I didn't know anything even happens out there. Why does Trump want (or pretend to want) it? Natural resources, or strategic military position? Is it a media distraction, or an easy geopolitical trinket to take since no one actually cares about Greenland?
Orwell's 1984
it is psychologically important
>>525970224Means psyop? Or he doesn't want to say the real reason and he knows people are happy to think he's an idiot.
>>525970163Its free real estate
>>525970419of course, it is all 5d chess because trump is a super genius. maga!
>>525970163It's easy and obvious. It's a major trade route. And country with a sizable navy could put a naval base there and force project. China would love to have a Western Hemisphere base.
>>525970163It's vanity, there is no strategy
>>525970163It's about K/D/R
>>525970163>Why does Trump want it?The fragile narcissist wants to be remembered and to enrich his multi-billionaire family and his greedy dozen of dick-sucking simps.
Trump is saber-rattling to make Europe think twice before fighting wars simultaneously on two fronts.
>>525970163greenland isn't even green though. someone needs to tell Trump it's false advertisement
>>525970163Leftists should be arguing that Greenland should be sovereign rather than owned by Denmark. Denmark colonized Greenland and therefore it is STOLEN LAND. This is a test to see if leftists respect imperialism. They do.
>>525970163Trump is about marketing and aesthetics. There's no need to have greenland as a part of the usa. The island is already open to investments from american big oil.
>>525970163At least $300 billion in recoverable mineral resources, most of which being rare earths and uranium.Strategic military position for USA military radars, ports, air and space bases. Also strategically located in North America which gives the USA massive new fishing rights zones and EEZ. Fertile ground/ice for scientific research. Cool factor/manifest destiny pull. China has been actively buying out Europe, Africa, Asia, Canada, and the USA everywhere and already controls 90% of rare earths, and if it developed Greenland's rare earths it will literally control about 99% of future supply, which will literally cripple all technology development including military technology in the west. Europe and Denmark haven't done shit with it since the 1941 USA treaty and 1946 Truman and Bynes ultimatum. As such, the USA has every right to pressure Europe and Denmark (including with sanctions and treaty obligations) until Denmark sells the USA Greenland for a good deal ($100+ billion cash, stimulus check as part of buyout, dual citizenship offer for greenlanders including danish ones, investment funds and more jobs, better trade deals for Denmark only, USA committment to develop the critical resources and sell them to Europe after stepping on the greenlandic governments regulatory toes etc).
>>525970717I really loathe how his aides can't be assed to do a quick google search and explain to him that there is quite literally nothing he can't do on that island except spoil elections.
>>525970717Everyone laughed when he said he was a stable genius. But its been him against the world for ten years now. I'm starting to believe.
>>525971064We aren't returning the island to Norway, I'm sorry. They should have just re joined the union if they wanted Iceland and Greenland
>>525971388You and Europe let 50k snow niggers stop you from developing possibly the 2nd largest reserves of rare earth elements in the world and one of the largest uranium reserves (technically green energy) in the world. And then when you do let investment in, you let China in. Everyone said the same about Alaska (which isn't all ice) but which likewise became worth more than $10 trillion dollars in mineral resources and critically strategic location for all air trade.
>>525971252>Cool factor/manifest destiny pull.This is the only correct answer to why he wants it. Everything else is complete horse shit, as can be gleamed from his actions rather than his words.
it's forcing europe to band together without US support so they have things in order to battle Russia while they focus on the Pacific.
>>525970163Greenland is Trump's maskirovka. The day of the rake is coming
>>525971064They can legally leave if they want, problem is 80% of their state budget is gibs from Denmark, so they can't afford it until more ice melts so they can become rare earths arctic saudi arabia.
>>525970163A fun bit of history is Erik the Red, who discovered Greenland, named it so to tricj the residents of Iceland to come help him settle the huge iceberg when in fact Iceland has more habitable land.
>>525971558Did you miss the Possibly 2nd largest reserves in the world of rare earths (critical to tech), and possibly the largest uranium reserves. That alone should've made Europe say fuck you to the snow niggers. Instead you want to enslave yourself to China like you did with Russian oil and gas for 30 years.
>>525971497No. The A5 agreements are signed by Russia the US, Denmark and Canada. It doesn't really have anything to do with "Europeans" or the Inuit.Even then, they don't prevent development. It's just so meaninglessly expensive to do any development up there that most mining companies that start on the island have to close the mines before they even open up for more than a geological survey.>And then when you do let investment in, you let China inWe don't actually, we pretty explicitly kick them out and block them from investing.>Everyone said the same about AlaskaThe two are nowhere near the same, there is barely any glaciers in Alaska, the fact that you try to compare them just shows you have no clue what you're talking about.But if you really do think that there is just a near infinite profit to be made on the island, and you can literally just apply for a permit to extract the minerals. Why doesn't the US develop anything on the island?
>>525971753are you dense, who needs that much uranium. we have the most at the moment and have barely scratched the surface and unfortunately we are allied with you traitorous cunts
>>525971497Why are you lying like a jew?
