because all the young men who love computer science give women the ick so they are booted from every internship and employment.
>>526177322Thats really strange because I know tons of top tier STEM grads struggling to find jobsMaybe this boomer/his friend/Raytheon is lying
>>526177322have they tried looking for them in africa?
>>526177322>RAYTHEON CAN'T FIND TALENTED YOUNG ENGINEERS**at the price point they want
>>526177418>>526177322Guarantee they're getting lots of great applications but the HR bitches throw all of them in the trash.
Quick import a pajeet who graduated from a diploma mill
>>526177418fpbp
>>526177473They want Indians
>>526177322RTX is a DEI company, and most of the job listings are in India. They also do things like they will not hire people who have 24 months or more of experience for a lot of jobs, as well as they are currently being sued because they discriminate against 40+.
>>526177322>Saar pick me, I have degree from Ramasanjesh Majuripal Municipal University!
>>526177322>real estate investor meeting manager in other industryNo wonder they enforced return to office, and now can't find any employees. Kek
>>526177473this is an insanely good salary for a kid fresh out of college
>>526177322good morning saarelite human capital reporting in
so find smart people and train them? If the college system isn't educating people well you just have to set up your own system
>>526177322>Prevent talent from going to college because of skin color.>Wonder why no talent.They know they cant hire Indians because they need shit to actually work.GOOD LUCK!
>>526177561Their DEI mission, similar to what has been destroying Boeing
>>526177473you should be thankful that they’re even giving you a job you dirty goyim
>>526177322i watched enough classic star trek, i'm sure i could handle it
>>526177418this is a big unspoken thing. you could be a genius and be over qualified, but if you are not likeable no one wants you. that's all hiring is nowadays, you gotta be likeable, or the other route is connections who just hook you upand a big problem with this is that a lot of people who would actually be great at something are never given a chance. then their only chance is fast food or some other job no one wants to do so the hiring people are desperate and take anyone
>>526177427>Thats really strange because I know tons of top tier STEM grads struggling to find jobssame here
>>526177322That you 'can't find workers' is just you screaming really loud at the top of your lungs WE ARE A CHEAP SHIT COMPANY!because you can get people to dive into actual human shit to repair a pump IF YOU PAY THEM ENOUGH!
I'm a skilled software engineer with experience and I quit years ago and stopped looking because the salaries are insulting and I'm not going to compete on salary with a street shitting 3rd world scammer who can't write fizzbuzz.Let it collapse.
>>526177602You should check the actual job postings, and not trust an AI summary.
>>526177537Until they become too expensive then they'll move to viets or burundians.
>>526177561>RTX is a DEI companyEvery S&P100 company is. That's also the crux of the issue, what's the point of pursuing an engineering degree if some DEI monkey will be hired instead of you.
>>526177686The shareholders should be put out in the streets to suck dick for spare change.
>>526177322>Please saar we can't find new engineers saar>Job application: Junior engineer, 7.50/hr, 5 years of experience
>>526177322Have they tried hiring white men?
>>526177427I have a PhD and 10 years of great practical tech experience. I've been looking for a new role for over a year now. My salary is industry average since I never negotiate to protect from layoffs but the few jobs I got an initial call for would mean taking a 30% pay cutThese people absolutely just want H1B slaves that they can give half the salary and hang the immigration status over their head
>>526177427Raytheon is lying. Engineers and stem grads are fucked. AI can do what these monkeys do much better
>>526177856once you learn how to do actual engineering you’ll be paid more than minimum wage
>>526177856>hr anal probe required daily
>>526177418fpbp and /thread
>>526177602starting salaries are like 60k and you have to move across the country for it a position you're not only competing with thousands of other eggheads for but also fucking jeets
>>526177800There are a lot of engineers that just aren't getting hired because they are white and white people aren't what investors want. These companies think just because they are big that means that they don't have to worry about the quality of the employees, this is why everything is getting enshittified.
>>526177939and even if you get the job. you know for a fact they are working to replace you with jeets in the future. or robots. or anything but keeping you around for an entire career.
>>526177602No, it's not.It would have been a good salary 20 years ago.Maybe you are too young to know just how hard you are being fucked on wages/salaries right now.
>>52617760290k was considered "pretty good" for new grad engineers 10 years ago. I had an average job for 65k
>>526177914>coffee, hahahaI hate these people
>>526177322That is why skilled oldfags like myself that is making $300k a year because if you dont want that type of skill I dont have to work. Its not sucking dick if anything its sucking pussy faggot. Learn to please the bearded clam and find out how to score yourself a sugar mama after graduating from the basement of your parents house. That’s what I did. Challenge me. You cant unless you are quasimoto
>>526177322i saw how the various scientists and engineers whose daughters i fucked were faring, and many had surprisingly little unless they chanced into a generous stock package for the right company. And it was clear none of them got to make any important decisions at all.when i hanged out with rich people and their orbiters, it was about having an MBA. And in DC, there were two classes of people lawyers, and everyone else.
>>526177418SEND MORE DURGASOFT JEETS! NO MORE MANSPLAINING, JUST YES AND HEAD BOBBING!
>>526177800It's really impossible to escape without legal change.
>>526177322>we can't find engineers who meet our requirements>the requirements: not white
>>526177322just the length he goes through to claim he didn't just make it up is all you need to know to tell he made it up
>>526177686I have learned that the hard way, and I am paying for it brutally. It's not about WHAT you know. It's about WHO you know. Always has been since time immemorial.
>>526177602now show me the job listing for this job
>>526177322>spend 20+ years divesting necessary education to outside US>wE cAn'T fInD eNgInEeRsWow, it's like they're reaping what they sow
>>526178290>g-go to college to network!Why not pocket the $120k or $200k or whatever and start a business? The who you know could retire or switch companies and you're out of luck with no patron.
>>526177322
>>526177427The "tons" you know want avocado toast and all remote work for $200K.
>>526177322>poisons the school system>why isn't anyone smart
>>526177322they're working in europe and asia nowhow about not letting engineers have passports?
>>526178431Thankfully, I managed to do the impossible and get a bachelor's without getting into debt. I did do 2 years of corporate before getting laid off. Shit's damn fucked up now.
>>526177800Its also obnoxious being a competent person that works below a nog who is obviously in their position because they're black. I can work below the salty white boomer because I know he at least *somewhat* earned his position back in the 80s - the nigger comparatively acts like an entitled kang because he believes he's superior due to working at the company for like 2 years and is climbing up management positions. I also notice they only look out for women, not even other niggers.>>526177418I believe this is part of why so many white computer science guys troon out.
>>526177616Kek a self aware jeet
>>526177866that would be racist
RTX literally hired the Somali retard castoff from my company a few months after we dropped a PIP on his bitchass, the lying fuck.These companies just want warm bodies for cheap to inflate their headcount, it's classic 90's management style. There's plenty of talent out there.
Raytheons website just now. First result
>>526177602Not really no, it isn't anymore. Not with house prices being what they are.
i'm guessing it may be a sticking point for some engineers that they don't want to be mass murderers
This is BS as they are obviously just trying to set up a lowering of restrictions for H1B's and itar controlled sites (god forbid its classified as well, there's already enough Chinese infiltrators) The US elite are a special kind of evil.
