A practice Red Heifer sacrifice took place in Israel about 6 months ago. The “real” Red heifer sacrifice to fulfill their Jewish prophecies has not happened yet and is planned to happen in the near future at an undisclosed date. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SptZBiWwnvohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=evtP3cZgSYA
>>526196597Billions of male chicks killed by egg industry every year because they don’t lay eggs and are the wrong breed for meat
>>526196717>but she's "human" and farm animals aren't "human" so we don't have to grant them rightshttps://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki/index.php/NameTheTraitThis dialogue tree has been used by vegans many times in live debates, (feel free to comment on one of their videos, email them, message them on Instagram etc to challenge them to a debate on NTT )https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiGT6ox0Y-Mhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJR5vsrkr9Ahttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQLjgo2TfcMhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtziO8Ffc4&pp=ygUjRHIgQXZpIGRlYmF0ZSB2ZWdhbiBuYW1lIHRoZSB0cmFpdCA%3DIf someone says it's okay to kill a animal and turn them into a burger but not okay to do that to a human and the reason they give is that animals can't reason but humans can they'd have to bite the bullet and say it's okay to turn severely permanently mentally handicapped humans who can't reason into burgers. Or go vegan. Or name another trait(s)A single individual choosing to purchase meat or not purchase meat DOES make a difference. Individual boycott means the difference between life and death for between 1-900 chickensLots of evidence of thisI know individual consumer boycott does make a difference in sparing chickens lives Like in the first five minutes of this video https://youtu.be/brKhhZlUoOc?feature=sharedhe discuses a study that shows the average consumer has a 90 something percent chance of causing 1 - 900 extra chickens to be bred into existence tortured and killed.https://philarchive.org/rec/MCMAIOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gGSmNv-8YQCastrating piglets is extremely painful just search piglet castration diy no anesthetic on YouTube and you'll find lots of videos of farmers recording themselves castrating piglets and pigs. This is very common everywhere from large factory farms to small family farms.
>>526196844
Individual boycott of meat DOES matter.An individual consumer choosing to buy meat regularly for the next few years or choosing to be vegan for the next few years does make a difference. It probably means the difference between many more animals being bred into existence and tortured their whole life in a factory farm or being spared this fate and never bred into existence.https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-is?utm_source=publication-searchhttps://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1otuhqv/individual_boycott_of_meat_does_matter/
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fake "prophecies" and utter nonsense
>>526196717>>526196597>>526196844
>>526197362Maybe but the Israeli government has ties to the sacrifice this is discussed along with the evidence for it in the videos in the OP of this thread.After the perfect Red Heifer is sacrificed the government may start WW3 or doomsday. Cyberattacks, AI, man made pandemic, samson option nukes, etc
Animals are sentient and deserve rightshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9ohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOchttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwWhdvrYREThe earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltageslow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yeshttps://www.dominionmovement.com/watchhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugWMVqkRuj4
>>526196717I’m trying to feel something either way about this, but I can’t. I feel nothing whatsoever
>>526196597#free_chicken_kids
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>>526197830Psychopath or just desensitized
Roosters are fucking niggers so who cares if they get slaughtered
>>526196597I mean, I will forever eat meat, however fuck factory farming, the single most inhumane practice out there, not to mention it makes shit quality meat, its bad for the consumer and fucking horrific for the animal.
>>526198033I care. Sure they’re a bit territorial but vegan animal sanctuaries are able to take care of them. But besides billions of them should not be being bred into existence in the first place by humans
>>526198076I agree it’s the worst practice https://benthams.substack.com/p/weve-created-hell-its-called-factory
>>526197830Content warning: this post will provide non-graphic discussions of extreme suffering. You may have been able to guess that from the title.What’s the most painful thing that ever happened to you? Seriously take a moment and contemplate it—try, in as much detail as you can, to remember what it was like. Maybe, for many of you it was childbirth—an experience which, when it takes place without anesthesia, is temporarily completely debilitating. Nothing other than the pain occupies the mind of the sufferer.Perhaps it was getting a tattoo. Someone on Quora summarized the pain of getting a tattoo in the following way:They hurt.There are between one and 20 needles being poked through your skin hundreds of thousands of time in a single session. The number of needles will determine the type and intensity of pain. So expect it. The real question is how much will it hurt.I’ve been quite lucky and never experienced any particularly severe pain. I can remember quite a few times I’ve had pretty intense pain—barely eating for two days, having a doctor press down on my infected finger until it popped when I was ~8, having a very severe stomach ache, falling out of a treehouse (though remaining in the tree) and banging my chin on the side of it—but nothing has been that bad. I’d guess the worst experience of my life is a lot less painful than a wrist tattoo.The most painful experience that most of us have ever had is classified as disabling pain. This is the sort of pain that’s bad enough that during it you can’t enjoy doing anything else—you can’t, for instance, enjoy a game of chess while giving birth—and that makes it impossible to focus on anything other than the pain. Examples of this kind of pain include a very painful fall, breaking a bone, burning yourself, giving birth, severe dog bites, getting a tattoo, kidney stones, and hemorrhoids.
