>>526073288
Look up the Ancient Greek concept of Xenia you fucking dunce, only a festering basement troll would think the idea of hospitality to strangers is some kind of Jewish subversion and not just variations of basic human decency

>>526073288
CBP protects the border. So it wouldn't change the border. Different agency.

Retard doesn't know that ICE and Border Patrol are different orgs
You should be mad that with triple the budget (at your tax expense), a funding amount that rivals most other nations militaries, he still can't out deport Biden or Obama

>>526073687
It's two different things. Most of the protestors also want no borders.

>>526073632
I will not. Stay mad nigger

>>526073288
that quote means foreigners were held to the same legal code as native born Israelites. meaning worshipping other gods, engaging in homosexual relations, committing adultery, etc carried the death penalty for them the same as natives while they were in the land.

Alternatively, keep the border as-is, but don't have fat gestapo killing US citizens or violating the constitution? Kek. Americans when they attempt anything but black-and-white thinking.

>>526073804
Who would think that marching around in a convoy with long guns out in tactical gear in a city you announced your presence in a month ahead of time would be a bad tactic for surprising and catching people.

>>526073288
How about you just send ICE to states with actual immigrant problems instead of some random state just because Trump has a grudge against Walz?

>>526074075
Most illegals are in Texas, Georgia, New Mexico, and Arizona. These are all red states or swing states that Trump can't piss off. That's why he is looking for Mexicans in Minnesota, which has like none, as you notice he hasn't caught any somalians are there are only like 50k of them and they are unfortunately legal.

>>526074075
We do have ice in Texas bro.

>>526073288
KIRDBLT

>>526073804
You need to work on your reading comprehension

>>526073288
No one is arguing for an open border. People want a secure border and to make it easier and more controllable to get here legally. That's what all of this is about -- to make our immigration policy sane and functional. My wife is an immigrant and I can tell you from personal experience that the entire process is stressful, full of mandatory loopholes, and so complex as to need a lawyer.

>>526074345
Clearly not to that level. Definitely much more ice per capita in minnesota

>>526073288
>"I bet Schlomo Steinberg said that"
>It was indeed Schlomo Steinberg.

>>526074242
there is ice in texas and mexican do cry about. see you don't hear about it because red states have taught their communist dipshits that they will be shot for doing so

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>>526073288
Our native born get fewer privileges and are held to a higher standard when it comes to obeying the law.

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>>526073288
Here, the same John who was commanded to write Revelation clears this up.
>Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds. 2 John 1:9-11

>>526074075
Minnesota has a massive immigrant problem, though.
>>526074242
The red states actually cooperate with ICE, and also don't have multi-billion dollar fraud schemes ripping off the tax payer.

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>>526073632
>Look up the Ancient Greek concept
I did and found this

>>526074608
So muslims are not okay but mexicans are mandatory
And white atheists are forbidden

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>>526074500
>per capita
Uh oh, it thinks it's learning.

>>526074704
They are 82% white and not even in top 20 by illegals per capita, although that data is from 2024

>>526074242
>he's looking for Mexicans in Minnesota
They're in Minnesota because of the Somali Fraud crisis. Any "legal" migrant who is guilty of fraud loses their "legal" status by virtue of being a criminal. There's a lot of Somali illegals in Minnesota. Probably some spics too who need rounded up.

>>526074493
>No one is arguing for an open border
You don't have a border if you can't enforce immigration law.
>People want a secure border
Ok. Deporting illegals is a part of securing the border
>to make our immigration policy sane and functional
How does impeding ICE help you achieve this? Shouldn't you be protesting the policies and signing petitions and so on?
>the entire process is stressful, full of mandatory loopholes, and so complex as to need a lawyer.
Ok? ICE has nothing to do with this.

>>526074782
Sure but that is what IRS and regular police do, not ICE. ICE is only there to piss Minnesotans off because it is a blue state while ICE are republicans so they do their best to bother even citizens there
>send IRS to investigate the fraud
>detain those who are guilty
>hand them to ICE
??

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>>526074714
>Mexicans are mandatory
No, but they're more maleable than the average Muslim and white atheists are born here, not imported. You're the same Serb seething in the other thread, aren't you?

Unity, peace, and love! Surely there won't be bad actors looking to steal everything they possibly can from us, we don't have a high standard of living even for some of the most bum-fuck shitters imaginable in this country's boarders.