>>525971753No, and neither did the US for the past 100 years. And yet, somehow, they never decided to develop it.Strange, don't you think? Almost like there might be a reason to not do that.
Fucking Google has forced it's AI to stop creating this Greenland flag and is now forcing danmark shit flag every time.I am Pissed!Looking forward to it becoming a US flag, this flag becoming the Greenland's state flag, and google getting their shit kicked in for treason.
>>525971712What actually happened was the Viking early medieval warm period was up to 1-1.5C warmer in the northern hemisphere than today, grapes were growing in England c1000-1100 AD. Scandis were prospering, and Greenland was able to be inhabited with a European lifestyle, as was Vinland and Nova Scotia, and Iceland was 25-40% forested. The tree line in the Urals, Scandinavian mountains, western USA mountains, and China and Tibet was 100-150m higher than it is today. This is because the little ice age onset hard c1300s-1400s and caused mass migrations and human die offs as this period was about 1C colder than today (which is already 1C colder than the Viking warm age). Native pueblan indians in what is now Arizona froze to death and fled the mountains for what is now Mexico and native athabaskan speakers (not pueblans who instead speak uto-aztecan) moved in to the SW USA from the plains and father north to avoid dying from cold and starvation. Greenlandic Viking died off or completely assimilated into inuit lifestyle (very different), and Icelanders almost died out themselves but survived by chopping down thousands of years of forest growth. Since c1750 AD, we have entered the modern warm period (has fuckall to do with carbon, it's the fucking Sun), so greenland is going up in price again.
>>525971252Only correct answer itt.I'd like to add securing rare earth metals would make china less likely to start ww3 if the usa has access to these resources and china's monopolyis weakened. Venezuela and Greenland entering our sphere helps prevent ww3 by controlling access to their resources.
>>525971807The USA has the most nuclear reactors in the world, more energy is never a bad thing. Additionally, there are all of the other benefits I mentioned, and most of all the USA has been asserting its right to Greenland since the WW2 treaty, and Europe has done nothing with it. In which time the USA transformed Alaska from a backwater into a global transport hub and resource powerhouse. >>525971803>>525971808Denmark has executive control (sovereignty) over Greenland, not Greenlanders, and you've squandered it for the entire time you've had legal executive control over it (300+ years). You don't even develop it for European settlement and instead prioritize snow niggers. The USA has been telling you for literally 80 years now to develop the resources, and if you wouldn't sell it to us, you signed the treaties allowing us military privileges. The future of civil nations will actually hinge on resources, especially rare earths, it's also part of why Russia invaded the most resources rich area of ukraine and we warned you idiots about it for months (because the previous admin literally shit the bed in ukraine and the EU and NATO were crossing russian red lines, putin invaded 8 months after meeting biden the same guy who shit the bed under obama).
>>525970224>>525970419A glimpse of the truth:Trump is a huge narcissist and he wants to be known as the president who made America ~25% bigger. There is already at least one military base there so it's not like lack of ownership stops him from securing the Arctic.
>>525971677>until more ice melts so they can become rare earths arctic saudi arabia.Might be sooner than we expect.
>>525972189Niggerfaggot, it's not profitable to develop the island. You have just as much access to the island as we do, yet you also decided that it was better to pull out of the island.You haven't said shit about the island since you got access to it for perpetuity in the 50s, because only the demented mind of Trump could be confused about the fact that he has access to everything he wants on the island currently.
>>525972260The Danes, Europeans, and greenlanders resist every meaningful lawful attempt for at scale resource development, and the military treaties are limited. Worse yet, the Russians and Chinks have been let to have a say over Greenland, Chinks do their investment colonialism (look at Africa to see how that goes) and Russian subs transit Canadian arctic waters and along Greenland as well for intel ops on the US-CAN early warning radar systems and also for general intel and assertion of dominance. Almost every single American disapproved of the US purchase of Alaska in contemporary times, look how fast that changed.
>>525970163Apparently there's a lot of uranium, oil, tungsten and iron that will become available there when the permafrost melts in the next 20 years.
>>525970163
>>525970163we heated up the planet enough that Arctic shipping is viable now (or will be in the near future, because no one's doing shit to stop global warming) so Greenland's on what will be a major shipping lane.But then again the US already has Alaska...
>>525972460No we do not have access, you've literally no fucking joke let the 50k something snow niggers directly restrict resource development at scale (the way resources are supposed to be developed and profitable). The USA got military access in 1946 because if Denmark did not agree to at least that under the auspice of the original 1941 treaty, Truman was pissed off. Military pull outs since the end of the cold war are moot now as the world is heating up for conflict again and you actively let the west's most powerful enemies into your back door. Denmark and Europe also do not have the resources to develop those resources at scale like the US has. Even with the US developing the Utah reserves and Australia partnering with US with their reserves, China will still control at least 60% of global reserves and more if counting specific RE's. And on top of the other combined benefits to the US if it has executive control over resources there, is that the US can develop ports (future NW passage), full rights over military bases, and rights over the largely wasted EEZ. The US, owning Greenland, can invest more overnight than Europe has ever invested in it since WW2.
