Internet restrictions due to children is a big deal.

How far do we go?
Is it far enough?
Too far?

We can't pretend that wild west internet of today is equal to wild west internet of yesteryear, either way.

Where do we draw our lines?

2000's: gay and retarded
2020's: gay and retarded but in 4K

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Stopped reading there.

>>525971108
Like he didn't masturbate to tubgirl

Yo, on dial-up internet in the late 90s there would be beastiality mixed with the normal big booba porn pics.

>>525971108
All videos were extremely bad in quality, yes. But what should actually be addressed is that it was much easier to find that bad quality gore. It is not common these days nor is the extreme and rampant shuttling and profanity l. You could go on any forum in the world before 2011 and you would find aggressive arguing with slurs that were "nigger", "faggot", "cocksucker", "retard" and so on. And nine times out of ten mods did not give a shit and would also be in on throwing slurs too.

>>525971108
smart children? no problem.
dumb kids? yeah should keep them off the internet.
they weren't online in the past. that's the difference. we made it too easy for any absolute braindead moron to get online even when they know absolutely nothing about anything more advanced than mud.

>answer these ai administered pSAT level questions to access the global internet outside the colorful shopping box your'e in.
aww you failed. sorry jimmy. no internet for you.

>>525971108
If I had Valerica Steele's BBC porn when I was growing up I would have realized I was a trans girl so much sooner, how is he framing this as a bad thing

>>525971108
>this is a redditfags opinion
KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT

>>525971108
I fail to see how graphical/resolution fidelity factors into it; anyone would know what is happening. doesn’t mean it’s good or acceptable, but splitting hairs over the resolution seems stupid. if I have kids ever, I’m asking my uncle how he was able to raise 4 (including 2 girls) to be able to safely parse internet access without crashing out and getting the FOMO factor. He’s a project manager at Microsoft so I assume he was internal systems to prevent them from accessing the bad parts of the internet without feeling like they need to rebel too harshly

>>525971867
>they weren't online in the past. that's the difference. we made it too easy for any absolute braindead moron to get online
Fucking this. The necessity to own and be able to operate an actual computer, as well as the attention span necessary to boot it up and sit at a desk engaging for extended periods of time was an excellent filter. Not only did it keep out retarded kids but also retarded boomers as well. Now anyone from a toddler to a decrepit dementia patient can jab their fingers at a toy they keep in their pocket any time they're bored. Everyone would have been better off if the internet accessible from desktop browser and smartphone had been kept completely separate.

>Why are they suddenly pushing digital ID now?

For the chilling effect on free speech.

They'll get their foot in the door by telling you its just to stop kids from accessing porn, after all you don't want kids watching porn right. Then once you're settled in to that they will turn up the heat (boil the frog slowly). They start banning gore from kids, fine right, then they expand to misinformation and hate speech, but adults can still access it so you don't revolt.

Then they expand their definition of misinformation and hate speech and 4chan is long restricted at this point, but adults are still here, but hold on, where is all the edgy content, why are most talking like normalfags, well that'll be the chilling effect, the ai digital panopticon. You never know when you're being watched and it's all so firmly in your name that you can't even deny it was you that posted 'fuck these clowns in government', so you don't post it, you just don't say that. 4chans not the only place. That's just the start.

Then they tie into a social credit score. Starting small they'll lower points for anyone who accesses the worst material, shit nobody in their right mind is into. Then they boil the frog slowly. They lower the score if you speak misinformation or hate speech, then they expand the definition of that to include any conspiracies at all really, or any criticisms you have about the government. But we're not done.

Then they lower your score if you even access any information they decide is misinformation or hate speech. By then you're on ubi because a robot took your job so if you search out information on conspiracies they will use the cbdc programmable money to block your access to meat (high carbon meat, a treat for good boys) and force you on to the bugs. If you spend too much time on misinformation (according to them) the value of your dollars (only yours) will drop, the magic of programmable money, and now you're priced out of an apartment and eating your bugs in a pod.

