You will live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
Funny, they left her gums purple.
>>526166726Awww is your goy slop television slightly more Jewish or something? Fucking kill yourself loser
>>526166996Slightly?!
Star Trek has been so thoroughly raped for such a long time I'm not sure what you were expecting.
Star trek was always pozzed
>>526166726Wasn't jemhadar sterile in DS9?
>>526167085Yes exactly... It's always been this way. He's upset because the alien race of violent niggers talks like a game of thrones whore? This show is clearly for retards so complaining it's retarded is tautologically retarded.
>>526166726Why is every black woman in american media butt fucking ugly googly-eyed sheboon? Surely there a cutie blaxx they're not giving us for some fuck reason. I know they exist, I've seen rap videos.
>>526167225Ye, aand they only live 15 years, which means someone would have had to start making crossbreeds immediately after DS9 ended, or else their entire existence is a jurassic park style mad scientist resurrected an extinct species scenario, but the writers never watched DS9 so don't think too much of it.
>>526166834I Keenan and kelled at this
>>526166996Faggot leaf, I don't own a television. Shouldn't you be queuing up behind 10,000 jeets to drop a job application at Tim Horton's?
>>526167707Wow so then what's this post about you literal retard nigger...holy fuck you are pathetic
>>526166726It makes no sense that such a hybrid would exist. Gamma quadrant clone warriors with a lifespan of six years should have no sexytime with klingons.
>>526167085As opposed to the bible which is a jew in your library
>>526167767You're a sad, sad snow dweller. You can't even go to beaches in Canada because jeets set up poop tents on the sand and dig holes like cats. I can see that you're very angry about it. I'd say go touch grass, but it's like negative 40f in your shit domain and you haven't seen grass in months. I forgive you, though.
>>526167654>but the writers never watched DS9 so don't think too much of it.Ah, then it explains it.
>>526167225>>526167654They were all male and bred in vats. There were no females and IIRC they don't even have reproductive organsWhich means someone would have had to genetically engineer them to have gonads and then create female ones so they could start breeding, then genetically engineer them to live long enough to actually raise childrenBetter Call Saul had a rule where one writer was chosen each season, whose job it was to watch Breaking Bad in its entirety and thus could tell the other writers if something they wanted to do would break the show. I mean obviously they couldn't have a writer sit down and watch 700 hours of TV, but they could've hired one god damn Star Trek nerd to tell them this was stupidAlso I saw they have one of the black and white aliens from the RACISM BAD episode of TOS, forgetting that the whole point of that episode is that the two dudes were the last of their species, which had exterminated itself over mutual hatred
>>526166726What the fuck. That's supposed to be a klingon?>>526167203True. First interracial kiss on television, men in skirts in the first season of next gen, and plenty of preachy episodes throughout all it's runs, but despite the pozzed elements it still had its strengths. This is just straight up terminal AIDS. Totally ravaged. A husk that shouldn't be alive having infusions of cash pumped into it purely to keep something with AIDS alive.
someone get the ketracel addict outta here
>>526166726Jem'hadars can have children in Nu-Trek? Weren't they genetically bred as shock troops?
>>526167085Wait is THIS where calling it the electric Jew comes from??
>>526167469because that would promote unrealistic body types instead of normalizing being fucking fat, sick and lazyoh we can't have that. Having to self-improve... no no no
>>526167654>jurassic park style mad scientist resurrected an extinct species scenarioThat's the only possibility. Also despite klingons having "short lifespans" of 80 years, jemhadar mature in 72 hours.It makes no sense whatsoever. The biology is incompatible.
>>526168169>>526168169Star Trek was always about "in the future everyone will be their best selves, and nobody will care about all this shit we hate each other over" aka the promise of Boomer liberalismNobody knows how many gay or bisexual or whatever characters are on the Enterprise, because nobody gives a fuck and they're all at work. Picard's bald, it never comes up, there's a negress on Kirk's bridge and nobody brings it up because in the future it doesn't matterThis shit is the opposite of that. They even have a scene in Discovery where a character stops everyone else, on the bridge, to announce which pronouns they want to use
>>526168141>and then create female ones so they could start breedingIn theory, they could get male jemhadar, and female klingon. Similarly as with mules. To use male donkey, and female horse (mare).Have not seen this particular show. As tried to watch one of other recent star treks, but did not liked it, and stoped after like 2 episodes.Watched DS9 and actually liked. That ferengi side story with more developed alternative societal structure was quite nice touch.
>>526168216Vat grown clone eunichs that mature in 72 hours and subsit on a milky combat drug of painkiller, stimulant, and calories. They don't eat except through a feeding tube with a 6mm inner diameter.
>>526168064Kek so you made this thread about a show you haven't seen because you want attention for it. No more yous faggot
>>526166726>Jem Hadar are a race of male clones that are all addicted to a drug called Ketracel white, if they don't take the drug, they die.> Somehow, they can breed with Klingonshow does this make sense?
>>526168545Apparently the new show starts with someone stealing food... Nigger what?
A female Jem Hadar is speaking. Listen and Learn!
>>526168730Do the clones have a penis or ridge wallet or whatever klingons have?
>>526166726Jem Hadar don't have lineages, they're born from eggs.
