IF you DISAGREE with this you are a literal KIKE.
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>>525980189unless you have a job -- then you have to remember that you are a SLAVE with no rights. said something wrong on company time? FIRED! said something wrong on your personal time? well, actually, you were still acting in the capacity of an agent of your employer, and so you're also FIRED!
>>525980189We have 1 amendmet in our bill of rights that says this, the second says that if anyone says otherwise you kill them. The rest confirm that the intention of the first is zero consequences from speech
>>525980189Agreed, I should be able to post your Legal Birth name, date of birth, Social Security Number, your current address, your ethnicity, your religion, your fetishes, and then follow it up with "Kill this nigger who lives here" And face absolutely no consequences for it, because if you disagree with me OP, then you are a literal Kike. I should honestly, put out both a hit, and a full Identity portfolio on you, without any consequence, because all I did was say it.
>>525980586That's an action and very jewish of you.
>>525980189consequences for what? what parameters are we talking about? Do kikes are exempt on your scenario? How will you enforce on kikes?Feeling suspicious about OP.
>>525980298>>525980335>>525980453GODSPEED
>>525980695Not an action, all I did was say something; am I not allowed to say things without consequences you literal kike? All I did was put a string of words together, as is the right you championed for. I should face no consequences for this, as is your argument.
>>525980779>I should face no consequences for this, as is your argument.that wasn't his argument, you moronthat's not OP not others who agreed with him
>>525980586>>525980779t. seething kikel
>>525980852Please see both the ID MVknfZAR (as same as OPs) and the opening line. >You should literally face no consequences for anything you SAY ever.>>525980893This too should be allowed, at the same time, I should be able to list your bank account numbers, your passwords, the name of your mother and her banking information, as well as say I am going to post images of her pussy onlineAnd again, face no consequences for this, because if you have a problem with this egregious application, then you are, a literal kike.
>>525980586Okay, but you can't because pretty much all of that information is unavailable to you.BTW putting out a hit means you're paying someone to murder me. At that point you're not just "saying things".
>>525981019ok. i was the moron. i concede
>>525980189Semitic
>>525980779Putting a hit on someone is an action, gaining that information is also an action, therefore not what I am talking about. Free speech protects ideas; doxxing is not an idea, it is a coercive action that destroys the conditions under which free speech can even exist. Regardless, private citizens anonymity should be protected, although those in the public eye should not. Anonymity is a requirement for free speech to function. Free speech limits power. Doxxing is a weapon of power. The state should service the free speech of the people, not the other way around. I.e, you shouldn't be fired for anything you say.
Your honor I never actually sold drugs myself or murdered anyone I just gave orders to people to do those things for me. So not only should I be free I should keep the billions I made running a violent Mexican drug cartel.>walks freeThanks Plato
>>525980779Extremely jewish rhetoric>Yelling next to your ear and damaging your eardrums is free speech and shouldn't be illegal
>>525981061Of course that information is available to me, I know where to look. I should be able to say that. Likewise, I should be able to say, with that information that I should be able to say that is available to me that I am free to state anywhere, that the person who lives at that location should be killed, because that is protected speech under OP's argument. That isn't an action, all I did was say words. If you are upset by this, you are a kike. >>525981143All I am doing is practicing my right to free speech, that you are a champion for. All I did was put words together, why is those string of words is not okay with you, whereas other strings of words are suddenly okay? >You should be able to say anything, just not these things tee hee. >>525981246That is what OP's opening argument opened the door to, don't blame me for applying an egregious application of his loose statement which allows for everything under the condition of literal kikeism lol lmao. Just say "I should be able to say 'I hate niggers online' without the risk of being doxed or swatted'. In that, ask for greater free speech, but not total free speech, because apparently, total free speech even bothers those advocating for total free speech to the point of getting defensive saying "Noooooooooooo..... you can't use my argument to dox and kill me!"
>>525980189what if someone threatens their neighbours every day?every single day the verbal threats get worse and worse, to the point where the surrounding neighbours become fearful for their lives and the lives of their loved onesmanipulation verbal abuse and degradation threats of violence etc.you're totally fine with this just being allowed?
>>525980189>>525980298Can't agree.I can agree. You can agree. We can agree.The rabble cannot. The people cannot.This is why democracy also fails.You can sell a man the ladder to heaven, and the people will break it down for firewood on a 70 degree day.