>>526177322I literally got DEI'd out of the aerospace industry. I now have my own business doing 3D printed drone parts and high end CNC for rocketry and aeronautical applications, bits and pieces for cars and coffee machines as well. You'd be amazed at how profitable the coffee machine shit is.I'm making more money than ever and when WW3 ramps up i'll be making enough money to fund political aspirations and the social climate will be just right i'd wager.No White cunt with real skills is working for anyone but themselves anymore and we're certainly not working for the benefit of the cunts who have tried to institutionally and demographically replace us.
>>526178756>Puerto RicoOh.
>>526177322>keep local population out of important fields during education years to protect boomersoooh noooo we can't find new talent that is willing to work for peanuts
>Indians and trannies are proven incapable scabsWell well well, how the turntables on you? Was that quick dollar worth it, Raytheon? Those engineers you refused to hire? They're working for China, scooped right out of a McDonalds. They give them anything they want. They want money, prestige, and privileges, they get it.If they want a wife, they get one. If they want ladyboy bussy, they get a 7 day vacation to Thailand. If they want a noisy nigger/jeet neighbor gone, they get arrested and sent to a Uighur labor campWhat do you have to offer that's actually better than that?
>>526177322Raytheon has to CREATE talented engineers by way of genius sperm donation therapy. Pay women to use the sperm of talented men with qualities that would make a great engineer.We need to start 'engineering' human beings to boost our human capital. Sperm donation therapy is the easiest way to go about doing this.
>>526177602Funny thing is it's not even enough for a studio in a major city. If you found a wife who made similar money to you, you could maybe swing that kind of money for a mortgage now.
>>526177322i am a young talented engineer
>>526177322what a pointless thread. boomer was complaining about nothing in a casual conversation and this guy makes a tweet about it, then (You) make a 4chan thread
>>526178019>There are a lot of engineers that just aren't getting hired because they are white and white people aren't what investors want.Today your company has to have a high ESG score or your company wont be able to roll over its debt mountain it picked up during the low interest era when CEOs made mint on their stock options by having the company giving out its capital as divends and replacing it with cheap debt. This means no hiring of white people because employing white people really drops your ESG score.
>>526177322almost like nobody wants to work for jews blowing up children
>>526177427STEM including IT "engineers" makes it a worthless They want mechs obviously
Could be because people in STEM (intelligent and driven people) don't want to work for the genocide company.
>>526177473*who are non-white and non-male identifying
>>526177322H1Bs will fix this problem
>>526178867>You'd be amazed at how profitable the coffee machine shit is.How so?
>>526177418Fpbp. Also kikes hate white people and reject them from college while also turning college to shit. KIKES RAPE KIDS
>>526179356they would if it paid. but it doesn't. they want just another wage slave cog. paid a high number! but in a high cost area you're in debt every year so youll never get ahead.
>>526178867do you have any tips for starting a business?my startup costs alone are like $7500 and that's with zero customers locked in beforehand, seems extremely risky
>>526177686I think libertarian anti-dei approach to "abolish civil rights" is already unworkable because too much of the dei shit is baked in. Instead, EEOC should be reformed into a "meritocracy and fairness" agency that would punish companies for hiring incompetent blacks BUT ALSO try to investigate nepotistic hiring, all this networking bullshit should be outright illegal in large corporations. The let market decide ship has sailed
>>526177322>raytheonist hat a pokeymang???
>>526177322Defence doesn’t pay unless you get clearance. Most of these grad jobs are underpaid relative to other industries. If I live in LA, you can’t survive of a 100-120k defence job. And you can go get 200+ in oil and gas.Engineer wages across the board are being stagnated by H1B workers flooding the market. That’s why clearance jobs actually pay well, because you aren’t in competition with them.
>>526179066Do you think if some rich person or massive corporation offered to give free room and board to women and like a yearly allowance of like $40,000-$50,000 in exchange for being surrogate mothers to bunch of engineering nerds, would there women who take it?
>>526177418This pretty much, a lot of capable engineers are applying but they are getting filtered by the malicious HR roasties for no good reason and the guy at the top is too high in his ivory tower to even notice what's going on.
>>526177322Time for a TRVKEWhen normal people see 'We want young engineers', what they think of is - >new grad>21-25 years old>little to no experience>local>80-90k USD salaryBut what companies REALLY mean is - >25-30 years old>5-10 years experience>willing to move anywhere in the US>60-70k USD salaryThe problem is that there IS a lack of engineers in the US, but its that critical mid career range that companies are looking for, not new grads and not boomers. And other, competing companies will try their hardest to hold onto engineers in that age/experience range because they typically bring the most value to a company. Companies, including Raytheon, want engineers with some work experience to show that said engineers aren't total retards, anti-social, or fuckups, and aren't interested in training some new 21 year old Gen Z who will have moral issues with anything and everything a company like Raytheon does.
>>526177897I'm a senior engineer verging on staff engineer at a highly well known top 20 US tech company. Doesn't mean I don't feel bad for the zoomies that can't get a job. 100% of the new hires here have been Indian contract hires out of Canada to evade the H1B tax.
raytheon doesn't have any issues like that herewe have apprenticeships for these issuesThe real niggers here are BAE. Might as well be potluck on what you get for an apprenticeship.
>>526177322why don't they hire a black woman? I'd rather work for the Chinese at this point you fucking jews
>>5261773221) I tried to study engineering in college but learned after arriving to orientation week that it was a "limited enrollment" program you had to apply for in senior year of high school after being accepted.2) It was full of chinks, half of whom just went back to China to work for the PLA. Somehow the US government "missed" that this was happening in their core talent tracks. "Hurr got to attract world talent".3) "America is rich and fun and free so world talent will always prefer to be here." Proceed to sabotage youth culture with DARPA sponsored anti-male pro-faggot bullshit, tell white men and even asian men they are scum of the Earth and unwanted. Put drug addict drama kids in charge of everything. Don't police cities. Make living in filth and crime cool. In place like Austin or even Greenville, SC where it might still be a good place to live, immediately import millions of Hindus whom literally everyone hates.4) All my adult life be told I'm not eligible for awards or promotions because too many white guys.5) Admissions office at other unis asked why I did no clubs and I said I had no ride home because I had a single mom. "Single mom?" *checks notes* "oh you're not black so we don't give a fuck, but that was allmmost an adversity story". I also was an Eagle Scout and spent the vast majority of my free time with Scouts - of which I had little for going to a Magnet program where it was five times as hard to get an A but they didn't account for that with my GPA. They said "We don't know what Eagle Scout means."5) After being a military officer, with GI Bill, apply again and am told, "You can't do engineering because we don't accept 2d bachelors at this school."6) My SAT was 1580 and I was told that was "too high for my grades" (GPA 3.5) so rather than think they could encourage and develop me as potential top talent, they cast me in a ditch to be someone else's problem. Like my father, teachers, commanders, etc.6) FUCK the MIC.Get it?
>>526177418All the men who love computer science give women the ick, so they become incels, and have no incentive to work, and they also know that Sukdeep's fake degree is more valuable than a real CS degree from a good school, if the applicant is a White male.End result: all programmers and engineers will be incompetent Jeets.All babies will be druggie spawn dole monkeys.>But who is going to bomb Israel's enemies if everyone is subhuman?IDK, not my problem, Jews should have thought of that 60 years ago.
>>526178511200k is the new 100k, its not the 90s anymore. it’s what self respecting engineers should strive for.Avocados is cali cost a buck, half makes toast. Vegetables on bread is not a fancy meal, it’s the CA equivalent of bongs eating beans on toastRemote work is mostly bullshit though I agree
>>526177561Some of these boomer managers don't even know their HR department is doing this. They're like in denial and just blame young white guys for not asking girls out or something.
