>Christians unironically believe that this really happenedAt this point you can believe in Zeus or fairies, same shit
It did though.
>>526063810>Christians unironically believe that this really happened>At this point you can believe in Zeus or fairies, same shit
>>526063810many atheists believe in abiogenesis so all believe in miracleseven the universe had to have causality break at some point. if anything can happen randomly and chaotically why not the sea opening in half? give me one fucking reason>zeussame religion dude, sky father, upholding order (laws of physics) and law (good and evil, rewards and punishments) with hell/hel/tartarus and heaven/valhalla/elysium
>>526063810The Ark isn’t a boat so much as a container. A vessel of continuity. When the world you recognize is dissolving, you don’t save everything. You save what carries pattern. What can regenerate. What you know how to care for. That’s true whether the flood is water, climate, culture, psyche, or time itself.In alchemical terms, it’s classic. Dissolution first. Everything broken down to the same dark soup. Then containment. Then separation. Then reemergence. Solve et coagula. The Ark is the retort. Noah isn’t a shipbuilder, he’s a keeper of coherence while everything else loses form.The animals don’t need to be read as literal species. They’re types. Instincts. Capacities. Ways of being alive. You keep pairs because relationship is how life continues. Lone traits die out. Coupled ones adapt.
>>526063981>zeus>same religion dudeThis. All European religions have the same root in Canaanite pantheon (probably something earlier than that even). The first commandment modern interpretation is that only one God exists, but it's original intent was the only Yahweh was deserving of worship over the other Gods in existence.
>>526063981Noooo it's not the same it's my super special wecial spirituality that you simply cannot understand, Zeus strike this man with a bolt of lightning!!!!!
>>526063810hey that's in the quran!
>>526063981>many atheists believe then they arent really atheists and have a false unterstanding of how the universe works.>even the universe had to have causality break at some pointit doesnt and the only people who make claims like this are usually retarded clueless jews that mistake math for reality.the math is the math and the reality is the reality, the abstraction (math) can never be the reality.
>>526063810This is the only true canon event that world has witnessed and every religion unanimously agree upon. Only sequence of events and protagonists are modified.
>>526063810Durupınar site
I think the Bible is true but mankind has lost so much knowledge we can't understand what we are reading. Everybody assumes people back then rode around on donkeys in their goatskins with herds of sheep and pottery everywhere. There is plenty of evidence that there was an advanced civilization here before us. There is evidence of a massive flood. Maybe Noah's Ark was a spaceship and the animals he collected were DNA samples. We don't know shit, very little.
>>526063810Buddhism is the only religion that isnt retarded
>>526064523Bible (OT) is plagarized form other texts. It can't be fully true.
>>526064559Buddhism is a way of life white boy. You can worship Gods while following Dharma taught by Buddha.
>>526063981The sea opening in half is a bit harder. As the universe progresses, local chaos gives way to higher-order structures, which causes material to "settle" and relax and chill out. So that means it takes increasingly higher orders of chaos to be re-introduced into the chillax higher-ordered structure in order to cause chaos once more.I think maybe you misunderstand randomness and chaos, as you can still have local order. It's just when you zoom out and compare the whole pot of events in the universe it's relatively chaotic - despite higher-ordered structures existing locally where chaos has lowered.That's your "one fucking reason." I hope that's satisfactory for you, though I'm not sure you'll agree.
>>526064458>live near river deltas>rivers floods periodically>wonder why every religion mentions a great flood that flooded the worldI don't know, maybe primitive people were idiots and when their local river flooded all the villages around them, they thought an angry god had flooded the entire world, just like they thought an angry god was throwing a fit on a cloud with lightnings?
>>526064608I didn't say the contrary.God worship is retarded and cucked btw.Imagine worshipping someone lmao...
>>526064678>imagine worshipping someone lmaoYou worship yourself, what's the difference? God is actually great, so he deserves it. Anyways, on the topic of buddhist writers, DT Suzuki is great!
>>526064523First 10 verses of Genesis laid down the main pattern. If you can't find and understand the symbolism in that then it's no use to you trying to understand and that's why the Bible has built in mechanisms for those without an inner field of view. Even ancients knew NPCs existed.