>>525981143To continue, Free speech protects expression. Doxxing isn’t expression. It’s the use of information as a weapon. Weapons aren’t protected under speech absolutism. Words themsleves are not inhernetly "speech"Now, calling the president of the united states a pedophile zogbot, THAT'S expression.
>>525981400>Of course that information is available to me, I know where to look.No you don't lol
>>525980189as a general rule, yesbut exceptions do and should existeg-doxxing, especially in cases where there is obvious risk to the person being doxxed-being a rude cunt irl. if some1 tries very hard to get you to punch them, and you do, the fault lies with them-libel, aka knowingly spreading false info to smear/discredit someone-leaking of classified info, especially the sort that endangers people or hands over strategically important info to adversaries. also applies to proprietary info, if you've signed NDAs and shit
>>525981234>Your honor I never actually sold drugs myself or murdered anyone I just gave orders to people to do those things for me. So not only should I be free I should keep the billions I made running a violent Mexican drug cartel.>walks freeNo worries, Pablo. You wouldn't have given those orders, if someone else didn't cause you to give them by using their free speech.
>>525981400see this words are not inhernetly "expression" words are used in expression but not all word usage is expressions >>525981533
>>525980586this guy gets it>>525980695>telling people my personal details and saying you will pay whoever tortures and kills you live on stream is an action!!no, it's just words, and you're a literal like faggot if you disagree
>>525980189I agree to such an extent that it is literally just words, some words are inextricably linked to actions (think commands, (credible) threats and slander, in example).But i feel that yours is a very jewish sentiment, not in a negative sense but because jews are the most yappy of all peoples who desire such things above all.
>>525980189I would've wanted to post a Ch**tw**d picture but i'm afraid of saving a picture of him on my phone
>>525980189What happens if I disagree? What happens if I'm a kike?
>>525981635again, words aren't only used in expressions. words are a tool, speech is merely one application of the tool.
>>525981400>total free speech even bothers those advocating for total free speech to the point of getting defensive sayingit did bother them, but I am still fine with absolute free speech even after the scenario you have givenbecause that scenario is already possible and happening, so i won't give up absolute free speech just because of it
>>525980189>IF you DISAGREE with this you are a literal KIKE.That sounds like a consequence to me
>>525981426>what if someone threatens their neighbours every day?well, maybe the neighbours wouldn't get threatened everyday if they didn't deserve it
>>525980189So if a someone coaches a 10 yr old girl to accuse you of having raped her and your life is destroyed, assuming you didn't actually do it, you think they shouldn't face any consequences?
>>525981400You should simply be allowed to say that the president is a pedophile protector and not get fired for it. It should be illegal. You should be able to say whatever you want about people in the public eye and not face any consequences (unless you threaten their life) - I just hate famous people and politicians. Apologies for being hyperbolic but it's /pol/. I still think you should be able to say most things except like doxxing or threatening private citizens. But again, I don't really think that's "free speech" in the first place.
>>525981888well, no - not really - not for anything they say. They should face charges for coercing a girl into doing that though. Again though, that is getting someone to DO something which is not free speech.
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>>525980189You should be killed it you offend me
>>525981538I work for the IRS, I browse Doxbin, and I buy information from Data Brokers. Of course I have that information on hand.
>>525981400anon, at this point I think you just go ahead and let some very dangerous people know, with words, that you'd really like them to kill these niggers right here:>>525981143>>525980695>>525981533>>525981556>>525981730>>525981861>>525981775there's nothing wrong with using words to express this to some cartel guys; you can also let them know that I'll help chip in for the reward once these things coke to pass
>>525980189I get the spirit, but no.That's a much too simplistic worldview, allowing anything to be said without repercussions runs tantamount to mob rule; lies should not go unpunished.
>>525981775Good, then you are a true advocate not a fence sitter like OP. >>525981635This guy also gets it. >>525981633Expression these nuts kike. >>525982250Exactly! Thank you.
>>525982128>if my words cause someone to act that's not my fault>yes, even if my words were "you better kill that motherfucker or I'm going to kill you"
>>525980189The spirit of free speech is that you can't talk shit about your government and suffer no retaliationFree speech was never about facing no consequences of any kind, private sector can and do censor speech because they aren't from the public sector
>>525982370that's not what I said at all.
