origin and identity.The English are another German people, like the Deutsch, the Dutch, the Norse, the Swedes, the Danes, the Austrians (ethnically Deutsch but under a different state than Deutschland), the Frisians, the Belgians etc. Calling themselves Anglos, the English ("England" is a version of the name "Angle" or "Anglo") obscure their German roots. Both the Angles and the Saxons were Germanic tribes, thus the English/Saxons are Germanic people: Germans. "Germany" is the name for all the Germanic peoples, and calling the country "Germany" obscures German identity, which is much broader than Deutsch identity, as the Deutsch are but one ethnicity of the German nation, right alongside the Dutch, Danes, Swedes etc. The English/Saxon language is indeed quite different from the other German languages, the rest of which are much more closely related, but this is only due to the Norman Conquest (another conquest by Germans: the Normans who were Norsemen in France: another German kingdom, i.e. of the Franks). The Normans, having adopted the French language that evolved from Gallic Latin, basically Latinized a German language by adding tons of Latin vocabulary, but the ancestry and family of the English language, along with its grammar, is German.And the name "German" is just a Roman convenience. The Romans encountered the Germans, i.e. the "Germanic Peoples," across the Rhine River from Gaul, which was inhabited mainly by Celts. Right near the Rhine lives a small tribe called the "Germanii," and the Romans took their name and applied it to what they knew was an entire, distinct cultural group east of the Rhine, a culture group different from the Gauls, who were Celtic like the Brits and Hibernians and the Iberians. So Celts dominated west of the Rhine and "Germans" to the east of the Rhine, but the Germanii were just a small tribe, smaller even than the Belgae, who were also categorized as "Germans" by the Romans, and smaller of course than the Saxons and, later,
Guys what's ethnogenesis and why does it occur?
>>526037790I've never ever not even once heard anyone refer to English speakers as "Anglos" unless they are from like Vietnam or France.It's like me calling somebody a Biafran or a Sudd.
>>526037790the Franks. The Franks, of course, went on to become the biggest and most important German ethnic group, though for a while the Goths were the biggest, and in fact the Goths established kingdoms in both Italy and Spain/Iberia when the Western Roman Empire collapsed in the late AD 400s. The French are semi-German, indeed their name is German and they have strong Germanic blood, but their culture is at least as Gallo-Roman in origin as it is Germanic, and the German genes predominate in northern France where Celto-Mediterranean genes predominate in southern France. But anyway, the English/Anglos are German: a branch of the "Germanic" family of peoples that includes the Deutsch, the Dutch, the Norse and so on, this whole identity being named after one small tribe (the Germanii) that the Romans encountered in the first century BC (could just as well have called Germans the Goths or Gothic Peoples).Calling themselves Anglos and English, they obscure their German origin and culture. Why do the English want to run from their German nature?In the 19th century, English nationalist historians were happy to group themselves among the Germans rather than the Celtic peoples, who were seen as much less accomplished and inferior, like the Irish.
>>526037905But there was no ethnogenesis, at least not any full ethnogenesis creating a whole new people.The English/Saxons are just Germans, like the Dutch, the Deutsch, the Belgians etc.And the whole Anglo world is a branch of the German or Germanic world. So the Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, and Anglo South Africans are all Germanic peoples too.
>>526038249>But there was no ethnogenesis, at least not any full ethnogenesis creating a whole new people.
>>526037990"Anglo" is used all the time in right-wing discourse. And for some reason, today's rightists and nationalists are keen to distinguish the Anglos from the Germans, while nationalistic English historians in the 1800s were just the opposite: keen to claim that the Angles and Saxons wiped out the native woads or Celts in Britain and the English are almost purely German at the genetic level.
>>526037790Why? Because immigrants built Britain. Angles and saxons tried to invade Britain a few times but were BTFO’d. The Romans invited them in because of Irish and Pictish raiders being more troublesome. What happened next was all four barbarian groups conspiring against the Romans. This happened before in 380 but the Romans seemed to have forgotten that when they let the Germans inside in 450. Shame.
>>526038310Yes indeed, I am smarter than you.You seem to be a butthurt "Anglo" trying to escape your German, Saxon identity.
>>526038406The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes invaded Britain in the early 400s, not in 450. The Romans pulled out of Britain, as militarily indefensible for the dying empire, and as economically not worth the trouble, in the first decade of the 400s.
>>526038440are you seriously doing the reddit spambot boogie?