>>526074608
Yeah... "Whoever does not take care of his own first, and especially those of his own house, has denied the faith and is worse than an infidel"

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>>526074895
Oh you are definitely that same Slovenian, not Serb, sorry. You're all the same really, right?

>>526074908
>the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting
The Mexicans do bring this teaching. So?

>>526073288
have you considered having state law enforcement trail ICE to deal with what ICE is not meant to deal with?

>>526074958
Are catholicism and orthodoxy the same?
Croats and Serbs killed each other over this several times and the Church always egged them on. Muh Christian unity

>>526073288
You don’t have to give them exactly what they want, but isn’t it a little bit retarded to pretend it’s that or sucking off glowniggers?

How about we enforce the laws we have and prosecute hiring and renting to illegals?

What if ICE is as actually trying to get Immigrants out instead of pretending you can throw millions of people into vans one at a time picked up from Walmart?

Why is NuPOL incapable of critical thinking?

What happens when the Dems get power and decide to change the directives of ICE as opposed to abolishing it?

Lots of new antisemitism laws passing these days and the FBI still considers White right wing males the biggest threat to the nation…

>>526074867
Is deporting illegals really part of securing the border? Isn't the border on the southern edge of the US? The Mexican border seems pretty far from, e.g., Minnesota.

You have to understand, leftists are like cancer or a parasite. All they want is to advance their prime directive but it comes at the cost of killing the host. Every stage of advancement for the left is an inch closer to death, and there is always a new organ to fail, a new symptom to develop. When you ask “what next” that’s what’s next. It’s a continuing slide into sickness and suffering until we all die.

>>526075035
Not most of them, no. Most of them are Godless spicanos who are here to extract resources and send them home to Mexico. You'd think that the Catholic NGOs resettling them (and Muslims, and Hindus, etc.) would try to convert, but they don't. Thankfully in 2025, all federal programs associated with NGOs resettling migrants were ended, dealing a nasty blow to the Catholic Church resettlement industry, much to their chagrin. We're talking many billions of dollars they were used to receiving instantly being cut off.

>>526075125
You think everyone that's here illegally literally hops the physical border? Are you fucking retarded?

>>526073632
This is also completely retarded.

Only a complete fucking moron or lying scum bag would pretend letting infinity browns in to leach off of our country “hospitality”

NOBODY has a problem with sharing a meal or the roof for the night (think tourism) this is very different then calling them American and giving them everything for free…

Again there is a middle ground but people like OP and this guy are determined to stay on the fringes and pretend their is no other options.

>>526073288
How dare you read the bible to me you gaythiest satanic pagancuck. You are citing it out of context and aggressively mister understanding it. No I haven't read it either and never will, but I am sure the Bible supports what I imagine is in there"

>>526075234
Okay, but I said that a secure border is important. You said in response that ICE in the heartland deporting people is securing the border. I said in response that the border is pretty far from Minnesota. In response, you asked me if everyone here illegally comes over the border directly which, while true, strikes me as irrelevant unless we redefine "the border" as... the entire US? Does that make sense to you?

>>526075197
Catholicism is Christianity and they are Catholics. They are the most devout Catholics in the western hemisphere by far

>>526073288
Infinite niggers until white people cease to exist

>>526075093
>Are catholicism and orthodoxy the same?
Good question, no.
>Muh Christian unity
You should read about what Byzantine did to the Coptics after the Council of Chalcedon. In my opinion, it played a major part in paving the way for Arab domination of Egypt/Arabia.

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>>526075395
>they are the most devout catholics in the western hemisphere by far
That statement is laughable. I wouldn't take you, a non-Christian, to judge a people's level of "devoutness." There is much solace to be found in the fact that the founders of this country understood the menace that is the Catholic Church. The modern Catholic Church is seething that the gibs were shut off. That's all their affinity for the Mexicans boils down to. The Catholic Church has a direct financial interest in swinging the mass-migration sentiment back to "everyone and anyone can immigrate and settle here," because they have made tens of if not hundreds of billions of dollars on establishing a robust network of NGOs which would resettle migrants in not just our country, but all western countries.

>>526074895
>Illegals defraud the fuck out of the system for years
>IRS does nothing because it's hard to track and untangle without putting feet on the ground to investigate
>Local law enforcement inside big city has too much shit to deal with already so papers get shuffled to the side.
>ICE is told to find illegals
>Gets a tip about somali scam ring
>Busts it up and kills two birds with one stone
I don't see the problem.