>>525980189Freedom of Speech isn't something you practice...>You ENDURE itit's easy to preach your meme ideals, it's hard to listen to others'
>>525982250>there's nothing wrong with using words to express this to some cartel guysso there are "cartel guys" running around but the focus is on silencing speech? government for slaves by slaves, i see
>>525982172No you don't lol
>>525982408>private sector can and do censor speech because they aren't from the public sectorthere is no private sector anymore
>>525982538https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_captureregulating speech reached its final destination
>>525982445>implying >>525982469ion what you on about mani just hope someone take you the fuck out right quicki pay for bullets and give a cash reward too
>>525980189Wouldn't that require you to force people to ignore what people say? If a shop owner starts saying things about his customers' families, are they supposed to just ignore it and continue to give him their business. There is always the possibility that you face consequences as a result of your speech because your speech affects how people view and interact with you in this world. So I really don't understand your low-IQ proposition of how it would even be possible for your speech to not impact you in any way.
>>525980189I mean what about agreeing verbally to a shitty deal? Isn't that on you?Obviously I'm all for free speech but like if u call me a doublenigger I'm gonna call you a jeet. That's a consequence, is it not?
>>525982017Agreed with the first part, but you cannot say "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." That's where the argument fails. If you want a stronger argument. "Political discourse and disagreement should be allowed and a human right." Everyone will agree with you there. All or nothing statements fail automatically when the most egregious examples are applied, if you do not defend said egregious examples, then you are not truly championing your own weak argument, because why would you? It's putting you at personal risk of doing so. >>525982482Yes, I do. Can you disprove my claim that I do? >You didn't provide proof. I don't have to, I already said I did, the risk assumption is on you to prove that I don't. The worst chance you have is that I am telling the truth, and because you angered me, I put your private personal information online, of which, I spent money to acquire, and is my right, under this argument to put online without consequence and also saying "This is where FllqQasd lives, go and kill them." again, without consequence. At best, you could be correct, that I don't buy information from Data Brokers, that I don't work for the IRS, or I don't browse Doxbin looking for people to coerce or blackmail. You could be semi correct and semi wrong; but that's the risk you personally run, in trying to prove me wrong. In that, I am holding what could be a gun under my jacket, and you are saying "Nuh uh, that isn't a gun." You may be right, you may be wrong; would you like to find out?
>>525982718spot on
>>525982745not really a physical consequence. The circumstances surrounding your life should not change regarding the things you say perhaps.>>525982718I guess I feel like you just shouldn't be allowed to be offended lol
>>525982263*which means, there will always be limits on speech, which means it's never about 'free speech' per se, but keeping 'speech as free as possible' in reality.The left, when I grew up in the 90's, was the 'free speech' advocate, who threw all their principles overboard, once they kinda got the upper hand in the post-Bush era.It is neither left nor right, to intrinsically believe in those principles first and foremost, before falling victim into political camps.This type of 'citizen' has become a rarity, a form of tribal mentality appears to have imposed itself in the current Zeitgeist.
>>525982834>You may be right, you may be wrong; would you like to find out?Yeah, so I can keep laughing at you.
>>525982713>ion what you on about man>i just hope someone take you the fuck out right quick>i pay for bullets and give a cash reward toook, good luck. i will protect myself, and there are many who would protect me as well. and if not, i would be departing from a form of hell anyways
>>525982912Okay, post your username, email, steam account, discord/telegram handle then. If you don't, then you are a bitch boy pussy.
>>525980189No, we should be. Leftist should be censored to the max.
My cousin always talked shit about me.Consequences happened, now she is no longer considered family, haven't met her for years.Things like this is beyond retards like OP.
>>525982964Like I said, it's unavailable to you lol.
>>525982834Well, no because I feel like if you decided to go into public life you rescind some of your rights. That is the cost for fame and influence. I also feel like politicians should face capital/extreme punishment for corruption. I just think bad people should be punished and the public should be free really.
>>525982992She was right it seems.
>>525981061Based and true.