>>526177322When a college offers a (((humanities))) degree then that entire institution is focused solely on making retards and will never produce a quality student. But who gives a shit? Let (((Raytheon))) crumble, we do not need (((technology))), we need homesteaders and even a 65 iq retard can grow a garden. Fuck (((learning))).
>>526179806this is also true. Biggest thing, a lot of Gen Z people cannot get clearances due to drug usage, criminal history, or moral reasons (IE social media posts). You're technically not supposed to be issued a security clearance if you consume cannabis is any amount, although I'm not sure how strict they are with that these days.
>>526177602Fuck you. It would have been in 2004. It's dogshit now, the equivalent of $40k which was BARE MINIMUM for college graduation back then, WITH THE ASSUMPTION it was an apprenticeship wage that would imminently be raised once you were producing value.
>>526177473That isn't it, the average Rtx job posting has literally hundreds of applicants.They're just lying to push for more H1Bs and a loosening of rules on hiring citizens.
>>526178511To have the same buying power boomers working at mcdonals had in the 60s they'd need $300/hr
>>526177602I make more than that and I am a college dropout lmao. Not a great deal for a kid graduating with 5 or 6 figures of student loan debt.
>>526178867Genuinely interested in going this route. I’m surrounded by launch facilities in CA and currently have a few hundred k cash to start a business.How do you identify parts that are worth making in aerospace?
>>526178590Who you know only works in government any more. Corporations are too unstable now to depend on even if you know somebody.
>>526180050Man the job market really is exactly like dating market now. LinkedIn may as well be a Match Group app.
>>526177800They're even filtering white guys out of the schools>Damn we can't find any qualified black lesbian engineering students, guess we have to shut down some classes and fire some professors
>>526177322>not willing to train>not willing to payThey just want the perfectly shaped human for the cheapest price. Sorry buddy, labor market isn't like that anymore. Looks like you all have to adapt :^)
>>526180340i can remember $45k/year being decent salary when i was a kid. my mom made at least that much and was able to afford a suburban home + raise 2 kids (alone). it's impossible now on that salary
>>526179884Surrogates are 100s of thousands
>>526177322maybe you can loot some from germany againoh wait, you made everyone here gay and retarded
>>526177602Anon, they work you as a contractor so they don't even give you Healthcare or other benefits. 50% of that is gong to be going to taxes. $80k-$90k poverty in the contracting world
>>526177322Maybe people don't want to stare a screen 10 hours a day and scramble to find contracts while evil feminists, faggots and other DEI hires hover over their shoulders like hawks.Just my personal theory.
>>526180432Having a good amount of experience in your early 30s is like being a 6'5, 200 lbs (lean), gigachad making $200k on Tinder. Being a 21 year old with no experience is like being a 5'5 manlet that weighs 300 lbs (fat), and works at McDonalds.
>>526180591The 50k is after everything. Room, board, healthcare, and food would all be taken care of pre-salary.
>>526180649Are you sure Anon? Why would filthy pedophile thieving kikes have any effect on interest of doing work?
How much money have the John Galts at Raytheon invested in education?Oh that's right. Nothing. Keep pulling from China. Lmao.
>>526177882AI can't do shit because who's going to run the AI and check it to make sure it didn't just spit out a bunch of nonsense that looks 'right?' Certainly not a tech illiterate boomer.
>>526177322India's time to shine
>>526180179THIS
>>526177322They should ask their Indian hiring managers why they are rejecting all white applicants.
>>526177939Even back in the 2000s I was wary of engineering (which I should have tried harder to do some version of, though many of the departments were gatekept even back then against white guys). The way it seemed to me back then was that like 50% of engineering grads would end up never working in engineering and that seemed like bullshit odds for 4 years of college. I had the impression that engineers wouldn't be hired in white collar work, only in engineering, and you needed like business or communications training or something to be a white collar.But really, it's cheap ass boomers like Mitt Romney and the Judeo-Demonic Big 4 "consultants" who told companies to only hire what they absolutely needed in talent right then and there, rather than develop a long term talent pool that would possibly be needed later.One of the greatest joys of our age is the Zionists are NOW FUCKED because they chuckled and looked the other way when the liberal Jews went to total war on young white men. It's really fucking them up now.A lot of the strategic thinking "experts" that the deep state zionist apparatus relies on to inform the rabbis of what tech or plans are needed for their efforts are nepotism hire total drug addicts. Zonk'd out retards larping about AR integration, carbon climate runaway. If you think about it, since the 90s our economy and tech progress has been one bullshit hype after another. clearly strategically thought out tools, they go all in on, and none of it works.Did anyone see the Alex Karp investor meeting where he brags to his Jew investors about how fucked the goyim are? He was zonk'd out of this fucking melon.Dudes like that don't create reliable strategies.There's 18th century rabbis rolling in their fucking graves over these dipshit jews in charge now.Remember that the way modern Jews got their foot into the door of world power was by building the Hansa grain trading apparatus which literally saved lives. Insidious but competent.
>>526177322>Why are young men dropping out?The answer is always the same, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. People dont want to spend 200k to graduate from a very difficult program, only to enter a job that is absolute shit. Its hard enough to get hired while being a straight white male, and even if you do, you will be the workhorse for incompetent women and minorities that make double your salary.Maybe, just maybe, the top 1% of 1% of IQ has figured out that it isn't worth being treated like shit all day for a job that now pays the same as a Wendy's night manager now that infinity jeets have fucked the job market.The solution is also always the same: if you build it they will come. Create a job environment that treats people with dignity and pays them enough to live like human beings and qualified people will beat a path to your door.
>>526177602It's around 100k for entry level right now but most engineers suck so if you are one of the few that work you can get promoted 2-3 times in a few years. It is less than silicon valley but I despise califag yuppies so i'm fine make 50k less and being far away from them.>>526177686>this is a big unspoken thing. you could be a genius and be over qualified, but if you are not likeable no one wants you.You just have to be a kiss-ass, at first. Say please and thank you and that you love the job and all your coworkers no matter how incompetent they are.Once you are there a while, rise up a bit, and have seniority you can start being more honest and critical of things.I'm an autistic introvert and all the management know it and don't care because they can't get anybody who can do the work, it would take years to train them, and they would still probably struggle so I can mostly do what I want.Sure they like Mr. Popularity who hangs at the bar with them every night but they ultimately need a certain number of people who actually work to function.>>526177882>Engineers and stem grads are fucked. AI can do what these monkeys do much betterIt can't, in defense you have to actually actually work with physical equipment. It is not like techshit webdev and Twitter.
>>526178051All money outside of Chinese made electronics and shit furniture is 2x the price levels of 2000 now. A lot of that happened since 2019 though.Housing is 5x. Healthcare 3.5xTry buying non chinkshit furniture. Most of those companies are out of business. Expensive AF now.
>>526177427they want 10 years of experience at 50k a year. they arent lying about not being able to find people. they are just lying about the "why".
>>526177322American corporations have lost the ability to train and pipeline talent.decades of relying on H1-B's has made them incompetent.now the older workers are leaving, they're going to hit a wall.Academia never adjusted either.Just poor leadership all around
>>526177427You don’t hate boomer white men nearly enough.