>>526075369
Obviously I understand you're equivocating to make it appear as though you don't support open birders. So in your mind, securing the border just means stopping guys from hopping the Rio Grande to pick vegetables? If they come over here on a Visa and refuse to leave we should just say "ah well fuck it, you got past the border enjoy your new life"? Do you understand that enforcing a nation's sovereignty entails more than building a wall? Do you think this is some kind of game where if you get past the goal keeper you should just be allowed to continue to break the law without any recourse?

>>526075712
You are as devout as you are intolerant of different religions and/or no religion. And Mexicans will kill you
They have the Spanish Inquisition gene

>>526073288
>Simping for some fat retarded dyke for a solid week and pulling out flat earth retarded cope for how being hit by a car isn't assault
>Pull out the old "actually you supported this not me haha fuck these guys am I right lets talk about religion (specifically christians) again"
You're not fooling anyone, jewish shill
Especially when you'll flip back to LEFTISTS ARE BASED AND WHITE HIITLER WOULD'VE LOVED THAT OBESE DYKE ACTUALLY at a drop of a hat again

>>526075753
ICE is there because Trump sent them there. He could equally send IRS there as the IRS is more than capable of putting boots on the ground

>>526075876
I guess I just don't see the need for ICE in the first place. The least disruptive -- socially, economically, and precedentially -- to grant amnesty to people without criminal records, keep the border locked down, and overhaul our residency application process. ICE is an undertrained, overempowered agency which has no specific training in how to interact with citizens, and they're getting into more and more conflicts with citizens.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that I'm arguing in favor of open borders because I've told you the exact opposite -- three times now.

As an aside, it would also be great to strengthen the value of citizenship. Free healthcare, free education, guaranteed housing, etc. -- all of it gated behind citizenship. I think a primary cause of all the immigrant hate is that citizens see them getting everything citizens get. It's not that citizens get a lot, for the record -- it's that we get so little that our society helps us just barely more than someone who came here illegally.

>>526076245
>More than capable
Only if it's normal citzens who misreport or make a mistake on their taxes. Anyone else is free to do as they please.

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>>526076128
>Mexicans will kill you
Have you ever heard of the Mexican American war? Did you not witness what happened to Maduro a few weeks ago? You're chimping out again, Slovak.
>In barely a year and a half, United States forces won repeated field victories, seized key northern territory, then landed at Veracruz in March 1847 and marched inland to capture the Mexican capital about six months later. The treaty that ended the war followed soon after, signed in February 1848, sealing gains that had been militarily settled long before.
Reminder that we could have taken more than half of Mexico but Polk's negotiator was a retard.

>>526073288
their main objective is to bring white men to their knees. the "white reckoning" transcends all other goals and preferences for the modern left. opening the floodgates is an entirely nonsensical and destructive decision that only provides a quicker path to right wing submission
they will trash their own society to own the chuds epic style

>>526076392
Mexico was already Christian by then

>>526073804
>>526073687
>>526073632
The quote is sojourners which translates to guest staying temporary, not foreign invaders
And Jesus literally says those that climb over the wall instead of using the gate are criminals

Anyways none of this matters cause people will just read the op image and think it's real even if corrected

>>526076326
>I'm not sure where you get the idea that I'm arguing in favor of open borders
Probably from the fact that you want to grant amnesty to everyone? If they can just come over here and overstay their visa the physical border is irrelevant. How do you not understand this? If you're against enforcing immigration law you are for open borders.
>As an aside, it would also be great to strengthen the value of citizenship
How do you not understand that granting blanket amnesty to people that are a net drain on the economy conflicts with this goal? At this point I'm convinced this is an elaborate troll.

>>526073632
>>526073912
>>526076831
>I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other means, is a thief and a robber.
>When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you

>sojourn
>noun; a temporary stay.
>verb; stay somewhere temporarily.

>One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

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>>526076819
Mexico was Catholic, you meant to say. You were proudly stating that earlier. What, Spanish Inquisition blood and all? They got beat the fuck out, just like you are right now.

>>526076924
>If they can just come over here and overstay their visa the physical border is irrelevant.
But Trump has closed the border. Crossings are at like a twenty or thirty year minimum. As long as we aren't getting millions of immigrants a year... what's ten or twenty thousand in a country of 350m and growing? I'm not sure why you're still insisting that closing the border is impossible -- it's functionally closed already.