>>525971108
Who the fuck is Valerica Steele? I know Sasha Grey, Belladonna, Gianna Micheals, Adeline Lafouine, Bonnie Rotten. But who’s Valerica?

>>525971318
high res difference is very intriguing to op zoom frfr ongd
>>525971250
>Internet restrictions due to
glows (that includes any type of extremist representative on the internet attempting to indoctrinate) inflitrate (got payed and tasked for it new articles from 2008 to 2010 exist on internet) mmos due to gamers and chat rooms having potential of being state security issue (wronthink labeled as organizing bad thangs)
extremist in form of nazis/jihadists/religious cults/anarchists were low key until late 2000s tailored for genuine subset of npc imbeciles as honeypots
since 2010s glows ramped up all types of extremism messaging
from corona scam and current - all extremists ideologies are semi-mainstream everywhere on internets

and now poor them have to protect the children

every single extremist glow or indoctrinated npc will claim censorship is happening because every npc is "waking up" to further solidify their messaging

overall it is over for internet quite soon since npcs have bee trained well to use their electronics
e.g. placing copies of their personal info (drivers license/sensitive documents) on their idiot phones as if that is not a retarded thing to do (it is very secure, smartphones, do not forget it retard, smartphone very magical omg frfr)

>>525971108
The internet does not even exist anymore.

>>525971370
/thread. The only difference was the by the time we got on the internet we were at least teenagers because it was nearly impossible financially or technically for kids to go on the internet easily

>>525971108
What the fuck kind of retard take is this? Is he saying the number of pixels determines the gravitas of the content like the pixels are bullets assaulting your mind so higher pixel density equals higher damage per second?

I'm ready to start implementing IQ tests and a minimum IQ threshold to be allowed to use the internet. I've been online since 1995 and I've just been watching how everything changes. I've quite literally been sitting here watching the human race grow dumber over the past 30 years. Normals fucking ruin everything they touch. Their tiny low-IQ brains can't handle the endless glut of information. There's too much information for them to process correctly plus they have no will or agency of their own which is disastrous because there's no one standing over their shoulder telling them how to process and interpret things. That's why so many of the normals are so fucking deranged. They're like an LLM trained exclusively on Reddit. Their heads and stomachs are full of rocks.

>>525971108
I am oldfag with kids and I say destroy and censor the modern internet. Not because of porn. Not because of gore. But because of social media, bots and troll farms that render it useless and just made it into new retarded propaganda tool like TV and radio.
You laguh at boomers watching TV and believing what is said there? Well if you take your info from the internet nowadays you are no different. You all "antiestablishment" youtbers and shills are controlled opposition. If they were real opposition they would end up like infini-kun (which name is even censored here).

>I mean
Stopped reading right there

>>525971108
Buy a fucking ad you fucking faggot. Or better yet kill yourself.

>>525971108
Just abolish social media that's when everything went to shit.

>>525971108
Everyone under 14 should have to use dial up internet. And it will still tie up your moms phone line.

I'd rather have a wild west internet for everyone over 18 and no internet at all for kids.

>>525972790
No retarded jeet. He says that old internet had shit things in it that were actually hard to obtain and when obtained were poor quality, and nowadays kid can write in google "4k porn" and be given it on silver platter, also with himself being constantly monitored and recorded by various people, which can end up with him being exposed on the internet wihtout his consent.
Use this LLM to translate the post for you if you are at it you fucking street shitter.

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Millennials like me went through internet ww1 you went through internet Vietnam

Now excuse me I must address my fellow ww1 veterans about our current political situation.

>>525972975
Pierdol sie w dupe, Pawelek. It's obvious you don't speak English and are retarded. It was never difficult to find any of this garbage on the internet. It was also always dangerous for children to be on the internet. In fact I would say it was more dangerous back then than it is now because there was absolutely no moderation back then.

>>525972972
and how would this be possible? the only way to remove the kids is internet id. as soon as that is in place its no longer wild west because few people want to log in with their credit card to challenge the details of the holocaust narrative under their real name. if you know a way to keep the kids offline without privacy violation i'm all ears, but i can't think of one.

