>causes the death of hundreds of thousands of young Russian men>completely destroys any goodwill the West had for Russia>spends so much time and resources in Ukraine that he fails to secure Syria, Venezuela and Iran>soon Cuba and Nicaragua will fall too>Russian economy in war mode>depends on shadow fleets and middlemen that take huge cuts of profit>even if he wins the war Russia will have far less allies worldwide, an entire continent that actively hates them, a weaker economy and less productive workforce>and he also killed more "ethnic russians" than Ukraine ever didIs the Ukrainian war the biggest geopolitical blunder of this century?
>>525972255>Is the Ukrainian war the biggest geopolitical blunder of this century?only for the EU and the west tho since Russia is winning in Ukraine.
>>525972255>completely destroys any goodwill the West had for Russiawest never had any goodwill for Russiaplundering Russian resources for free is not good will
>>525972580Russia greatly plunders their own resources more than willingly.
>>525972419This.
>>525972255Aha. Meanwhile europe became US bitch ridden with nigger disease also would you mind and pick one narrative? Are young russians dying en masse or Putin is using hordes of shitskins, elderly and prisoners? So what is it NAFO troon?
>>525972255Getting millions of europeans killed is trad, nafo troon
>>525972255>Is the Ukrainian war the biggest geopolitical blunder of this century?probably, afghan war was also pointless but some ceo got extremely rich of it so this ukraine war must have similar intentions (get olygarchs rich)
>>525972255if putin was really based then russian money would be backed by goldbut he's not based he is just another goy that kissed the wall
>>525972255a classic monke blunder
>>525972701>Russia greatly plunders their own resources more than willingly.You can't plunder your own resources, if they belong to you.
>>525972255Monke is just another race traitor, although maybe he is some jew mutt so that would explain it even more.
Every time Russia suggested joining NATO or joining EU, the answer from the west was always the same: Russia has too much corruption, we cannot accept their partnership let alone membership.But everyone in the world today knows that Ukraine is objectively the most corrupt country in Europe and Asia combined, but nonetheless EU and NATO funnel hundreds of billions of $ to secure Ukraine as a member or partner.This exposes the true incentives behind West's past behaviour.It was never about corruption, it's just that Russia is "too big" and its size is naturally influential. If Russia would join NATO or EU, then Moscow would end up having more influence in those organisations than Paris or Berlin ever could have. This is also why they keep talking about the need to break-up Russia into smaller territories, before absorbing them. So they'd be helpless and fully at the mercy of Western powers.All of the above is plain and simple 101 geopolitics.And yes, all of this sadly culminated into a tragic war.And Putin is to blame for giving Ukraine 8 years to arm itself, he should have cracked down on Maidan in 2014 with very few victims instead.But the outcome is also obvious - the West has overplayed its hand, EU/NATO in particular. These two organisations are in big trouble. And Ukraine will probably disappear as a country by the time the war is over.
>>525972580>for freeI thought we are paying for it
>>525972419kek
>>525972255>has two generals for his vomit>still has to post his it in the catalogueWhat causes this?
>>525972964>I thought we are paying for itIn the 1990s right after the collapse of USSR, Russian assets and resources were bought for chicken-feed prices, and this was the state of affairs (under Yeltsin) that pleased the West very greatly.The height of West-Russia friendship was also the height of "free stuff from Russia with love".Once Putin began taking control of the internal market and international trade, that's when all the whining and crying started in the West.But Russia still sold energy fairly cheaply to EU, and the reason Germany had an economic miracle, was because the energy it paid for was many times cheaper than the revenue Germany got from using that energy for production and reselling.Now that Russian energy is getting cut off, the German economy is also collapsing, and along with it - the rest of EU.
>>525972701the nato liberal mind everyone
>>525972955Entire text full with made up nonsense.You have to go back pidor.
>>525972419>winning?
>>525972255>death of hundreds of thousandsAccording to the Ministry of Defense that published a video game animation and tried to trick us it was a video of the Ghost of Kyiv. Then claimed said ghost shot down 42 Russian planes all by himself
>>525973189We always paid the resources for the market price. Muuh cheap energy is made up propaganda. At least for gas it was more convenient to get it straight from a pipe.
