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Are you peasants ready to become kings? We get to upgrade our silver to gold, timing is everything
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>>525968176
Explain this to me like im retarded (I am)
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>>525968176
Explain this to me like i would try to run over an ICE officer (im retarded)
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>>525970023
its called the 50/80 rule. its about how many ounces of silver it takes to trade for 1 oz of gold. Gold and silver are similar but what determines their value is slightly different. Gold performs better when the markets are down. right now the markets are doing really good. the industrial demand for silver is tightening the ratio, large companies are buying silver in bulk as they are afraid of a shortage because silver is mostly mined as a by product of mining other minerals, once more silver mines are built the demand will go down.

tldr; follow graph, trade silver for gold when ratio is low, then trade gold for silver when ratio is high
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>>525970331
>50/80
It's going to at least 5:1.
Wait more for bigger gains.
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>>525970372
i was gonna trade in some at 40:1.
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>>525968176
>trade silver for gold
no
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>>525971285
okay
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>>525968176
historical ratio was lower than 15:1.
it's going even lower, likely 5:1 eventually.
suck it.
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>>525971588
it's going to 1:2 too.
screenshot this for your descendants.
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>>525971588
So that means I trade my stak for a smaller stak; and then what?
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>>525971588
>>525971644
Checked
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Hi I’m a retarded girl
When you talk about buying gold/silver are you referring to stocks or physical gold/silver? I have loads of silver jewellery that I don’t want and some gold. Is it worth anything? Good time to sell? Or do I hold on to it all?
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>>525971796
Women are dumb and don't want to think got themselves so let me help you.

Your currency is being printed into oblivion, infinitely. Your silver is a limited resource. The limited resource is what you can use as a measure of value while the infinite resource has no certainty is measuring because it is always changing is unit value as more currency is printed.

Would you really want to trade your silver jewelry in for cash that is losing value? Or would you like to have true price discovery and then purchase something of tangible value?
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>>525971922
That’s what I thought but I wasn’t sure and I knew you geniuses would have the answer. Thanks anon
>Poors have fiat
>Rich have physical assets
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>>525971999
MAM do not redeem the silver
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>>525971796
>Women & jeets are dumb and don't want to think got themselves so let me help you.
Money Printer go brrr
infinite monopoly money chasing finite number of Ag atoms in the universe.
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>>525972099
So does silver have a tangible value? I know gold has many practical applications that make its value somewhat make sense alongside the rarity I just didn’t know if silver was being artificially inflated somehow as it doesn’t seem in short supply?
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>>525972244
unironically Ag has more industrial applications then Au. Also for some reason the AI needs a shit ton of it but that's not for goycattle to know.
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>>525971693
you trade the smaller stack for an even bigger stack than you had before, when the ratio widens
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I can feel my butthole clench in excitement now that we are nearing 100 an ounce.
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>>525972443
Oh I seeeeee. So similar to all the incoming water shortages. I should have guessed it was somehow AI related, my curiosity has been piqued
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>>525972443
Could this be the answer anon
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Im switching at under or exactly 1:10, before that its not the right timing.
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>>525970023
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>>525972741
You probably have an insignificant amount of silver. You need to be holding >10k ounces for this to be meaningful.
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>>525971922
youre not getting your dick wet ranjeesh
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>>525968176
they'll all sit on their stacks refusing to do anything with them because they believe it must go to the moon and will be valued at at least a grand by the end of the year.
people always have timing issues and sit through the peak because they have no clear strategy they decided upon in advance, so greed and fear take the wheel.
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>>525968176
https://www.macrotrends.net/1441/gold-to-silver-ratio

I think the ratio could go much lower than 50/1 Probably won't stay there too long but long enough to punish TD for being jeeted.
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>>525979947
yup, you are right on the many fritz. which is why i made the thread, hopefully some anons will make the play, in the long run you get more silver. you dont have to hit the peak. even if you trade in ~50 silver ounce for 1 gold oz, in 3-5 years you're getting ~30 free silver ounces
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>>525980172
yea, my target is 40:1. will probably see 50:1 today since silver broke 90 usd
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>>525980172
It might. It might also not.
I'd rather take the safe profits I have right now, than to speculate on even bigger profits that might never materialize (and lose the profits I already had).
This hike is driven by a mix of industrial use and people trying to scalp the industry to drive the price up even further, but that also means there'll be a hard breaking point. The moment the price becomes too high for companies to justify using it anymore, they'll drop silver for alternatives. The alternatives might be worse than silver, but they are still functional, and companies need to stay profitable. And then you get a massive fucking value dump in a short amount of time.

