Is non- IDPOL leftism dead?
>>526005795There are pockets of places online, but as a movement in politics, it's dead. The end of Cumtown and rspod flirting with rightwing are signs that it's in life support.
Unfortunately yea. Although it could come back since the economy sucks especially bad rn, but I'm not holding out hope.
(legacy leftism is dead, correct)
>>526006237>>526006529lumpen AGP troons and brown fetishists all the way down now?>>526006617>it could come back since the economy sucksdon't you think whites are the only ones that might care, since they're consistently the backbone of skilled trades, and that requires some white ethnic consciousness and stronger national identity? No successful labor movement ever happened outside strong national or ethnic identity, not even in Russia or China. Those structures had to be attacked by the party later (ie, Korenizatsiya)
>>526005795Still one of the best memes that showed what was yet to come.
>>526007001Well that's the calculus, if conditions get bad enough people will demand a seperation from the uniparty that is both socially conservative (on things like immigration, policing, and drugs) and economically leftist (on things like healthcare, unions, and taxation). This is obviously very unlikely unless our living situation dropped so dramatically that we get a sorta accelerationist political revolution, but there's inklings towards people slowly moving in that direction currently with people like Trump and Bernie trying to appeal to their own coalition while simultaneously giving scraps to populists on both sides with the tariffs or criticisim of the dems handling of the border and whatnot.
>>526005795>self-described “liberals” literally laying down their lives for illegal migrants that businesses exploit for cheap labor, causing depressed wages, just because said migrants are brownYeah, it’s dead
>>526007778People talk about a revolution that has to come as the conditions decline, but when you look at other countries and see how dogshit they are and still the people don't revolt, I just don't know where the bottom is.
>>526007965If they call themselves liberal that's fair game. The problem is they misrepresent themselves as leftists and progressives dodging the liberal label.
>>526006753say when did they revise the smith mundt act, again?
>>526008294It's not a matter of general destitution, it's just about a worsening of conditions compared to before. A country like India is used to living in squalor, but westerners are accustomed to a certain standard of living, and if we were to lose that ability to comfortably put food on the table or pay rent it wouldn't be an easy fix for the political establishment.
>>526008294>People talk about a revolution that has to comethere's a case to be made that all revolutions recorded in history start among elite factions, so outside localized revolts there really are no grassroots revolutions like in popular imagination (popular revolts get exploited by elites, but never become "revolutions", usually happening in the reverse order). Look at elite theory for more on that perspective.
>>526005795Most of them checked out of politics entirely. They viewed the media's sudden obsession with wokeness not as progress, but as a deliberate psyop to divide the working class. They were demoralized by watching their movement get hijacked by the system successfully bought itself 10 years of safety by swapping the 99% vs 1% narrative for a white vs black or men vs women narrative.
>>526009075Today's elites are generously compensated in NGOs either from the wealthy donors or scam the government to pay themselves and they have deluded themselves on the righteous cause of idpol. I don't see them leading anything and are more likely to be the cause of dysfunction.
