Countless people are praying and hoping that you commit suicide, don't give them the satisfaction of you knowing that you're burning in HELL forever and ever because you killed yourself. Stay safe out there anon. Rot and age gracefully. Peace.
>>525997762>YOU WILL GO TO HELL IF YOU KILL YOURSELFonly if you believe in hell when you do it
>>525997762>gracefullyI'm ill there's no grace in that
>>525997762Killing yourself because sad is gay. Killing yourself to preserve your honour or attain immortality via transfiguration is the ultimate act of defiance. Ancient men understood this.
>>525997762If you've spent a significant amount of time trying to lie through your teeth to convince someone you deemed evil to change their ways via beliefs you never held and stances you've never stood for you're already going to hell and you likely already removed yourself (thanks) from the genetic pool.Cut down the block not across the street to bleed out fast and efficient.
>>525997762I've never been dead. I don't know. The Christian Church said so. Father said we should suffer and die, it saves us time in purgatory suffering for our sins. I can't find where that's in the bible, or a pope said so. that suicide means hell. Considering Christ died for our sins, and could have chosen not to, I think it's legit to question this teaching, until someone can say a pope said it from the chair of saint peter and not some asshole pompous ox who threw out the bible and started made a 6 volume library on what his faith was that no one is going to read.
>>525997762What if you just drink a lot, smoke a lot and get cancer from shitty diet?
>>525997762Hell isn't real, crossnigger.That being said, people shouldn't an hero generally speaking. Someone with chronic debilitating pain, however, is understandable. If you disagree with me on that, you haven't had chronic pain before.
>>525997762How can a loving God be so cruel as to compound a person's grief and pain so bad they take their own life with eternal torture?That's pure evil.
>>525998282When you realize his god is jewish it makes perfect sense.
>>525998169Death is just way more depressing knowing nothing happens after you die. Afterlife is the biggest cope in mankind. It gives us comfort in knowing when we die we get to live on. It gives our loved ones comfort in knowing that we live on in a better place.
>>525997762Suicide by cop is the only way out. It's the loophole to easy access to death without actually killing yourself. You force other people to kill you because you spoke the TRUTH.
>>525997762I don't believe in your imaginary friend but ok
>>525998155everyone is dying/aging, you're just making living your short life more painful to ensure both physically and mentally by using drugs and alcohol to cope because those things have consequences
>>525998684Honestly it’s way more fun to drink and smoke than doing nothing at all. Live life to the fullest and crash and burn.
>>525998017Imagine wanting to live forever.You losers couldn't handle the transgenders, the transspecies will make you run for a shotgun. Unless you're tail anon of course.
>>525998435Yes and no. Eternal life has its perks, but so does nothingness.
>>525998803having terminal illness like cancer sucks bro. do you enjoy being sick?
>>525998934At least I get to die with some dignity and not some an hero. Also it’s not be specifically, I’m pretty healthy. Just saying lots of people live life like that and it’s technically suicide. Circumventing Jesus’s definition of suicide. It’s not like I’m speed running cancer.
>>525997762Kek what an uplifting message. Don’t kill yourself, keep aggravating the people who want you dead
>>525997762What's a hell and why would I go there if I killed myself?Any evidence to back up these random assertions?
>>525999401you won't feel the need to use alcohol or drugs just to make existing bearable if you have Jesus in your life or if you're letting Him carry your life's burdens instead of carrying it alone
>>525998017Pretty much, man. The world is can be pretty crappy. I hate the archonic "no excuse" golden rule. It's like they WANT you to suffer.
>>525999638do you believe that the bible is the word of God who cannot lie?suicide and abortion are murder (verse 21)Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
>>525999788Pretty sure Jesus and god arnt going to help you IRL based of your own biblical standards. It’s up to you to help yourself. So when the pain of modern society come crushing down you’re going to want some McDonalds, alchohol and cigs. Combined with inflation, no bitches and then lgbtqita++/immigrant bullshit I wouldn’t blame anyone for having a few drinks at night and a Big Mac.
>>525997762suicide is lame, but talking about hell/heaven/religion in general proves you're a sub 80 IQ retard
>>525997762>YOU WILL GO TO HELL IF YOU KILL YOURSELFDepends on the reason, really.