>>525983013lol, pussy. He's scared. GG no re, do not @ me again pussy tiktok faggot. Back to Discord. >>525983019I am the public, I am doing what I am doing freely. Free speech advocates only have a problem with this argument when it becomes a problem for them specifically. Again, all I am doing is putting out strings of words, of which, as a member of the public, I should be able to do, without consequence, as per the conditions of this argument.
>>525982901you're just a dumb cuntlurk more and maybe read some textbooks>>525982931>all this huffing and puffing about muh absolute speech freedumbs was just cope because my life sucksmakes sense, fuck off
>>525983142>proves my point>gg no re XDYou're bad at this.
>>525983165>>all this huffing and puffing about muh absolute speech freedumbs was just cope because my life sucks>i can't feel the suffering other than mine>i never suffered>the world is perfectno wonder demons like you fear the holy sun risingnow, kindly get in touch with the cartel you have been talking about so they can funky town your sorry excuse of a person
>>525983165>makes sense, fuck offyou should go to prison for this line btwit reminds me of the i wordand i took it as an order to do a mass shootingi will plan and prepare, and launch a terror attack on next new year's evethanks for giving me the final push
>>525980189Not in many cases. If you falsely accuse someone for instance
>>525983392>it reminds me of the i wordyou know.. as in I can't fuck
>>525983142Any string of words is not speech. You're blending the right to make a public record statement with the right to make sounds.
>>525983142okay I'm not arguing with you any more regarding free speech. I agree I was being hyperbolic. I'm trying to be good faith now. I do think however, that public figures should no longer have "protected status" this in my view would make them behave better lol.You should just be allowed to be really mean idk.I guess I'm not really advocating for free speech - more like "free offending" lol.
>>525980586>Kill this nigger who lives hereyou are asking not just saying somethingDiferent case would be -this nigger ought to be killed out of his faggotry-.
>>525983422i acknowledge that but what happens when someone (the authority) falsely accuses you of falsely accusing someone?
>>525983292>>525983392>>525983484seek professional help, seriously you're a burden on society at best, and a danger to others at worst
>>525983247Well, all I really need is a piece of personal information to get started, of which, you are too scared to provide. What you are doing is smart, and something you should regularly do. "Keep a clean online identity slate" Do not link everything, do not backtrace to IRL stuff, make your virtual world and your real one separate. When someone asks you for personal information, or attempts to reach you for identifying information, do not give it to them. Seek them out in different ways. Assume everyone is either a scammer or a fed, this is how you win. That is applicable outside of this argument, and stance; in the current application of this argument, you're just a little bitch ass nigga who is scared he might get doxed and swatted because he doesn't want to give out some PPI. Lol, bitch nigga. >>525983511>Speech is not Speech "All animals are equal, but some are more equal." Lol lmao. >>525983515There you go, that's the proper statement. "We should be able to criticize and act out against those who rule us." We should have coffee shops where we talk shit about the king and plot revolution and coups against the aristocracy. Agreed, and a sentiment shared since the dawn of civilization. >>525983539Under the initial conditions of the argument, this doesn't matter, with or without the in minecraft part; if you did not advocate the most egregious, then you were a literal kike, regardless of inside or outside of minecraft.
>>525983649>orders cartel hiti think you should seek professional help, seriously.you're a burden on society at best, and a danger to others at worsti win the argument, woohooo!!!
>>525983760That's lot of text just to say I was right and you can't do shit.
>>525983760>"We should be able to criticize and act out against those who rule us."AND i also think it should be illegal for you to face consequences like getting fired, losing financial autonomy or y'know stuff like that. Like it should enrage everyone who is not a politician that that dude got fired it's unethical.
>>525982901Damn u really didn't call me a doublenigger so I could respond with jeet? Way to go
>>525984020>unable to view subtext conversation. Yeah, you're a tiktok tablet babby. Git outta here and stop suckling tiddy milk and grow some hair on your chin before drinking revolution coffee you toddler. >>525984066Agreed, highly agreed. When things like that happen, its a sign you live in a tyranny state. What the Canadian government did was wrong. What your government did was wrong. What the Russia, Chinese, Iran, Israeli, Arab, North Korean, and Pakistani government did and still do are extremely wrong, and it should be illegal to face consequences for voicing your opposition. I think it's genuinely bullshit you cannot say "Xi Jinping is a fat fucking yellow faggot pig who sucks on shitdicks" without getting secret policed. At the same time, it sucks you can't say "Vladimir Putin is a nigger lover kike faggot who should be pushed off a cliff" without a visit from the FSB. You have a very good point; openly stating you aren't okay with a government should be a right, and it sucks that we aren't there yet. This is why we have coffee shops, and discussions like these on online spaces, because opposition is not illegal, it is the norm. And if you have issue with opposition, then you are, a literal kike.