>>526037790stfu you stupid muttanglos are kikes
I grew up thinking I was part Scottish because my mom's dad had a Scottish last name... Nope, we're mostly German. Turns out Germans anglicized their names during WW1 because it wasn't "cool" to be German. There was even a German man in the US who was lynched over racially motivated violence (pic related). It came as a surprise to me, because in my mind, Germans were always the "default" or "core" of Europeans... it's crazy to think there was a time in history when they were seen as "others."Nevertheless, Germans are still the coolest Europeans in my mind and I'm proud to have that blood in me. Just sad about the state of modern Germany, but it's understandable given all of her warriors were eliminated in WW2.
>>526038671lmao, i bet your mostly irish
>>526037790The entire Anglian race en masse without exception men woman and children migrated from Anglia to England's East coast. Even Edinburgh was part of "North Anglia" and critical Mercia was the "border" between "Middle Anglia" and the Welsh.King Penda was an Anglian pagan king resisting pressure from Saxon Roman Christians and defending Arian Welsh Christians and other Briton pagans.England is very Anglish, and just a teensy bit Saxon and Alfred understood this and sought a united Angleland not a Saxonland. Remember Cumbria was Celtic and needed to be integrated.
>>526038249>The English/Saxons are just GermansGermanic, not Germanto say otherwise would be like confusing Turkic people with Turkish people
>>526038571Wrong. They invaded but were beaten back. The Romans pulled out forces but the locals were armed and were Roman descendants themselves ie colonials. It all went down hill in 440 or so, the decade was called the groans of the Britons because of local Roman warlords creating a civil war plus Celtic invaders. Germanics were kicked out several times before that. Then one warlord invited a few Saxons and angles and others did as well, they fought the celts and other warlords. This began in 450. And it took 100 years for the Germans and celts to chip away and extinguish Roman identity. It all happened because Romans invited them in.
>>526038757Not a drop of Anglo blood.
>>526038142Franks were the Istaevones, one of the three tribes of Germans. They are specifically Cimmerian, the Cimbri. They were specifically the West Cimmerian tribe of the Sigynnae.
>>526038953Eadwacer was an Arian, Gothic Christian Saxon invited in to replace the Roman legions and there was no civil war.Horst and Hegnsa were made up mythological kings.Eadwacher was Odacer.Saxon mercenaries later caused trouble but things came to a head when newly Christian Saxons in the Gregorian model opposed old Arian Christians and pagans during the time of King Penda.
>>526038600It appears German superiority has caused some controversy. The saddest part is that Englishmen will not accept their superior German roots.
>>526038671Yes, I have heard of all this.The US of the 1800s was heavily German-speaking, especially in the Midwest but also in Pennsylvania and Western New York and Ohio, where many Amish live.The two World Wars ended the German language as the second native language of the United States, sort of how Spanish is the second language of the US today.
>>526038440The various invasions into England mostly resulted in changing the aristocracy rather than the general population. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>526039145German is a nation not a tribe. It is comprised of the three tribes which formed during the Cambrian War against the Roman Republic. The Sigynnae Cimmerians, the Gothic (Getae) Ing, and the general WHG/Corded Ware general tribes the "Volk" (Teutons).
>>526038877To say Turkics are Turks is correct.
>>526039235In Texas too
>>526038957>polans and ukraine Haha jewboy
>>526038953Which just shows the Romans couldn't defend Britain by then, as the Roman Empire was too weak while the Germans were growing stronger and more advanced in social organization and technology.
>>526039104There was a civil war in Roman Briton. The Saxons and angles invaded several times before that but were beaten back. One warlord invited some Germans in and the rest did as well since they were fighting each other plus Irish and caledonians/picts. Eventually those German mercenaries backstabbed them because that’s what Germans do. Honestly they were pretty stupid and didnt care, probably thought they’d get a Roman army to help them if the saxons and angles got too powerful but Rome at that point was done for thanks to the vandals occupying their breadbasket in North Africa.
>>526039276Not really true.Historians have overestimated the Anglo-Saxon heritage of English, in that the Brythonic Celts and the Briton Euro Farmer pre-Celts are heavily represented in English genetics. But there was a heavy and major contribution of Anglo-Saxon genetics as well.
>>526039408No that's myths and false history.
>>526039383No the Germans got lucky. The Roman Empire couldn’t gotten it all back but the plague of Justinian finished it off for good in the west. At that point Germanic men just fucked all the women there except in Spain.