Im a landed something awful gentry we built this world your just living in it. If the internet was America I signed the mayflower compact.

>>525973267
This anon understands.

>>525971108
It's the parents' job to monitor what their children consume. If its that bad of a problem then they can just get their children they're not allowed on the Internet until they're 18.

>>525973254
> if you know a way to keep the kids offline without privacy violation i'm all ears, but i can't think of one.
anybody who says fr, ahh, unc, etc. gets their internet cut off immediately.
would be 99% effective with almost no false positives.

>>525971108
My parents are academics, but are completely technologically illiterate.
When I was 11 I was getting groomed by pedophiles online, who introduced me to 4chan.
I was a chronic masturbator by 12.
Parenting is always the problem.
Information and technological access should always be free.
The real problem is IQ, I'm ok with low IQ being turned into slave people with no rights like no internet access. That makes sense, let's do that.
Also men with an IQ above 140 should get like 10 beautiful slave wives.
Just saying.

>>525971108
>muh HD surveillance
Zoomer meme. Almost none of those guys from embarrassing memes ever got doxxed, it's the usual cope.

>>525973440
>no false positives
>that flag

>>525973171
Lol. You just show you are fucking low IQ subuman. There was no google in 90's. Finding shit meant you had to know what you are looking for and that it was available in shitty search engines. Even with early google you had to know how to use +, - and " " to get good results. One spelling error and you found absolutely nothing. If you were stupid or normie internet was completely safe. This is why normies came to me to ask for internet porn. Because they didn't know how to find it themselves.
You just proved you are bullshitting about being old and using old internet. Like all jeets you are just a liar.

>>525971108
I just think it's on the parents to be parents, and asking the government to step in to act as parents is another leap towards authoritarianism for the sake of parental indolence. Parents, right now, have all the tools they need at their disposal to enforce proper internet usage for their children, but they don't even bother to properly try.

>>525972839
Hes wrong. The internet was like the wild west in the old days. There was basically no order. You could find gore really easily back then with a few clicks, now sites like liveleak are dying every day. You can't curse anywhere either without getting ratio'd by an automated bot.

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>>525971108
>here's why we have to turn the internet into a totalitarian surveillance grid, where every post you make is directly sent to your banking account and you government. Think about the children.
Don't care. Don't give a fuck. Didn't ask. Fuck off.

>>525973720
You think old internet is 2000's for me old internet is 90's. We are not the same.

>>525972431
All of this.

>>525971790
>But what should actually be addressed is that it was much easier to find that bad quality gore.
Anon for the past 3 years when people spam gore on 4chan the mods dont even delete it long as it shows slavs.

>>525973937
>2kb download in a hour for a 10x10 of ranma 1/2 porn
If youre implying BBS usenet boards it still applies witb differnet coats of paint but literally nobody in general used that (much less knows it existed, even today) unless you were some hedge fund nepo baby

>>525974010
the only thing I ever see spammed is that dudes cock on /g/

>>525974116
Yes. I am implying these things.
Then you get into 2000's with e-donkey, kazaa and direct connect. Still it was harder to find anything there than it is nowadays. And you could download Shrek_ripped_480p.avi which ended up being pterodactyl porn.
And to find porn you didn't have pornhub or free sites. Everything was behind a paywall and you had to look for cracked passwords or know who to connect to on P2P networks. Or just walk to a computer market and pass discs and later CDs between yourselves.

>>525973658
>Finding shit meant you had to know what you are looking for
What is this disjointed thought process? Are you drunk? Holy fuck. You're cut off, kolego. Koniec.

You also have no clue what you're talking about obviously because there were plenty of easy ways of finding anything even back then. Are you just self-reporting that you're an even bigger retard that you couldn't find your way around back then? Little kids were able to figure that shit out no problem but you can't? Yeah you're for sure one of the normies that's about to get filtered out when IQ requirements get implemented.

>>525971108
He's right, but can't to the wrong conclusion. We habitually saw far more horrific shit back then than today. The modern internet looks like a daycare in comparison where people get upset over a few words. Back then you'd end up seeing goatse and tubgirl or some islamist cutting off someone's head or some teenagers hitting a homeless guy with hammers and other such vile shit all the time.
>>525971250
We shouldn't go anywhere. If anything we should learn restrictions, but that's never going to happen.