>>526178116Everyone who got brought in an developed as talent pre-2012, who still works in that expertise, are all making $250k+ as a baseline, usually more like $300k with a $150k basic bitch lawyer wife or anesthesiologist or something.Most of the basic middle class white talent who was grandfathered in making dual income like $700k.Their impression is that life is still affordable but feeling a teensy pinchy.
>>526180292They don’t care if you’ve done pot lmao. A lot of these jobs are in Hawthorne, LA where weed is legal anyway. They care about if you’ll lie about it.The social media thing is true though, these kids getting posting anti American stuff because they are all radicalised by ticktok are fucked
>>526177427>Maybe this boomer/his friend/Raytheon is lyingRaytheon's automatic AI HR program is auto-denying anyone applicable for nonsense and insane reasons.We put insane retarded robots in charge of finding employees. Then they put AI in charge and ran screaming out of the room.
WANTED: someone urgently needed to collect quarters at the end of the day
OP's post is a work of fiction btw. It's just doomer grifting.
>>526177602(((AI))) slop. No thanks fucker.
>>526177790>viets or burundianshow are they going to hire star wars people
>>526177427>Thats really strange because I know tons of top tier STEM grads struggling to find jobs>Maybe this boomer/his friend/Raytheon is lyingAll the new grads want to be remote and work for MS, Google and Twitter, they generally do not even know defense is a thing.In the past the industry did cater to boomers but they can't at this point because all of the boomers are getting dementia and retiring.They are at the point of taking anybody with a pulse.They also have strict requirements for national security and clean records that naturally filters most browns and jeets.
>>526177322Let me translate what he meant:"We can't find talented engineers who want to work for 0.5$ an hour!!!!"
>>526177322I'm never trusting anything companies say ever again.Whenever I applied to a job with supposed "scarcities" they tell me I'm like the 30th person to apply and ask me what makes me better than the others.I arrive at worksites with terrible conditions where they tell me it's great that I'm here but there are like eight other people who can basically do the job just fine without me.The whole thing is a fucking joke, employers are doing fine, they just enjoy crying crocodile tears when they got one open position next to 29 motivated workers.>but anon it's actually the specialized jobs that are vacantYeah sure, like pilots rights? You keep hearing about that, pilot shortages. Turns out there are actually plenty of pilots but they struggle to meet their mandated hours so they are considered unfit for work.You also got tons of IT workers getting fired or replaced by jeets but supposedly the IT sector still has a huge demand for skilled workers and they cry endlessly about how they cannot find anyone.It's all lies, it's all goddamn lies I tell you. Never trust companies, none of them are honest or decent.
>>526177602lmao, I wouldn't even piss at their toilets for 90k if that offer doesn't come with a super cute white wife attached to itshould be 1m/year at least
>>526179884It's currently too expensive to do that here because this country is overregulated. The corporations could still offer free 'genius sperm' to women in the USA. Best to 'farm people' in the developing world, where living is cheap. I envision corporations paying women in, say, Brazil, to use genius sperm donors, and then accepting the smart ones to come to the USA or join the corporation workforce domestically, and they'd pay the family a 'headhunter' fee.
>>526177322 My dad works for RTX. The pool of clearable talent is small, especially because nearly all zoomera are marijuana-addicted. The cleared engineering community is small and often requires very niche specializations that make sourcing new employees a time-consuming process - especially if they're being brought in totally uncleared to work in special access programs. A TS + program clearance can take a year and a half or longer.
>>526180986>hey chuckled and looked the other way when the liberal Jews went to total war on young white men. It's really fucking them up now.is it really though? it really seems like they're managing without us and instead of them failing they just print more money which makes life even worse for us. all of the "blowoff valves" like silver, cheap entertainment, etc. just increase in value but no actual consequences hit the people with all of the money.the system is engineered directly against labor
>>526177322Maybe people just don't want to build advanced weaponry to slaughter people for jews? You ever think of that?
>>526181823post some good and full stuff, leaf faggot
>>526178019US companies destroyed themselves the past decade by lowering standards and chasing lower wages. Engineers would gatekeep to prevent people who didn't know what they were doing from getting in. Now that there are no standards, we have bridges that are falling down, constant cloud outages, and OS patches that bring down most of the country.
>>526180349>>526177537RTX is US citizen only. Even the janitors have security clearances often.
>>526178120MBA was killed off post-2008>bad reputation>death of financial industrial, most banks close>stock market becomes fake - it's all BlackRock and the Fed plunge protection; stock valuation isn't tied to anything real so studying finance is kind of pointless as a non-sorcerer deep in the know, even MFc is garbage for most grads>DEI means that Business Schools hard have to lower quantitative standards because brown people literally can't do math but can do powerpoints, quantitative skills, head math on CAPEX etc. being the single core compentancy of a MBA holder.>Now business schools most teach EBITDA, Marketing, Socialism and Climate Change.
>>526177322My company didn't hire anyone for 1.5 years, then when they decided to hire someone it was a jeet who lied about his experience
>>526178431There aren't given-out-like-candy-from-a-predator $200k loans for "just starting a business." But if you want to go to collerge..
>>526181100>Not dumpster diving or collecting antique furniture the boomers/gen x'ers throw out >Not crafting his own furniturengmi
>>526177561You're an idiot. DOD/ITAR work can't be outsourced.>>526177758I work in defense and our entry level engineers make $85K, which is kind of shitty in Los Angeles. Anduril is stealing all our experience talent because they have VC-startup level salary scales
>>526177322probably true i graduated like 5 years ago and there was a year old raytheon embedded dev position open i interviewed they even said theyd train me i hardly had any embedded dev experience but they wanted me to move out of my city instead of working remote so i said no in the end
>>526177322>Play stupid games>Win stupid prizesWho could have warned them (the billionaire/managerial class) that decades of discriminating the nerdy white men and replacing them with whatever human sludge they can find will lead into an irreversible competency crisis and collapse of their empires. If only these top leaders, engineers and experts could have found someone wise enough to warn them. If only.
>>526181491Lmao, defense companies advertise openings at all major colleges. I did my degree a couple years ago, and we'd routinely have "guest lectures" from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc.The reality is recent Aerospace Engineering graduates have a higher unemployment rate than Art History majors. The talent pipeline is dead because companies only hire personal connections and H1Bs.
>>526178867Aren't you a youtuber or something? I think there was a guy on Backlash that fucked with drone parts or Dad Saves America or something? Or Raymond, lol.
>>526178873No taxes, nice weather, beaches, sweet enclaves for the wealthy>oh
>>526181351>>526181361>>526181362>>526181372>>526181389>>526181477>>526181484>>526181489>>526181495pltr bot malfunctioning
>>526181811>>526179403>Maybe people just don't want to build advanced weaponry to slaughter people for jews? You ever think of that?You think it is better working for Google and commie tech companies monitoring everyone 24/7, brainwashing, and sterilizing people for the jews?
