>already longer than WW2 for russia>1+ million casualties>little and worthless terrain gained>economic devastation>sanctions and international isolation>your ships are getting seized>your allies around the world are getting destroyed 1 by 1things are not looking good for lil vlad
>>525980399>already longer than WW2 for russianot winning fast enough cope again>1+ million casualtiesin WW2 russia lost 20+ million so 1 million is a nothingburger>little and worthless terrain gained"we didnt want the lithium resources and coal and oil and gas anyway">economic devastationthey are doing fine and outproducing NATO>sanctions and international isolationnothingburgers>your ships are getting seizednothingburgers>your allies around the world are getting destroyed 1 by 1another nothingburger
>>525980399EVERYONE POINT AND LAUGH AND PUTIN
>>525980399ok you won
>>525980504>not winning fast enough cope againWhere's the snail by now, Paris?
>>525980399There is a lot going on in that war.
>>525980504>>already longer than WW2 for russia>not winning fast enough cope again>>1+ million casualties>in WW2 russia lost 20+ million so 1 million is a nothingburger>>little and worthless terrain gained>"we didnt want the lithium resources and coal and oil and gas anyway">>economic devastation>they are doing fine and outproducing NATO>>sanctions and international isolation>nothingburgers>>your ships are getting seized>nothingburgers>>your allies around the world are getting destroyed 1 by 1>another nothingburger
>>525980615what snail?
>>525980694>no counter argumentsI accept your concession
>>525980504>>already longer than WW2 for russia>not winning fast enough cope again>>1+ million casualties>in WW2 russia lost 20+ million so 1 million is a nothingburger>>little and worthless terrain gained>"we didnt want the lithium resources and coal and oil and gas anyway">>economic devastation>they are doing fine and outproducing NATO>>sanctions and international isolation>nothingburgers>>your ships are getting seized>nothingburgers>>your allies around the world are getting destroyed 1 by 1>another nothingburgerShilling for Russia in Germany Shilling for turkey in Germany Shilling for India in Germany Scum of the world, UNITE in Germany
>>525980829>brown people cope
Russia is winning haha two more weeks
>>525980399checked. who's the biggest loser though?
>>525980399I burped.
>>525980399>1+ million casualties. Anybody have any verification on these numbers? I can't find them anywhere.
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>>525980934MIGA Trump is king. Christ above race and heil pootin the savior of the White race for importing tajiks and churkas in Europe, fucking based. Like jews, but mongols, russians are saving western civilisation
>>525980504>in WW2 russia lost 20+ million so 1 million is a nothingburgerExcept everybody was losing people at the time.Now it's only Russians and Ukros.EU: zero lossesUSA: zero losses
>>525980504I might give you points on the other shit but >in WW2 russia lost 20+ million so 1 million is a nothingburgerThe demographics of Russia simply won't absorb this. The Soviet–Afghan War took place in Afghanistan from December 1979 to February 1989Soviets lost maybe 26k people in Afghanistan and this was the end of the Soviet union. 333 Helicopters 1314 APCs and so on... I don't see how Ukraine isn't going to be he end of the Federation honestly.Who is going to breed new Russians after this war? There going to be a staggering gap in the workfroce after this is over and Russians are going to import Indians or worse to cover it.How long before the population asks. My son had to die so some Indian could take his job?
>>525981070>source?>source?typical leftist faggot from leddit
>>525981140the fact that daycare was run by niggers that were scamming public and there were 0 kids in in is something you omitted by chance right ?
>>525980504>not winning fast enough cope againThis.
>>525980399he waited 8 years to do all of this.he is second greatest agent of GAE after Gorbachov.https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJablGMg3
>>525981070>>1+ million casualties.>source? Hohols, CIA and Mi6, obviously lies.What we found out is that there are easily over 1 mln dead hohols. And what is likely dead hohols are 4 or 5 to 1 dead russian. So , basically hohol jews and NATO trannies lies is the source. >real people tell me there are FIELDS of dead hohols across Ukraine
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>>525980399It get extra funny if you look at the last decade.From>mighty Russian Federation, no longer a gas station, second army in the world, our old but sturdy tech still flies to the orbit, we are so trad and nice, our tsars were fair rulersTo>this shitshow
>>525980504>winning at any cost is a good thingYou're either a retard or a paid propaganda agent
>>525980399>Loser of the CenturyI noticed a long time ago that libtards in the west spend 99% of their time in projection tactics.>accuse Russia of illegally invading someoneNATO/US spent decades invading/bombing tens of countries, without legal approval>accuse Russia of unjustified warsNATO/US spent decades inventing lies to justify their invasions>say Russia's economy is collapsingEU's economy is collapsing>say Russia is a papertigerNATO gets outed as a nothingburger without US Army participation, UK can't even afford financially to deploy 15k troops>declare Russia is falling apart piece by pieceNATO literally in the process of collapsing due to Greenland>accuse Russia of corruptionUkraine literally most corrupt shithole on the planet, and treated by EU as a MessiahAt some point you gotta learn the patterns.Everything the west says about Russia is self-referential, while "Russia" is just a deflection
>>525981799there's a difference between "winning" and winning. Too many people take too many liberties in defining what the goals of the war are, and what the consequences are.For example, Russia's main goals are to annex 4 regions in Ukraine, and they're about 80% done with that. Then you have some tranny prancing in, and talking about Snails and Kiev - neither of which has anything to do with real material goals of the Russian army. Now what are the spoils of conquest in this war?Main is:- Russia becomes territorially bigger, gets millions of new citizens, and this will have a real physical impact on Russia's future for the coming 100-200 years, maybe even more.Now compare that to a US victory somewhere in Afghanistan or Iraq - to this day nobody can still explain what was the point of those wars, and what was earned by the US in exchange for soldiers' lives:- USA didn't become bigger- USA didn't get more citizens- USA didn't get any 100+ long new alliances or friends- And USA clearly didn't get access to natural resources, given as now it needs Venezuela for that
Don't tell me it was all about the Arctic from the beginning...