She actually looks different to the jem hadar on ds9. It’s cut down
>>526168814She wrecked the dining hall because the replicator gave her cold fries and she wanted her credits back.
They actually did the meme.
>>526168814>someone stealing foodCottage-core organic heirloom, grown on Earth in dirt, with rainwater and natural sunlight only? It better have been, because you can't steal repicator slop.
>>526167107main character is a half nigger and his mother is... wait for it...white.
>>526168365
I don't take bait from dumb faggot trolls. I said no more yous you fucking nigger. Now no more replys. Dismissed
>>526168545I do think it's kind of ironically funny that nu-trek in it's bizarre attempts to reaffirm the underlying ethos of the show does more damage to the ideas put forward by Rodenberry and others than the show specifically designed to test those ideas in practice.
>>526166834Looks more like her.>Despite needing additional back story info, I don’t have a problem with a female Klingon/jem hadar character. What I do have a problem with is a hologram that can choose to look like anyone, choosing to be a fat black teenager with spaceballs, other than to lean into to the socially inept, but genius black girl trope.
>>526168612>Watched DS9 and actually likedDS9 is the best-written Trek imo. Enterprise is great if you like the sci-fi adventure format of TOS, and TNG of course is one of the best TV dramas made (after season 2)>FerengiI think Quark might be the best character in the entire franchiseThe Jemhadar are vat-grown engineered soldiers that reach physical maturity in a week and don't live much longer than 10 years. You'd still need a ton of genetic engineering just to make it possible, and why?>recent star treksThey're all awful and clearly made by people who not only never watched Star Trek but seem to genuinely hate it. Except Lower Decks, which while dumb, is also made by people who really love Star Trek
>>526169020I don't know I haven't seen it but replicators are molecular replicators... There would literally be zero difference between the two no? Like you literally couldn't prove a difference of you mixed them up was my understanding
>>526168814>Apparently the new show starts with someone stealing food... Nigger what?Yes, in NuTrek, there are starships but also people are starving>>526169129>reaffirm the underlying ethos of the showIt doesn't, though, the two underlying ethos of Trek from my perspective are 1. "n the future, all this shit that makes us miserable right now will be fixed" and 2. "Knowing the right thing to do is often hard, and there are usually compelling arguments on both sides of a moral dilemma"NuTrek's future is generic grimdark sci-fi where everyone's miserable and there's drug addicts and organized crime everywhere, and also the correct moral position is obvious (and coincidentally the one shared by 21st century American liberals) and the only people who can oppose it are monsters who need to be killed by our heroes right away before they commit a genocide
>>526169149>You'd still need a ton of genetic engineering just to make it possible, and why?I was about, that there would not need to make female jemhadar. In theory, it would be easier to modify sterile male to become fertile.From other hand, as much as I remember, they were all male specie (jem hadar). But if they do not have reproductive organs, are they actually males? Remains as open question.>They're all awful and clearly made by people who not only never watched Star Trek but seem to genuinely hate itSounds similar to what happened to Withcer. First season was nice. Second season not as much. Third season, seen may be one episode and stopped.Sad trend. So much potential wasted.
>>526167225Yes, and they don't live long, plus they are born drug addicted and extremely xenophobic.
>>526169162>Like you literally couldn't prove a difference of you mixed them up was my understandingThere's an occasional thing where characters swear they can tell the difference and the other characters are clearly humoring them a bit.In Starfleet Academy, the one character is literally stealing food as a child because he's starving. In a future that has replicators and infinite energy on tap everywhere.
>>526166726The Jem'Hatar were genetically engineered to be the warriors for the Dominion. They were "born" as adults and don't have sex.
>>526169162There's several times where characters claim to know the difference. The difference may only be that the replication is too flawless and lacks unexpected or imperfect flavors or textures. People will create custom replicatior recipies. There's also the snob/organic aspects.Starship hydroponics have a few missions:>researching alien plant and fungal life>terraforming or agricultural plant genetics. Such as making algae/fungi/seed/plant payloads to support terraforming>homegrown and flowers for the crew.
>>526169614>stealing food as a childLT Yarr's rape planet?
>>526168141Gender is a social construct durr
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>>526169669Not adults, but grew to adulthood in just a few days.
>>526169581>Sounds similar to what happened to Withcer.Similar, but Nu Trek doesn't have its star being a superfan and constantly fighting the "creatives" to slow down the damageLower Decks is the exception, though it's pretty unbearable for the first half of S1>But if they do not have reproductive organsI think that's in dialogue somewhere, and of course it makes no sense to have reproductive organs in your genetically-created single-sex vat-grown clone army, but I might be wrongI think it's just another symptom of NuTrek not actually having watched any Star Trek, and just trying to steal cool-looking stuff without understanding any of it. Like in Picard S2, they thought it'd be a great retcon to have Guinan own a bar in 21stC San Francisco at #10 Forward St. WOW, THAT'S HOW 10 FORWARD GOT ITS NAME! This is because they knew that she ran the ship's bar on TNG, and that it was called 10 Forward. But they didn't know that the reason it's called 10 Forward on TNG is because it's on Deck 10 and it's the most Forward roomSo now they've created this idiotic situation where a long-lived alien had a bar on Earth and then centuries later would coincidentally run a lounge on a human starship that happened to be located in the part of the ship that had the same name as the bar she had on EarthI hate them so much man
>>526166726>all the aliens are humanoidThis shit always seemed so silly.