>>526179609>do you have any tips for starting a business?I'd say think about what your goals are beyond money then figure out what business will help you achieve them, what business will first and foremost serve your ends, what's going to keep you really motivated, beyond that it's really going to depend on your skillset mate. With the global economy going to shit i've looking to service the top 5%, they're going to be the only ones with real money in the years to come. I'm planning to go into drone based security services so instead of just jeets patrolling gated communities, it'll be drones that the customers can remotely view. There's going to be a lot of rich cunts afraid for their lives in the years to come, fear is very profitable. Just so we're clear, I don't support them, but I will fucking fleece them and use their money against them and position myself to fuck them and compromise them when the time is right.If you're just looking for some easy cash without much investment, virtually no overhead, no need to have stock on hand and you can just ramp it up/down easily, get something like a elegoo saturn 4 ultra and start printing bootleg Warhammer armies. The customers will find you.>>526179538>How so?Spare part costs on a 40k La Marzocco are insane and wogs are cheap cunts. You can do a lot of it for well below RRP, charge them 80% of RRP make a killing with quick turn around because every hour a machine is down they're losing a fortune.>bots are big madLMFAOHH
>>526177322Why should people fill the positions these demon worshipping world ending faggots want? Let this dystopian shitshow go to hell, one can say its even genetic that the youth are outright declining to do any of the newly added functions of the modern world. This kike system and the so called "jobs" of today are an abomination to mankind and our spirit. Let it crash and burn, thousands of years of normalcy trampled and ridiculed as old fashioned, to be replaced with what? Brutalism and nihilism. The kikes and their tech golems are scared that the only capable ones pushing this hellworld into existence are opting out. Thank God they were dumb enough to hire jeets who will poop in their plans and bring about an end to their plans sooner.
>>526179393Yeah, you're thinking of hhelpdesk. It engineering/architecture is a real skill.
>>526177322So they have been looking for someone for 2 years and still haven't found anyone, have you considered that the hiring process is shit?
>>526177537They don't, it's a collosal legal nightmare doing any DoD stuff with immigrants and security clearance. Raytheon doesn't have an issue recuiting, the guy is just trying to namedrop them to appear more important than he is.
>>526179403Faggot. Making bombs for the army is less harmful than working for a social media company
>>526181610I wouldn't work for RTX for less than $3 million a year. Yes the work conditions are really that terrible, or so I've heard.
Why don't they train them or offer more money
>>526177322Oh no, ZOG's military-industrial complex can't find enough qualified STEM types to help them drone strike us when we get uppity.
>>526177322Maybe if they didn't have a faggot name people would want to work there
>>526177322What happened to their precious street shitters?
>>526182357How do you print the exact parts? Isn't there some legal bullshit?
>>526177602LOL. I know basic-bitch construction workers who make more than that.
>>526177322Well yeah niggers don't study engineering, and women are retarded.
>>526181973They do hire H1Bs, but only a small number. It seems like they prefer to outsource engineering roles instead.
>>526177322Hmm I wonder what the problem might be?>that's a good salary!no it's not
>>526177427its my understanding that most digital hrs primary concern is filter to prevent unions, so if you have a similar background education and morales as people already working there the computer filters you out.
>>526180389First get a job in aerospace and identify the bottlenecks. Then spin off a company.
>>526182809maybe Amazon should do more defense contracting
>>526182183RTX is global, they have a lot of job openings in India, this isn't only about DOD work and that was never specified in the op. Companies constantly lie about not being able to find US talent so they can get cheaper outsourced workers.
>>526182357The truth is simply: everything sells.. including photographs of 40 year old roasty's anus.It's purely a matter of finding the suckers, or them finding you.
>>526181811Faggot detected.
>>526177322>What Raytheon says is happeningOMG no one is majoring in any of this stuff so we can't hire anyone>What is actually happeningWe want 20 years experience and a PhD for an entry level position working with AutoCAD that a fucking highschooler could do.
>>526182242>only hire personal connectionsThis is partially true but tradies do this same gatekeeping and it helps keep niggers and degenerates out.People on here say that they oppose equity BS but get mad about discrimination when they see it in practice.Reality is that they can't really do it at this point because they need too many people. Not every engineer has a kids to hire and most want to be leftists califags so they won't apply anyway.>H1Bs.Have not seen this at all. Remote work isn't really a thing outside HR roasties. I've seen like one or two jeets who were citizens and I work across offices all over the country. It is at least 80% white male for engineers.
>>526178431Have you seen the failure rate of small businesses? It's far riskier for the lender than an educated worker bee.
>>526183110$95k is a shit salary because houses in any place that's worth living in are like a million dollars.Also see the alternative options for comparable roles >>526182989All you prove with your little percentile factoid is how fucking poor the vast majority of the country is.But MIGA right? Lmao
>>526177322foreign curry niggers and chinks get priority in every engineering school now. Unfortunately they can't get clearance to work on defense projects, so congrats on shooting yourself in the fucking foot so as not to offend genocidal liberal communists. Meanwhile Russia prioritizes the education of its own youth and as a result their hypersonic systems literally wipe the floor with anything America has.
>>526183023No hiring manager in the US is complaining about the talent pipeline in India. RTX's customers in the USA are mostly DOD and universally USGov. They all require security clearances for their contract work.
>>526180895Sure, look what that "Indian talent" did to Boeing. >>526180973Yep.
>>526183110I’m that part of Virginia that’s poverty wages.
>>526180904When I told all my rich boomer uncles that you had to apply while STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL after already being accepted to the college, to get into the actually good departments at the school (rather than the bullshit "state school" humanities departments), they didn't believe me.They were sympathetic to me, and said shit like, "But college is all about figuring out what's interesting to you during freshman year, maybe longer, then committing to a major."But like I said, they subconsciously just refused to believe what I was saying because it was so contradictory to their experience and what they think not only America is but what it ought to be and they have no answer as to how it stopped being what they thought it was.Of course the answer is the Hart-Cellar immigration destroyed American upper middle class life particularly for Millennials and onward.What the fuck with all these Chinks? They were barely here in 1965.
>>526183277>any place that's worth living in are like a million dollars.California and New York are not worth living in.What are the amazing things there other then massive faggotry that you feel make it worth living the pod life for 300K in rent?
>>526177427>>526177418>>526177322The reality is they want a slave and pay nothing.I bet HR also filters out a bunch if whites and Asians for their skin color
>>526182168What a retarded comment. I'm talking about price levels and what the economy is capable of producing under its current structure.
>>526182183>DOD/ITAR work can't be outsourced.Lol, just lol.They don't check what Amazon is outsourcing, just whether the gay little Falls Church SCIF is up to code for the sparse management office that receives the contract.
>>526181973>>526182758Yep, there's always some kind of pilpul behind rats like these who claim they "only hire citizens." And these are the companies shutting Americans out of the job market, so Americans can't make a living and instead have to join the military and die for these very same Jewish pedos who lobby for the killing of Americans. Absolutely disgusting.
>>526182183Fucking kill yourself ZOG traitor.
>>526183613>What are the amazing things there other then massive faggotryJobs>make it worth living the pod life for 300K in rent?Did you miss the part about buying a house?
>>526177322Skill issue
>>526177322That's fine and all that. Could be 100% true. Still doesn't change the fact that jeets are not good engineers unless they have studied in the US. If the US isn't producing these engineers, no one is. And if someone has to go to a US university to become a good engineer, there is no argument at all for allowing foreigners to take those spots. And we don't have a shortage of kids trying to attend college.
>make school cost the same as a second mortgage>give hiring preferences to third worlders with fake degrees they got in their home country for 1/1000th the costs>hmm why can't we find good talent
>>526177322That's not the plot of Atlas Shrugged
>>526177427Yeah it's such obvious bullshit.