>>526063810>At this point you can believe in ZeusI do, know his daughter.
>>526064918As usual with Christians, the unexplainable utter nonsense in the Bible is explained by "symbolism" but we take other unexplainable nonsense literally (like the resurrection) until, as humans develop, more and more of the nonsense taken literally also becomes unexplainable.
>>526063957Classic christcuck's "i worship jews but if you say bad about my jew worshipping cult you are a jew" move
>>526063957
>>526063981>Same religionNo. The true God is love. I understand it's hard for people to accept that but his defining characteristics is love.We made our own path. And because he loved us, he gave us free will to be able to do that. We have an adversary that is more powerful than us, but God is more powerful than them, and he protects us because he loves us. He warned us of them and instructed us how to deal with them, because he loves us. We sinned - each and everyone of us - which separated us from this perfect loving God, and because he loves us, he gave us a way to be restored with him. So his true children could come back home. Jesus is the way, and because God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.Jesus loves you. God loves you. Stop believing the lies and stop listening to the enemy.
>>526063810>>526063957>christiansJews Christians and Muslims because it's all the same fucking religion.
>>526065111When Jesus resurrects no one recognizes him at first. Because when you transform within under the frequency of Christ you become a new person and unrecognizable to your old self. You have to actually think about these things and not just demand answers.
>>526063810>ChristiansThe Flood is literally the only thing that *all* religions agree on.
>>526064654opposite of that over time chaos becomes mroe and more in fact laws of physics shouldnt last a slogn as they do without a god and should crumble non linearly, instead according to coping atheists we have an adjusting dynamic superlaw of physics that regulates the lower ones in order to make life possible (kek)>locallylaw sof physics apply the same everywhere we observe with no change tied to distance
>>526064608>You can worship Gods while following Dharma taught by Buddha.No you can't, not in good faith. The dharma as taught by Buddha denies all gods and spirits.
>>526063810Why is there a record of a global flood spanning multiple cultures?
>>526065343Because the cataclysm is what tore our minds open. Try to imagine being unaware. No inside voice. No reflection. Then the world changes on a massive scale. All religion is steeped in remorse for that bygone time we didn't suffer.
>>526065343the biblical flood never happened, the timeline is false, the religion is false, its made up of bits of older religions.
>>526064663Not just that, the Great flood had other common recurring details as well like the architect,prophet,demigod,etc making a huge boat and saving biodiviersity. It was not just local river being flooded. Otherwise you would have such stories every year. Even animist abbos from australia have a version of that story.
>>526064678Humans worship something. God/Gods personify ideal character. So worshipping God/Gods is better than being an atheist.
>>526065285Where? Gods are respected and even worshipped in Buddhism be it thervada, mahayana or vajrayana. Only thing is that in Buddhism they are not immortal but ascended beings.
>>526063810Noah was a giant.
>>526065111did you know allah resurrects people by beating them with beef according to the quran. don't worry allah made it halal
>>526063810how do you explain this without the flood/lava ?most religions got this type of world flood in their records but call it differently.
>>526065797your mom fell off the bed
>>526065797Not just flood but the Chief Thunder God beating a world ending demonic serpent as well.
>>526063929>t retard
>>526063929I'm a Christian and I don't believe anything from the Old Testament. I only believe the Gospel
>>526066195You're not a Christian.
>>526063957>if you dont worship a jew and believe that those who bless israel will be blessed by god you're a jew
Still haven't seen the Bulgarian sperging out in this thread
>>526063810The old testament is jewish and Jesus came to tell that it was all lies.jewish lies.
>>526065343because the dates don't coincide and (by virtue of your appeal to literalism) you're too dumb to understand that a 'great flood' is an interesting metaphor for the supremacy of god.
>>526063957>"Look at this Jew defaming my epic Christian story"It's literally a story from the Torah retard. My God, Christians are so fucking stupid.
>When humans didn't have the technology to record images and sounds, God sent floods, cast down cosmic curses and plagues, and parted the seas.>When humans had the technology to record images and sounds, God suddenly became impotentWhy was God suddenly nerfed so hard Christian bros?