>>525973308>Europe/US invests hundreds of billions into Ukraine>keeps losing land everyday and none of the ukrainian counteroffensives achieve anything>Russia invested less and is gaining more landyes this is winning.
>>525973355All for the cheap price of 2 million+ HIVans (source Trump and medvechud) so not bad at all since Russian lifes are worthless and churkas and Indians/africans are ready to replace them.And you zigger seem to forget your retarded invasion in the north and the very successful first liberation advance which pushed Russians back and the north east front collapsed.If you always ignore the failures then it's surely peak winning.
>>525972255And now putin has a new law: open borders with india and the Russian government promised to import "unlimited indians" to russia.Slava rossiya
>>525973688not really the same as the west if hes using them as cannon fodder
>IDS DA ZIGGAS FAULT WE DECIDED TO FUND TERORRISTS ON THEIS BODAZ
>>525973623Ukraine will never take back the Donbass or Crimea or any of the other territories that they have lost nor will they ever be able to fix their demographics after this.so investing into ukraine has been a bad investment for the EU and the West.for russia its winning, human lifes also never matter in wars no matter which side you look at. the only thing that matters is the end results and who controls the land.so yes Russia is winning.you could try help change that but you are probably too much of a pussy to go and fight for Ukraine.
>>525973688A total smart move to start a war of attrition with their already bad demographics/bad birth rate.A real genius.Don't forget the deals with Africa where he promised to import millions of them in the next years.
>>525973688>putin has a new lawIs that how things work in the EU?Your tinpot dictatress just "has a new law" one day and that's that?Yikes. Europeons on suicide watch.
>>525973688>indians see advertisements that say they get a lot of money, land and white pussy in russia>jeets board the bus>the bus drives them to a gulag in siberia>sign papers or sit in a small room for a week without food>sign papers>get send to frontlines>if jeet refuses they strap an anti tank mine to him and convert him into a suicide bomber
>>525973746They're going right to work, putin even declared they won't have any issues and russian state TV even runs advertisements encouraging Indian and Chinese men to get russian wives while russian men are killed off to "own the west"
>>525972580>west never had any good will for RussiaThe West kept expanding their partnerships and alliances with Russia even after they kept funding guerrillas and dictatorships all over the world and even after they annexed Crimea, Belarus and Georgia.Even when the invasion of Ukraine began most countries wanted to talk for a peace deal.If the west truly hated russia for no reason they wouldn't have increased their partnerships with Russia.>>525973355>what is cost of opportunity?Russia is losing way more in this war than the EU or even the US (which is objectively not losing anything.)
>>525973860sauce? big if true
>>525973834>russian tries to larp that he has even 1% control over what russia govt doesEven in EU you can just say no and the EU can't do anything. What happens if you protest immigration in russia? You wind upnraped by muslims and sent to jail. Or you get murdered like how putin had all russian nationalists killed in the early 2000s. I remember old videos of russian guys ambushing blacks and now they all got killed by putin
>>525973866>Russia is losing way more in this warthey arent and as it turned out they dont give a shit if McDonalds closes in russia.
>>525973836In reality it's just russian men dying while indians are even marrying russian girls and paid to do so by the russian government and the russian govt announced indians will get jobs while russians get killed:https://tass.com/economy/2054547Unlimited indians to russia as decreed by the russian government. You aren't allowed to protest this
>>525973780Ukrainians are just discount russians which Germany created in 1918 to further weaken Russia and 100 years later Russia is so retarded to suicide themself against their fellow Russians.The best outcome would be for the war to never end until the last slaveshit is gone from this world.We are winning no matter which sides wins since it's Russian vs Russians.
>>525973900Official tass announcement even in English to ensure indian men read it:https://tass.com/economy/2054547
>>525973977>these fake advertisement is so good even someone from poland falls for itkek
>>525972765putler being the washing machine of the world by sending thirdies to the frontilne is a kekkable image
>>525973998just looks like temporary work visa opportunity, not a citizenship pathway
>>525974015I've never read cope like this but it doesn't matter. Every minute another russian dies forgotten in donbass while an Indian gets a job and a wife in moscow
>>525972255Wow that's great, when's Ookraine going to start winning?
>>525973996>We are winningEU is only about losing, losing wars, losing economical power, losing their industry, losing support from their populations etc.its a club for losers and wasting their time, money and resources on a shithole like ukraine has not yielded any positive results for any of us.
