond to without dismissive snark or asshurt. Ready? Okay, here goes:Do you have evidence for this claim?
>>525970408you got fooled nigga jeets arent high iq whites are average iq for a jeet is 60s whites are 80s its called DEI and they import them because they need the stock market to moon via pooja
>>525970509>lower demand= lower pricesnope, it's the other way around when we talk about chi-nah since mass production brings prices down in china unlike in US version of capitalism.
>>525970598Okay.
>>525970408>How was this possible without importing millions of niggers and jeetsthe chink willing to work more than 12 hours without complain unlike white.
So the tariffs worked as intended?
>>525971007idk chinks supposedly work less hours and have more holidays than burgers.
>>525971282western propaganda about China is completely retardedthey always cherry pick something that is not the normal and say that its all of chinaits like saying the all of the US is Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia.Or all of the US live in poverty like in WV.Or all of the US is Texas which is 60% spics.like nobody in china keeps dogs or cats as pets and everyone in china is okay with eating dogs and cats.like china doesn't have animal rights groups. when they do.you get the point
>>525968072came here just for this, top fucking kek.picrel: you lost, trannies. i assure you that third-world shithole is going to "take greenland" and miga. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc
how will ameripoors cope? by trooning out and then overdosing on fent?
>>525971577you know what is not "normal" in muttmerica? your literacy rate of just 79%, on par with some of the poorest african nations, pindia, etc. in fact, 54% of adults read below the sixth-grade level. 1 out of 5 yanks believes the sun revolves around the earth, and can't even locate jewsa on a map.daily reminder that in 2026, 1 out of 8 yanks is a nigger, 6 out of 10 are non-white, 8 out of 10 are overweight/obese and don't even have a foreskin.
>>525968072Ching chong, we chinese communists prove that communism works, just ignore the fact that half of our economy is built off the backs of capitalists economies.
>>525971848>communismtry state capitalism
>>525970598>US version of capitalism.jewsa is a mafia-run kleptocracy, essentially a clown car with guns. it's (((kike-style))) "capitalism", aka rent seeking. it's unreal how much mutts pay for everything. ffs, just look at healthcare, the most expensive on earth by a huge margin, but patient outcomes are dead last. their system is so horrendous, that medical mistakes are the third leading cause of death, behind heart disease and cancer. the sector employs 1 out of 8 mutts and comprises 21% of gdp.so when you hear an ameripoor banging on about MuH iNcOme/EcOnOmy, remember that paying $100 jewbux for a single paracetamol tablet in hospital, or $80k for spending in the night is included in that figure.these fucking grotesque thirdies really need to lower their tone on here.
>>525971848There's no communism in chi-nah anon. It's just governed by communist party while the actual system is socialism with market economy.
>>525971577You seem mad lmao
>>525971848>the fact that half of our economy is built off the backs of capitalists economies.that makes zero sense
>>525970549I'm not sure how they are going to argue that making money is a bad thing. I guess it's only good if it's America making money. But China showed they are far more economically resilient compared to the consumer economy of the US where we are getting raped by inflation and weakening purchase power of the USD and it's only going to get worse. Just look at the interest we pay a year on debt, it's nearly 1T.I don't think China will completely break off from the US market because they lose that political leverage and they like making money.
>>525972034He ain't wrong tho.
yanks could easily defeat chyyyyy-nah. just find a way to replace xi with drumpf, and i guarantee you the place will turn to shite overnight.this is what happens when you elect an orange game show host and spiritual nigger as president. ffs, bankrupt six times, 50-year mortgages, 15-year car loans, etc. he even admits to raping women, and claimed they loved "MuH DiCk".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G71vflJo48cdrumpf's the superlative failson, who inherited $550 million jewbux in today’s money and still managed to fuck everything up. miga is a cult, and its victims are some of the most brainwashed faggots in the universe.
>>525971577mutt please, the orange cheeto was moaning the other day about 300k mutts dying each year from drugs. that was during one of his insane rants/threats, iirc it was about bombing mexico.this is every single city in your country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4gD7GAdM-U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vc6CHRrtH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRWmKh13b50the “greatest“ city in muttland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGrNsWk5PbAin muttmerica, mc donald's employees will shoot you for complaining about your order: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDVfAtsLXAQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnXS-BZm_4wyou'll be stabbed 14 times for "only" tipping $2 jewbux for a pizza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFulpkl26m8or shot for littering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg9KNTzLsO0crime is so endemic, entire stores need to be behind lock and key: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnFwDj64fNIfuck me. if that's not a third-world fucking country, i don't know what is. this is south african-tier stupidity. show me a single video of any that happening in china, europe, etc. that's not "cherry picking", it's all commonplace in the states.