>>526000348Jesus helped me by removing my care for things that made life unbearable for me through His grace and giving new desires and care that give me joy and peace of mind. our outward reality and perspective of world are formed within us, not the other way around, do you know what i mean?
>>526000634meant to attach thissorry for double post
>>525999899Murder and suicide are not the same thing at all. So even in your harry potter book they didn't write anything about suicide specifically? Damn...
it's your hell, you burn in it lolif you think ANYONE deserves hell, then you deserve hell
>>526001126does the Christian God deserve hell?
>>526000717How many days of NO SLEEP does it take to achieve all those sores.
>>526000771we're saved by faith and the evidence that we have faith is we wouldn't be suicidal. suicide is a work of unbelief in God.
>>525997762God came down and touched my hand so I can suffer for everyone’s sins. If I killed myself I would be damning the world
>>526001805The Christian god is always in Hell. Kinda like the emperor in 40k. Constantly suffering for all time because of our choices.
>>525997762Anti-suicide propaganda and religious dogma are to prevent Owners/Lords/Rulers/Corporations/Popes from losing their Slaves/Workers/Canon-Fodder/Subjects/Serfs/Followers. They don’t want you being free of your bondage so they indoctrinate us not to let lose the mortal coil and keep working.
>>526001895For me, around three. Also yeah I probably shouldn't kill myself.
>>525997762you won't get accepted into the next place unless you die a brave death of self sacrifice - that's what jesus' message really was. If you live a compromised life you just get reincarnated back again. The only way to leave is to die bravely.
>>526001930The average Japanese soldier had faith and still went ahead to be a kamikaze in ww2.Some muslim suicide bomber has faith and still suicides, this is happening in our lifetime.Even a crusader that goes on the front lines knowing he is going to die is still suiciding in a sense. It's no surprise there is no verse explicitly advocating against suicide.Anyway, superstitions aside, I don't see why someone should have to rot in pain and misery instead of gracefully ending their life.
>>525999864The clay needs refining fire to be more that just a wet, bland lump.There is beauty in your struggle, and you have not been abandoned by THE ONE that actually matters.
>>525998435Yeeeeah no if at 2 points I astral projected once and the CIA declassified it's real then why the heck would it be a stretch to say there isn't some realm we can't see?
>>526002951Adderall?
>>525997762>YOU WILL GO TO HELL IF YOU KILL YOURSELFcan I see the bible verse?
>>525997762Lefties don’t believe in hell, so there’s no reason for them to not kill themselves and go straight to nirvana.
>>526003869Hell in not mansioned in the Bible. It's made up bullshit. Oh well.
>>526004584gehenna is mentioned, look up what happened in the valley of Hinnom.
>>526004679A trash dump outside a city wall on fire?
>>526004816what did the israelites practice there in the past?
>>525997762>tells us not to kill ourselves>posts someone that killed themself
It's written that everything is going to get even more worse. If the devil knows that he'll win for 5 seconds then get perma blown into oblivion, why does he continue? Why does so mivh suffering have to occur before "On Earth as it is in Heaven"?
>>526004953Is this a burning dead bodies, or sacrifice reference?
>>526005080practicing ritual child sacrifice by passing them through fire.
>>526005039it goes on until no more can be saved.
>>526005039So that's what the fucking Teletubbies did to that generation. I always had a feeling. Like tripping on acid.
>>526005134So that equals eternal damnation and such?
For anybody that needs to see this
>>525997762what if you let them put you in The Pod? technically, the canadian government killed you.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fY8dENdB620
>>526005293you are burned up until you dont exist anymore. that non existence is eternal. the burning up process is not.
>>526005219Is that the trending /x/ theory? A children of Man scenario wherein there's no more souls in God's plan and the true end of times can begin?
>>526005380I just think the concept of hell is a weird Catholic extrapolation of what's actually in the Bible.
>>525997762>Oh so you dont agree to this life i put you in and you just want out? Thats it you will suffer forever instead!
>>525997762Define hell. You have to do this shit again.