>>525974085Sure anon, it's only temporary. Although not even russian govt is saying that. Russia 1 (poccnr 1) even ran an advertisement encouraging Chinese men to marry russian women. And Russia had a minister formally announced that Russia has a surplus of women and that Chinese men should marry them all while russian men are dying in donbass for nothing
>>525974015>>https://tass.com/economy/2054547>Tass is the truth not lies like western propaganda> Tass is propaganda
>>525972255You left out the 1 million pajeets that he had to import to not collaps, those roaches will breed with the women insted of the 1 million dead russian men. kek
>>525974086yea sure man, Russia is a paradise for jeets and they get free white pussy and money and Russians would totally never ever lie about these things to pajeets and niggers to get their asses within their borders so they have more meat for the trenches.
>>525974165There's no hope for russia as they are a globohomo multiracial police state. Putin had every nationalist murdered 20 years ago there's nobody even left to resist
>>525974170Nothing you write makes any difference. As we wrote, yet another russian died forgotten in donbass while yet another Indian got a apartment in moscow and paid to get a girlfriend by the government
>>525974157propaganda is propaganda, doesnt matter if its coming from the west or the east.and while at some points they might even tell you bits of truth, they will mostly lie to you to get you to think and act a certain way.like for example getting gullible low iq people to come to russia because they promise them free pussy.
>>525974148Source? Chinese men are not as bad but still weird if true
Both Russia and US are two multiracial empires that makes lives of whites more difficult. Coopted in different ways, but mostly same results.
>>525974231>in my mind it was realand yet ukraine and poland and NATO keeps losing.lots of the polish volunteers died trying to fight russia. go light a candle for these poor fuckers.
>>525973866>Even when the invasion of Ukraine began most countries wanted to talk for a peace deal.no they didn'tThere was absolutely zero calls from the west to settle the conflict in a way that would meet the needs of both sides.The west has been demanding total capitulation of Russia in the war since the war began, and labelling it "lasting peace".
>>525972255Imagine not knowing that most of the killed and wounded come from National Minorities that are expendable and not ethnic russians who would be more uneasy with the war rather than for it.And you post here. So you have access to information which is not mainstream media propaganda...so why are you just repeating their talking points?Two more weeks lmao
>>525973336>We always paid the resources for the market price. Muuh cheap energy is made up propaganda. At least for gas it was more convenient to get it straight from a pipe.nobody is preventing you from paying market price from different sellers now then, by why is your industry and economy collapsing then?
>>525974231>yet another Indian got a apartment in moscowApartment in Moscow is like $200k you crazy polak.
>>525973263>Entire text full with made up nonsense.I'm waiting for you to prove that text wrong. So far all you do is cry and deny
>>525974086Listen here plumber boy. You have to be retarded to think the vodkaniggers arent gonna be sending those shitskins into the trenches soon.
>>525972419They are winning, but to call it anything other than a phyrric victory would be insaneHe expected the SMO to actually be done fast, but he forgot to take into consideration the russian army's sheer incompetenceOnce he sent the troops in there was no turning back, if only to save face on an international level, he had to winImagine losing a war to one of your old backwater provinces, the damage would have been immeasurable
>>525974258https://tvpworld.com/89022946/-new-visa-rules-may-cause-chinese-russian-romancesRussia govt openly states their goal is to replace russian people with immigrants
>>525972419If you call that winning I can't imagine what would losing look for Russia.
>>525974383nah man russia is a paradise, the jeet will totally get that 200k apartment in moscow and white pussy on tap.this is totally realistic and totally what happens in real life.they arent gonna be like "lol I lied here is military service in the SMO for you instead", russians would never ever do this.
>>525974283Crying about Poland won't save russia, you were smart to immigrate to Germany. Putin has destroyed your home and there is no saving it. Indians are flooding in while russian men die off for nothing
>>525974449>He expected the SMO to actually be done fastsource?
>>525974354Government is paying for it there are entire city districts already in moscow where Muslims pray and block all traffic. My guess is putin hopes he can control.the growth of Islam by having a few million Indians in moscow and st petersburg
>>525972255picrel explains everything
>>525974473Russia can funnel an unlimited amount of soldiers into this conflict.