>>525972484>The Danes, Europeans, and greenlanders resist every meaningful lawful attempt for at scale resource developmentWe really don't. Unless it's by the Chinese, in which case we do>and the military treaties are limitedWhat's the limit? The only thing it says that you can't is interfere in our elections>the Russians and Chinks have been let to have a say over GreenlandExcept they haven't, but who cares about reality I suppose>Chinks do their investment colonialismNo their belts and roads initiative was blocked back in 2018, it's a big reason that the Inuit were unhappy with us all the way until your president decided to gibsmedat the island
>>525970163It's for jewsRon Louder and Thiel told him to do it
>>525972770anon dont bother. miga cultists dont have internal logic, morals, or ideas. they will parrot whatever makes their dear leader look good
>>525972770Denmark (the chief executive power of and over Greenland), has actively let the "autonomous" Greenlander government enact strict controls over direct at scale resource development in Greenland. Denmark also lets the Greenlanders have one of the strictest house building codes in the developed world, which is so ridiculous that it actually stymies investment. There has also been zero development of the EEZ. The USA will assert its right to pressure Denmark and Europe into a deal over Greenland, even through sanctions. Trump has proven in Venezuela that he is not a push over. Putin has proven in ukraine that he is also not a push over. China, don't get me started they are actually significantly worse than what you can imagine and literally set up a hive slavery society. Europe and the Anglo-sphere outside of the USA are all anti-free speech and anti-deportation (demographic suicide).
>>525972763>and you actively let the west's most powerful enemies into your back doorWhy do you schizophrenic mongs keep saying this like it means anything? We haven't. You're fucking delusional. Where are you even getting the idea from?>Denmark and Europe also do not have the resources to develop those resources at scale like the US hasEvidently you don't since you haven't done jack shit. And no, you haven't been blocked from anything. The Greenlanders has had the doors open for mining corporations since 2009, and before then it was the Danes who hosted the talks.>China will still control at least 60% of global reserves and more if counting specific RE'sThen how about you start developing the mines then instead of this bullshit?>the US can develop portsYou can already do that, but choose not to, due to the expense of it and how little benefit it gives>full rights over military basesYou already have that as well, but again. You simply choose not to do anything with it.>The US, owning Greenland, can invest more overnight than Europe has ever invested in it since WW2You can already do that, but you choose not to. I'm sensing a pattern, maybe all this talk about squandering the island is some form for projection from the American collective psyche
>>525973019The brutal truth is that if you sleep at the wheel of power while your enemies grow in power, there will be an extremely brutal future war and you and your people will lose and be subject to wholesale genocide and lifestyle replacement. Europe hasn't even taken the initiative to meet defense goals and actively sleeps with China in trade and investment, and slept with Russia for 30 years with energy. You are disqualified from the big decisions on your own.
>>525973130keep it going with the delulu miga cultist headcannon
>>525973075You Europoors have lived a sheltered existence for the last 80 years. There are none alive who remember the horror of total war between world powers. There has not been 1 single day on this Earth since c1900 where there wasn't a genocide or war was happening, but most of these were between tiny insignificant powers like your flag. Russia has conservatively around 2,500 deployed or deployable nuclear weapons (about the same as the US), enough to kill about 150 million Europeans overnight. And the British and French want to cross more red lines while Putin is still alive and put troops in ukraine. Lol, lmao.
>>525973222Non-refutation. The only logical path to peace and stability is through reassertion of USA dominance in its spheres and strategic positioning against other great powers (literally only China and Russia, the only real economic competitor being China, but Russia remains a nuclear and resource global power).
>>525973233It's exactly the same for you anon, you too live an extremely sheltered existence and have no one left who remembers the horrors of total war.Why do you pretend to be any different when we have the same exact conditions
>>525973056>Europe and the Anglo-sphere outside of the USA are all anti-free speech and anti-deportation (demographic suicide)Like everything else you say, you can't seem to fathom that every single European country isn't the same. So you end up being systematically wrong.We're not anti deportation, we have been using the same system that Trump has just employed to incentivize migrants to leave, as well as fought the UN and EU to be able to deport criminals or just immigrants in general
>>525973346do another one!
>>525973379The USA has never not been at war in some degree since WW2. War powers were expanded so much and war organizations received so much power that it is as great a task to reign them in as it is to reassert global dominance. The US MIC, even civilian side (American gun owners), is so unconceivably massive that most people cannot comprehend it (550,000 JDAMs, 10,000 DDG missiles on deployment at any one time, between 1,200-2,000+ MIRV warheads on constant deployment at any time, compartmentalized units that are so independent that they are almost rogues etc). The USA has been defending Europe militarily and been in fact, the dominant military power in Europe (outside of Russia's sphere) since WW2. Even now it is still the dominant power in western Europe. France and the UK lost their empires because of US admins in the 60s (also the same admins that pushed the civil rights BS and MK Ultra and psyops). The very best deal for you is to sell Greenland to the US under good terms and let the US pull the rug out from the greenlander and develop the resources. Trump talked to people last week and got $200 billion in investments just to lower the price of housing loans in the US by 0.6%.