I'd always advise people to have an actual gameplan when they invest. As in, how long do they want to invest it for? What is the amount of loss they'll sit through and hope for it to recover, what is the amount at which they'll cut their losses? At which point do they take at least part of their profits and shift it into more stable investments like bonds or fixed deposits?
And one of the most important questions to answer the others really, what do they even want the money for, how much will they need to reach that goal, and in which time frame do they want to reach it?

Not having any clear goals usually fucks you over because it means you make your decisions based on emotions (sitting through the peak because of euphoria, selling during a temporary dip because of fear and so on).
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>>525980561
All of those require you to have any relevant amount of course.
If you have 500 bucks worth of silver coins, just do whatever makes you happy. Neither a total loss nor a x10 will change anything about your life anyway.
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>>525972699
Why do you care about the ratio when silver is in a global structural shortage?
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>>525980295
Trading silver for gold right now is the dumbest move you could do. China export banned silver 14 days ago and they refine 70 percent of global silver meaning GLOBAL SILVER SHORTAGE IMMINENTLY

Why you would trade silver in such a market is beyond my comprehension.
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>>525970023
Pretty weird Luigi literally means plumber in Italian
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>>525981043
because when the market correction happens, you're going to want to be holding gold and then when the ratio is high like 80:1. you trade the gold for more silver.
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Historical is 16:1 but new production is as low as 3:1 and total above ground is like 7:1. I plan on converting around 20:1 just to get out of shenanigans.

Some newfags don't realize that Silver to Gold was always the stacker plan. The only reason we chose silver was because it had a larger upside. Once that's corrected it's gold all the way.
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>>525981220
But again, why do i cares about ratios? I care about supply chains and access to physical.
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>>525981561
are you a fucking retard? i already explained it. gtfo of my thread nigger
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>>525981625
All i see is circular reasoning about trust the ratio.
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>>525981161
U lie
Or were lied to

>>525981135
Now I'm afraid to do anything. I'm a stacklet but got a bunch of grandpa's coins. How much can u count on getting for .9 fine? There's a few with numismatic value but they mostly all got fucked by those booklets
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>>525971644
I don't always check them, but when I do
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>>525968176
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDVFinfJBUk
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>>525981722
just look into, you can sit on your silver for all i care but you should trust the stackers around you. the gold silver ratio will widen
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>>525977814
Thats 00.0001% of stackers world wide
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>>525977814
If you're a millionaire you should just diversify. You should only gamble with what you can afford to lose. ( but I don't think investing is bad because it's like a casino where the odds are stacked in the player's favor )
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>>525968176
i invested like 500 in silver and its not at about 2k
but to me its still worth 500 because thats what i lost
i am not greedy so i will hold
but still i am a bit annoyed that its gotten so expensive beacuse i want to buy more but i am poor
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>>525971922
And people have the temerity to say women refuse to fuck you because you’re all smelly assholes…
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>>525982432
well you can accumulate wealth if you use this ratio properly. in the long run you will be getting more silver/gold. stacking is the long game by trading your silver for gold, you are locking in your gains on silver. eventually, the gold to silver ratio will widen, cant say when but eventually it will. it will be when market bubbles burst and corrections are made.
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>>525982789
if i sell all my silve rnow i will jus tget so few gold, i want at least one 1 oz 999 gold coin, i dont like those those tiny bars and buying a diluted gold coin is against my values and morals
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>>525983025
yea i still think its early for sure, im waiting till 40:1 and i'll trade in a litter silver for gold, and if it goes down to 30:1, then i will trade in more silver, etc as to average it out and in 3-5 years the ratio will be wider and then trade the gold back for more silver, and then repeat the process. over decades
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>>525982789
15 to 1 is target
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>>525982090
Again WHY DOES THE RATIO MATTER?
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>>525983194
really think so? that would be wild. i hope your right
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>>525983236
because you can multiply your silver/gold just by trading using the ratio.
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>>525983236
like i really cant explain it any better man.
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>>525983294
But silver is in shortage and is rocketing up and gold is stalled out.
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>>525979947
They'll never sell because they believe silver is the only real currency and everything else is fugazi, they'll sit on their stack waiting for some movie-esqe apocalypse where we're all wearing rags and trade only in silver for some reason. They all also seem to share some weird fantasy about having a harem of brainwashed underage virgins who will all flock to them when le big collapse happens.
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>>525983341
If nobody can explain in simple terms why the ratio matters then it doesnt matter.
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>>525983389
yea for now
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>>525983402
Is that how Slovaks really think about the world? This kind of apocalyptic scenario doesn’t exist in the mind of Canadians as far as i can tell.
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There is no actual gold or silver stock