>>526169614>>526169685Kek that's actually pretty interesting if they never give a definitive and it all relies entirely on people's subjective interpretation... Because it could still work with them being molecularly identical because you are actually replicating the same molecular structure every single time. It doesn't matter how many times you make the same spaghetti sauce it's never the same because the ingredients aren't homogenized. If something was exactly the same every time you would notice small differences
>>526169757>LT Yarr's rape planet?Earth
>>526170139If compare with Star Wars franshize, then Rouge One was nice film. And Andor was decent series.May be. Just may be. That at some time, there will be created some nice and well thought new series in Star Trek franchise. Still, current trend is not very encouraging.
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>>526170177I mean if it's molecularly identical it will taste identical, because our tongues are very impressive chemical sensors but not at the atomic levelIn this show, this 32nd century kid is stealing food because he's a starving orphan. In the future, where everything you could ever need comes out of a box in the wall for free, because we have unlimited energy and machines that can make anything you want instantly
>>526170544>Star Wars franshizeGood comparison imo, in that Trek and Star Wars both seem to be mostly made by an even mix of 1) shameless hacks trying to do fanservice without understanding anything about the franchise, and 2) people who seem genuinely angry that they're being forced to make stuff in that franchiseI really loved Andor. Maybe Trek could hire Tony Gilroy
>>526166726Good to see Louis Gossett Jr. reprising his breakout role forty years later.
>>526170561Ya and I can actually imagine that being fucking horrible.. Imagine if instead of taking a bite of chicken you are taking the same bite of chicken. That sounds monotonous as fuck.... And so the kid stealing food is literally as nigger tier retarded as it sounds got it. Someone mentioned recipes. Is there any time they use the replicator to make ingredients and cook for themselves or is it a digital thing where you tweak some numbers to change up the end result?
>>526166726I stopped supporting or watching the Hollywood Jew a long time ago.
>>526170552Christ, what is that thing? Is that your Dad?
>>526167654Lel the Founders can always clone more like in Star Wars, Jem'Hadar are clones.On the downside, I enjoyed Trek but everything that came after 2009 is trash
>>526170789Andor is possibly the best science fiction show ever made. It kills me they cut three seasons only to piss away billions on shit like asoka/acolyte which I simply refuse to watch. I almost just wish andor had nothing to do with Star wars.
>>526170173If humans in Star Trek couldn't fuck aliens then they would kill them like the Terran Empire
>>526170915>Is there any time they use the replicator to make ingredients and cook for themselves or is it a digital thing where you tweak some numbers to change up the end result?Neelix is Voyager's ship chef and cooks both from actual ingredients and replictator stock. O'brian's wife cooks, but she's a botanist who has hydroponic access. The digital recipie thing happens in a few episodes where characters talk about how they've gone through a lot of effort to make it taste right.
>>526170915>Is there any time they use the replicator to make ingredients and cook for themselves or is it a digital thing where you tweak some numbers to change up the end result?Yeah, often. The captain in DS9 mostly does his own cooking, and his father owns a restaurant back on Earth that uses actual fresh ingredients whenever they can get them.Obviously if I had a box in the wall that could make literally anything I could ask for, I'd go for it a lot, but cooking is fun and I can't imagine a faster way to ruin my favorite dish than to have it exactly, literally the same every time I ordered it>>526171211To be fair to Lucasfilm they told Gilroy they were basically giving up on Star Wars streaming after losing billions on Filonislop, but they still gave him $400 million and full creative freedom to wrap up Andor in a satisfying way, and holy shit did he succeed even though it should've had at least another seasonFunnier considering he wasn't even involved originally and just heard they were making a show with his characters, and when he called to ask what the plan was, they were going for more slop with Andor and K-2 going on wacky space adventures, so instead he pitched them an epic spy thriller with the theme of how authoritarianism inevitably creates its own destruction, from the perspectives of every kind of willing and unwilling participant in such a system, and they said "uh ok let's do your thing instead"
>>526170173There's a season 1 TNG (multipart?) episode where there's a treasure hunt race to find a hologram recording of these smooth faced progenitor race that seeded all the planets with humanoids. Incidentally the makeup looks a lot like the shapeshifting founders, however they aren't founders.
>>526171562Lol damn that's cool... I guarantee id rather watch a logically consistent show about cooking on a starship than whatever this zoomernigger goyslop is.
>>526167469picrel makes my penis large and hard, if you follow my allusion
>>526171211Firefly was also nice sci fi show, and was only one season long.There is risks to overstrech series, over already written script. If take Game of Thrones, then when they had books of G.Martin to follow. Then they had more of "plot backbone" to stick. In later seasons, when show advanced beyond books which was written and published, it became harder, and there was a lot of plot holes.For some reason, good screenwriting is not as highly valued in Hollywood anymore, as it was decades ago.
>>526168814Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.
>>526167225Stop asking questions and consume, goy!
>>526171858>you follow my allusionAh alluding to you finding her appearance as attractive. Very clever wordplay.