>>525984345I accept your concession. Now post another funny cat and essay.
>>525980189All i ever said was corona
>>525984427So you're openly admitting to be 15 years old on /pol/?
>>525984533You can review my posts and see that I've never said that. I'm not sure why you addicted to being proven wrong by me.
>>525983760>We should have coffee shops where we talk shit about the king and plot revolution and coups against the aristocracy.uhh.. i don't think that's gonna go over well with the royals and their merry band of financiers they'll probably kill whoever they think is responsible for the idea...maybe i can curry some favor and get a reward for ratting out the misfits
Jesus was Jewish, and white. God says blasphemy is forbidden, OP is a nigger jealous of true men
>>525984688I am stating you are 15, you have to disprove me that you aren't, just like how I said, "If you give me a little bit of PPI, I can dox and swat you." Neither of us will budge on that; either you are 15, and be reported as underage, or you give me some PPI so I can dox and swat you. Anything will do, an ID with a timestamp would work to prove you aren't underage, otherwise, I am going to assume if you respond to this post without that statement, you are stating you are underage and you want to be reported as such. >>525984761Who cares? lol lmao. That's the point, what makes a royal a royal? What makes a financier a financier? Just a title and a name. I suppose water fills their lungs differently than we common folk. I do like how said people have a very specific royal afterlife than us common folk. That their blood runs gold and pearls, and not blood like us. That their heads are uncleavable and the guillotine simply refuses to slice them. >Maybe I should be a dog of the aristocracyThen you should die like one then, in a dirty alley with a bullet hole in the back of your skull.
Dont read long text posts, just coronaJesus does the daaance, the dance of destruction, mary lays around, shes watching all the action
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>>525985108>I am stating you are 15, you have to disprove me that you aren'tI don't though, it's your claim. Go ahead and report me for being underage if it makes you feel better. Nothing will happen. In fact, you have yet to back up a single one of your claims. You said you could get all that damning info and know where to look but you haven't. You shouldn't need tips or hints from me.
>>525980189So no one can react in any way to any sort of verbal communication?
>>525985595>admits to being underage. Talk about cutting off your own nose to spite your enemy.
>>525980779You're being jewish again!LOOK AT HIM GO.
>>525985682You're late to the Discord chat nigger. You will lose pay for this egregious tardiness. Now go outside and hold these two buckets of water until you learn to be on time next time.
>>525985672Like I said, you're really bad at this. Worse than I thought, where was the admission? I'm not sure why I'm still entertaining you, you don't know when to give up. Getting tired of punching down on a mental midget.
>>525985776>hold these two buckets of waterhow the fuck did you know about my two buckets of water that I hold outside every morning as a repentance for my anti-semitism?
>>525985796The proof is that you said "report me as such" You chose not to disprove it, and instead said "Go ahead." That's soft admission. I even gave you multiple outs, all (You) had to do was stop responding, but you couldn't because you are underage. Don't get me wrong, outside of this conversation, you are doing the right and smart thing; however by continuing this conversation in this manner, you are setting yourself to fail, because you think the narrative and meta narrative are the same; which is a sign of being underage. Like, my dude, stop replying lol lmao. >>525985861lol facetious ass nigga.
>>525986023>That's soft admission.Interesting cope. I'll wait for my ban then, it's more likely to happen if you can prove your own claim to the jannies/mods though. After all, I'm not the one filing the report so the burden of proof really isn't on me. It would be funny if I was 15 though, it would make you getting destroyed in this argument way more amusing.
>>525986352>Brother still thinks there is an argument being had. And this is why I am calling you underage, of which, you do not wish to disprove and are stating that you are by continuing with the current narrative.
>>525986443I mean you have access to all that info right? Proving it should be no problem for you lol.