>>525974495see >>525974480
>>525974118Unlike zigger retards who worship pedophiles like Putin we actually hate our elite too and hope they fail.If they fail here just means the indigenous population eins even more.
>>525974456The fuck is this you dumb nigger? Its just a 30 day visa-waiver since china normally requires visas for tourism. Most of the west has 90 day ones and no one says this shit.
>>525974544why are you such a traitor anon?
>>525974661>we actually hate our elite too you are a pussy and you wont do shit, your negative feelings towards God Empress Ursula would be swiftly punished with fines and prison time if you made them public.
>>525974456TVP is a polish propaganda channel
>>525974333Because of the retarded green agenda ruining our industry on purpose. That's the main part. We get resources from elsewhere now and for a good price.
Yes/No Quiz for you:- Does EU recognise or intend to recognise Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk as Russian territory?- Does EU prefer an end to the conflict which would meet some of Russia's demands? (and some of Ukraine's demands)- Does EU make any effort to talk to Russia directly and bring it to a negotiating table?- Does EU intend to create a unified security treaty or platform which would take Russia's security needs into consideration after the war?- Does EU recognise that ethnic-Russians in Ukraine were subjected to punitive attacks by the Ukrainian government/military in 2014 and onward?If you answer "no" to all of the above questions, then congratulations, you admitted that EU wants war, and its idea of "peace" is the destruction of Russia. Which has been the case since early 2000s. Some key officials in EU even openly admitted for a long time that they see "Russia's existence" as a problem that needs to be solved.Bonus:- Merkel herself admitted that the whole purpose of Minsk agreements was to give Ukraine time to arm itself, and to lead Russia into a false sense of peace and security.
>>525972255The war is going exactly according to plan. Putin and Zelensky are both Jews who are working together to genocide the slavic peoples.
>>525974781>Because of the retarded green agenda ruining our industry on purpose. That's the main part. We get resources from elsewhere now and for a good price.the green agenda has been a thing for several decades, but your economy started collapsing only after the war began.Either way, good luck with your "other resources". I'll get popcorn
>>525974746It's just thirdie shitholes who worship their masters Russia and Putin, China and xi, India and modi , USA and Trump.We hate our leaders here
>>525974502Anon, they went in as a straight column and made a beeline for kiev, he was fully expecting the ukies to fold and let them through
>>525973189>the reason Germany had an economic miracle, was because the energy it paid for was many times cheaper than the revenue Germany got from using that energy for production and reselling.what the fuck are you talking about, imagine just talking completely out of your ass with absolute conviction. We had nuclear energy and coal during the Wirtschaftswunder. The economic miracle was during the cold war in the fucking 50s/60s due to the marshall plan you dense retard. You low IQ nigger.
>>525974591Ah yes, its a grand victory when you grind unlimited amount of working age russians in retarded war because Russian birth rates will replace those working age men in no time>Russian birth rate 1.4Anon, you know that you can win a war but still lose strategically right? Just look at Soviet Union, they won right, where are they now?
>>525974893>We hate our leaders hereanother reason why Europe is losing against Russia, China and the USA and would never be able to win a war.
>>525974956post the source where he directly says "I expect this to only take 3 days".
>>525974118>Dennis skipping his appointment with his Fotzenpsychologin todayA dark day for Germany.
>>525974970they import "soldiers" from all over the world now, there are millions of africans and jeets and north koreans they can send to the meatgrinder.they all believe the story of free white pussy in russia so they will keep coming.
>>525974960The marshall plan was just getting loans with high interests so that was a negative
>>525974800when a raped-when-young-KGB-officer wants to take over your country, you have no other choice than defend your country, retardpedootin was molested young, explaining why he became pedophile and even zoophile
On the map, strategically speaking, Russia is in a much better place now than it was before.>Inb4 muh Finland Nobody gives a fuck if their swampy wasteland is in NATO or not.
>>525975009I accept your concession
>>525974289The West asks for Russia to stop the invasion.Russia asks for total capitulation of Ukraine, to get all the territory they invaded, some territory they didn't manage to invade, change the Ukrainian president for a Lukashenko-like puppet and make Russian the official language of Ukraine.
>>525974956And it was ethical thing to do. If they had succeeded at it world would be much better place today. Hundreds of thousands of lives saved, no destroyed cities, no energy crisis in Europe, maybe even no Trump.
