Why do brits cling to ukraine so hard?
>>525985442I think your country is clinging the hardest
1 million dead ruskies per decade for the next 1000 years of ukraine war i hope
Day 1400 of the 2 Day special operation Vlad.Enjoy being overrun by Indians and having your leaders lease your land to china because you're broke bois.
>>525985442They are trying to ram as hard and deep the Ukraine against the Motherlands womb as possible. The Rusbreaking continues
The City of London wants the Odessa port. I want their globohomo sea trafe disrupted
>>525985442Once Ukraine defaults on bonds bought by UK they go bankrupt
>>525985442It's the best chance they've had in years to send their sons to die.
>>525987889this. all those bonds and "loans" were supposed to be paid back by plundering russia, they're seething that it's never going to be paid back.
>>525985442For whatever reason bong elite have always wanted to take russia down and this has been the case for centuries. They are just clinging to anything that could have the smallest chance to hurt russia, more now than ever because the bongs need to /k/ope with losing even their little island after the already lost their empire.
>>525985442Why do Russians cling to Ukraine?
>>525988756Russia is on Ukraine's border, and Ukraine was part of Russia for centuries.UK is not anywhere close geographically, and has zero history or connections to Ukraine.So the question the OP asked is valid.Now answer it without deflecting.
>>525985442To give a serious answer, British foreign policy is dominated by neo-cons/atlanticists. This is basically the pro-NATO, pro-western faction that dominates our foreign policy establishment including the foreign office, ministry of defence, intelligence services and various think-tanks that crowd around them. They see Russia as their arch-enemy because it’s encroaching on western sphere of influence in eastern europe and is not globo-homo or democratic/gay enough. Whereas American diplomats just cynically use claims of foreigners being authoritarian, homophobic etc. to justify military or espionage action a lot of the British establishment are genuine believers in these causes - for example we were one of the few countries to pushback against US leaving Afghanistan in 2021 because a lot of our politicians actually believed in the nation building project.The other tangent is the obsessive WW2 nostalgia in our media who’ve often projected the idea of Blighty fighting the next hitler onto foreign states. They treated Saddam as Hitler 2.0 in the media for years up until the invasion and now Putin has taken that role since the Skripnal poisoning in 2018 and have doubled down since 2022. The irony is that Russia also uses WW2 nostalgia to justify the Ukraine/NATO as a rehash of Nazi Germany.>>525988755The stuff about the great game being a constant in Anglo-Russian relationship isn’t really true, as we largely dropped our opposition to the Russian empire at the end of the 1800s when Germany and the US started to become the empire’s major rivals. Compared to the US itself we were not especially hostile to Russia in the Cold War either as nobody in Western Europe wanted to take the conflict too far. We were reasonably accommodating to post-soviet Russian business interests in London for a while too. We only started to get hostile again after Crimea in 2014 and then the Skripnal incident turned our media on to too.
>>525985442>Why do the elites cling to ukraine so hard?because they're jews and are at war with your jews .but i fixed your headline.
>>525989120Russia was part of Ukraine for centuries
>>525985442ukrannies
>>525992654This validates the anglokike obsession with Odessa how?
Wouldn't it be nice if Putin had just occupied those two rebel border territories, and stopped.It would have been a replay of Crimea in 2014. Nobody outside of Ukraine would have cared.
>>525985442>Why do brits cling to ukraine so hard?They think it's possible to rebuild the empire through militarisation.Also, they still hate Russians over the Crimean War of 1853-'56.
>>525992913Blood, soil and... faggotry?
Foreign Office and glowies live in a different world. For these people the Cold War basically just never ended.Also it allows a certain amount of political sublimation for things that liberals deem 'inappropriate' - e.g. we cant defend our own borders properly but you're allowed to be very passionate about defending Ukraine's borders though
>>525985442they really hate russia for ww2, britain lost the empire and comie niggers gained a new one
>>525985442They bet everyone's pension on ukraine winning. Cant wait for the tears
>>525993910He did stop.Ukraine had the 2015 offensive Ukraine had the 2016 shelling of DonbassTrump made them stop the nonsenceThen on Feb 19th 2022 they started shelling again so Russia invaded on the 24th.