>>526177322Minor typo:*minor engineers with a dick and tits.... cause you know that's how us federals like 'emHAHAHAHA, fucking faggot pedofile protectors
>>526183110Because the economy is dead and 80% of the country is paycheck to paycheck. Especially if you didn't buy your home in 1997.The country is legitimately fucked.What happened is the economy category that was in the top 8% has expanded to the top 16% but other than that the country is broker than every.
>>526183824I'm talking about people who work at Amazon because Raytheon pays peanuts. You're talking about some other group of personal enemies you discovered on Twitter.
>>526177427>Thats really strange because I know tons of top tier STEM grads struggling to find jobsVivek and Jeetlon will say that it's because US kids watch too much saved by the bell instead of paying attention in their top tier STEM programs.
>>526183162WTF retarded response is this? What do trades have to do with conversation goalpost moving kike faggot?
>>526183776Can't wait to see you in the cross hairs in the scif
>>526183510I can't stop reading those middle ones in the blue in jeet voiceover in my head
>>526177322that guys full of shit Robbie the know nothing
>>526183613>not worth living in.More like UNLIVEABLE unless you are in a $1 million house neighborhood, bare minimum.
>>526183336I've personally seen a large defense contractor sponsor immigrants for citizenship, then grant them clearances as soon as they're legally eligible. So no, not even born American citizens will continue to have the upper hand, as long as these corporations are run by Jews and staffed by their pet Jeets. They still might be the most "White" in America, but believe me, they're trying to change that too. They do have a plan for Americans - to be sent to their deaths in Jewish wars to make stock line go up.These aren't even American companies anymore, but global companies which wave the American flag everytime they need tax breaks or see an opportunity to profit sending Americans to their death. Again, absolutely disgusting.
>>526183731Wow, it's a hidden merchant AND a remphan
>>526184004Lol. Imagine bragging about this.Imagine doxxing as a drone fag.
>>526177602I make that a purchaser. That's poverty tier money in 2026 when rent is $2700 a month
>>526177322>I'm a real estate investorOh look, the problem is complaining about the problem.Aaaaand he doesn't fucking know. Brainlet.
>>526184108I really don't believe this. No employer is going to bet on naturalization and then clearability. At best, they might hire an uncleared specialist with a contingency that they obtain a clearance before the start date.
>>526184306Yeah no shit.Fuck these nigger faggots. Want to charge $2000, a month for a bedroom and then ask why people don't want to work anymore
>>526177427Same. Why not hire a fresh mechanical/electrical,/chemical engineer graduate and uhhhh have him trained and be an apprentice to more experienced engineers in your company. Within 2 years and with like a $200k investment you will have a productive worker who will probably be loyal to the company. But I guess the multibillion dollar company can't afford that and would rather import a jeet who can't even manage to shit in a toilet
>>526184108The American military and economy aren't even American anymore.America was meant to be part of the UK Globohomo/EU bloc but Jews are shifting their assets out of it right now and will pull the rug on it.There's literally one question which is what to do with the nukes and nuke plants after Israel pulls the rug and flees to South America.Even if the US is nuked to oblivion, some nukes in bunkers might survive so there has to be a more decisive solution than that.I predict techno city state enclaves with Anduril protection and consolidation of nukes until they are slowly transferred or decommissioned.What's the analogy for this?Honestly, sort of Canaan post bronze-age collapse. Low level population centers and major cities were nuked by raiders, and populations moved to hilltop fortresses to continually raid a multinational no-man's land until Assyria arrived.
>>526177758I worked for Raytheon when I first graduated as a Systems Engineer (ME degree though). I started at 60k in 2012. I kept in touch with people though and during covid, the market went crazy. STEM starting engineers is absolutely around 90k (in the defense sector) and at RTX specifically. I am now at 200k at a different company, but I did fast track a bit because skills.
>>526177322>oh gosh, we just arent getting engineering majors anymore>guess we need more Indian migrants labor, not other choiceThere's a massive reserve army of engineering students, either youre lying about applications or you want to pay minimum wage for a position that requires a masters and nobody is that dumb.
>>526183832>JobsThere are jobs all over the country>Did you miss the part about buying a house?Houses do not cost a million in the rest of the country.You need a 300K job so you can live hand to mouth to buy a mediocre home in California? Doesn't make much sense. You have less disposable income then people in the midwest.I make 150K my house is paid off and I keep over 3/4 of my paycheck each month.>>526184049>More like UNLIVEABLE unless you are in a $1 million house neighborhood, bare minimum.I truly do not understand what makes so many people so absolutely desperate to devote their entire life to trying to live in the absolute faggiest most communist part of the country. They must have some really damn amazing bars and clubs there.
>>526178777>fresh out of collegehousing pricesWhat kind of entitled twat thinks their starting salary should afford them a house?
>>526184595>There are jobs all over the countrybullshit, outside major metropolitan areas there are very few jobs, which is why housing prices are low because if you live there there is no work so everyone is moving away. fucking retard.
>>526177322Checked, they just refuse to hire white men.
>>526183611>What the fuck with all these Chinks? They were barely here in 1965.Europeans are strong because their inability to get long with each other leads to "stone-to-diamond" polishing and mutual respect for each other. Asians are strong because they find it fun.
>>526179393In the defense sector, they really don't care what stem degree you have. They will make you an "engineer". I know plenty of math, physics, SW, mechanical, electrical that are doing all of the above outside of their degree for RTX and others. If you can solve problems AND are relatively normal, you will be fine. Nobody likes working for quirky high-maintenance people.
also, I'm a technician in a high tech company and I cleared $115k last year (working about 10h of overtime a week) and meanwhile our engineers are paid like $70-80k and they have to work late sometimes and take calls from home. I'm hourly and if I have to comedo any work on my off days I bill the company 4 hours of overtime, even if it only took me one hour. i will never work salary. They asked me to apply for an engineering position as I have an engineering degree and I'm good at the job, but I always decline.
>>526184595>There are jobs all over the country>Houses do not cost a million in the rest of the countryGreat. Give me an example of a job I could get in whichever place you're thinking of that could lead to me owning a home.>>526184622>What kind of entitled twat thinks their starting salary should afford them a house?The kind that saves nothing when on that salary, knows the cost of rent goes up every year, and knows the salary they'll be paid 10 years later still won't afford them a house.
>>526183964>WTF retarded response is this? What do trades have to do with conversation goalpost moving kike faggot?My point it that they do this in any majority white company. You either want to have your cake and eat it to, or you want them to open the doors to foreigners and browns.
I work for a Raytheon-tier defense contractor and for the last ~2 years HR has only been sending us diversity applicants.Pretty sure they're just not allowed to hire wypipo anymore
>>526184932>>526177602i work for RTX and we still grab college kids all the time. we just dont offer them great pay.. because we dont have to. i dont know why the guy is complaining in OP, we have lots of people applying all the time. hes just mad we dont cant get cream of the crop for cheap anymore.
We all get shafted by hiring / HR. Ive worked at Raytheon. GPS 3 was the program (which is finally in space) all the top talent and leads got shafted and left.>be the exact candidate they hire>get the job>be the exact candidate but we're talking big money years later>WHY WILL NOBODY WORK HERE NOBODY APPLIES IT ISNT RAYTHEON
>>526177322>how difficult it was for us to find a qualified maintenance coordinatorthis is the real problem, retards like this thinking theres just thousands of skilled workers just sitting waiting at home to be recruited by these uneducated entrepreneurs who expect to make millions while their skilled employees rarely break 100k. The only way to get a skilled worker is to entice him away from his current employment. Thats why they go for indians because they can easily be enticed to leave india. these leftists who want to save the planet and defend every country is happy to suck india dry of all their skilled workers, leaving the country to go to shit.