It's our duty to stick around and troll the devil
>>525997762>not killing yourself to save your soulCringe>not killing yourself because you refuse to let the jews winBased
Thanks anon.I'd also posit that killing yourself doesn't have to mean taking your actual life. You can kill your current self by merely relocating. Anyone that's ready to blow their brains out could also just toss a few things in the car and drive. The end result will be killing your prior life. The Bilbo Baggins is also amazing. I had thought before about inviting people to your own funeral / memorial service just to see who shows up. What good is inviting them after you're gone. I'm sure some may be upset, but, would be better to see who really cares. And you could catch up and enjoy those people before going to the bathroom or something and disappearing like bilbo.
>>526006653Good stuff
>YOU WILL GO TO HELL>IFlol
>>525997870>only if you believe in hell when you do itWrong. You go to hell irrespective of your beliefs. Reality does not care about your beliefs or feelings. Heaven is real, hell is real. Suicide is the greatest sin - the sin against Life, the sin against Holy Spirit, the Life Giver.
>person in horrible pain decides to opt for medical death>Man with terminal cancer decides to die now instead of wither awayWhy the FUCK would God sentence them to eternal hellfire?What kinda of sick twisted shit is this?Shit like this is why I couldn't continue being Christian. Half of the religion is fear based.
It’s a really selfish thing to do too. Your pain doesn’t disappear. It just gets amplified and then transferred to friends, family, people who have to see it or deal with it.
>>525997762>>526007715Also, according to Christians, the guy in your OP, Robin Williams...is going to be screaming in hell for ETERNITY.Do you guys even COMPREHEND how sick and twisted that is? I don't think so, because if you DO you'll have to face the horror of your beliefs. Sick fucks.I remember debating my priest about this and all I got was "God works in mysterious ways" and "we can't apply morals to God".What the fuck?
>>525997762This is the only reason i havent done it. The Triune God is merciful, but no amount of intercessions from the Theotokos and all the Saints can keep someone out of hell. Hell is our choice, we are made in Gods image and suicide is blaspheming the Holy Spirit, which is the only unforgivable sin.
>>526005380Pic related. It implies eternal punishment. >>526006119The mix up tends to be the conflations of Tartarus with Gehenna. Tartarus was a specific place in the Greek underworld which the worst sinners were said to go. In particular Tartarus is the place where rebellious angels were sent to await judgement according to the epistles of Peter. In Greek mythology, this is also where the Titans reside after their death--some literary evidence of syncretism. And then there is the historical contexts around which all these books were written and how the religion became prominent. There is either the religion itself being invented to create a Hellenistic variant of classical Judaism. We also cannot ignore the Zoroastrian influence upon the formation of classical Judaism either. There is a Zoroastrian hell which predates classical Judaism as well. Much of these books were not written until after the "return" which was really just the installment of an independent Pallestinian king to the region. >>526007715It's because it's a fictional religious fairy tale to scare adults into compliance and to justify rule by a certain dynasty of 5th to 1st century kings.
>>526007330What the fuck is this image supposed to communicate?
>>526007925>It's because it's a fictional religious fairy tale to scare adults into compliance and to justify rule by a certain dynasty of 5th to 1st century kings.I agree.I genuinely think the only reason this religion dominated Europe was because it was fear-based, and fear based religions and beliefs stick around far more.Once people are exposed to alternate beliefs, the fear starts to fade, because logically people ask "why the fuck would God sentence this group or this person to hell, that's fucked up".And the screaming psychos like OP don't help.
>>526006049why? the call for repentance goes right up until the end of Revelation.>>526007925Malachi 44 [a] “For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. The day that is coming shall set them ablaze, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall. 3 And you shall tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day when I act, says the Lord of hosts.do you think you will look at burning people for eternity or what? who wants that.
>>525997870the only correct post, the brain enters a state of "quantum immortality" upon death and essentially drugs you into a lucid state that "feels" forever(even if its not). so when you die, you usually have the most intense lucid dream of your life, which is why believing you're going to go to hell is creating your own
>>526000717>>526000634no anon, YOU did those things. which makes them much more commendable. good luck with your life.
>>526007925>>526008162>old testament referencesJews don't believe in an afterlife retards, they're talking about worldly fire against living people. Hell is an invention of Christianity, and is just a mistranslation of Hades.
>>526007715>>526007861hell is not eternal, its a twisted doctrine of the roman church to milk gullible "laity" of their money for their loved ones.the wicked burn up and thats it, a new heaven and earth.their non existence is the eternal part.