>>526039235Yes. Incidentally, I am from PA and where I grew up in rural southwestern PA there is a visible Amish presence and they speak a form of German that has separated from modern German (Pennsylvania Dutch (Deutsche). Being 51% of anything is pretty high for the average Amerimutt, but the people I grew up around had wayyy more German than me; they looked Teutonic as fuck and had very German last names (Americanized, of course) Snyder, Miller, Stutzman, etc.
>>526039470No it’s the truth. Germanics weren’t good at invading over seas. The vandals being the exception but only because their navy were actual Romans mad at the aristocracy. The proof for this is that the vandals were transported to North Africa from Spain by a Roman fleet.>>526039519*couldve
>>526039355Nope. My dad, where I get that slavshit from, was Roman Catholic and he literally looked like this character from Kingdom Come Deliverance.There is nothing to indicate jewishness in my DNA, family history, or phenotype.
>>526039276>The various invasions into England mostly resulted in changing the aristocracy rather than the general population. You don't know what you're talking about.Tell that to a nationalistic English historian in the 1800s. They held to the view that the Anglo-Saxons replaced the native Celts/Brits.
>>526037790Given that the Angles were a Germanic tribe, how tf would calling people Anglos obscur that heritage?
>>526039962>Tell that to a nationalistic English historian in the 1800s.LMAO. Genetic data is what's relevant regarding this topic.
>>526039314The whole German/Germanic distinction is used to obscure the German origin and identity of most Western and Northern European peoples today. Using "German" to describe only the Deutsch prevents the Norwegians, Swedes, Belgians, Dutch, Austrians etc. from being called Germans. Instead they get called "Germanic," which makes them sound pseudo-German or German in some way other than by origin and blood.All the nations of Western and Northern Europe, save Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, were born out of the German Migrations.
>>526040043Germanic men raped the British isles after being let in. The same scenario is being played out today with the future men of Britain being paternally descended from pajeets and blacks.
How does calling ourselves Anglo, a title derived from a Germanic tribe we are descendants of, obscure our Germanic roots exactly?
>>526039984People today argue that "Anglo" has broken away from its German origin and is a new identity and ethnicity.
>>526037790>Why do the English call themselves Anglos instead of Saxons?They don't. It's a Russian meme they successful spread to counter the anti-jew propaganda because Russia is a Jewish Soviet. See >>526037990
>>526041034>They don't. It's a Russian memeReminder that Alex Jones is a traitor to his race and country and fans. He also practices Kabbalah openly.
>>526041034>>526041104
>>526041034
>>526037790Because most of the angle, saxon, and jute settlers in Britain were angles, who spent most if their time prior to Wessex being the predominant power
>>526039633Anglians bro
>>526041350Mercia was Anglish and Mercia was England.
>>526037790>the AustriansDon't bring us into your random fucking thoughts
>>526041645Before that bernaccia was the big power, also angles.
>>526038571>The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes invaded BritainNot really. They were invited in as mercenaries, they did their job, and then they laid claim to certain territory when their employers didn't fulfil their end of the deal.
>>526041756The major Celtic power in England were the Cumbrian Brythons and they were allied with pagan Anglians until King Penda.Understand that and understand the secret history of England.
>>526041973>did their jobClearly they didn’t. They have history of being treacherous. Total Anglo Death.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Conspiracy
Hate colonial mutts. Simple as.
>>526041973That's a myth. What really happened is the Gothic Christian Eadwacer was brought in to replace the Roman legion with Christian Goths.He became Odacer fighting the Visigoths in the Loire valley to support the Franks, who were basically a client kingdom of Rome still.Odoacer became a champion for Christianized-Romanized Germans living within the limes and conquered Rome in their defense but Byzantium enlisted the Ostrogoths to overthrow him, only to later war on Theodoric who usurped the glory of Eadwacer.Eadwacer means, in Latin, Quaestor-Sentinel, or in modern English, Wealsightfast. The wealth being the faith. Defender of the Faith in a sense.
>>526042302Your contrived grievance and fictional history go well together.How about total non-white death?
>>526041973They were invited in as roman foederati to provide Roman law and defence, not migrate every mother fucker from the Netherlands into the Britain.
>>526037790They were the OG mutts. Celts. Romans, Saxons, Indians, African all had a turn in making those vile creatures
>>526042475But that’s what happened after they sneakily took power.