This is spam. Made up spam. Ban the spammers please
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>>525983402
In the Slovak worldview what is the end of world scenario? And is it something your professors talk about?
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>>525983495
I'm telling you the impression I got from silver stackers when reading their explanation for why they're holding silver
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>>525983685
You’re talking to Americans who have strange end time religious prophesies. None of that exists in Canada. Since you brought it up i assumed that end times prophesies were a big thing in Slovakia.

The mistake lots of people make is thinking we’re all in the same country.
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>>525971644
This rings true. Silver has real industrial use, critical in all electronics and unique antimicrobial properties. The mining ratio of 1 oz gold to 8 oz silver would be normal if silver was just money, but it is far, far more useful. Trade some silver for for gold at 1:4, but hang into 25% at least.
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>>525983806
>None of that exists in Canada.
Many things no longer exist in Canada it seems.
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>>525971922
You're gonna make it, anon. Nice summary.
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>>525983806
Slavs don't have the same 'hoard food and silver and hide in a bunker' doomprepper mentality that some Americans have, although there's still some good amount of fear mongering and doom posting on social media about the collapse and the new world order, but not to the point that people are stacking massive amounts of precious metals, buying food reserves and making bunkers. We just expect things to become shitty
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>>525983414
my guess is it has something to do with the price relative to what it was when you bought in

i think it is false to assume that gold and silver are directly coupled but i would have to do some analysis to find that out which i am too crippled by depression for
anyways
you would have to track the value over time and measure it against eachother
silver could rise faster in value than gold, or it could happen the other way around so blindly following some exchange ratio seems to be not precise in order to determine the value of the exchange made since the prices are traded in $ value as a intermediary exchange currency through which both material values as a commodity are linked
but then again i am just a depressed wagie and probably wrong anyways
felt good to type this tho
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>>525983806
>None of that exists in Canada
lol
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>>525970331
Takes like ten years for a new mine to start producing and we have a five year deficit in silver so the ratio will go much lower
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>>525984425
yea, i will just slowly trade my silver to gold as the ratio lowers and it will just average everything out. dont want to wait for the peak, play it safe
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No. I am holding on to my silver.

Faggot.
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Yes, you should trade your silver, but get hard american dollars for it because the dollar/gold ratio is really down right now. After inevitable gold crash (happening soon tm) buy up gold again. While the M2 Monetary amount rises and investors are still burned from the gold crash. Shit happens every 10-15 years
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>>525985358
>M2
Yes you should definitely trust the US government on this. They always report accurately and don't ever fuck around with numbers. I make all my financial decisions based on the M2, I used to use M1 but...
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i am too stupid to know what to invest in
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>>525985358
> yes goy, trade in your overpriced silver for that reliable paper and ink
Kek
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>>525971999
Holy fucking based. The one time a woman listened bless you sweetypie. I'll post some more for you.

This book along with mises' human action is the Bible is understanding money and how it works. You need to have a mind that can also understand allegories and also create them for yourselves, you need to have the ability to spot patterns and also be able to understand many abstract concepts or to abstract an idea yourself from what you read and then apply it to something else.

For example in cantillons book, he talks about new mines ruining a nation through increased money supply, but we live in the modern world so you need to understand that it's the banks that create currency and apply that logic to the banks to see that currency inflation is ruinous and in the way that cantillon describes.

The best thing about learning about money is that it's all verifiable by yourself just by using math and logic. You literally don't need evidence if you can think.
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>>525984359
I’ve never heard people talking about end times prophesies in Canada.
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>>525985777
weapons, gas, oil, minerals + physical metals is my portfolio. trump will deliver. hes making things happen, opportunities for everyone.
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>>525985777
It's not really investing per se, but assets protection as well. Right now silver is being undervalued and has been since the 2000s due to an uptick in its use for industry as well as people hoarding it. The question is, what will the new price "correction" be? I've placed a "bet" and simultaneously assets protection I'm satisfied if the price is crashed into the 70s. Even if it's lower it's still not a big loss because I could afford the "investment" so to speak.