>>526171879Firefly was pretty comfy. I don't care to re-watch it, as I was dying from cancer when I went through the series. Weird, but the theme song brings back a lot of bad memories.
>>526171739I fucking hate when people go to the effort to create consistent deep lore and they throw it out the window for gay visuals and lazy storytelling. Oh 100% and I absolutely loved it. I guess I have to be thankful season 2 was as good as it was even if I wanted more. Skarsgard is just so fucking good and the little things like andor pretending to be him for his character on gorn could have been so much more impressive with a little more time to flesh out the transition. It just kills me knowing the money and potential pissed away. Imagine if it was the first show instead of the last.
>>526171858Keep your secrets, cryptic faggot.
>>526171879Naw andor was created with 5 seasons in mind and they needed the time to get the characters through their arcs. I'd agree if it was an adaptation but it wasn't. Fire fly was pretty good but my second is the expanse even though the writing is shit. Something about the hard sci-fi visuals of ships on long obvious trajectories having to just mag dump massive amounts of armaments on each other is so appealing. Space dogfighting is gay and retarded
>>526172256>I fucking hate when people go to the effort to create consistent deep lore and they throw it out the window for gay visuals and lazy storytelling.40 damn years of Trek lore and they threw it out the window to make generic grimdark sci-fi that isn't even goodThe one tiny consolation is they've run the franchise into the ground so deeply that nobody gives a shit anymore. Like a new Star Trek series debuted yesterday, and they put the premiere up on the Star Trek and Paramount YouTube channels for free, and after 24 hours it has 87k views. 87,000! Nobody's even hate-watching itSame as how there's a Star Wars movie coming to theaters in a few months and absolutely nobody cares.
>>526166726Err, yeah can I get fries with that?
>>526172236It was interesting mix of western and sci fi. Something relatively uncommon at time. Strangely, but that approach was not much exploited since then.May be Altered Carbon have some vague resemblance.
>>526166726Sign Tappers irrevocably btfo'd
>>526172476>Space dogfighting is gay and retardedFunny enough WW1 was about maximum performance climb and boom and zoom, WW2 was about boom and zoom, and Korea about boom and zoom and Vietnam about notifying Russia about literally air mission's target, and timing so air defenders could preaim.
>>526169903all they do in the third world is breed non stop. It's like a zerg hive. Importing them is like importing fleas.
>>526172549Hahaha I didn't even believe you... There is a fucking grogu movie!? Nigger I could buy lottery scratchers with that money for a better ROI. How the fuck are executives that stupid?
>>526166726I fucking hate niggers in generalbut I hate the ones who show their gums even more
>>526172476>Fire fly was pretty good but my second is the expanse even though the writing is shit. First 3 seasons of Expanse were very nice. Stopped to watch at some of later seasons, when there was way too much emphasis on that mother-son drama. Kinda, in theory could stomach to watch, if there was hope that it would become better. But lost hope.
>>526173296No it turns to absolute dogshit and starts focusing on the proto molecule which is basically just magic in a show that's strength was it's commitment to hard sci-fi. You made the right call
>>526166726>It is not bad enough that they made a female Jem'hadar. They made them fuck klingons now.
>>526172782>How the fuck are executives that stupid?Probably something like>we're billions of dollars upside down on Star Wars movies>we're billions of dollars upside down on Star Wars streaming >we need something that will generate some fucking money>we can't do Rey and Finn and Kylo because nobody cares>we can't do Han and Luke and Leia because they're all dead in universe or in real life>we can't do Andor because he's dead>at least we can sell some fucking Grogu toysUnfortunately they killed the franchise, stone cold dead to the point that there isn't even anger any more
>>526173437That's sad. Would be nice if I were wrong. That there would be reason to return and to resume watching.
>>526170789>mostly made by an even mix of 1) shameless hacks trying to do fanservice without understanding anything about the franchise, and 2) people who seem genuinely angry that they're being forced to make stuff in that franchiseI think we see this in EVERYTHING now because suits are obsessed with the huge payout from the huge budget project, so they try to minimize risk by refusing anything that isn't a preexisting IP. You get a ton of writers/directors who see themselves as the next Scorcese and want tell their super special story about competitive gay sex leagues in Burma or whatever, and the only way they can get any money from anybody is if they can somehow use already existing creations. They're pissed that nobody believes in their auteur vision and do everything they can to minimize the IP they're effectively skinsuiting. Then later in turn the fans of that IP pissed that the Conan the barbarian show they were hype for is about Conan starting a maid cafe and he's only actually in the show for a total of 15 minutes.Netflix punisher is a perfect example of this. Frank castle was basically a supporting character in his own show.
>>526172730Cowboy Bebop was pretty decent Sci-Fi as Western. The MOST kino Sci-Fi as western movie ever. Hands down. Is Outland with Sean Connory.
>>526173554Except the only lesson they should have taken from andor is the potential left is in moving away from the canon they have ruined and allowing new characters with new stories to explore the universe people love... Literally just steal something and stick it in starwars. That gay treasure shit was the second best attempt and it was literally just space goonies. Get the fuck away from the gay Skywalker shit and tell a new story.
>>526166726What saintless fresh hell is this?