>>526042416Badon hill, faggot. Gargle my glorious dick balls and taint, Germanic barbarian :^)
>>526042593I mean not that sneakily, frankly. They did just walk over the place, and most of the settlement wasn't atrocious. The areas with significant reliance on the roman state welcomed them, the areas that were constantly in revolt against the romans got on just fine without them.
>>526037790They are not Germanic , your average English person looks more Slavic than Germanic , truth is that the English are still butt hurt about the Anglo Saxon invasion that's why they fought against Germany in both World Wars . The fact that Anglo Saxons cucked the native Bonglanders still exists in their DNA
>>526042593Many Saxons were just Belgic bandits and mercenaries. The first Saxon protectors were Gothic Christians who fled to a Christian land and replaced the legions but the Brythonic lords remained loyal to Roma.
>>526037990I've definitely seen people refer to the collective WASPy British/English/Irish diaspora throughout the Anglosphere as 'Anglos'.
>>526042729What do you call this then faggot?
>>526042729It's interesting you compare Anglo-Saxon and Celtic motifs to Slavic since they were all Royal Scythian essentially.But Romanians were not Dacian actually. The Daco-Romans is a communist myth.Romanians, while heavily Slavic, are actually - particularly Moldovans - the very early Christianized Alanian peoples. Iazyges and Roxolani. Iranic Aryans.These Aryans fled the Avar invasion to the Balkans and learned Latin from the Aromanians who were Illyrian genetically, but Romanians are more Alanian (Ossetians are pure Alan).
>>526042738The saxons are literally from a region that used to be called Saxony. It's an ethnic group. Also, they were Samaritan.
>>526042908R dna isn't Germanic, it's fuckin slavic. R1b is bronze age yamnaya, r1a is hunnic.
>>526043122No Saxons were not Sarmatian holy shit, no. Saxons were a blend of Corded Ware Slavo-Cimmerians and West Saka.Sarmatians were Turko-Slavs, East Slavs, or Iranic Alans depending.
>>526042963No, we all fucking aren't. There's a reason whatever competent britons are present always get a different ethnic group to govern the yamnaya rapebabies representing the mass of genetic waste that is the general British population. Not a constructive self governing people.
>>526043310Not saxons, the goths that went to Britain were Sarmatians. The saxons were probably from northern Germany.
>>526037790Cause they are celts
>>526043204R1a has several different sub clades associated with different ethno-linguistic groups but the Nordic subclade I feel isn’t Germanic becaude it is older than Germanic. R1b is similar in that it has several distinct lineages associated with Germanic, Celtic, and yamnaya-Balkan and middle Eastern Armenian tribes. The particular Germanic lineage is highest amongst Dutch.
>>526043204R1a is Royal Aryan (blonde hair), R1b is Getic (red hair).The Getae, as the Gutians, spread R1b heavily in Mesopotamia and Assyria to the point that Assyrian nobles brought it to Central Sahara. Scythians were mostly Getic. Massagetae etc.The R1a Aryans went from Shintashta to BMAC to India to Hanigabalt, but remained heavily in East Europe.Andronovo was more R1b.Afanasievo was R1b Yamnaya but some of the Tocharians were R1a up from BMAC.Indo-Aryans were originally R1a but R1b arrived and dominated, such that the only remained R1a are pockets in the deep Bengal. Ironically, deep brown Bengali Brahmins are the only remaining of the original R1a Aryan stock.
>>526043455Germanic in the context of pre hunnic Germans and the western Germanic admixture in the late roman period is definitely south Nordic in origin, that's the principal distinction in making between nordic and Germanic peoples vs hunnic peoples, who raped them out of central Europe into western Europe and accelerated the decentralization of western Rome like a bunch of cruel asiatic negroes.
>>526037790>Why do the English call themselves Anglos instead of Saxons?Because the Angles showed up about 600 years before the Saxons.
>>526043405No, did you watch the fuck Guy Ritchie movie or something and base dyour bullshit on that?Sarmatian was a vague title that applied to Getic Scythians and Huns alike but during its most important heyday referred to Turko-Scythian lords who led a confederation of Aryan races fleeing the Huns or following them into Europe.
>>526043547Cro magnon trash lmao
>>526043556Core Germanic lineages are accepted as basically I1 and R1b-U106 which isn’t yamnaya because yamnaya have an older clade and the last common ancestor is 5000 years old with the Germanic R1b.