So it's not really an investment, it's also you using it as a way to protect your money, because rare metals are rare compared to fiat paper that is endlessly being printed and devalued. Just like anything there's risks involved, don't do anything stupid.
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>>525986662
i dont really want to have to buy and then take care of actual physical silver/gold
maybe ill put it in some mining stocks or something
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>>525970331
The joke here is that nothing is going good and they are lying about everything. Gold was made a tier one asset by central banks not too long ago (for a reason) and thats when things started to pop off. Rats are fleeing the ship and they dont want retail knowing. We are seeing a last ditch resource grabs from all the big players.
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>>525985566
>>525985840
your president is literally right now prosecuting the fed chief because he is hesitant to make the money printer go brrrrrr, and you retards still act that it is running like during covid. Gold and silver price right now is a bet on who will fault first, trump or the fed. And the FED always wins.
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>>525986764
>>>525986662 #
>i dont really want to have to buy and then take care of actual physical silver/gold
Do you think you need to feed it or what
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>>525986764
>Futures contracts
Those are volatile as fuck, and unlike an order of physical stock, there's a clause built into them, saying they can settle with you out of court the worth of the stock/contract you bought.

You would be buying a glorified IOU note if you did that. If you can't afford silver, or can't take care of it, buy a shitcoin like monero and chainlink.
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>>525986924
Trump is intentionally devaluing the dollar to bring industry back to America. The dollar will stay strong,and gold and silver will be worth more.
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>>525986993
He's probably afraid of it getting stolen, or rusting due to poor storage conditions.
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>>525986993
if its in my house it could get stolen or burn down in a fire or some shit
>>525987051
> If you can't afford silver, or can't take care of it, buy a shitcoin like monero and chainlink.
aight maybe monero im not gonna be a link baggie
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>>525970447
I think there is less silver above ground than gold. With industrial demand in mind, that seems like your might be pulling the trigger a bit early.
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>>525987248
true, but i can average it out over time, trade a bit at 40, 30, etc. play it by ear.
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>>525971693
>GSR = gold-silver ratio
>all ratios are approximate, your mileage may vary
>historically around 1 oz gold = 15 oz silver
>currently at 1:50
>was 1:100 a few years ago
>when GSR reaches 1:30, trade 20% of your silver for gold
>you can adjust those numbers based on your level of confidence and scrying ability
>when GSR reaches 1:20, trade most of your silver for gold
>when GSR goes back above 1:50, trade gold for silver
>rinse
>repeat
>internet
>?
>profit!
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>>525970178
>Explain this to me like i would try to run over an ICE officer (im retarded)
picrel traders watching the price of metals increase parabolically
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>>525971644
this and checked

Gold is useless and just sits in banking jew vaults, Silver is a critical resource on top of being money, and we're running out as a consequence to the banking jews suppressing the value for over 100 years.

All the fundamentals are there for silver to eventually overtake gold in the ratio.
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>>525987412
Sounds like a reasonable thing to do under normal circumstances. However nothing is normal this time around, we are in uncharted waters and technology in the future could simply be unaffordable to the average individual due to silver scarcity from the technocrats scaling up their technologies. If they do not falter in their schemes, silver could very well over take gold in value. If they fail, then I will exchange silver for gold. This is speculation, but short term speculation as this coming energy crisis will show us whether or not it makes or breaks these AI data centers.
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>>525987526
> current mining ratio 1oz gold to 8 oz silver extracted. Some say 7oz.
> industry consumes 60% of that silver
> production unscalable, no mines, extract processing only
> new tech uses more and more silver.
1:4 is the new ratio, maybe 1:2.
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The fiat printing thieves want you to return your stacked silver back into the game before it finds its true value, anons! They're going to tell you to trade in at this dollar price or that dollar price, but price is irrelevant. They're already here, advising you to sell silver for gold at 50:1, and that's retarded! They'll tell you the natural ratio in the earth is 17:1, and that's correct, but we don't mine our silver at that ratio, we mine at 8:1, and then we consume it! Silver is used up, destroyed, dispersed and not recycled! It is more useful and valuable than gold in the electronics age.
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>>525987857
true, cant deny the sudden surge of demand in silver for high tech gadgets. its even used in missiles and those fancy energy weapons
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>>525988706
Ultimately, like you said. We really need to play things by ear, so don't set your plans in stone. We are gonna make it, my leafy friend.
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>>525987881
retard, silver also is a byproduct of many, many other materials that are mined, lead and zink account for 30% of all silver production. Coppermines more than 25%, Goldmines just 15%. Pure Silvermines provide also almost 30%.