>>525983163yeah, the two things that Russia was hurting for, territory and resources, really was worth giving up everything else for
>Still in Ukraine>Still advancingStill waiting for the Counteroffensyiv
>>525983270historically, yes, Russia always needed control over Ukrainian lands for self-defence reasons, and losing those areas was a big mistake in 1991.>really was worth giving up everything else forcan you define this "else" you're talking about? What did Russia give up?Please don't tell me your answer is "friendships with the West"
>>525981311It will be the same shit that is happening everywhere brother. The politicians don't care about people, to them we are just a pawn if you lose a pawn who cares as long as you deliver check mate to the enemy.
>>525980399To be fair, Russia is going to lose in Ukraine, but that doesn't mean Ukraine won. Ukraine now has such a severe manpower shortage and expontential debt problem as well as a massive infrastructure problem that cannot be fixed. They have the lowest birth-rate in the entire world. It's so bad they've stopped doing statistics for it.
>>525981311>Soviets lost maybe 26k people in Afghanistan and this was the end of the Soviet union.Afghanistan didn't cause the collapse of the soviet union.USSR's failure to reform its ecomomy is what caused the collapse.
Why can't the Ukraine get a win, with all its funding and gibs and help?How come they keep losing?
>>525983547Ukraine was never going to win, it just needed to bleed Russia dry of it's people. No people no army, no economy. The only winners in the end are all the other world power that can now grab as much as they can from Russia.
>>525983679most people in Russia are barely even aware there's a war going on, while the war effort is primarily driven by contract-service + mercenaries.The whole "bleed Russia dry" is nuclear-level copium by EU losers
>>525980504>A kraut shilling for Russia Embarrassing, what a cuck.
>>525982699The European Union holds the values of the Talmud and the Jewish sense of responsibility and justice. Claiming that corruption is a bad thing is antisemitic.
“>your allies around the world are getting destroyed 1 by 1“North Korea and Belarus have nukes (Belarus have Russia nuke in their territory) China also have nukes and it estimates around 700 but probably above 1000So yeah, those guys don’t have to worry about fallen/getting destroy Especially when every smart person know “air defense” is meme and not going stop 99%+ of the nuclear head in nuclear war And now there is Iran, they might already have nukes or might not, but I would like to say that Pakistan is not going to let USA fly their combat jet above their territory to attack Iran (Pakistan also have their own nukes) turkey support them, they have thousands of Ballistic missiles, they have underground base and they proven they can block satellite, and USA kind rely on their satellites images to attack, mostly Just give my opinion on this subject
>>525983821Do you think that resources appear like mana from the sky? When a war happens you take as much as you can for the army you can't send soldiers without food, fuel, ammo or equipment. And Russian has been fighting for what 4 years now? Do you think that their economy isn't getting worse and worse every day? In time something has to crack. And before you call me an EU shill, fuck EU, fuck kikes, fuck muzzies, fuck USA.
>>525981717This does seem more plausible. I was watching Colonel Douglas McGregor and he said that it was 7 Ukrainian dead to every 1 Russian.
>>525981734How did cpt caveman fly with his club?
>>525984123It seems you're missing the point that Russia isn't even treating this as a full-scale war. It's treating it as a limited operation.In the meantime Russia has just signed new contracts for shitloads of new military equipment manufacturing, and is even by Ukraine's own military intelligence - is expanding the size of many units.If you want to talk about Russia "cracking", we can talk about it after Russia declares full-scale war and mobilizes the population. But for now it's just small-scale mercenary games.
>>525983270The most sane attempt to explain this development I read was RF preparing for depletion of easily accessible deposits of gas and oil. That's why they want so badly the East Ukraine and Azov Sea, but at the same time don't seem to be so interested in the rest of the country.
>>525984854>talks about most sane explanation>gives most retarded onenever change, poland
>>525984968Enlighten me then, rasta flag. What kind of profits RF could possibly expect to get out of this mess, after the initial failure of SMO and quick land grabs near Azov Sea?The deciding factor at this point is China using RF as a bullet sponge to eat western military resources.
>>525981239Always sucking cock or eating shit with you freaks
>>525981070It's a lie, it's actually two million.
>>525980696>what snail?
>>525985467>Enlighten me thenpretends he cares to knowand then>after the initial failure of SMO and quick land grabs near Azov Sea?>The deciding factor at this point is China using RF as a bullet sponge to eat western military resources.inserts own bias immediately to shut down the conversation, and misuses the term "deciding factor" which transforms his declaration into vomit word saladI already told you what Russia gets, if you'd be reading this thread instead of engaging in self-jerking narcissism.But I can give an expanded version.Russia:>secures dominance over the Black Sea>takes away NATO's ability to use Ukraine as a military base>expands buffer zones, and by doing so, secures its western flank which remained exposed since 1991, but was naturally secured for hunderds of years>gets millions of new citizens>eliminates hostile ideology on its bordersIf you think this is insufficient in terms of gains, and everything must be related to money, then I am afraid to inform you that you are a kike and was raised by kikes.
>>525980504seething
>>525984598>But for now it's just small-scale mercenary games.What a cocksucker this Lithuanian is ahah. Big bro Russia is just warming up guys, getting smacked around only makes him get bigger and stronger, just wait until he gets mad!
>>525986199You could just write "me zigger slava putinu". Same effect, less words.
>>525980399>Time Magazine>A shred of its former print editionWhose the loser?
>>525980399desu historically they took some time to get shit together