>>526173847Have not seen it yet.Saved in "to watch" list. Thanks for suggestion.
>>526167988If you had ever read the bible you would know that it is cover to cover about how utterly fucked up and horrible the Jews are, and how much God himself despised them. But you haven't read it, so your opinion is useless.
>>526174121He already says he doesn't have a tv anon... He's either a troll or an actual fucking retard. Just ignore everything he says
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>>526173897Andor came as offshoot from Rouge One. And it was almost as unrelated sidestory.Lesson might be that there is no strict need to stick to already known characters. That there can create some interesting story which lives "in parallel". Assuming that screenwriting is good.
>>526167225Yes. They were all male and grown artificially in vats. There would never and could never be a hybrid.
>>526173807From someone in the industry, that's basically 100% correct, though last year the model cracked. But it'll take another year or two before new stuff hits the screen.>studios chase big payouts on big budgets>risk must therefore be minimized, therefore everything must be 4-quadrant friendly and preferably PG-13, stick to known structure, and only use IPs with existing name recognition>hire a bunch of idiot college kids to write it because they're cheap, put some alcoholic has-been in charge because he's cheap>both idiot college kids and has-been are self-identified geniuses, angry that their genius is unrecognized and that they're being forced to produce slop for boomer franchises>being either failures or children they actually have nothing compelling to say about life, and they think their personal politics are Important Messages that need to be heardThus you get boring slop that also serves as a grating political lecture, often layered with subtle and direct insults at actual fans of the franchise
>>526173897>>526174438Yeah, Star Wars is an incredible framework for telling an infinite number of stories>oppressive monstrous regime with all the corrosive effects on the human soul that they have>at the edges of that regime's control, a wild west/pirate era caribbean in space with all the interesting potential that has>good vs evil reduced to its very purest forms>also magic and sorcery and swordplayIt is absolutely criminal that everyone but George Lucas and Tony Gilroy has failed to tell good stories given that. It's like every awesome genre of storytelling at once, with the ability to instantly hyperspace between any part you want
>>526174438Except Andor isn't unrelated to Rogue One storywise, but the very prequel to it.And it worked so well because it's a classic spy thriller/resistance drama dressed up in Star Wars attire and would have worked just as well by itself in any other setting. Because it was competently written and acted.But the writers went the extra mile to make sure it'll work properly in the Star Wars setting without messing up established lore. Which shows at least some basic respect and reverence to the source material.
>>526167469they don't want you to like black women, they want you to hate them so then a culture race war occurs
>>526168141https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=925zCPYD9Hw
>>526174438Oh I fully agree it's possible they have just proven themselves incapable of doing so and every piece of lore they ad damaged the ot... Remember when they defeated the empire? Oh they actually didn't do anything some girl and her nigger figured it out with zero training though. Just fucking try something else so when they fuck it up they only ruin their own gay shit not the stories that came before them. Their is nothing more 21st century than taking a piece of culture and nigging it up. Nobody 20 years from now will have seen the latest trilogy and nobody is going to try and convince them to watch it. They spent billions of dollars to murder the characters people loved... Kathleen Kennedy just got replaced and it will literally get worse. Fillion is a fucking cuck. Asoka is gay fanfic. Everything he creates is gay.
>>526174300Are you still lurking, leaf? Outland is not a TV show. Bebop hasn't been on TV for probably a couple of decades. Did your mother have any children that lived?
>>526173452Thought future Earth had managed to get rid of the jews. That's why unification and the Federation were even possible.Yet, there they are hard at work.
>>526172730I wonder if a post Mars terraform could be a good setting for a western style sci fi. There's an entire planet now able to settle and authority stretched thin.>you'll never be a cattle rancher on Mars:(
>>526168612I love how Ferengi are obvious space-Jews.
>>526171858hmmm having a hard time trying to decipher your riddle
>>526174618>>526174618I should add to this that streaming ironically broke everything, because for a long time Netflix and Amazon and HBO and sort of still Apple were just writing huge checks to anyone who had a halfway compelling pitch, instantly siphoning off all the real talent who could suddenly produce their passion projects, so the talent pool available to write franchise slop was reduced to basically college kids who needed to get any credit they can, and washed-up failures who were desperate to restart their careersWhen you hit up some of these slop disasters on imdb and look up the writing credits, you'll see a lot of that. The Written By section is always kids with one episode of some cartoon on their resume, and then some dude who hasn't sold a movie in 20 years
>>526166726crazy you can tell its a nigger
>>526174889100%... And the crazy part? It literally elevates the movie. Rogue one is fine. It's a cool little story with a couple basic characters nobody would really remember or give a shit about... Until you have casians fucking breaking bad leading up to it. All of the sudden you understand the stakes and what these people have given up. Rogue ones dialogue and everything are a noticable step down but it is still a better movie for andor existing
>>526175135Would possibly be a cool MMORPG.