>>526184863>Great. Give me an example of a job I could get in whichever place you're thinking of that could lead to me owning a home.Software Engineer, Defense Industry, Midwest or Florida.
>>526185019We're 'low-bid' contract so they're trying to get first-world quality at third-world prices.For us it was about 45 black and maybe 4-5 asian applicants HR gave us, in a state/city that's 80% caucasion.
>>526183162Yeah. This is bullshit. I work in the manufacturing industry with literal rooms full of engineers of all different fields. Everyone under 40 is either a jeet, arab, or asian.
Why don't they just train people? Why not hire youngsters with good aptitude for maths and physics, then just teach them what they need to know to do the job?
>>526184878no you're a lying faggot saying that companies tried to hire whites to "gatekeep" and you're completely ignoring jewish blackrock created ESG investing forcing every company to hire non-whites, which is thoroughly documented as having happened, and it was funded by the US government giving blackrock trillions of dollars so they would keep the bond market afloat.https://archive.is/DzWON
>>526185173
>>526185358>Yeah. This is bullshit. I work in the manufacturing industry with literal rooms full of engineers of all different fields. Everyone under 40 is either a jeet, arab, or asian.And they work for a US government defense contractor?
>>526185173>Florida.i live in florida you retard, homes are one million dollars for a 3 bed 2 bath 1500sqft house in a safe neighborhood. keep lying more.
>>526182357>Spare part costs on a 40k La Marzocco are insane and wogs are cheap cunts. You can do a lot of it for well below RRP, charge them 80% of RRP make a killing with quick turn around because every hour a machine is down they're losing a fortune.How do you get the parts to reverse engineer them?
>>526177502This for sure. I was trying to hire 2 forensic accountants and our HR department kept sending me woeful applicants. After weeks of demanding to see all applications, the CEO forced them to provide the documents. Lo and behold, the resumes they weren't giving me at the start were fantastic, but the sticking point was that they were all highly qualified men with European surnames. The HR drones are as responsible as anyone for the current state of the West
>>526184595There are no jobs in all of America nigger, let alone major cities. Fuck off boomer kike.
>>526177418How will societies cope with this? How will savants and inventors exist when women actively sexually select against them? Won't whoever gets women to heel first, and allows geniuses to exist in their society again get a massive tech advantage and out compete them? What evolutionary or natural selection advantage does it give your people when women to ensure no geniuses are born or nurtured? Or will people finally be ready to admit female sexual selection is no longer eugenic?
>>526177322Of course they can't. They're looking at India for all their hires. Talent comes from European stock.
>>526185360>Why don't they just train people?Once they're trained they'll go somewhere else that pays better.
>>526184835You're also all traitor faggots serving Jews who want to kill you.
>>526177418FPBP
>your country will simply forfeit it's technological advantage because some boomer won't pay a decent salary and HR roasties only view Chad as a human
>>526177322Nigger, I applied to Raytheon seven years ago with a Physics PhD and didn't get a single interview.Bunch of idiots running their entire hiring process.I the (for fun) applied to a different department and only claimed to have a Master's and actually got an interview.Then Covid happened and they halted all hiring and I gave up with them.
>>526185173>software engineerYou're showing your age. It's all Hindus now.>defenseTraitors>MidwestNo jobs>FloridaAre you fucking kidding me? No jobs and shitty and expensive like California.
>>526185498Lol you boomers are really this out of touch and somehow didn't notice that 2014 happened.
>people don't request WFH because theya re lazy they do it because it's the only possible way they can get on the housing ladder
>>526177427I did Biomedical Science and it took me 2 years after graduation to get a job with the BioPharma Jews.
>>526177872>since I never negotiate to protect from layoffsMe too, just coasting by at a decent tech company for now because wife/kids need health insurance. Silver handcuffs.But I have made myself into a very difficult-to-replace cog.
>>526177322if it's so hard to find an employee, why not offer to pay for the education of high school students who score high on testing. you can offset the cost of the education by signing them to a contract that pays them below market rate, and you can even have them intern for a couple hours a day while they're in school so that they up to speed when they graduate..
>>526185863It's funny. There's no "housing ladder".There's pre-2012 home buying, where it was basically affordable.There's post-2022 home buying, where it is essentially unaffordable.Then there's younger Millennials who are the right age to have bought during and after these windows and just barely have got a house in time, creating the illusion of a housing ladder.
>>526185637This is the case. The anti-White DEI policies are still in place everywhere. Critically, people in general are as anti-White male as ever ideologically. Even if there aren’t explicit policies against hiring White guys, the HR roasties who hate us and minimize our presence will just say. “I’m sorry anon but you’re just not the right fit for our team at this time.” It’s over.
>>526185992Top tier universities used to employ in-dorm tutors to literally teach people how to study and prioritize time if they didn't know how, even as top admitted Harvard students. If there was talent or aptitude in someone, the system tried to develop it.And yes, you can pay people apprenticeship wages until they stick into gear.Apprenticeship wages that paid for a basic 1 bedroom apartment were THROW-AWAY expenses for big companies. It was worth throwing-away 9 salaries worth of money for the 1 golden boy you developed into loyal and valuable talent.
>>526177322Good. I want China to win. Fuck the goddamned kikes who've ruined this country and ruined the entire western world.
>>526177322Those jews are lying while they hire pajeets.
>>526186047I think in this context, the "housing ladder" just meant being able to afford a mortgage payment. In other words, the guy is saying people want WFH so they can live in a lower cost area where they can afford to buy a home.
>>526186077In spite of the vibe shift - which didn't apply to Trump's kike and corporate friends - most of the <55 professional class in America is permanently indoctrinated into DEI and no one is coming to replace them.>Oh fuck our HR roasties and S01boy managers suck>Let's fire them, get based people in, then develop the young talent.So you have for every 1 young talent, 3 wasted lost generation Millennial broke but talented men, 10 DEI/roastie entrenched professional managerial class.So we're going to fire everyone with experience, where 50% of the economy maybe more will have no skills or experience for any kind of job.Then we're going to take about a million to two million completely inexperience Millennial men, who might accomplish a lot, but are completely jaded and have by now started developing genuine health issues from age and drinking etc.And then they're going to just run the economy, fix everything, rewrite protocol, restructure professional networks, reimagine professional culture and inculcate it, and then finally train up about 80k young people who are completely insufficient in scale to even replace the 2 million?Boys, how many times do I have to explain this? It's already over. America is dead. They fucking killed it.You can't turn the ship around, it will just sink halfway. The glide is all we have left, on fumes and airspeed.I'm sort of glad I never had kids and am not invested into some career I can't afford to leave. Because this whole motherfucking thing is going down and all the glib roasties and retard smug liberal dudes and all the tough guy "I got mine" fucking red state retards are going to burn in hell on Earth, 3N's - Nuclear, Niggers, No hope left.
>>526183731Reminder this bullshit ends when people reject the 401k scam system.
>>526186047>There's no "housing ladder".There is a 'housing plateau'.If you can get into a house you can make a lateral move elsewhere later, but you won't be able to move up to a higher rung.
>>526185640Pay better then.