>>526043556Most of the "Huns" in Western Europe were Alans, or J-haplogroup Iranicized Aryans. Today their purest remnant are the Ossetians who look very "Gallic" (i.e.: French, not necessarily the Gauls).
>>526037790>origin and identityGerman, you say?Read on, dear anon!WHO is Israel?Those who strive to steal our present and our future have already stolen our past. WE are who they claim to be. They have stolen our history, our lands, even our ancestors. On top of that, they have the audacity to label us Amalek. They trade their own position for ours. They seek revenge for what Jacob did to Esau. They think if they wear the skin of dead Israelites that God will recognize them as His true people. They act out their hatred of God for which God hates them. Then, they blame you and tell you it's God's fault. Our kin have set their seal to testify that WE are of Israelite descent in the Declaration of Arbroath.Who am I to believe, my family though long dead, or those who seek to erase my family? Am I to swear allegiance to a false race and a false god just because others refuse to hear the truth of who they are? Our people were the Scythians. Those same Scythians were renamed by the Romans as Germans, the “true” people. We will not find the roots of our race in 20th century politics. We must go back far further. We must be willing to confront lies that are over 2700 years old. The choice between religion and race is a false one, unless you choose a false history and a false god, as your (((enemies))) would prefer. True history and the true God need not be separated. Many hate the Bible, but it is the story of OUR family. It is you who prevent your people from being whole. You have to let go of the lies you love. It's time for the family reunion.https://www.youtube.com/@truthinhistory@UncoveredBiblicalHistory@TruthVids@americaspromiseministries2@YairDavidiyhttps://www.britam.org/@ShepherdChapelStudenthttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiA6kuKpn0D02ZxrOPIOQB0-Gs5VnYlMj&si=DwbNhr-cs--XU00qhttps://kinsmanredeemer.com/https://britishisrael.co.uk/https://overcomebabylon.com/statement-of-faith
>>526043635They were the huns, you git, and sarmatian roman mercenaries are so well attested for if you knew shit about dick you'd know it's par for course in late roman Britain and gaul to hire some of the various hoardes of protoslavic mongoloids to die for you. In particular, the ones from Ukraine.
>>526037790the entire western europe is just germans and hispanics
>>526043684By who? Retards? Native Germanic lines are not the slavic mongoloids that raped their way across Europe in the copper age. >>526043766Again complete bullshit. You're a fucking faggot buddy. Also, Iranians aren't haplogroup j, and basically none of the hunnic peoples were confused by romans as iranid, who they were also familiar with, and also, Alans are simply a group of huns, most of which were any various group of scythian and sarmatian with various further eastern turkic admixture.
>>526037790I'm not sure what's confusing you so much OP. Before the saxons arrived 'England' as it's now known was populated by Britons who were a Celtic people. Post-Rome they got raided the fuck out of by the Angle, and Saxon tribes.Throw in the Viking and Norman invasions after that and you've essentially got a Western European mutt with clear influences from each culture visible in the English culture, and language.I'm not sure why you consider all of those separate groups 'Germanic', they're just not.
>>526043684Yamnaya and Bell Beaker precursor basically interbred in multiple waves that went back and forth so you can't speak of one dominating the other, more that they developed together.Not so for the Latins though.Keep in mind the Latins were actually Mitanni Aryans and Myceneans who followed the last Mitanni prince Piyamiradu - who fought the Trojan War - to Alba Longa (the true Latin capital).The Etruscans (actual Trojans) built Rome as a multi-ethnic confederation between Etrurian, Latin and Sabian elites. They basically took over Alba Longa's power and usurped the Latins.Meanwhile, the Umbrians were purely Bell Beaker blond Goths. Because of Umbrian stock, many Roman aristocrats were blonde.
>>526044058The existence of the title Sarmatian proves the Romans were quite confused about steppe peoples.Also, 98% of Roman history was lost. We don't even have the Parthica for gods' sake.
>>526044058By every piece of archeogenetics currently available. R1b-U106 isn’t Slav. Anyway I1 and R1-U106 aren’t originally from Scandinavia and arrived there about 2000 bc from maybe the Baltic region.
>>526044106Sorry but I define gothic/germanic I1/R1b-U106 and Celtic R1b-P312 as clearly distinct and separate. Every geneticist in the field of archeogenetics have also come to this conclusion. Now provide evidence that Iron Age umbrians were Germanic and not Celtic and they probably weren’t Celtic either.
>>526038142The Irish are more genetically Germanic than the Germans, retard.