One time amnesty for everyone here right now
>Strengthen of the border
>Strengthen of citizenship (amnestees aren't citizens, by the way) via expanded benefits
>A sensical, functional system for granting residency permits.

It's not that complicated. I guess it's marginally more complex in theory than "round em all up!" which can be understood by a toddler, but really... for a nation that pretends to be the best in the world, surely you can imagine how this policy might be superior for literally everyone, right?

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>>526077268
>One time amnesty for everyone here right now
No. We tried that with Reagan and it only emboldened more people to fraud their way into our country. Now people like you, and them, are waiting for people to throw their hands up in the air and say "well, shucks, you guys win! They are entitled to everything." That's not happening this time around, and you can seethe and shit your pants all you want about it, but there are many millions of frauds who will be deported or die trying to fight against it.

>>526077445
>We tried that with Reagan and it only emboldened more people to fraud their way into our country
The idea is to make compliance more attractive than noncompliance. The best way to do this is to make it easy and quick to apply for a work permit and then maintain the border security stance Trump has proven is possible. I don't agree with much of what he's done but he has proven beyond any doubt that it is 100% possible to secure the border. If we then overhaul the immigration system (for real this time -- Reagan fucked the pooch there) and enhance benefits for citizens only, we're cooking with gas.

>>526076980
Catholics are Christian are they not?

>>526073288
Globoabrahomo.

>>526076980
Also didn't know Patton was that retarded. Nazis hated modernity, yet he thinks they are the only modern state? Interesting indeed

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>>526078858
>The idea is to make compliance more attractive than noncompliance.
It's a stupid idea. We are too far gone demographically and it must be corrected. Most of the work visas are unnecessary and can be ended outright. The "migrants" that immigrated here 1965-2025 knew what they were doing, they themselves for years giddily described how unbelievable it was that we prioritized them over our own citizens, and here you are seeking to prioritize them over the regular American yet again.
>if you like make them legal, then it's all good!
>then we can actually respect the sovereignty of our country
There will be no amnesty, especially your twisted idea of it.

>>526073288
>Like what's the plan?
Total muttification, brownification, pozzification CLOACA GENTIUM
Masses of mutts ruled and exploited by elites.

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>>526079033
>>526079150
Hey slimy-jew, this Nordanon posed you a question in another thread you're spewing your slop in. Explain pic from your supposed home-country.

>>526073288
so we need to stop asking foreigners to come to court 6 months later and just throw them in jail for not having documentation?

>>526079217
It's not at all a stupid idea -- it's just an idea which allows nonzero immigration from people who have a different skin color. That's what all of this is ultimately about, right? It's why the idea of strengthening citizenship benefits just bounces right off you without even registering. It's not about material conditions or economic success -- it's just about getting rid of brown people.

It's your right to have that idea, for the record. If you think I'm making a moral argument on /pol/, you're solely mistaken. I'm just sick of all the disingenuous, surreptitious bullshit where you pretend you're some kind of keyed-in, aware policy guy who just wants the best for America. You want brown people gone. Just fucking say it instead of trying to keep up this insipid kayfabe.

>>526079371
Never saw it. Anyway the collaborators lost hard and were only there because they were paid reichmarks. There was about 35.000 patriots and 15.000 Germanophiles most of whom were paid. That is not counting the disgruntled chetnik factions who fought the nazis, contributing further to the patriot side

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>>526079704
Well given that the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 removed preferences for migrants of Western European origin and remains the only reason why our immigration system has preferences for non-whites, yes, I do want a lot of brown people who should have never been allowed into this country to begin with gone. I am very open and honest about this, they have no business here and they know it, loudly said it for years, and now it's time to correct that as even the staunchest leftists are now immigration oriented. They are not slave stock, they are entitled to none of the rights they inherited in the aftermath of the Civil War, and we have no reason to make concessions to people who have pilfered the country for decades. What shitty AI are you using, btw?

>>526073288
>something something talks
>something something more bureaucracy

>>526079997
That's all I'm asking for -- lead with your priors instead of trying to argue these transparently clueless policy positions. Just like I'm not equipped to debate you from within the theodicy of racism (and frankly have no interest in it) you aren't equipped to talk policy. Stay in your lane and we're good.