>>526186726I'm saying people are reading that into something different.It's people who bought a smaller "starter home" when housing was affordable, but were lucky enough to get the post 2017 salary bump and now on dual income and selling their smaller starter home which itself has raised in price, can barely afford a better home at the 2022 price levels.In other words, there's this impression that you have to build equity up to get to home ownership today, but this is basically impossible, and only appears possible because of a set of people who rode the wave where they did have a starter house they bought before the bump and can benefit from the equity bump of the price level increase to propel them to the next home.This is not a pattern anyone who missed it can repeat, so there's no functional ladder. There's no buying a starter home today to build up equity for the nice home in the good neighborhood tomorrow.Neither the first home nor the second will be affordable.
>>526177322I rejected a Raytheon recruiter. Like I'm going to help them build weapons to defend jews and globalists.
>>526177427woke STEMlords can't pass a drug screening. good riddance, we needed a few less court eunuchs getting full remote free rides in this country
>>526177322>block admissions of White Men into top universities>block White Men from entering into jobs/interships>fire White Men for a comment they made 10 years ago in college>we can’t find engineersFuck these companies!
>>526185640I only eat frozen pizzas named after German war heroes.
>>526180245Engineers don't deserve respect
as someone who follows aerospace closely, engineers at these companies earn 6 figures and it allows them to go wherever they are most interested in beingsounds to me raytheon isnt doing any interesting projects right now
>>526177602not in 2026, average CS degree was making 100k 10 YEARS AGO PAL
>>526186948Yes this is what I was saying.If you had at least a starter home before 2015 it more than doubled in value and you have that equity now to buy into the higher price level.I owned a house that was $240k. Sold it at $270 (all value eaten by realtor fees and interest payments. Literally my equity check post sale on the loan closure, I'm not fucking with you, was $12. I sold my house for $30k above what I bought it for and got a $12 check after three years of mortgage payments).I checked and the house is like $620k today. Had I sat on it, paid more deeply into equity, I could have walked away with around $400k in CASH. Just from paying around $200k in mortgage payments over 10 years. 200% investment.With $400k CASH, that's how you make a $800k home more affordable.
>>526177602No it's not lol
>>526177322>RAYTHEON CAN'T FIND TALENTED YOUNG ENGINEERS>RAYTHEON CAN'T HIRE TRAIN AND RETAIN YOUNG ENGINEERSFTFY
You dumbasses>>526177418>>526177427>>526177502It's this -> >>526177473>>526177537Companies always lie about "labor shortage". They just want more majors in an already overcrowded market so they can low-ball recruits.
>>526187115Based. You are disqualified for moral character.
>>526177602> trusting microjeet LLMNgmi
>>526187498Story of my life anon. I don't belong in this world.
>>526187489No, they're definitely getting plenty of applications. They're going straight into the trash because HR is run by STUPID CUNTS.
>>526177322Imagine waging for the MIC.
>>526187296If you follow it so closely why do you leave out the key detail?Getting an aerospace degree won't get you SHIT.What you have to do is through connections, luck or being grandfathered in have SPECIFIC experience with SPECIFIC systems, a learning opportunity provided a millions of dollars of expense by the companies who bring you in at the entry and intermediate levels.Afterwards, yes you become valuable. BECAUSE NIGGER YOU HAVE $100 MILLION OF EXPENSES BEHIND YOUR TRAINING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY NEW GUYS INSTEAD OF YOUIt's not that you were paid the money, it's that these expensive systems have a limited number of "hands-on" spots for people to gain experience with them.You niggers always leave this out. Acting like god's gift or everyone else just couldn't figure it out, when hundreds of millions have been spent associated with your training and there were only so many spots tied to that amount of spending.Of course these companies could, at reasonable expense, find ways to develop a broader pool of talent and multiply hands-on learning opportunities, but nah...They'd rather pay 1 dude $500k. $500k instead of $250k for you is a great fucking deal. It's pennies for them and they don't have to train other people.
>>526177602Can't believe we're still not past the exuberant salaries for engineers. We need to go back to the good old days when we worked them to death on a pittance. Apartments and Nissan Sentras
>>526181811Cuck
>>526182168When we throw stuff out we make sure to break it.
>>526177322Expect intense lobbying for Trump to allow foreigners clearance access to DOD contractors.>screencap this you watermelon sucking coons
>>526177322They have my number. Just tell me I'm doing it so the bad people can't do it first and we have a deal.
>>526177473*with competency in linear algebra and calculus, not critical whiteness.
>>526177807I agree
>>526177322DEI is rationally the biggest culprit. They skip over candidates just for being White men. When they say they can't find workers they are intentionally ignoring that. Globalists are neo-Marxist which means they always lie.
Based. Fuck the Military Industrial Complex.
>>526177322This is a lie, I'm a mechanical engineer and environmental engineer, but I own a manufacturing company and a real estate/construction company because working for modern corporations isn't a realistic option for White men. We don't want to be around shitskins or foids and we demand pay equal to the value we provide as well as a clear path for advancement.Fire your female and brown middle management and executives, raise salaries, get rid of HR, and alter your corporate culture. Then maybe White men will be willing to work for you.
>>526184505>I am now at 200k at a different company, but I did fast track a bit because skills.That's nice and all but you've lost your youth and vitality working for those bloodsuckers.
>>526177473Or race they want.
>>526177322>real estate investorRealtor / fixer up. Literally a useless job that provides nothing to humanity but because of QE he managed to become a millionaire without going to college or if he did some shit humanities or marketing degree.
60 years ago a position would just be called “mechanical engineer.” Now it’s all ultra-specific hyperspecialized bullshit like “experimental structures and controls engineer” and they want 5+ years of experience. Basically if your internships or first jobs gave you shit-tier work that doesn’t allow you to check every single one of the boxes for these positions, you’re FUCKED. All of the entry level jobs will go to new grads and everything else will go to the most experiencedt. aerospace engineer with 2 years of experience on my 9th month of job searching
>>526187939Don't even need ChatGPT, you can do that shit with Wolfram Alpha. Engineroids still coping
>>52618775090k in the US is slave wages. Illegals making less than minimum wage make more when they send it back to Mexico.
>>526188081At any rate most colleges and unis should be banned from offering useless degree. A useless degree should only be an Ivy League thing and highly expensive. We don’t need humanitiesWe don’t need marketingWe don’t need sociology We don’t need “history”We don’t need “philosophy”We don’t need “business”We don’t need “education”
>>526188177If you can't survive on 65k in the US you probably deserve to starve to death. This is why Valve is a billion dollar company without going public because goy are insatiably addicted to slop
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>>526188301We don't need indians either and yet here they are
>>526188417True. We don’t need bilingualism. French is a dead language outside of French yet here we have to “learn” it through our grades 1-9 with nothing to show for.
>>526178613I had a nigger supervisor for a while that was a definite DEI hire. This was two years ago at a hospital I worked at. He was completely incompetent. He ended up getting fired for cause. Liberals will literally let people die in a hospital if it means a nigger gets a promotion.
>>526177322I worked directly with one of their former talented-young-engineers for about 18 months within the last 3 years. The issue is that they aren't paying people enough relative to the value they provide the company, and they're letting their most talented engineers walk out the door with zero effort to keep them.Why stay at Raytheon and deal with a bunch of stupid bullshit bureaucracy when you can go to Nvidia or Anthropic and rake in mad cash by comparison.
>>526181973>facts we don't do that here on /pol/
