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Europe has a bigger military than the US if you count manpower, industry, and combined budgets.

Discuss
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>>526152118
We must unite with Russia and China to destroy anglo-judeoism once and for all.
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How many Spanish conquered how many natives
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>>526152118
But how come the european spend less than the US on defence, if their military is bigger?
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>>526152216
Yes please
Jews have destroyed Australian culture. Can't say anything without risk of jail. I hope all kikes are slain in a REAL holocaust and how
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>>526152221
Europe spends less because it doesn’t run its military like a profit engine.
The US pays for layers of contractors, lobbyists, and shareholders behind every soldier. Europe uses uniformed personnel instead of outsourcing everything, buys simpler gear, and doesn’t maintain a globe-spanning empire of bases and carrier groups.
Bigger force, lower cost because fewer parasites per soldier.
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which is true?

A) USA is independent

or

1) USA takes its orders from Israel and/or has to get permission from Israel
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>>526152118
This short circuits the migger mind
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>>526152216
>be german under turkish occupation
>cry like a bitch for 4 years about russia
>US annexes some islands (they REALLY LOVE remote islands)
>Russia now best friend

Lol, why would russia and china align with you again ? are you that retarded... no no, my turkish european. THEY WILL FUCKING RAPE YOU
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>>526152118
Literally just made up every number except the population. If you actually had that, we wouldn't have been bitching about your pathetic military spending the last decade. Dumb faggots.
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>>526152118
This is counting the armed forces of countries like Greece, Bulgaria, Hungary, Albania, Portugal, etc., all of which could be described charitably as ‘laughable’. People have no idea how much resources the USA dedicates to ensuring it has the biggest dick in the global cock measuring stakes.
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>>526152118
navy numbers are misleading, USN is stronger than all european navies x2 atleast. European ships are frigates, corvettes and small diesel subs, USN has destroyers, nuclear powered aircraft carries and nuclear subs(both attack and balistic)
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>>526152118
even North Korea defend itself from US, and Cuba
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>>526152118
Now show number of nukes
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>>526152867
Most of the EU fighters will be bricked by the pentagram as well by a line or two in the source code.
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>>526152526
Circumcision is proof that America is a puppet state. No same person would rape their child like that. Only a severely retarded cult nutter would harm their child like that.
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>>526152221
Anon, on paper North Korea has a bigger military.
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>>526152118
It doesn't matter because it won't happen. What happened in Venezuela doesn't translate to what is possible in case of Greenland, Europe or anything.
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>>526152964
>muh nooooks
Russia has more nukes than anyone else, that makes them the strongest global superpower
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how many of those EU soldiers are conscripts?
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>>526152950
north korea are god tier fighters. 10000 fought in ukraine yet were never seen.
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>>526152965
yeah that too. EU would need over a decade to catch up to US armed forces. EU has greater industrial potential and manpower than USA but it spent decades scratching it's ass
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Euros in 2022:
>wahhh USA help us Russia is invading Europe we're too weak
Euros in 2026
>USA could never stand up to the combined might of Europe in Greenland

The reality Europe is the sick man on global affairs and is going to get carved up and hollowed out. If you had an ounce of shame or common sense you'd sell us Greenland with a smile. All this empty posturing just underscores how weak and stupid your leaders are.
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>>526153035
certainly makes you afraid to fight them
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>>526153086
I have heard they go there just to be able to watch porn, getting really crazy with that
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>>526153075
A Finnish conscript is vastly superior to a US army grunt
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>>526152526
>mutilated and branded at birth like a slave
The latter, obviously.
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>>526152118

We can't have an armed citizenry, because of the pedo monarchies and class system. So Europe will always be vulnerable to invasion. Americans have the means to clean house if they want to.
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>>526153160
>wahhh USA help us Russia is invading Europe we're too weak
When did anyone ever say this? The Biden admin actively chose to send Ukraine assistance because it thought keeping Russia weak and out of Europe was beneficial to US interests.
Now the US has withdrawn its support for Ukraine, EU has stepped up its support.
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>>526152526
is this even a question? i would die 6 million deaths for best ally
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>>526153160
>yurop is le sick man
Peak irony.
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>>526152118

>active military 2.5 million

They will fuck up and surrender everything, while a civilian militia can keep on fighting. Individuals decide when to stop shooting the enemy.
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>>526153207
what a feels > reals statement. finnish conscription is just adult boy scouts.