>>526066431if the sea opened tomorrow you would just give a scientific explanation of why it happened.
>>526063810that story is in allahs tawrat
>>526066431You pay more attention to a plant when it is in its sapling stage. Then you ignore it when it grows into a tree.
>>526066576Yes because mohammed copied those stories from banu quraiyza, ,banu qaynuqa, etc.
>>526063810wait a sec..that's not a christian book. allah wrote the torah!
>>526064903>>526065543>Everyone worships someone No, that's fucked up. You think it's normal because you do it since forever.
>>526063810this is getting weird...
>>526065618Buddhism gravitated to worshipping gods and ritualism, because these are more palatable spiritual activities to general populace than observing the three characteristics , cause and effect, etc.
>>526067198Someone, or something. You worship your intellect, which isn't very impressive.
>>526064608Budda was a White man
>>526067888>allah was jewish and wrote the torah >buddha was a white man fuckin hell this is too much...i need to go lay down
>>526067888He would have died in Bihar's heat if he was white.
>>526065132>"Saint Peter was a double agent. He changed jewish Christianity into pagan Christianity."The New Testament paints a different picture entirely. Peter is the one who has to be dragged, almost against his instincts, into the Gentile mission. He needs a vision from heaven just to enter a Gentile house, and even then he hesitates, because he has never eaten anything unclean. Acts 10 and 11 show him defending his actions to other jewish believers who are scandalized that he has eaten with "uncircumcised" men. If Peter were a “double agent” sent to paganise the faith, he would not be the man God has to shock out of his jewish scruples. He would be the enthusiastic bridge builder from day one. The text shows a devout kike whose conscience is slowly stretched by God. On top of all this, the early rabbinic world did not treat the apostles as heroes who cleverly redirected a useful sect. They murdered nearly all of them, viciously, and call them accursed to this day.>Maimonides about Jesus and Muhammad "preparing the way"A jew denying Christ and trying to equate him with Muhammad? You don't say! I do find the humor in the fact that a rabbi in the 12th century has to admit that the name of Jesus, the story of Israel, and the words of Scripture now fill the earth, and he has to reinterpret that as “preparation” for a future Davidic king. He cannot deny that the nations have in fact turned away from idols and toward the God of Israel under the name of Christ, so he calls that a stage in the jewish story.>"Christianity was a useful transition away from paganism toward monotheism” and “an intermediary stage to wean idolators"Modern rabbis repeating what the 12th century rabbi said in an attempt to rewrite history. Wow! I've already hit the character limit for this post and don't see a reason to break down more of this jewish jibber jabber.
>>526067198Its not fucked up, you subconsciously idealize something. Doctrine of Fascism very accurately identify it. Without God you get morally bankrupt communist societies.
>>526067540Buddha gave a tradition which went against traditional practices and Vedas. But Gods were never rejected. I don't know who propogated that false narrative.
>>526063810Jesus was a jew and would have been thrown in the oven like the rest.
>>526069467Jesus Christ is the living Lord, who is Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the flesh.
Many different cultures talk of a great flood People lived a lot longer before it too
>>526069553You are a wannabe jew with a mutilated penis and would have been thrown in the oven like the rest.
>>526063957"Worship the jew or else you're a jew" has never been a good argument
>>526069815>im so b- b- based and goypilled that im gonna do as the jews do and deny ChristCongratulations, enjoy the lake of fire.
>>526069880Rejecting Christ/God is their entire theology though so yeah you're spiritually jewish if you reject Christ. It must be a difficult truth for someone like you, which is why you are the way you are.
>>526068985>The New Testament paints a different picture entirely.>excuse me guy, if you don't think the bible is true, it says it's true right here on page 15 of the bible
>>526070431You don’t have to believe the New Testament is inspired to see that it is our earliest evidence for what Peter was like. Every text we have from the first century shows him as a kike dragged into the Gentile mission. Take it up with the rabbi who is trying to cite The New Testament (which his theology inherently rejects) and distort it for his own jewish ends.
>>526063957Jews hate the true pagans so much
>>526070012You're also spiritually Jewish if you accept rabbi jeshua
>>526063981Causality break happened before our universe. Retard.