>>525986486Only if you give me just a smidgen of PPI to work with in the first place, of which, you are too scared to do, even to disprove quite a damning claim of you being underage. The reason you won't is because you're scared because my claim could be correct, so you give nothing. Which in the meta narrative, is the correct move, continue this; however, in the current narrative is the wrong move and thus you are being called both a faggot zoomer and a coward. The problem is that you aren't seperating the two, and continuining the subnarrative, rather than just saying "Aight, time to stop replying"
>>525986787So are you going to actually back up any of your claims or are you just going to keep the mental gymnastics going?
>>525987798You, my young lad, are the back up; because yet again, you have continued to reply, despite there no need to do as such and works against your interests to do as such.
>>525987945Could have just said no instead of writing another paragraph.
>>525988098And you could stop replying rather than getting in your Marvel Quip in.
>>525982085Begone shill spammer
>>525980189Indeed and only discord tranny faggots disagree
>>525988289>Marvel Quiplol I wouldn't know. Someone like you being familiar with capeshit checks out though.
>>525980423just kill the jew responsible and live in his mansion off the infinite supply of gibs stipened onto the cards he had in his wallet. simple. and if its not a jew, but some traitor, a bullet will suffice.have an alibi, leave phone at home and take license plate off in the country then return their after to put it on, drive through mud, you know the deal.this is why jews are so obsessed with starlink. theyre entirely exposed currently. you can literally just look up their addresses and go and recover the stuff theyve looted from your people.
>>525980189Intentional defamation should definitely have consequences. And I'm pretty sure Plato or Socrates or whoever you think you're invoking would agree. Plato's Apology is full of Socrates shitting on his accusers for being lying niggers. And his denial of being a sophist, which while technically more about accepting money for teaching, was also associated with being willing to make any argument, even false ones. And that criticism of knowingly arguing for something false was also present in other dialogues.
>>525980189I agree. I should be allowed to publish whatever I want and manipulate the public en masse. I should also be able to pay people to speak the words I want them to speak so that everyone starts doing what I think they should do.
>>525989648You literally can't help it can you? You are of the mindset, "I have the get the final word in because if I do, I win?" To the point where you'll quadruple down and do the dumbest of shit to get the final word in." Let's give it a shot to see if you are better than your addiction. If you post again in this thread, you are stating that not only are you underage, but you have an explosive device and you are planning on using it within an immediate area. Now, I am not saying that you do, only saying "If you post again in this thread, that is what you are saying you have and plan on doing" Will you beat your nature to get in the last word, or will you make a terroristic threat online?
>>525980189>insult man to his face>get punched in the faceconsequences faced
>>525990577>call, or even imply, man the i word to his face>get raped?
>>525990385That's not how that works lol. Me posting again means none of that. This is just more futile mental gymnastics because we both know you can't prove anything
>>525980189> Consequencesnot the right word. Consequences happen regardless. Maybe Punished is better.
>>525985108i have read some posts in this discussionyou are good at provoking that poor guy (dont know why, whats there to be gained from that, only you know). i have to point out you dont sound so mature yourself , posting cat picture and using words like "lol", "lmao" . maybe, if you want to prove you are really mature yourself, give him some advice or useful knowledge he can use in life, if he really is 15, he deserves it, teenagers are subject to brainwashing, it would be respectable gesture from you
>>525991823I just want him to prove his original claim. I've waited over an hour for him to do it.
>>525980189>the universe should behave like my ego wants it to behavelol, how stupid
>>525991450My goodness! You really can't beat your addiction can you? Even when met with an egregious stipulation. You're either brain rotted or you're quite aware of the game. Please don't blow me up however, with your explosive device that you stated you have. >>525991823There's the rub, there's context, subcontext, narrative and meta narrative. The narrative and context is that of a fool; one is meant to look at the fool and say "Ach, what a fool" the upper narrative is however, giving him the advice\, of which he is following well; however, in the incorrect way. Only a fool gives someone their own PPI, is the lesson, he won't do it, not because he understands the lesson, but because he thinks the context and subcontext are the same thing, because he's a child. He's doing the lesson right, but learning the wrong thing; which is why the little tit fight here. >>525991940And I've waited for awhile for you to provide some PPI so I can start, or to stop replying. You have done neither thus the ongoing circle.
>>525980189I disagree. No consequences from the STATE only. Otherwise is fair game, you can say whatever you want and I can do whatever I want about that.