>>525997762> Don't give them the satisfactionI could care less. I want to die because I'm caught in a constant cycle of financial misery and I'm either too stupid or too arrogant and impatient to break out of it. There is no worse fate in the first world than having the intellectual capacity to understand your plight, but the lack of discipline and good fortune need to overcome it. It's why I tell young anons to get the fuck off of this dump and go to work immediately. Stack money starting as early as possible. Without capital invested in things to generate passive income you're a slave until you make enough to do as you please. It's a horrible way to live without purpose or the ability to pursue higher ideals and values.
>>526008162>do you think you will look at burning people for eternity or what? who wants that.According to Matthew and Isaiah, Yahweh wants that. Especially according to Isaiah 66:22-24. If you believe in Christianity or Judaism, you believe that every sabbath you will go to worship Yahweh in Jerusalem and then look at all the people burning for eternity in the nearby fiery pit.
>>525997762Bullshit. Jesus forgives all sin for those that believe the gospel. There is no limit. Nowhere does Jesus, John, Paul, or anyone say that suicide is some special sin that can't be forgiven. That is a Roman Catholic invention, invented out of whole cloth like much of their ideology, including continual sin confession and penance. John 3:16 says that whoever believes on Jesus (i.e. that His finished work on the Cross has washed away their sin) has eternal life. And John 3:18 says that those that have believed are NOT condemned.Look, you shouldn't kill yourself. But it is bullshit to claim that it is a special sin that can't be forgiven. Rape and murder can be forgiven but not suicide? LMAO.
>>526008338Hades/Shoel is just being asleep in death waiting for the resurrection which every hebrew believed in.David writes about this extensively in his psalms. without the resurrection from the dead there wouldve been no need for Jesus to come to earth.
>>526008568Oh you understand already, my bad
>>525997762Please, I'll go to hell if I die of natural causes as well. Which, to be fair, is why I haven't killed myself yet. Hell probably isn't that much worse than this life, but why rush to find out? I'll get there eventually anyway.
>>525997762Will do.Thanks Papa Nurgle.
My mom killed herself and God seemed to let her slide somewhatShe’s still broke but not in agony
>>525997762Hell can’t be worse than globohomo clownworld40 years and I’m tired
>>525997762you'll also go to hell if you wish hell to othersyou'll go to hell if you don't cultivate good thoughtsyou'll go to hell if you don't get rid of your bad impulses
>>525997762I live out of spite
It's extremely selfish to kill yourself when there are so many others more deserving.
>>526008338>Hell is an invention of Christianity, and is just a mistranslation of Hades.Hell is the translation of Gehenna into English at least according to the common translators. You're also missing the point. The eternal punishment in the valley of Hinom is not in the afterlife. It is after the second resurrection which is said to occur in Revelations 20. That is, everyone is brought back to life. Those who worshiped Yahweh and Jesus are said to be forgiven of sin while those who did not are sent to Gehenna to suffer for eternity according to Isaiah while still being alive IN PHYSICAL BODIES. >Jews don't believe in an afterlifeThey don't focus on an afterlife but Jews do believe in one. The problem is in confusing Hades with Gehenna. They are two different places. Moreover there is also the Catholic and Orthodox traditions which eventually came around and equated Gehenna with a symbol for eternal torment in the Greek afterlife rather than eternal torment on the earth after the second resurrection. Catholics simply just further syncretize the Hellenistic and Classical Jewish religions.
>>526008483dont confuse the punishment for men with the punishment for satan and his angels.
It is crazy how the concept of Hell is the one thing that keeps me from going full Christian.That's an ETERNITY in hellfire.Even the most evil people on Earth don't deserve that. I don't think you understand what that means. The human mind cannot even fathom such horror.I want to reiterate:If you truly believe this, than morally and proportionally, there is no evil act that can be committed on Earth that matches the punishment inflicted there.Explain yourselves on how this is justice. Do not simply say "in the book". I want a justification.