>>525974978The good thing is Europe is not at war it's retarded Russians and Russians 2.0 who are at war.Europeans are not dying
>>525975092the EU is wasting all their money, resources and assets on ukraine making their own population poorer. they take away from you to give it to the Russians 2.0 so they can fight a pointless war where at the end we are all worse off than before.
>>525975092Europeans are not dying but dying out tho the result is the same just with no pain&suffering.
>>525975051If only you would accept your pills or your bus ticket to Puccia so easily too. But they are too poor to pay you 1200€ a month for being a leech.
>>525975184seething and accusing me of being your made up boogyman doesnt win any online discussions.see thats why Europe cannot win, with supporters like you that cant convince anybody you just cant win, you cant win an argument and you cant win a war.
>>525975086ExactlyExcept they failed horribly and ended up getting dragged into a proxy war with nato>>525974994>Sauce? Sauce?>Proof?Think for yourself, for once
>>525972255His failure in Ukraine caused a domino effect that changed the world.
>>525975290>"but but think about my not winning fast enough cope! they they totally have to adhere to my timeline that I made up or else they are losing!"
>>525975380It was literally called the "3 day special military operation" at the startThe fact they charged into ukraine as a single column is clear evidence that he didnt expect stiff resistance, the ukrainian counterattack took them by surprise
>>525975464>It was literally called the "3 day special military operation" at the startsource?
>>525975327What changed the world is Trump but many argue there would be no Trump if not for war in Ukraine and his promise he'll "end it bcause democrats had no strength to say that even as lie so many people voted for the guy that could as result.
>>525975245Everybody here comes to laugh at Zigger cope and that's all. There is nothing to discuss or convince any Putin Bot. Monke will croak in the next 2-4 years and you'll have the worst type of civil war coming your way.
>>525975464>>525975495>The phrase "3 day special military operation" did not originate from official Russian government statements, but rather became a widespread internet meme, rumor, and claim in the early days of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022When you start believing in your own memes...
>>525975380Expending 30 years of military and economic buildup to completely destroy and annex 20% of a country that used to be in your sphere of influence is a loss no matter how you look at it. The initial state was Ukraine under Russia's wing, end result is 80% of rabidly anti-Russian Ukraine. The EU spent peanuts on soft power, then sent Ukraine a bunch of to-be-mothballed stuff and lost maybe a hundred soldiers total. Russia lost or crippled hundreds of thousands of men and expended tens of thousands of vehicles. By all metrics, Russia is worse off than it was in 2014.
>>525975533>bunch of "in my mind this is real" copeskek
>>525975606Expending 30 years of military and economic buildup to completely destroy and annex nothing is even worse, thats what EU and NATO did.many thousands of polish men died in the Ukraine for nothing.
>>525975603HuhWell, my point still stands, you dont just charge headlong into enemy territory as a line, thats just asking to be ambushed
>>525975603>Nuu if you don't get triple-signed affidavit from Putin then it doesn't count!lmao
>>525975707Are you one of those ukropoli?https://www.jpg.wtf/j8tfck.mp4
>>525975672What military buildup? Europe barely spent anything on the military in the last 30 years.Enonomically it hurts a bit because Germans are retards, but it's nowhere near 16% interest rate tier that Russia is experiencing.>many thousands of polish men died in the Ukraine for nothing.I'm sure it was real in your head.
>>525972419Lol, lmao even. If this is what russian "winning" looks like, I'd love to see what losing is, in the krokodile rotted brain of the russhit.
>>525975672ok golemnow show flag
>>525975798all the military stuff that they have given to ukraine for free you dunce
>>525975829Like I said, about-to-be-mothballed 90s shit that they spent a fraction of a budget on compared to Russia.
>>525975829once again the stuff ukraine got would've been boneyarded, sure they had to ship the stuff there but thats it
>>525972255>>causes the death of hundreds of thousands of young Russian men>>completely destroys any goodwill the West had for Russia>>spends so much time and resources in Ukraine that he fails to secure Syria, Venezuela and Iran>>soon Cuba and Nicaragua will fall too>>Russian economy in war mode>>depends on shadow fleets and middlemen that take huge cuts of profit>>even if he wins the war Russia will have far less allies worldwide, an entire continent that actively hates them, a weaker economy and less productive workforce>>and he also killed more "ethnic russians" than Ukraine ever didThe Rabbi at my synagogue also informed me that he is Amalek. So be a good Goy and oppose Putler, because he opposes our tribe's Zionist world order and is all that stands in our way of complete dominance of the globe.