>>526169903hey im from calgary neat to see us on pol
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>>526174545You do think any of her cuteness survived? Maybe once the kid grew up a little some of her mother endured.Either way this image always depresses me
>>526174853>It is absolutely criminal that everyone but George Lucas and Tony Gilroy has failed to tell good stories given that.More good stories exist in that setting, but they're told mostly inother media than movies or TV series. Usually books and games.Lucas and Gilroy (and to an extent Filoni) were the only ones who managed to successfully bring the material to screen.And even Lucas bumbled it somewhat in the prequels compared to the original trilogy because he got complete creative control with no checks or limits on him and that didn't do it any good.So this is clearly a skill issue.
>>526175283What's crazier is when you look at Worf and you can almost picture Michael Dorn as a broad shouldered Nord
A reminder to Anons from a die-hard Trekkie... The Jem-Hadar were never canonically sterile just without females due to cloning rules by the Dominion... Her father is Jem'Hadar and mother is Klingon. As a Trekkie though they should delve into the origins of the Jem'Hadar beyond Dominion Warriors in my opinion.
>>526175460Right but imagine having a vast sea of extended universe materials and dumping the entire cannon to focus on some dumb bitch and her nigger who steal everything including the original names... The fuck?
>>526175179Even more greedy and recklessly exploitative but only half as subversive and scheming as the real deal.
>>526175460>Usually booksI wish I wasn't so vax-brained, adhdmaxxed I could read a book and not have to reread the same page 3 times to absorb what's on the page
>>526174853Yes, how Trade Federation had deals with some pirates, and to solve issues they had to turn to some third party. At the end, allowing for them to consolidate more power and influence.Some secret agents infiltrating pirates, on behalf of Trade Federation. While among pirates, they participate in raid on some research lab, where they uncover some tech, which allows to manufacture some scarce goods even cheaper. Dilemma, should they report back, or continue with initial mission.
>>526172782>>526173554I used to subscribe to the idea that it was for propaganda and humiliation ritual purposes. As in they were using the husks of star wars and star trek as a soapbox with which to spout their politics and manufacture concensus that their politics were popular, while also dragging their balls on something you loved, and they weren't to worried about the bottom line. But even this can't be the case because both of those IPs have bombed so spectacularly that they effectively function as anti-propaganda. The goal was to make it look like their worldview was popular, and instead they showed that their worldviews were so utterly unpopular that they completely destroyed what USED to be IRL infinite money glitches. 20 years ago you could make a cum scented candle branded as "Yoda's jerk sock scented jedi candle" and make money, today they can't get people to give a fuck about mainline movies
Nutrek is forcing younger people to seek out older series, and they're seeing how good those series are.
>>526175179The classic take is that it's Jews all the way down>Bajoran Orthodox Jews>Federation liberal Jews>Ferengi money grubbing scammer Jews>Dominion mask-slip Jews
>>526175545Technically, the Kling'Hadar could have been created through artificial insemination and genetic engineering. A Designer baby.As most humanoid species can only father viable cross-species offspring via some corrective genetic manipulation anyway.Which is one of the most silly and unrealistic aspects of all of Star Trek lore but whatevs.
>>526174889>But the writers went the extra mile to make sure it'll work properlyProbably they were given proper timeframe to work. Got impression, that a lot of stuff nowdays gets rushed. That that time, between when budget got approved, and when final product need to be launched, that is shorter than earlier. On top of that changing inputs from upper who are in charge.
>>526175651Sucks to be you, fren.But there are also plenty of audiobooks and you can even have AI read you books now, you know?
>>526175740I actually don't think you are wrong they just didn't understand you need to wrap propaganda in a sweet visage. Saying hey you should like niggers and dumb bitches because this retard does isn't actually a very compelling argument.
>>526167469There used to be so many of them when I was a kid growing up on the TV. (Zoomer boomer). But they all got gigafatted up by our dogshit food, EBT food (same thing-ish), lack of caring about ANYTHING. The system actually encouraged them to not care about anything, hence the utter nuclear wasteland that (the sliver remaining) is the black-american community. The ones that look after themselves now, funny enough, almost always got a White bf. They're also giga-redpilled but in the most stupid way possible. A prime example you'll know off the top of your head is Candace Owens.The ones that take care of themselves are from well-to-do black families, a lot of them also trying out for the White BF job, so they try to make themselves look like White girls. Which isn't bad, but it can go too far. Just look like a regular American Black woman. What eva happened dere? And dare I say, I think the same thing is happening to White women (ghettomaxxing). Fuckin' grim boys. Fuckin' grim. I will never forgive them for taking away normal BMI black women.
>>526166726I thought Trump killed woke.
>>526166726Reminder that hating "woke" stuff means you're a virgin.
>>526167225hell they brought back ayylmaos that extincted themselves with racism, the whole show is basically the writers going to a Star Trek convention and choosing to make a whole series about the greasy fat nerds they encountered
>>526175135>I wonder if a post Mars terraform could be a good setting for a western style sci fiIt was done on some level in Futurama.
>>526175881This has been a thing since the original series though... Spock being Half-Vulcan/Human. I do think this is pushing it and shouldn't be without a fully fleshed backstory, that also being said Jem'Hadar probably were modified rather than completely made-up from scratch and this was said during DS9.
>>526166834That's one of the greatest gifs of all time
>>526166726Ketracel whitepower this abomination out the airlock.
>>526166726Is that Whoopi Goldberg?