>>526064458It's actually like 4 civilizations
>>526064918First ten verses of the bible are also stolen
>>526071015>erm ackshually ur jewish!No. I reject the Talmud, the influence of the evil one, Satan, their father, and recognize the living Lord Jesus Christ as God.
>>526064903>If you don't worship the foreskin god YHWH, then you worship YOURSELF!Christcucks have never proved even this basic axiom
>>526065618No lying poos
>>526071346Well I mean, look at the slop you're spewing right now. That only comes from self worship. You prove it every time you enter into one of these exchanges. And man is it pathetic.
>>526066195I'm glad that being a christgolem means literally anything
>>5260711191. Sumers2. Us3. Hellenic4. Zoroastrian5. Semites6. Abbos7. Native American Chyenne8. BabyloniansHow many more do you need?
>>526071504That thing isn't Christian.
>>526064663The salient detail of the Flood myth is the construction of the ark and the saving of animals/plants, not the part about the water.This detail certainly doesn't come from river deltas flooding.
>>526069553Insert alex jones gif
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>>526071223>No. I reject the jew, the influence of the jew, desert demon shaytaan, their jew, but recognize the living Lord jew as Jew.
>>526071611Queers want to be special. They have no real identity other than been queer. Same reason trannies flock to electronic music, punk and black metal. The latter two are also easy to make.
>>526063957This merchant caused so much kike butthurt
>>526071421How do I worship myself? Do I pray to myself like jeshua? Do I make sacrifices for myself? Everyone does that
>>526071611Should I start posting faggot pastors? Let's see who runs out first
>>526071605Half of them share the same myth because they stole it and abos can't even remember what happened yesterday, let alone big petrol flood
>>526071504Damn no wonder so many feminists hate trans women, she mogs 95% of cis females lmao.
>>526063810Statistically orders of magnitude more likely than canonical ww2.
>>526071925You don't actually want to play that game because you know the answer, and all homosexuals who proclaim themselves to be Christians are lying, inherently unchristian lechers. Can homosexuals be saved? Sure. But they have to stop butt fucking and recognize how horrible of an act they were engaging in, which 95% of them will never do. God is pretty clear that homosexuality is an abomination, whereas the jewish faith is the origin of the transsexual abomination.>>526071991>>526071925I'm going to allow you to continue seething at rapid fire now.
>>526071991Nobody stole it, the younger religions merely adopted the lore from their predecessors. The flood and thunder God killing Serpent demon myth is too widespread in the old world to be just a myth.
>>526072028>this posted is a faggotSurprise! Hahahahahaha
>>526072153Why is being gay evil? Mentally ill? Sure
>>526065797Pangaya is there where its always been and earth is a stationary plane, you just can't go there because the governments of the world will dispatch jets to annihilate you just like you can't go to the north pole because again it's very different from what you have been told it is.Wait a second? The governments of the world are actually one government? They work together? What?>And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.>And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.>all the kingdoms of the world>All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give itWOAW i knew i read that somewhere.
>>526063810theres no point trying to reason with people who reached a belief unreasonably
>>526072354Devil is fake.
>>526072354>you just like you can't go to the north poleRetard, it's because they accidentally killed Santa Claus and don't want anyone to find out.
>>526071925>religion explicitly rejects faggoty>that's a feature of that religionWhy can't atheists logic?
>>526063810Your mind is so molted you cant imagine a God that created the world and all in it, to fit some animals on a boat for a couple of months? Let the spirit of the antichrist leave your body.
>>526066195Unironically not a Christian.You are what is known as a wolf in sheep's clothes.“He replied, ‘Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.'”
>>526072221Found the ugly masculine terf kek. How does it feel a biological male is more women that you could ever be?
>>526063957>if you don't study torah and take it literally you're jewishWhat?
>>526063810It did, just not how any religious text states. It's a passed down memory from the Younger Dryas impact.Every culture has a flood myth. Why? Because it happened. The Ark is from over 10,000 years ago. Before modern man / religion. Possibly people from Atlantis. Maybe, maybe not.
>>526072153>God is pretty clear that homosexuality is an abominationHow? Did it tell you?
>>526072710>he actually believes itstupid fucking kike
>>526063810>unironicallyDepends on the number of layers.