>>525997762Where is this in the bible? Where is hell described in the bible? Spoiler alert. It's nowhere to be found.Shoel (the graver) is mentionedThe Lake of Fire is mentioned as the destination of the fallen angels.Gehenna, a literal physical burning trash heap is also mentioned.None of these are "hell", a place of disproportionate, infinite, eternal burning torment and agonized suffering in retaliation for a handful of decades of sinful behavior. The invention of "hell" by man is one of the greatest sins because it's so disproportionately sinister and evil, it drives people away from God. Shame on anyone who pushes this on people.
>>526008166Kek. What is the evolutionary reason for having such an experience? Moreover, what causes such a reaction? Lack of oxygen? Why aren't the fuckers who get choked out having these experiences? There was one famous case of a patient who coded, left body, went to other room and saw physician eating spaghetti. Moreover, that person could hear physician thoughts about feeling sorry for himself about having a patient of his cose during his shift. Crazier shit is the same person saw the spaghetti stain on the doctors tie. None of this should have been possible.What I'm getting at is we are not in base reality.
>>526009907eternal soul concept comes from paganism.the bible talks about the second death of the soul.death is death, not eternal conscious existence in fire.
>>526009907The tournament is separation from God. The actual feeling of this separation is an anguish worse than burning. The actual fire is from the lake of fire, which is the second death. As for punishment fitting the crime, the Lord is Almighty and does as He pleases. Why should he do what you or I or anyone else would think is just and fair by our inevitably biased and jaded standards? Would it not make sense to approach the while subject with humility and a desire for me knowledge and reconciliation, as opposed to demands and ultimatums? You are expecting an answer from the Creator God... show a little decorum, is my $0.02
>>526010367You are here in good faith. It's unusual these days.
>>526009907>Hell drives me away from ChristianityThis is exactly what I was posting about. God bless you!Look up "Universalism", which is what early Christians believed. They believed that Christ saved EVERYONE and whether you like it or not, you will be saved. You can get a slew of kick-ass pre-order bonuses if you acknowledge Christ and try at least to live like him while on Earth. If you don't, you may still have to pay for your sins somehow. Likely, you may have to face or experience the effect your sin had on the world, feeling and experience what your wrong-doing caused which would be perfectly just and probably an awful experience. At worst, it will be complete destruction as God effectively "unmakes" you but that'll be that. Or you can just admit now that you're a hopeless sinner and skip all that right now. But eternal suffering is a hard-sell invented by evil men. Christ is supposed to be a no-brainer soft-sell proposition.
>>526007861We're actually believe that God's mercy is greater than all the sin in the world combined, and we pray for its dispensation upon us with humility and thanksgiving.
>>526010703I come from the background that the bible is both addressed to man but also satan and his angels and demons. maybe even more so than to people.1 Corinthians 2:7-97 But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. satan would have not tried to kill the Lord if he knew beforehand that it was his defeat. thats why that fact was so well hidden even in the OT. satan can only work with what was revealed to him over the course of the Word unfolding.if you read the bible from that viewpoint it will blow your mind. its basically God outsmarting satan for his sin of wanting to be like God.
It would be nice to kill myself without pain and suffering
What about sodoku?Something traditional like offering yourself as a sacrifice or shitting in a wafflehouse; One could argue that suicide is mandatory in some cases...like transitioning
>>526003290>defending suffering
>>525997762I ALREADY BEEN TO HELL AND GOT OUT WITHOUT YOUR HELP SO NAY I DON’T GIVE A SHIT. WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE FOR ME EXCEPT SAY HAHAH NIGGER.SO NAY YOU MADE ME JUST LIKE THIS EVERY SINGLE PERSON NOTE YOU ARE EVIL.
>>526011516AND NAY I DON’T SAY THIS AS A GOTCHA OR ANYTHING I SAY THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALSO THE TYPE OF PERSON TO USE ANTI-WHITE LANGUAGE I JUST CAN’T TRUST TRAITORS AND LIARS. AND I KNOW LIARS QUITE WELL. YOU NEVER HIDE.’
>>525998169>Hell isn't real, crossnigger.If hell isn't real, where did the jews come from?Checkmate, atheist.
Is this another tranny thread
>>525997762Based OP
>>526012182Get it over with and go fuck one. Seems to be your thing.
>>525997762But Jews want you dead , help the Jews and kill yourself
>>526003144>anciet fairy tales to get people to die in never ending wars
>>526005341Do something positive on your way out.