>>526037790Truth is that the further away you look from picrel the less True European you are simple as . BTW I'm especially talking about the facial features not just the blonde hair and blue eyes
>>526038249angles/saxons/vikings mixed with local britons (celts) and frenchmen (normans were originally from scandinavia i know, but became frenchified by the time of the conquest) . English became very diverged from other germanic languages as well. while its unquestionably germanic, its way softer/more normal due to the french influence. so they became different
>>526044262I know it isnt slav, i said it's pre slavic yamnaya, and i1 has been in Scandinavia since hunter gatherers settled the fucker. R1bs almost certainly from somewhere around Ukraine, too. It's r1a(slavic) that im referring to as slavic, and saying it's distribution is directly correlated to the expanse of the hunnic empire, the.mifrarion into Europe of turkic, hunnic, and Caucasian groups, and the massive displacements of contemporary Germanic peoples causes a multiple wave ethnic divide among "Germans" or "Germanic people" Areas of r1b conquest show that they killed all the male farmers and were semi absorbed or in britains case near totally absorbed into the cultural practices of local women. To learn more about r1a conquests, look at the fall of Rome, and the rape of Berlin. >>526044561Lmao no. The black Irish are fucking berbers from the stone age.
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>>526039145We will as soon as you accept your superior English origins.
>>526044893Normans also has a lot of Irish admixture, kinda like the icelanders. fun little fact. We also got along with bretons so we kinda were a mix of armorican breton, gallo-norman, norman-frankish, gallo-frankish, and Roman by the time of the conquest if England lmao.
>>526037790Fuck you, you piece of swine shit.t. the Jutes
>>526037790They should call themselves Sex Horns.
>>526037790>Why do the English call themselves Anglos instead of Saxons?That's just how the language worked out. For comparison, God(an) is one of Odin's names. Think about it.
>>526038357Anglo is used almost exclusively tongue in cheek and you have autism
Germans are swarthy rape babies. Anglos are white. The distinction is important.
>>526046492Saxons clearly didn't see any reason that England didn't also include them, and despite being a major leader of the English world throughout it's unification, they didn't seem to mind considering themselves English in the broadest sense. Whos to say the saxons didn't internally views themselves as a subgroup of angles?
>>526046627>Whos to say the saxons didn't internally views themselves as a subgroup of angles?Alfred the Great made it so they were perfectly able to with Guthrum's conversion. Welcoming humbled warriors into his dominion also put him head and shoulders over any potential challengers to his reign. Smart guy.
>>526037790Because Danes/Angles are more based than Germans/Saxons. Yes they are both Northern Europeans and we should all stick together (especially these days). BUT trve enthusiasts can discern the shades of White within the Northern Folk. For example**ULTIMATE MOST BASED AUTHORITATIVE WHITE POWER RANKINGS**>WORLDWIDE GLOBAL HEGEMON UNDISPUTED CHAMPIONS-TIERAnglos.*POWER GAP*>BASED BRO-TIERFinns.Dutch.Danes.Norwegians.Icelanders.*POWER GAP*>AUTIST-TIERGermans.*POWER GAP*>FAGGOT KEKOLD-TIERSw*des.Simple as.
>>526047139I hate to break it to you, but the french shit on basically everyone most of the time.
>>526047490>she wrote in English on the American internet
>>526047594Mark my words, foolish sperg, you'll find yourself under the hoof of the snail eater again. Getting mushroom stamped by the wet frank cock of defeat.
>>526047490>the french shit on basically everyone most of the timeDoesn't mean a damn thing if they surrender when things get rough.
>>526047784God damn that's such a stupid trope. You mean like when they were hegemons of Europe for hundreds of years? Oh you mean because you think you know shit about WW2, that's swell.
>>526047890>God damn that's such a stupid tropeThey will not and should not ever live it down.
>>526048117Losing WW2 and not having an island to fall back to with a miracle deliverance like Britain? They lost, you arrogant goy. Americans aren't a warrior race, youre a Jewish logistics camp, and you people haven't earned the stripes those fuckers have by a long shot.
>>526047665>>526047890The Franks were based, and Karl the Great made them an indispensable part of our story. Unfortunately, France has not been Frankish for over a thousand years. The Gauls and other Celtic riff-raff gnawed away at Karl’s legacy until all that is left in Farce are Jewish pedophiles and mosques.
>>526048463Gauls are better than whatever your fucking mystery meat is.
>>526048527Pradeep, SVP.