The internet is the safest way you can see horrific shit. You can literally walk away from the screen, but what you see on there can still prepare you for real life. Eg the October 7th attack was eye-opening. I could not imagine that something like this was even remotely possible, because I always figured that the military would immediately kill the attackers. Without seeing the footage it would be a lot harder to internalize that kind of shit happening.

>>525971108
Children aren't supposed to be on the net and it's the parents responsibility to ensure that.
Everything else leads to mandatory digital-id dystopia with CBDCs, social credit and carbon credit
Fuck this and fuck them
cbdcintel.org

>>525974386
>but can't to the wrong conclusion
came to the wrong conclusion
>If anything we should learn restrictions
lessen restrictions

Serves me right did phone posting.

There was no shortage hardcore internet porn in the 90s and early 2000s. I saw plenty of filthy stuff. Triple penetration double anal stuff and all that and more. And some of the first nudie magazines i ever stumbled across where hardcore bondage breast torture shit in a barn and far more extreme then the first time i typed "boobs" into a search engine. If anything how long it took to access porn online meant that if I downloaded something and it turned out to be something really filthy that i wasn't really something I wanted I'd fap to it anyway becuase I wasn't going to delete it for the storage space and wait for another weekend where i could have the computer on all night to download something else. And I don't really think fidelity really means shit when it comes to blood and gore. The sort of stuff that was on rotten.com isn't the sort of thing that's going to stay up on most websites these days. Hell, even here on 4chan there was tons of CP back in the day just pretty much out in the open and I don't mean 16 year olds or something like that. I mean the "type into imagefap, cum buckets" variety. The internet is already far more tame and safe in many ways. The wild west days over. The content online now isn't worse and the whole premise for justifying it is simply false. What's changed and gotten worse is how people interact with the internet and that it's not a separate place you go now. You'd solve far more convincing people to put down their phones and go for a walk sometimes and that could be achieved with awareness programs and social engagement instead of a totalitarian surveillance state.

>>525974370
Again you prove you are fucking retard. Using google translate to throw in some polish words does not make an argument you smelly street shitter.
>Little kids were able to figure that shit out no problem
Little kids had to know what to change in BIOS to have an useful mouse in Win3.11 which needed to be booted up through DOS.
I played DOOM multiplayer in my LAN network before you even knew what a computer is. And I bet you didn't even know DOOM had multiplayer.

>>525971108
It's absolutely the worst time to be a child online. If your child is on social media it's in contact with nonces. Absolutely delete that shit off their phone. With that said back in the day you could google search something simple and harmless like "apple" and 90% of the results were porn lol

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>>525971108
He's not wrong.
When I was a kid, yeah, we found our dads' porn magazines, VHS tapes, and DVDs, was it okay for young boys to be looking at that shit?
Fuck no, I still think all women are fuck toys, I can't look at a single female without instantly seeing what she looks like naked in my head, it's not fun bro!
Kids these days are beyond forsaken, it is truly the end of times, full blown American-Weimar, just you wait and see, you think shit is bad now, wait until tranny pedos and miga pedos realize they actually have * a lot * in common.
Whoredom will be the end of society as we know it.

>>525974629
What's with the gay internet-resume? Are you going to show us your pokémon cards and your LEGOs next, you clown? Are you trying to convince someone that doing any of that was difficult? Was it difficult for you? Did you have a hard time figuring out how to use a computer? By the sound of it that took you a lot of time to learn. There there, little moron. Don't shit yourself from all the seethe over nothing.

>>525974010
Lol. Back in the day depending on the board it wouldn't be deleted at all most of the time regardless of what it was and the thread would just be allowed to 404. Unless the mods wanted to make an example of someone for posting shoveldog or something.