>>526064559>MY religion is good>MY religion makes sense>MY beliefs are reasonable>MY way of life is superiorPowerful.
>>526063810I believe in the flood even if it wasn’t exactly as in the story.Gilgamesh also mentions a flood and he meets Noah to ask him for the secret to eternal life.
>>526072542Germanic and slavic pagans drowned faggots in the bogs. Romans carried degenerates to the sea
>>526066296jews never reply to the truths they can't refute
>>526072710Why didnt he just create all animals again? Why didnt he just kill all wicked people without a flood? Why did a shitload of animals have to die except for a select few if its humans that are at fault? What happened to all the plants and trees?
>>526066296Thats not what he did though.
>>526064559>Buddhism is the only religion that isnt retardedits pretty autistic tho, Christians have Agape
>>526073462This, but unironically and about Christianity >no king nonsense, God calls the idea retarded and He is proven right>God recognized letting stuoid humans execute His Perfect Law will only result in abuse and incompetence, tells them to stop>based and just God knows he should expect more from his followers and even more from their teachers, is ready to punish them accordingly >God wants to put his saints on thrones alongside His to boss around the Angels together >resolves the problem of evil by promising Life Eternal because any natural number divided by INFINITY is zero>since He can grant Life Eternal He recognizes there's no point in punishing truly remorseful as He knows they will repay all their victims on their own>He also promises being more forgiving and more rewarding towards the suffrage There are 3000 "gods" and not a single one can compete with God
>>526073509>still doesn't understand logicSadRomans had faggot emperors. Whole cultures of pagan faggotry in Greece, etc.Can you show the passage of pagan slavic scripture that rejects faggots?
>>526071015Race is irrelevant to Christ. This is the part that buckbreaks the kike and the wignat larping faggot alike. It’s nice to know that you have literally anything but Jesus mentalities because it plain as day explains how simplistic this clusterfuck between gentiles and kikes is. You think the same, believe different things and are only physically different. You even behave the same (monolith cultures) and yet you pretend like the difference is night and day despite both of you dialectically playing right into one another. Kikes are chained to gentiles and vice versa and you deserve it. Lol, lmao.
>>526066296>jew say jews lieironic
>>526066560because their most like would be one...
>>526066195>I don't believe anything in Tanakh, I just believe shit that constantly quotes itHow's that work?
>>526066560>nigga doesn't understand that a miracle is exactly something with no natural explanationAm I in Muhammed's favorite thread?
I had the typical anti-Christian militant phase once I realized Christianity is bullshit (just like every other religion). But now, from an older perspective, I realize that it's better to support Christianity than materialism.Whites have nothing left. European pagan religions and natsoc are dead outside of obscure corners of the internet. Yes, Christianity is sub-optimal to say the least, but it's way better than any other viable alternative. Do the world a favor, go to your local church, LARP as a Christian the best you can, find a white wife and have white kids if you're white.
>>526070012>rejecting Jewish filth=spiritually Jewish >worshipping a Jew and considering their disgusting scripture holy=totally not spiritually JewishFuck off
>>526063810I do believe in Zeus. Of course. I am Him.
>>526070954Based old gods enjoyer
>>526074105>semitic nonsense silence, jew worshipper
>>526066431>When humans didn't exist, we could see thousands of species becoming other species>Now that humans exist, we haven't recorded a single instance of this shapeshifting happeningWhy is no one evolving?>i- it takes 2058194919384849129 million years bro!!Dicks in your ass, subhuman.
>>526074785> find a white wife and have white kids if you're white.Sorry I only breed nonwhites, white woman are inferior in every way.
>>526063810Nearly every culture on earth believes this happened, and has a very similar story. Sorry that you’re retarded
Serious question, why do people waste their time arguing with religious folk? How can you possibly ever win an argument or convince someone of anything when they simply deem themselves correct 100% of the time?To be able to argue you at least need the opposing parties to accept that they MAY be wrong. Christians, Islamists etc effectively deem themselves impossible to be wrong. Their scripture is 100% truth, and all your arguments that counter that (no matter how objectively solid and evidence based) are simply wrong as per their view.