While we often forget about these later, when they’re happening, they feel like the most significant thing in the world. They’re extremely bad—if you offered me $1,000 to get severely bitten by a dog, its teeth ripping off a chunk of my flesh, or have needles pierce my skin hundreds of times, I wouldn’t take the deal. Certainly I wouldn’t undergo childbirth for 1,000 dollars—especially if it was without anesthetic!Sadly, on average, the animals that we eat endure hundreds of hours of this kind of debilitating agony over the course of their life. They endure somewhere on the order of an hour a day of this pain.I’ll just discuss one such case—the case of the egg-laying hen, with the facts gathered from this report. https://welfarefootprint.org/research-projects/laying-hens/ Egg-laying hens in conventional farms endure about 400 hours (!!!!!) of this kind of disabling agony. Remember, this is agony about as bad as the worst thing that’s ever happened to you, unless you’ve had an experience as bad as being severely tortured. This is the agony that makes it impossible to think of anything else. The hens endure about an hour of a day of this extremely intense agony.This intense pain comes from many sources including (this list is non-exhaustive):Bone fractures. The majority of hens experience a bone fracture over the course of their life. On average, they have three. Imagine if you broke the same bone three times. This is, and I can’t emphasize this enough, what most hens deal with—the industry that produces our eggs is so cruel that it breaks the bones of most hens multiple times. In fact, the situation is much worse for hens than it would be for us, because the area around their keel bone, which is the most common kind of fracture, has a huge number of nerves. While such experiences in humans usually produce disabling pain for about a day, for chickens, such pain lasts about a week. Often the bone doesn’t heal properly, leading to constant intense agony.
>>526198155>But besides billions of them should not be being bred into existence in the first place by humansStop breeding niggers and this wouldn’t happen
Injurious pecking. In a hen's natural environment, she’ll spend most of her time pecking the ground looking for food. In a modern farm, hens can’t do that, so they spend a lot of their time pecking other hens, often leading to severe injury (just imagine that you were being bitten all the time by people surrounding you). It’s not terribly uncommon for hens to be pecked to death (seriously imagine what it would be like for that to happen) or for pecking to affect a hen’s body part known as the vent which is particularly sensitive (in this case, for the males reading this, imagine someone biting your balls). Often this becomes infected.Every one of a hen’s natural behaviors are thoroughly squashed in the farms. Hens cannot make a nest prior to laying an egg, which causes them quite severe distress. Hens are willing to undergo strong electric shocks in order to get a suitable nest—about as strong as the electric shocks they’ll endure in order to get food after being starved for 28 hours (!!!!!). Remember, hens lay an egg roughly daily! This may not seem like a big deal, but only because we don’t appreciate the experience of being a nesting hen; an alien wouldn’t understand why we care about sex so much. Konrad Lorenz, a nobel prize winner summarized:“The worst torture to which a battery hen is exposed is the inability to retire somewhere for the laying act. For the person who knows something about animals it is truly heart-rending to watch how a chicken tries again and again to crawl beneath her fellow-cage mates to search there in vain for cover”Whenever you purchase a few cartons of eggs, you are consigning a chicken to living in these horrifying, excruciating conditions. Before you next purchase eggs—or chicken, or most any other animal product, though eggs are likely the worst—remember what the worst experience of your life is like, and vividly consider the fact that your purchase will likely cause others to endure many hours of an experience just as bad.