>>526176214The moral of this story is alien pussy is best pussy
>>526175179That actor, which pushed for extended Ferengi lore, he himself was a jew. Still, there was alternate, more elaborate societal structure which had actual logic. Guidelines in Rules of Acquisition, those were kept short and simple. Easy to understand.
>>526172776Their survival strategy is to have as many shitlets as possible because most of them will die because they can't develop a functioning nation. It's hardwired into their DNA.
im watching the first episode on youtube right now. its fuckin unreal how heavyhanded it is. first, women are in all positions of power. then theres an intro where the new captain bitch previously held a war-time job where she separated a mother from her child. thats it. thats what happens. the former captain quits star fleet because she followed orders regarding separating a mother from her child. then she has an aside where she condemns the act lmao. its nuts.also, she finds the separated mystery meat baby years later and brings him along to the academy because white guilt lmao. then they bring back the emh doctor and have him give all the kids physicals and vaccines. then the doctor informs the former-new captain that all the kids are healthy for school and all their vaccinations are up to date. he says that. then they literally take a road trip to san francisco and hype it up like theyre college kids going to vegas in the early 2000s
>>526176363TRVKE!
>>526166726why is everyone so ugly?
>>526176523Ok THAT is inexcusable... The Orville S4 when?
>>526171858Don’t care if she’s a 10, if she has gross, nappy, nigger hair then it drops her rating by 9 points.
>>526166726Nice to see Whoopi Goldberg return to Star Trek.
>>526176633Beauty standards HAVE to be challenged because men have been programmed by the patriarchy to find conventionally attractive women attractive.Yes, they genuinely believe that if they shove enough ugly women in your face, your literal biology will change, and you will star liking ugly, fat, black women.
>>526171858What did he mean by penis?
>>526171858One of these has your name on it
>>526167107>Star Trek has been so thoroughly raped for such a long time I'm not sure what you were expecting.Jews hijacked it. It is now thoroughly Jewish, just like Star Wars is these days. They'll also have you believe it was always Jewish from the start. But even though it starred a few Jewish actors (Shatner and Nimoy) it was actually an Irish-American creation. First Gene Roddenberry of course, and then Brannon and Braga for awhile after his death. But I suppose all good things must come to an end.
>>526176523Vegas?
>>526176864it worked with pushing obese proportions like butts and "thicc"I remember when they first started pushing it in the early 2010s. Before then thin was the beauty standardnow there´s a legion of men that drool over thicc. It was interesting to watch in real time the jew shape the sexual preferences of the majority of men
>>526169148>speciesa bit rude
>>526177331>it worked with pushing obese proportions like butts and "thicc"I think a lot of that is accentuated by black culture being so prevalent now.
>>526175702>>526175460You should be able to tell an infinite number of compelling stories in Star wars! Your setting is an infinite universe where good and evil are in conflict on several levels, from brute tyranny at gunpoint by literally faceless stormtroopers vs rebels to mystical knight-sorcerers in magic contests or swordfights evil warrior-sorcerers powered by anger and selfishness itself. And a universe that ranges from aristocrats on capitol city-planets to 19th century gold rush desert mining towns, with pirates and bounty hunters and Senators and soldiers and smugglers and politicians and secret police and stormtroopers and knight-sorcerers and aliens, all with instant travel between every locale It's like every genre of Golden Age film at the same time, and you can pick and choose which element to emphasize by having the characters get on a spaceship. Just pick some of those words at random and there'll be a decent framework for a story, how the fuck did everyone but Lucas and Gilroy fail it makes me so fucking mad
>>526177331Are there? Or are you just being propagandized to believe such? Do you think a couple of rap songs and commercials changed the tastes of men or that they just used the media to make women believe such? Lot of rich white guys with fat chicks walking around in your city? You just got psyoped by the body positivity movement and now ozempic exists so it doesn't need to. Lazy bitches don't need to be fat so they don't need to pretend you like it
>>526177533>And a universe that ranges from aristocrats on capitol city-planets to 19th century gold rush desert mining townsYes. There was no need to "somehow Palpatine came back" moment. When he was able to attack ships in orbit, with his finger-lightning.
>>526177729it wasnt just a fewit was a total and constant bombardment of thicc in mass media
>>526177331Men always preferred thick lmao. If you actually fucked you would know why.
>>526177886I said couple... But was probably also being hyperbolic correct?... And I'm still right. Millions of years of evolution wasn't undone by a decade of niggers telling people fat bitches are cute. Fat bitches were never cute and nobody believes that. Fetishes and weirdos exist. You probably think people actually like trannies... The general public being tricked into thinking they aren't allowed to say something without being jewishly cancelled doesn't make it true. What percentage of the population said they supported trump before he fucking crushed them?
>>526178001that just means more women with ideal body types for me. all of you can have all the cows
>>526178316Enjoy your pre teen boys
>>526178316she kinda looks like an irl spurdo
>>526178444you mean gondola, anon...
>>526177533And you are! There's a Star Wars P&P RPG where you can homebrew any setting or story you can imagine within the vast and diverse Star Wars galaxy. And play it with your friends (if you have any).And those stories can even be really fucking epic and better than most official products.Thing is, you either can tell compelling stories or you don't. Some amateurs can and many professionals can't.As almost always, it's a skill issue.