thats the problem with euro militaries, they are all soul and no substance.
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>>526153035
That's funny. You think they all work. The US has had two major and expensive referb programs for their entire arsenal since the end of the cold war. Russia hasn't done shit except try to replace their ancient liquid fuel rockets with a new model that constantly blows up. Their warheads have been rotting and they sold all their spare pits to us in the 90s.
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>>526152118
>>526152216
I like how euros were chimping for years about muh Urakine then forget all about them, top kek. What happened to your bitching about killing all the Russians? Now suddenly all of Europe is up in arms over an island that serves you no purpose. All to maintain an image of a "strong united Europe". This is our Hemisphere now, stay in your lane.
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>>526153605
nice copeaganda
Putin’s top priority has been making sure Russia’s nukes work
Look at how badly Oreshniks (nuclear capable) have been fucking up Ukraine
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>>526152118
first, this is counting Russia and other non-NATO countries too for some reason. you can halve the population and manpower.
second, a lot of our equipment is American-made which will be a serious liability if we become enemies.
when Romania joined the Entente in WW1 we had serious issues because a lot of our guns were Austrian and they wouldn't send us parts or ammo anymore. the US could do 100 times worse to Europe.
and lastly, like some others mentioned, European navies are a joke, even the once mighty Royal Navy. all of them combined cannot challenge a single US Navy carrier group.
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>>526153774
why would he be using them for such a lame purpose if it wasnt some kind of crude posturing?
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>>526153567
I assure you nordic soldiers are more capable and better trained than your sub 80 iq niggers.
Ever heard of the Winter War? Finns dont fuck around.
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>>526153681
Europe wants all the benefits of being an American vassal state with none of the costs.

I don't see enough people talking about this, but the entire post-WW2 order was designed by internationalists on the assumption an American populist would never win power. And for about 80 years they were right. The reason Trump is so despised is he upturns the entire system by no longer subordinating American interests to Europeans.
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>>526152118
>Guys being in the French Army, and the UN Security forced means your two people
You're a silly billy.
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If this is true, why is the United States dramatically more powerful than all of them combined. Why do they exclusively purchase US-made weapons and aircraft while failing to create anything local? Why is NATO incapable of handling Islamic pirates while the US has to travel across the entire planet to save EU shipping routes from them? Why is the US the sole provider of (useful) arms to Ukraine? Why is the US the one that had to put Iran down?

The answer is because quality matters. NATO forces were designed to big trenches and deter a war against a third-world nation. The US would shit down Macron's throat before everyone else scattered and begged for forgiveness.
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>>526154038
Why are you retarded?
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>>526152221
their technology sucks nigger dick in comparison
technically iran has one of the biggest militaries in the world, that didnt stop the US from bombing them with their spirit bombers lmao
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>>526154038
I'd also add that the U.S. is absolutely unmatched in its ability to plan and coordinate operations. The mistake the Russians made is they assumed on-paper superiority would translate to victory. So they went in with a dogshit invasion plan and fucked up three of their four lines of attack. Now here we are four years later.

The idea Europe could effectively coordinate a military op on such a scale is pretty out there
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>>526152216
Ossispaten.
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>>526152216
The UK will implode before that eventuality, so im onboard
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>>526152118
>Fight aircraft
>2000-2200 vs 2600-2700
A quick check gives me 2455 US Jet combat aircraft including Harriers, F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22 and F-35.
Canada - 95
UK - 141
Norway - 52
Sweden - 97
Finland - 60
Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania - 0
Denmark - 47
Portugal - 28
Spain - 58
France - 186
Belgium - 48
Netherlands - 49
Germany - 226
Poland - 81
Czech republic - 28
Slovak republic - 10
Italy - 189
Slovenia - 0 (i'm not counting combat prop planes)
Hungary - 12
Croatia - 12
Romania - 67
Bulgaria - 35
Greece - 217
Turkey - 258
Total - 1996 this is only counting active not orders
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>>526155062
Fighter jets, much like tanks, are useless in modern warfare. Just look at Ukraine.
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>>526152118

That's cool, we'll just nuke you to death lol
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>>526152118
>Europe has a bigger military than the US if you count manpower, industry, and combined budgets.
>Discuss
Are we counting mothballed Aircraft, Ships, and Submarines?
Wasn't the UK lucky to have 1 of its 4 nuclear submarines in the water?
It costs a lot of money to maintain and crew all that shit, if you are not willing to give up your healthcare to fund that stuff than don't talk about the USA.
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>>526153919
Exactly. They just don't want to play ball and are upset now that our country is turning off the gibs.
We literally get into WW2, save their asses. And then give them a boatload of money to rebuild. And they still aren't happy. They complain about needing protection and weapons; then say what close allies we are. Then the next second they are scolding us and openly taunting us because we are priotritizing our own country.

PAX AMERICANA time. Fuck em.
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>>526155227
>Just look at Ukraine.
How ? You only see kremlin bots and NZFO troon videos.
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TOTAL NATO DEATH
TOTAL PISSRAEL DEATH
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>>526153033
This
>invade jungle fucker nation
>take one guy and leave
>oil companies won't go in because it's too hot for them
>now we're gonna TAKE GREENLAND

First of all, does Trump know that Greenland is the Icy one and Iceland is the Green one?
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>>526155227
fighter jets and artillery are likely the cause of most deaths in ukraine. yes drones did not come even close to that title.
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>>526155528
We will all hold you down and fuck you in the mouth forever. Open wide.
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>>526155062
>Sweden - 97
every family gets one!
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>>526155684
>First of all, does Trump know that Greenland is the Icy one and Iceland is the Green one?



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