>>526198719Factory farming exists in places that are almost all white or almost all Asian. Most meat consumed in Iceland is from factory farming. Most meat consumed in Japan is from factory farming. Even if it’s imported it’s still increasing demand
>>526198846None of those places are white
Tragically, the true scenario is much worse than that. Even worse than these scenarios of intense yet bearable pain are experiences that the authors of the report call excruciating pain. This is the sort of pain experienced when a person is brutally tortured or slowly eaten alive or burned to death for minutes; the sorts of pain that, if you’re really brave, you can read about in some detail here. They’re horrible enough to take on an almost qualitatively different dimension—something most of us wouldn’t trade for many decades of happy life. This kind of pain is literally inconceivable—it’s so bad that many people who experience it attempt suicide. A hen might experience this right as she’s being trampled and pecked to death.Hens experience, on average, about two and a half minutes of this horrifying agony. The hundreds of hens that the average person eats over the course of their life (and yes, your consumption of eggs does cause more hens to be brought into existence, mistreated, and killed) mean that the average person is probably causing several hours of this unfathomable agony—the sort of agony one experiences in the minutes that they die from burning, boiling, being eaten alive, or suffocating to death; the kind of agony worse than being mauled by a dog, worse than childbirth, worse by orders of magnitude than anything you’ve ever experienced. The kind of experience that, to take a contemporary example, George Floyd probably experienced for the minutes that he was suffocating.The average meat eater causes hours of that!This is why factory farming is such a great moral emergency. It’s the cause of agony beyond what we could hope to imagine. Amounts we cannot fathom of agony that we cannot fathom. It’s not just egg-laying hens that experience this; it’s ubiquitous in the entire factory farming industry. As Ren says in an article that’s very worth reading, describing her own experience with fairly intense pain:
>>526198920No country on earth has codified animal rights into law. In Germany it’s still in many cases legal to mutilate animals without anesthetic for example.
A single broiler chicken experiences fifty hours of [disabiling] pain during their lifespan, which lasts 4-6 weeks. There are 69 billion broilers slaughtered each year. That is so many hours of pain that if you divided those hours among humanity, each human would experience about 400 hours (2.5 weeks) of disabling pain every year. Can you imagine if instead of getting, say, your regular fortnight vacation from work or study, you experienced disabling-level pain for a whole 2.5 weeks? And if every human on the planet - me, you, my friends and family and colleagues and the people living in every single country - had that same experience every year? How hard would I work in order to avert suffering that urgent?Factory farming is probably responsible for more agony than has ever existed in human history—especially agony of the most intense kind. This massive quantity of agony exists because consumers pay for it. Fortunately, we can do better. There are highly effective organizations working to reduce the extent of animal mistreatment in factory farms, which save around 18 animals from a cruel fate for every dollar they’re given. Additionally, if you’re horrified by this conduct, you can stop paying for it and go vegan.
>>526196597Who gives a fuck? They're not actually magic.
>>526199073False, the US ratified the 14th Amendment
>>526199189Maybe but the Israeli government has ties to the sacrifice this is discussed along with the evidence for it in the videos in the OP of this thread.After the perfect Red Heifer is sacrificed the government may start WW3 or doomsday. Cyberattacks, AI, man made pandemic, samson option nukes, etc
Its going to happen and Christ will return relatively shortly afterwards, why is this a bad thing?
>>526199403Obviously it should be prevented. Animal sacrifice is badYou can’t transfer your sins to a chicken and then execute it to be forgiven. That’s cheating >>526199325Funny. But there’s at least one individual from every single currently existing race and ethnicity who can do calculus and understand all the laws of logic. No other currently existing species has any members who can do calculus and understand all the laws of logic (although some animals can do very simple counting)
>he believes it was a practice runGood goy!
>>526199189Anyone with a sense of morality, a heart or just decent sense about them.Setting aside the moral issues since farming has always been a nasty piece of working, Seamus Heaney's poem, "The Early Purges", really demonstrates this as he recalls his childhood and the drowning of kittens. Ignoring it the main issue is just the quality of the meat, its goyslop at best. It is good reason I can hardly eat meat when I leave Ireland, any factory farmed meat just tastes inferior and is generally less nutritious. Factory farming harms the consumer, the average farmer and the animal most of all. The only people who benefit from it in the long run is the big business behind such operations. Factory farms are also a large reason behind the microplastics in us due to their cost cutting measures/etc.