>>526178001Skinny bitch's belly distending from a big ol' dick slamming it is pretty hot.
>>526166726>descended from literal super soldier species and warrior species>somehow still obese
>>526175179they specifically cast jewish actors as ferengi
>>526177832>Yes. There was no need to "somehow Palpatine came back" moment. When he was able to attack ships in orbit, with his finger-lightning.I honestly kind of felt for JJ there. He knew his entire career was riding on that movie, where he'd have to1. Answer at least most of the lazy mystery boxes he'd opened in TFA without a single clue how they'd end, figuring that'd be someone else's problem2. Somehow undo the shotgun blast to the gut of the franchise that was TLJ, while also not causing the few fans of it to shriek on Twitter and not undoing Disney PR's desperate attempts to spin that disaster as genius and its haters as nazis and3. Work around the fact that he had killed off Han Solo, TLJ had killed off the series villain and Luke Skywalker, and cocaine had killed off Leia Organa, leaving him with a cast of 1-dimensional non-characters that nobody gave a shit about. I don't know who could've actually pulled that off in a satisfying way, but it certainly wasn't JJ and the guy who wrote Batman v Superman
>>526178716I wish they'd just opened up the gamebook and stuck their finger on a few random words on a few random pages, we would've had a better storyThey could've just done Treasure Island in Star Wars and it would've been better
>>526178923Kek agree... But the answer wasn't which way is up pure retardation. Jj deserves every lick of hate he gets for ruining Star wars. He's a shit writer who shouldn't be allowed to produce scripts.
>>526177118>But I suppose all good things must come to an end.Must it? Or is that itself a jewish philosophy?Their belief that all beauty must be tarnished and destroyed.
>>526178798Klingons have redundant organs and Jem'Hadar's scaly skin grows thicker with age and hardens.So maybe it's not fat, but just too many organs in her torso and she's so old that her hide has grown as thick as an old crocodile's, making her look obese?or maybe it's really just an ugly and obese Laqueefa under all those prosthetics.
>>526166726imagine being ruled by joo blackmailed peos?
>>526166726Why do they cast Black Folx as violent species?
finished the first episode. it's rough i tell ya. first, the holographic obese teen negress is of course an awkward computer genius who doesnt know how to talk to people or act. the new captain is basically a life coach. theres an obese teacher on the deck. she has a couple zingers where she references a "teachable moment". i think thats the job a lot of commies want.also, they use snarky foul language. dickin' around, asshole, motherfucker
>>526166726What the actual fuck was Paramont+ thinking?
>>526171858Fucking Serbian Riddlemasters
>>526168141They dont need to raise kids they reach adulthood in a week. You also forgot they live off of space heroin so they would also need to still have access to those factories because i dont think it can be replicated. There's also the fact that genetic engineering has been the biggest tabboo of the federation since tos and even before the federation existed in enterprise. A good writer could make some interesting stories of why that abomination exists, but that's obviously a moot point
>>526180124Funny thing is, I can't tell if this is real or not.
>>526180488>They dont need to raise kids they reach adulthood in a week.That's what I meant, if you reach adulthood in a week and die in 10 years you're not going to be a parent. So in addition to completely reengineering them to have a fertile female, you'd need to also reengineer them to have a normal lifespan
>>526180488It's crazy that original star Trek was about taking a simple concept like how could this being exist and digging into the ethical and political implications of such and now the show looks down on people who question the lore they clearly couldn't care less about
>>526180785Wouldn't the female just be the klingon?... How does any of that have anything to do with age and life cycle? Do they have penises and cum? Isn't that literally the only question?
>>526167469Because Americans have only been exposed to west africans
all it took was the poster for me to not even give the first episode a try
>>526166834i couldn't stop looking at this for two minutes straighthigh art
>>526166726>You will live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.They're already here.
>>526174281I know how horrible the old testament is and if Christcucks read it, they wouldn't larp as messianic jews
>>526179315>Must it? Or is that itself a jewish philosophy?I was making a reference to the final TNG episode "All Good Things". I hope its not actually true though.>Their belief that all beauty must be tarnished and destroyed.Reminds me of this quote by Tolkien, and sadly now they are beginning to sink their talons into his works and tear them apart also (forced diversity, etc.)Even though Peter Jackson's films were a far cry from the books, we're still fortunate that they came out in the early 2000s as opposed to today, because despite their numerous flaws, at least there isn't niggers.
>>526180897>How does any of that have anything to do with age and life cycle?Because if you genetically reach adulthood in a week and are dead of old age around 10 years old, it will be difficult to raise a child that hits physical maturity years after you have died. Also what's going to happen to a kid half of whose DNA is trying to make that happen>Do they have penises and cum? Isn't that literally the only question?Why would they? They're a custom-designed vat-grown race of warriors. Why would you go to the trouble of giving them a reproductive system that could never be used?
>>526179999What's even the point of starfleet anymore when holigraphic mobile emmitters are a thing? Holograms have the entire collective knowledge of every civilization in the database, are immortal, and are apparently energy efficient given that there were thousands of leftover emhs doing manual labor hundreds of years before this show (maybe longer i have no idea how far in the future nutrek takes place after voyager) takes place
