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What are the actual chances America invades Canada ?
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>>526185512
We come as frens. we're just after jeets
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After what their circus leader just did? It's possible.
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>>526185512
>What are the actual chances America invades Canada ?
You're fucked, leaf bro.
Trump is out to conquer it all and make you smell his stinky diapers.
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>>526185512
We already did, America has been Indians only since centuries 2021, the vax turned us all.
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>>526185512
hopefully not very high.
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>>526185627
This. We just want to brain drain Canada for the based high IQ Indian chads
They are needed in Texas
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>>526185512
100%
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>>526186538
You guys joke but i have begun to think this is what Greenland is actually about. A strategic prelude to taking Canada
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>>526187868
nobody needs a strategic prelude to take canada dipshit
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>>526185512
it wouldn't be much of a fight, would it ?
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>>526187957
Americans don’t know what strategic prelude means
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>>526187868
im not joking. we will take canada and you wont do shit.
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>>526187957
Greenland and especially the shipping routes around it has pretty obvious significance for any military engagement with Canada
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when America takes Canada, will Canada be one state, or will the individual states of Canada get U.S. statehood ?
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high enough that the federal government decided the best option forward is to avoid losing to chinese hard power.

As a non-power, Canada has 4 ways forward with regards to china and the US:
>lose to chinese soft power (loans, infrastructure, culture, etc)
This means canadians become a debt colony for the chinks, where their billionaires and multi-millionaires move over as expat colonizers doing nothing but hookers and blow all day (yes they already do this in hongcouver)
>lose against american soft power (investments, resource access, etc)
basically become a colony where income disparity goes higher and higher compared to US proper as the US dictates the worth of goods in USD (hint: it won't be much) and you live as a demockracy to prop up the USD
>lose against US hard power
either become a US territory or US state (likely US territory), canadians cease to exist but there won't be death camps (this is relevant to the next option)
>lose to chinese hard power
there are two outcomes: genocide, or worse, canadians will be treated as chinese citizens by the chinese government.

Note that the two worst options to avoid are options 2 and 4. You don't want to lose against American soft power or Chinese hard power. So you choose to lose against Chinese soft power, which means Americans have to use hard power to win in Canada - which is still preferable over Americans having a soft power relationship with Canada where Canada rots to death.

History can be a bit more complicated than that though, we'll see how it goes.
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>>526188915
That's an interesting way to look at it, but what precisely is Canada doing to avoid hard power takeover by China? Moreover how can China possibly have any realistic expectation of doing that such that it's even something to worry about?
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>>526189920
You generally avoid hard power takeovers. All kinds of problems with it - insurgency, turns off other countries and makes them suspicious of your intents, especially for superpowers since having a hostile superpower that's demonstrated that it's willing to do hard power takeover is one of the most reliable ways to start a coalition against you (see: greenland, ukraine & eastern bloc vs puccia, cuba and south america vs glowniggers), etc etc.
By showing the chinese that soft power is a viable alternative to hard power, you're basically sending a signal that they can relegate you to a lower priority on the hard power take over list - so instead of potentially invading canada as a foothold to invade america proper, they do not apply hard power and simply sign contracts for military bases, taking a page from the NATO playbook.
Again, thinking Americans would just sit still and watch this play out is retarded, but the point is in choosing the better of the awful options available to a non-power.
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>>526185512
trump just won the peace prize, so zero.

also i believe based on what my mind tells me, trump already convinced trudeau to step down or be removed by direct action or a canada spring type event.
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>>526185512
No chance of that happooning actually. Trump jist wanted to see if we could buy it.
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canada is arguably even less defensible than greenland
greenland is essentially a big slab of ice with 5 people total and denmark ships all they need
being an island they have a clear natural border
canada has a super long land border with a country that completely dwarfs it demographically, economically and militarily, and canada relies on it for countless vital resources
the sad reality is that canada has more or less functioned as a dependent subject of america more or less from its inception
i cannot genuinely see a path out of this. even if the next president was friendlier, it would still ultimately be a facade. it's postponing the inevitable, and any hostile move from canada would immediately be met by overwhelming force
the potential future freedom of europe would come from the distances and the costs involved, but canada has neither
if canada truly cared about autonomy then independence from the uk was a strategic mistake imho
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>>526190391
>Again, thinking Americans would just sit still and watch this play out is retarded
That's what I'm missing here. Are you saying that by ceding soft power to China it removes the opportunity for America to dominate with soft power, leaving only the option of hard takeover, or allowing Chinese soft dominance?
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>>526192054
That's what it comes down to, yeah.
I never said it was going to be fun.
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>>526185512
an invasion would only take place if our relationship with China grew to the point of some military alliance which would cause a war exactly like Ukraine/Russia

Much more likely is that they would cripple us economically well before that ever happened and then absorb Canada as a territory
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>>526191269
only a renewed union of the British Empire would save Canada but that's way less likely than just becoming a US territory
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>>526185512
50/50 either it happens or it don't



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