>>526199705I’m skeptical and I agree you should be about these things too. However there was independent private investigators and stuff. For it to not be a practice run the cow has to be literally perfect and there’s a lot of very difficult rules that have to be followed and if they’re broken they have to start from scratch with new cow.I’m very confident they haven’t done it yet
>>526199687This faggot lies about so much shit I refuse to believe any story in the way he says it happened and I say that as someone against antisemitism laws.This dude is like Hasan, it doesn't matter how right you are, if they're on your side you have to reevaluate everything then probably lose support when they find a way to make your argument look retarded.
Some people rescued some chickens who were going to be slaughtered by Jews at a Kapparot and brought them to a vegan animal sanctuary to live out the rest of their lives.https://m.youtube.com/shorts/viXBIHGrFlQ
>>526200099I think charges will probably be dropped but I think there was truth to this
>>526197362>a fucking leafI always wondered why yiu always had the worst takes on every topic. Now it makes sense
>>526196597third temple cow death slide status?
>>526200269The red heifers (often referred to as "cows" in discussions about Third Temple preparations) are candidates for the biblical purification ritual described in Numbers 19, which some Jewish groups believe is necessary before rebuilding the Temple.As of January 2026, **no valid red heifer sacrifice** has taken place. The Temple Institute (the primary organization involved) conducted a practice simulation ceremony in late 2025 using a **disqualified heifer** (due to defects like a damaged tail and other blemishes). They explicitly stated this was invalid—it did not occur in the required location (Mount of Olives facing the Temple Mount), used unconsecrated garments, and produced unusable ashes. The Institute has issued clarifications denying rumors that this or any other recent event constituted a real, kosher sacrifice.Currently, four candidate red heifers are being raised and monitored at a site in Shiloh. Their halachic (ritual) status is ongoing and not yet finalized—qualification requires them to remain completely unblemished (e.g., no non-red hairs, no yoke work) until at least age 3.Earlier candidates (including the five imported from Texas in 2022) have been disqualified over time due to blemishes like black or white hairs appearing.There are no confirmed reports of recent deaths among the current candidates. Disqualifications (not deaths) are the main issue affecting their status.Sensational claims online (e.g., YouTube videos alleging a secret or actual sacrifice in 2025) appear to stem from misrepresentations of the practice simulation and have been contradicted by the Temple Institute itself.I couldn't find any specific references to "cow death slide" in relation to this topic—it may refer to a meme, presentation slide deck, or post discussing disqualifications/rumors, but no matching content turned up in searches.
>>526200582>I couldn't find any specific references to "cow death slide"here ya go chatgpt lad
>>526196597Bump
>>526196717>>526196597Whats that machine called?
>>526203133macerator
>>526200891Often referred to as the "high altar" or sacrificial platform built for red heifer rituals. This specific setup was constructed on or near the Mount of Olives (overlooking the Temple Mount) by groups associated with the Temple Institute and Boneh Israel. The Hebrew signage and the ramp design align with biblical and mishnaic descriptions for the red heifer burning site, where a ramp (not steps) is required to avoid ritual impurityRegarding the "cow death slide" phrasing from your earlier query: This appears to be a colloquial or meme-like reference to the ramp itself (visibly a steep, slide-like incline in photos/videos). No mainstream sources use "death slide" literally—it's likely informal slang for the path the heifer would be led up before slaughter and burning in the ritual. No evidence of actual "slides" involving cow deaths beyond standard ritual descriptions.**Current status as of January 2026**:- A high-profile ceremony occurred on July 1, 2025, involving slaughter and burning of a heifer on a similar altar setup (likely this one or identical). However, official statements from the Temple Institute and the Sanhedrin explicitly clarify this was **not a valid, kosher red heifer sacrifice**. The animal used was disqualified (e.g., due to non-red hairs or other blemishes), making it a practice rehearsal/dry run only. The ashes produced are ritually unusable.- Viral claims (YouTube videos, social media) alleging a "real" sacrifice in 2025 are contradicted by these authorities and stem from misinformation.- Four candidate red heifers are currently being raised and monitored at a site in Shiloh. Their status remains undetermined—no definitive kosher (unblemished, fully qualifying) heifer has been confirmed yet.- No valid red heifer sacrifice has taken place in modern timesThis altar/ramp structure remains in place for potential future use, but preparations are ongoing without a completed ritual.
I am so eating chicken nuggets today!
Everyone crying about these creatures forget they wouldnt exist without humans multiplying them like bacteria. It is alright to destroy your creation.