>>525971108
Scat porn is becoming a huge thing whereas back then there were maybe 2 videos like that. Remember 2girls1cup? How it eas considered outrageous and it was only like a minute long low definition clip? You can find thousands of videos of scat fisting, scat anal, scat blowjobs, all sorts of fucked up shit. Not to mention tranny porn, you definitely don't want your kids developing a fucked up fetish and trooning out. If you're a parent and unsupervised internet isn't banned for your kids, you're a bad parent. Simple as.

>>525975144
sus

>>525973254
Endless ad campaigns directed at parents & schools that internet use is for adults only. As effective as the tobacco campaign, only a fringe amount of children will be on the internet.

>>525975144
This isn't new. You were just sheltered and didn't see it.

>>525974979
Ad personam is not a valid argument street shitter.
And internet-resume is important to point that internet in 90's wasn't so shit like it is today you fucking idiot who cannot comprehend simple logical arguments.
>Did you have a hard time figuring out how to use a computer?
Just by asking that you show again that you are fucking kid who was thrown into already established technology and you try to look like an adult by talking about things you have no experience in.

>This is an oldfags opinion
into the trash it goes.

>>525971108
God people are fucking retarded. Just because shit was low resolution it does not mean you couldn't tell what the fuck is going on. Back then MOST TVs and monitors were like 13" to maybe 32" if you were ballin' so resolution just wasn't a huge factor. Not to mention this was CRT. Now maybe we couldn't spot that tiny pimple on some porn stars ass but everything was still very clear and detailed.

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>>525971108
I came across the Dagestan massacre video on Kazaa. Pretty sure they were hustling a lot of kiddie porn on that too. I remember link bombing people with lemonparty and meatspin on AIM. I mean, yeah, he's kinda right. The graphics have gotten better.

>>525971250
Just block all websites for your kids and allow the ones which they need for school.

>>525971108
you could buy porn at almost every single computer show
if you don't know what a computer show is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9_SpBxK_0
the internet was full of the same shit back then as it is now.. just its faster now.

>>525975547
>its faster now.
When you ride a car and crash at 30mlph you can live. If you crash at 160mph you will get really wounded or die. If you crash at 300mph you will surely die.

>>525975223
All you're doing is just continuing to self-report your retardation. I have files on my PC that are older than you. And don't start getting all emotional and butt hurt about me railing your ass. You're the one that started with the personal attacks because you have no argument and therefore have to attack the individual. I'm Polish btw but I left that commie shithole over 30 years ago and thank God too because you people really are the niggers of Europe and are just insufferable.

>>525975662
>flag
>driving in mph
you what?

>>525975811
Translated it for you to understand. Instead of being grateful you got confused. Are you mutts really this stupid? Or are you on VPN from somewhere where yo use kms? Like India or Russia?
Plus I've lived in Englad for a while.

>>525971108
He's right. There was a limit to how much psychological damage we could do to ourselves as 90's kids on a 56k modem, spending 3 hours downloading grainy, windowed avi files in 256x144 (at best)

>>525971108
He's a fucking retard. Using the internet in the late 2000's constantly ended you up on lemonparty, scat, gore, heart-grabbing jumpscares etc. Now it's so sanitized that as a kid you have a hard time finding them even if you tried.

>>525971108
This is BS. Back in the 90s it was very easy to find stuff you shouldn’t be looking at, at all, anyone. Now there’s more security. I wish 18+ stuff would need better age verification but truly the 90s internet introduced me to stuff a 12 year should not be acquainted with.

>>525976056
You're in here trying to make this point while there's literally another thread in the catalog about how some zoomer retard saw one beheading video and now claims he has PTSD. Think about that combination of circumstances for a moment.

>>525975969
you know most tires aren't rated for 300mph? they will blow out. not only that most cars cant reach those speed.

>>525976149
Holy fuck you are dumb lol
Jesus Christ

>>525971108
My brother did his dissertation on the internet and concluded that the internet has destroyed society and is the worst human invention since agriculture. Kinda starting to agree.

>>525971108
Nah the content isn't the fucking matter.
I was watching way worst stuff even in the early 90s.