>>525972419>I didn't need that hand anyway>Or that one>I don't need that leg anyway why would I care>Fine take the other one now I'm Symetrical>WTF Why can't I swing a punch or kick??????Basically Russia in a nutshell, Refused to Help Syria now it's oil and borders belong to the USA and Israel Refused to help Iran and now they are fucked either way if the Mullah's survive the population will not trust them again for decades, and may even descend into civil war, if they don't Khamenei's last gasp will be to set the region on fire, Straight of Hormuz closed Ships Scuttled in the Panama canal Terror cells wreaking havoc on anything they can find, and with the USA distracted trying to contain a literal oilfire China makes it's move.
>>525975900Russia is too weak to go against US directly. If burgers wants Syria, Vuvuzela or idk Iran gone Russia can't do anything against it. It's just how things are as EU/Denmark is soon about to find out.
>>525975874>we didnt need artillery and air defense anywaykek>>525975881>the stuff we send? was all a bunch of useless crap>ignore that we hyped it up for years as winderwaffelsLololol
>>525975900>Refused to Help Syria now it's oil and borders belong to the USA and Israelrussia made a deal with them, thats why assad is still breathing and playing videogames while russia still has its bases in syria.so nothingburger.>Refused to help Iraniran is doing fine on their own, israel hasnt done shit about them and their 12 day war was a big blunder.
>>525972255It works as intended.
>>525972255Yes
>>525976079it costs $0 to have some fat liberal pig write a sensationalist piece for X media outlet of your choosing, and look it gets you seething
>>525972255Yes, it was obviously a massive mistake in hindsight and even having Ukraine as a full fledged NATO member (which wasn't going to happen) would be preferable to the current situation.
>>525972255>Still in Ukraine >Still shelling away>Heavily investing into drone warfare and ECM>NATO doctrine already picked apart Monke already won after Bakhmut, they're just using Ukrainians/NATO insurgents for target practice
>>525972955>Every time Russia suggested joining NATO or joining EURussia has never seriously suggested either.
>>525976282>it costs $0actually it costs billions of dollars to create and distribute propaganda.
>>525976496what about when the machine is already up and running? you already paid for the console, the PC, the internet, you need to use it.
>>525976496Explains why like 95% of Russians are poorfags.
>>525976496also LOL my country has something called a federal reserve for your precious 'billions'
>>525976496keep grinding your rubles
>>525976591it requires a billion dollar budget every year anyway.>>525976602yup and this is our future under the EU.if you love russian poverty, you will love the poverty the EU will bring you.>>525976619>my country has somethingactually the federal reserve is not owned by the USA, its a private central bank owned by unknown jews from which the USA borrows money.and you pay the interest on this debt forever.so no, you dont have anything.
>>525972255>>completely destroys any goodwill the West had for RussiaThere wasn't any.>>525975053>The West asks for Russia to stop the invasion.They demand total capitulation>surrender the donbass>surrender crimea or leave it "unresolved" while giving up the land bridge and leaving it indefensible>let us use ukraine as a NATO base (which started this conflict)>agree to pay ukraine hundreds of billions in reparations, we'll just take it out of the 500b we stole
>>525972255Bro but the Nazis in Ukraine
>>525976706i never acted like it made me personally wealthy, but it waves away all this so called effort you perceive to be attached to these systems to the tune of 35 trillion in debt. You're technically servicing it too btw, the whole western world is. i just say my country because technically it is a part of my country. stop acting so smart like the jews arent implicit in every fundament of economics.
>>525976945>i never acted like it made me personally wealthythats was never their job, their job is to take more from you and make you poorer.as you see it works perfectly fine for them.>but it waves away all this so called effortall the effort comes from you and other golem cattle. you pay it.whats funny is that instead of getting angry about getting stolen from you celebrate this and try to twist this into a win somehow, which is kinda pathetic, its as if a nigger robs you and then you make excuses why this is good for you.