>>526203892It’s wrong to rape someone into existence and then give them a mostly bad life then kill them.If their lives are mostly bad don’t breed them into existence If their lives are mostly good don’t kill them when they’re still young and have many mostly good years ahead of them
>>526204047Bump
>>526204047humans used to do it to each other, we do it to this day. Its called slavery, and you care about some chicken who can barely sense a thing.And yes following my previous logic, we're just factory animals for the men who run the world. Since its also in their power to destroy us , just as it was in their power to overpopulate our nations
>>526196717OKI was already fine with the concept of chickens being killed in vast numbers, so no reason to feel differently about that
>>526198076I agree
>>526205349Slavery is also wrong
>>526205806nature doesnt care what oyu think is right, no divinity will punish you or reward you in any case. So strong men bred an army of slaves and most human descend from these, it is what it is
>>526197003>AI slop
>>526197003Is this vid suggesting they just dump squillions of male chicks into the wild
>>526205886That’s just an appeal to futility? We should try to reduce suffering or rights violations as best we can regardless
>>526206032No we should breed less of them. Everyone won’t go vegan overnight at the same time
>>526196597Kikes are truly a vile and cursed people. Our ancestors who started pogroms against kikes were right all along.
>>526206214Just read the Old Testament, they forgot what metaphors are
>>526196844I have nothing against them making a male chick slurry to feed to other animals, but simply throwing them out in trashbags is indeed inhumane and a huge fucking waste of legitimate protein. Probably a write off on (((their))) taxes.
>>526206167What do you mean breed less of them, they have no control over the 50/50 chicken/rooster birth rate
>>526206167>No we should breed less of them.How? How make chicken breed less?
>>526206584>>526206597More people going vegan means less chickens
>>526206715I repeat: how? How will people going vegan stop chickens from having babymaking sex?
>>526206087sure, lets start with depopulating china so less chicken have to horribly die
>>526196597Somebody told that they already performed that
>>526196597So when nothing happens again are we going to chalk this up to being another practice run?
>>526203133it's the chicken nugget machine
>>526196597>>526196717>>526196844I'm crying, bros. I'm not eating meat again.Just kidding. I don't give a shit about the baby chicks.
>>526206802It was a practice run>>526206785Supply and demand >>526196844>>526197158The males and females will be segregated more
>>526206984I hope you get hit by an asteroid.
>>526207057I hope you eat some eggs, you fucking faggot.
>>526203133mcnuggettenator 9000
>>526207007So, you want to forcibly turn chickens into incels? And then what? Free them? They will just keep breeding, then get eaten by predators or ruin the ecosystem. Keep them enclosed and feed them until they die from old age? Who will pay for this?
>>526207128Eat a bullet, or maybe some unfertilized eggs from a neighbor’s pet chickens you selfish scumbag.
>>526207201Go to a vegan animal sanctuary. They’re run by volunteers and funded by donations
>>526207057Based
>>526207271How many animals do they have? It's just few animals the keep as mascots to feel good about themselves.
>>526206984Just eat beef. Chicken and pork is gross
Any sane human would be okay with inflicting the same evil shit on the men doing it to the chicksWhile at the same time still consuming animal products harvested with humane means (majority of them are like that in countries that take their food seriously, like mine)Some animals are below othera though and thats fine, chicks are retarded thats why dogs and cats being brutalized generate a much more visceral response from us
Great, more strange youtubers with an opinion.
>>526207442It varies but it’s definitely more than a few
>>526207248>>526207618Nerds.
>>526207688That’s an understatement. He tried to publish his documentary film on Netflix but was not allowed to because it was “antisemitic” so he did it independently instead
>>526207628Not necessarily, you can be sane and against retributive justice.
>>526199403How do you know the Messiah won't arrive and say, nah, not this time either, you'll have to wait until the Third Coming?
>>526205886based. there has never been "word1" or "word2" but force and force alone
>>526196597>>526196717This needs to be done with any female over 30 that hasn't had kids.
>>526207618>Chicken and pork is grossChicken I can grant, its an otherwise bland meat that relies on its marinade, but pork is a blessed meat. Anyone who hates on pork is either, a kike, a muslim, or someone who cant cook.
>>526207628>While at the same time still consuming animal products harvested with humane means (majority of them are like that in countries that take their food seriously, like mine)This, the mutts I think just genuinely dont know how much worse factory farmed food tastes.
>>526196597>animal sacrificeThese people are not savages btw.