It's the fact you can pull this stuff at any given second and people often do.
Kids just gooning on buses to school, looking at hyper violence during literal conversations.
The only difference is that at the time you were subject to this behavior only during your time on a computer.
After you left the computer, that was it.
You had to live in the real world.

>>525971108
ok. No phones or internet until 21 yo. same as alcohol.

>>525976206
I'm not wrong. therefore not dumb.

>>525975702
Lol. Uciekłeś z komuny do komuny.
Jeżeli nie rozumiesz, ze kiedyś trzeba było wiedzieć co sie robi żeby tylko odpalić internet i przeglądarki jak Netscape kosztowały normalne pieniądze, żeby ich używać i porównujesz te czasy do dzisiaj to jesteś po prostu debilem. To już nie jest ad personam. To sa fakty. Przedstawiam fakty jak działał świat i internet w latach 90' a ty polaczku za głupi jesteś żeby to pojąć. Uciec od głupich polaczków mogłeś, ale w głębi duszy nadal zostałeś tym samym tępym polaczkiem przed którym uciekałeś i ta cała rozmowa jest tego żywym dowodem.

>>525976222
>the internet has destroyed society
or maybe society destroy the internet?
the internet is nothing but a tool.

>>525976608
The internet upgraded society. Too many trogdolites in the world and the neanderthals.

>>525976442
And once again I'm telling you that even children were able to figure it out and Internet access was basically free if you had a phone line. Maybe back home shit was not as accessible back then but that's just a tiny communist microcosm. The Internet is a Western invention. Over here in the West they were handing out free internet subscriptions to everyone, no questions asked, like communion wafers at church. The planet is littered with billions of those diskettes. You're here talking about how using DOS was some kind of arcane art or something. You really should just cut your losses and stop. By 1999 we all had high speed Internet in our homes here and the brainrot was already well underway except back then that poison was completely unfiltered and unmoderated. I don't know if you noticed or are old enough to even notice but the web has undergone a significant pussification on account of the fact of the normals have poured in here by the hundreds of millions and, like I said in my first post, their tiny little brains are not capable of separating fiction from reality therefore they cry to daddy government and the bleeding heart leftist commies for moderation.

>>525971867
>smart children? no problem.
Keep them off too, they'll literally turn into stalkers.

>>525971108
This is complete bullshit. Yes, graphic 4k porn is there, but actual gore and violence is heavily censored. The internet is full of filter words and blur blobs. Yes, zoomers are more fucked and stunted from porn, but they are not living through more hardcore violence exposure and they are very sheltered and naive. The internet is a safety hugbox now.

>>525977059
Please, daddy, determine what I can look at on the interwebz! Please, daddy, censor my experience! Oh, daddy, puh-leeeez!!!

>>525977263
Yep.

They ruin everything they touch. They'll have it stripped of any soul or organic quality all to offload any and all responsibility from themselves onto some faceless third-party from behind the shadows because they lack the intelligence and the will to think objectively about what they see. They are just chemically-driven emotional creatures with hair trigger reactions to everything and immediately become irrational then seethe and create more irrationality and on and on it goes. It's why all the media is so fucking gay and why all the video games are so fucking gay and why all the dumbfucks consuming it are so fucking gay.

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I just don't care about what kids see on the internet. It's that simple, not my kids not my fucking problem. Not willing to give an inch on anything to make a parent's job easier. No, I don't care about the overall well being of muh society. The price is too high and if that's what it takes we're cooked anyway. Fucking hate golems, parents are retards. We've already lost too much for no gain.

>>525976304
Glad you agree goy. And in order to enforce this regulation we will have to make you present your digital ID every time you use the internet.

>>525971108
He's right insofar as you had to go looking for it back then, it's one accidental click away now. You also have algorithms feed your impulses pretty badly

billions saw charlie kirk bleeding out in HD minutes after it happened so hes right
imagine if 9/11 happened now,you will have 4k videos of people jumping to their death
society is collapsing

>>525978605
They broadcasted that shit on TV for weeks and almost every kid saw it. Not a good example.

>>525971108
I am also an oldfag who had early internet access and I disagree with his entire statement.