>>525972034you seem to not know what mad is
>>525968072It's not bad bad news but not totally good. The surplus is a coping mechanism .First, a big surplus tells us domestic consumption is down (which is true). They are producing more than they absorb, which reflects how capital is moving to industry. Liquidity is being soaked up and the government has fewer economic policy levers. The surplus helps, but it's also a symptom of what's going on. They've been trying to grow domestic consumption for a long time and it seems they are just getting stuck in more reliance on trade surplus which leaves them on a treadmill where they just have to export then export more to keep going. So what's bad? Well retaliation is very easy, such as through tariffs. Another problem with the trade surplus is they get a flood of overseas money, mostly USD, from exports. but the dollars cant't really enter the economy. Exporters are required to exchange them to the central bank, which has to print RMB and stash the dollars as reserves.Holding mountains of USD exposes the country to dollar swings. Offloading that money will of course act against the export focus you rely on to survive
>>525972875>First, a big surplus tells us domestic consumption is down (which is true).If everybody has a washingmachine to the point where they no longer need that many washing machines, ad the price goes down+bing dumped on foreigners, that's actually a good thing, and improved quality of life.Same thing with TVs, etc.
>>525972875>not bad but not totally goodthat pretty much sums up china as a whole
>>525973033He's wrong, it's a good thing, for many reasons.If the appliance you buy last so many years that the capitalist can't sell you a 2nd appliance, that's 90000% a good thing.
>>525968117You know why
>>525973178The irony here is that he is speaking correctly and you, being an inferior speaker of English are misunderstanding this as some kind of error.
>>525973014Cheap washing machines are good. Needing foreigners to buy them to survive because your own people won't isn’t.Falling prices from higher productivity = win.Falling prices from weak domestic demand and dumping surplus = warning light.Warehouses full =/= people better off.Retaliation = very easyOnce again, China speed runs a mistake Japan made, but even worse.
>>525968072>US raises tariffs but still have to buy shit>on the other hand the government can now pay national debt with the money being raised so no run on the currency>everything costs a bit more. Dollar doesn't depreciate, local industry doesn't grow (high costs). OTOH stable, mostly maintains current activities.Doesn't seem too bad.
>>525972875This, debt is better than making stuff
>>525973460>your own people won't buy isn’t good!!!!!You're wong. See>>525973135>Needing foreigners to buy them to survive2 things.1. You can find other things to do if nobody on the planet wants your gadget.2. Needing foreigners to buy isn't a bad thing. Mutts can threaten to loot the cargo, but this will just create new jobs to kill the Mutts.Retaliations on your retaliations can create jobs.>tariff?Mutts lowered their tariffs after experimenting with them. Nothingburger.>b-b-but the ban on chinese cars still existDoesn't matter. If we end up with a world where Africa has more advanced cars and tools than Mutts, then so be it.
>>525968582>refuses to explain and continues to cope and seethe in amerimutt 40 trillion debt
>>525969047The trade deficit doesn't count labour or state subsidizes.
>>525973973We did not lower tariffs, each time the baseline tariffs increased. You fell for it again.>China number wonLol cope cope cope
Chuds and wumaos don't understand what trade surplus means.
>>525974097That's fine. China is okay with amerimutts getting taxed to hell by its own government.
Why didn't these Chinese and Russian bot threads on /pol/ help them keep Syria, Iran, and Venezuela as allies or complete their invasion of Taiwan?I thought they were supposed to be demoralizing and read by millions!
>>525974174>Chinese and Russian bot threadstake your meds, i mean fent, muttbro
>>525974174>Chinese and Russian bot threads
>>525968072Why are still running slave factories that make plastic shit for burgers in the first place? In exchange of what, dollars and US bonds? Doesn't seem to be worth it.
>>525973973You're a fucking idiot. Even Marx completely dabs over your ideas that overproduction and exporting surplus is just a game breaking bug that let's you win forever.The ironic thing is the PRC planning committees would laugh you out the room if you told them your harebrained ideas
>>525968072That's the funny thing, the U.S. hasn't breathed a word about 2025's bottomline. I haven't heard anything about fourth quarter numbers, and usually that's the first thing the stuff in your face to assure you that the economy is just fine. We're ficked.
>>525968072It's all part of Trump's grand plan keep trusting the plan.
>>525968169many such cases
>>525968201Ok chang. Winner the poo. If you call xi Winnie the Pooh he will put you in the chair while your fellow Chang's reeducate you
>>525974156That's the point chinkslop didnt' get more expensive either.
>>525968072No link to article? Lazy shill.
>>525969593their debt/GDP ratio is lower than ours. keep coping.