And the industry demand for silver is even declining for 2025/2026. The industrial demand fell by 2% last year due to weak economy and the producers finding ways to use less silver to reduce costs.
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>>525989689
Is that why Samsung C&T provided $7 million in upfront financing to restart the La Parrilla Silver Mine Complex just to secured the right to purchase 100% of the lead-silver and zinc concentrates produced at the mine for two years?
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>>525989689 >>525990083
Emergency overnight repos have been spiking lately in close correlation to the recent spike in metals.

Many banks are turning to the "lender of last resort" for some unknown reason....
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>>525990523
You know its bad when the U.S. Mint has suspended sales of silver numismatic products.
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>>525990762
>You know its bad when the U.S. Mint has suspended sales of silver numismatic products.

I wonder if this thread has the same germanbro from yesterday. His 10pbtid of sneed convinced me to grab another 10oz while it's still in stock
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>>525991057
Everything is sold out can only buy golb
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>525991190
GoldenStateMint has tons of stock.
I hate them always being so high over-spot but I love them for their elegant designs.
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>>525991057
I got my stack before spot + premium passed 35/oz and now I have been priced out, so I am sitting comfy. Just looking at that order gives me a heart attack. Fucking 1k for 10 ounces. The Federal Reserve Note is crashing hard as fuck and I never been happier about my own suffering.
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>>525990083
This isn’t unusual or “mysterious” at all. What Samsung C&T did here is classic offtake financing.

For a large trading and industrial group, $7 million is a very small upfront cost to restart a mine and secure predictable access to lead-silver-zinc concentrates for two years. It reduces supply chain risk and price uncertainty.

It does show that silver (even as a byproduct) is strategically important to industry, but it doesn’t automatically imply an imminent physical silver shortage. This kind of deal happens regularly in the base metals space.

>>525990523
Correlation isn’t causation here. Repo activity can increase simply because liquidity conditions tighten or collateral preferences change.

Metals and repos may move together because they’re both reacting to broader financial stress, not because banks are secretly running to the “lender of last resort” due to metals markets.

Elevated repo usage points to fragility and caution, not automatically to systemic failure.
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>>525981561
>But again, why do i cares about ratios? I care about supply chains and access to physical.
because eventually the supply chains will fix themselves and silver will stop going up and the price will stabilize. the point of the ratio is to trade your silver for gold when it's favorable, then at some point the ratio will reverse and it will be favorable to trade your gold back for silver and you will have accumulated more metals than if you had not played the ratio
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Shoot for <45?

"In 1792, Congress under President
George Washington fixed the U.S. gold-to-silver ratio at 15 to 1. The ratio for the
entire world came close to historical norms in 1980, briefly touching 16 to 1. In
2011, the ratio was 38 to 1 and dropped to 30 to 1."
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>>525991385
Yeah price sucks but my dollar-cost average is ~18-22$ so doesn't hurt too much.

Years back I remember one desperate shill hit 100pbtid and I bought a gadsen bar in his honor
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>>525970178
lol
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>>525991414
>reddit spacing + talking points
>ignoring the nuance of reality and current events so they can pretend to not understand the issue
>'German'
Dont you have a Marxist terror attack on your infrastructure to clean up after? Tell your handlers to let it happen again so I do not have to look at you.
>>525991578
Thats based as fuck, good on you. I bet that fat silver bar is fun to hold.
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>Elevated repo usage points to fragility and caution, not automatically to systemic failure. >>525991414
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>hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>525988284
>
Reality is this...

Unless you are a large, Institutional user / purchaser, most of the Silver / Gold spot numbers don't apply at retail.

At 16/1 I think all the "low-hanging-fruit" is already GONE...

What would be the aggregate Mining industry ratio's?

My guess is somewhere around 30/1?
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>>525991944
>I bet that fat silver bar is fun to hold.
Heavier than you expect, it gets you to start measuring your silver stack in pounds instead of ounces.
Too thick to ring or make any sound really, only thing that stands out is it's always really cold from the the high thermal conductivity.



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