>>525990184>the Skripnal incidentFascinating case. I still think that former Russian spy was smuggling some toxic shit out of Porton Down, during their big annual exercise, to try and get back to Russia.Some interesting facts: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/04/pure-ten-points-i-just-cant-believe-about-the-official-skripal-narrative/
>>525987889They already did.This march will be the fourth year in a row ukraine will miss its 600 million dollar intrest payment to the EU.
>>525992654>>525993267no, they get buckbroken everytime they're asked what is West's interest in Ukraine.Because not even NAFO or the most fucked libtards believe it has anything to do with "my rules-based world order can't be this cute"
>>525985442Because we don't want Putin transplanting all the Jews from Israel to his Israel 2.0 project
>>525985442Because they want to kill you rusnigger
>>525995036Right because we all know the UK doesnt let jews in...
brits saw that germans and russians were getting along and that russia could supply europe with raw materials and energy so the EU could use its capital stock to transform it into higher value good which would have totally surpassed the UK in price and qualityit would effectively had united european capital and equipment and asian resources which would have made shipping and the UK completely irrelevant and become a scrub next to Eurasiathe UK can never allow this union to happen so they occasionally provoke war on the European continent to keep their powerits simple
>>525996071Based knower
>>525985442Once all the farmland in the UK has been sold off to Blackrock, food is going to be hard to come by round here.
>>525985442>with crimea, russia has access to the mediterrenea sea that can reach here >we have the biggest military in europe with nukes (but are told we're irrelevant) so europe needs our help. that's not saying much but most of europe has no military at all until this wake up call, completely wide open.>we do what america tells us. even if trump pulls out they will tell us to take their place as insurance>russia's elite liberals moved here with all their rubles so they are part of our elite now >ukraine is a new country so they see it as a chance to turn it into something they want to see that will later influence other countries (eg. central asia) including russiathese are all theories. the general attitude here has always been our elites know something we don't and we should just listen to them.
>>525989120>Donetsk, a major city in Ukraine’s Donbas region, was founded in 1870 as Hughesovka (Yuzovka) by Welsh industrialist John Hughes from Merthyr Tydfil. Hughes brought 100 Welsh ironworkers and miners to develop metallurgy, building blast furnaces, rail lines, schools, and an Anglican church on the Kalmius River. >Sevastopol was founded in 1783 by Rear Admiral Thomas Mackenzie (also known as Foma Fomich Mekenzi), a Scottish-Russian officer of Clan Mackenzie origin. Commissioned by Catherine the Great to establish a Black Sea base, he laid the initial foundations for the city, including the chapel, wharf, and admiral's house. these people and interests were how we got sucked into the Crimean War
>>525985442You mean Starmer.Cos he's mental
>>525985535Kek
>>525985442of all the countries opposed to russia why do russians have it out for the brits so much specifically?
>>525997279So really those cities really belong to us
>>525997446>Starmerbruv?
>>525997782in Ukraine especially Donbas they are taught their history is partly british which is why they have such a strange obsession with Boris Johnson.
>>525985826>Enjoy being overrun by Indians and having your leaders lease your land to china because you're broke bois.Top tier projection cope little nigger
>>525997941https://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/04/10/god-save-the-queen-and-donetsk-too
>>525997941News to me.
>>525997706Because we have been perfidious as always. We allowed their money into the country, allowed their influence and for them to purchase/develop assets and then snatched it all away.Russians have not had the same kind of foothold in other western european nations, we kinda played both sides.
>>525985535Very good, Ameribro...
>>525987889Are these pre-war bonds?
>>525997279>Charles Gascoigne (1737–1806) was a British industrialist and engineer who is considered the founder of the industrial city of Luhansk in eastern Ukraine. >Known in Russia as Karl Karlovich Gaskoin (Кapл Гacкoйн), he established an iron foundry there in 1795. so 3 of Ukraine's major cities (Sevastopol, Donetsk and Luhansk) were founded by Brits. now all occupied by Russia. even if Brits don't know or care about it, I suspect Russia used to push it to encourage separatism in Ukraine then swooped in themselves.
russia is ukrainian territory
>>525987889this
